Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-22 Thread Steve Pearson

Mike:

I'm still trying to confirm if any 3rd party makes a
diffuser for this flash (the AF200T)?  You said Stofen
has suggestions on how to avoid under-exposure?  Have
you used one of their diffusers on the 200?

Again, on the Lumiquest web site, they specifically
say they do not have one for the 200.  Maybe people
still buy them  get them to work somehow?

Thank again for all the help!
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-21 Thread Rfsindg

Steve,

With the AF200T, turn the audio flash confirmation on and verify you are 
getting TTL when you fire.  The AF200T is not as tall as the AF280T and 
doesn't bounce, so you may see some red eye with longer lenses (85mm+).  I'd 
try a diffuser to see if you can get rid of the harsh look.  I'd save the 
1/2, 1/4, etc power settings for fill flash outdoors.

You should definitely take the flash and Super Program out for some exercise. 
g

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Thanks so much for the reply!  That was my second post
 to the group, but only my first response back.  I just
 checked  yes I do have the AF200T.  It seems from
 past memory (I have not shot with this flash in a
 while), that the pictures with it were also a little
 too harsh.  Do you use a difuser, as it is only a
 direct flash, without any tilt?  Or, do you adjust the
 power settings to the 1/2, 1/4, etc. settings?
 
 If I rememeber, it seems that I also tended to get
 quite a few red-eye shots with this flash.  
 
 I should probably break it out and shoot some to see
 how they turn out. 
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-21 Thread Steve Larson

Hi Steve,
$150 is a little steep, but since everything is included, if it
were me, I`d go for it. Later on you can  try the Hot Shoe Grip
with bracket and the  4P Sync Cord B, it`s an excellent set
up for off camera flash work. The 4P Sync Cord B comes in
two lengths, one meter, and three meter.
 Pentax did not make a diffuser for the AF200T, as there are no
slots for it to slide on.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: Flash Delima-Please Help


Thanks for the input.  Maybe I need a difuser for the
AF200T that I have?

Is a used AF280T with both the wide angle  the tele
adaptors for $150 a good price?  It appears to be in
excellent condition with cases  manual.

Thanks for any suggestions!


--- Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Steve,
  The AF200T is a great little flash, but don`t
 expect it to cover
 a lot of range. The AF280T is substantially more
 powerful,
 will have a lot more reach, plus it tilts and
 swivels, has adapters
 for wide and tele, the wide adapter is always used
 on mine when
 shooting people, it`s kind of like a diffuser. Don`t
 rule out the
 AF400T, all you need to use it on a Super P is a 4P
 Sync Cord B,
 check them out on Boz`s page at:
 http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/
 The AF400T also has the wide and tele adapters, can
 be used
 with an external battery pack, and it is quite
 powerful.
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California
 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:52 PM
 Subject: Flash Delima-Please Help


  I currently own a Super Program  have a Pentax
 AF200
  flash  a Vivitar 283 flash.  I primarily use the
 283
  for Professional jobs, with a Lumiquest bounce
 card.
   It seems that lately the pictures are a bit
  overexposed.  I'm giving some thought to buying a
  Pentax AF280T.  Can anyone tell me what to expect.

  Will the 280 provide a noticeable difference?  Can
 I
  expect better results due to TTL?  I have not been
  real happy with the 200, but maybe it's just too
  under-powered?
 
  Your help is greatly appreciated.  I definately
 need
  help learning about flash photogragphy.  Any
 reference
  out there on the web?
 
  Thanks in advance for any help!
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Re: Re: Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-21 Thread David Brooks

Opps,sorry Steve,i forgot it came with all the other
gear mine did not.
I did it like our military works,buy the bullets then
fiqure out what gun they go with :)

Dave

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From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 06:33:31 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: Flash Delima-Please Help


Hi Dave,
 When you factor in both adapters, case, manual, and
mint condition, I think the $150 is an OK price. I would
do it. You could search ebay till you find the same thing,
but it would probably be a long search.
 I like your strategy though, buy a camera for the flash ;),
I`ll keep that in mind for the war department.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Flash Delima-Please Help


Hi Steve.
If thats $150 USd i'd say its steep too.I recently
bought a used AF280T, i'm in Canada, for $100 USd
with case but no manual.Got one form Pentax Canada
at n/c.
Nice flash,good results from the few times
i'v used it.Tooka few inside at night bounce shots
of my cats,no burn,nice picture.
I don't find it big or bulky,especially
after using the Vivitar 285 HV on the D1.
I bought a Super Program to go with the flash BTW.

Dave

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From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 04:46:23 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Flash Delima-Please Help


Hi Steve,
$150 is a little steep, but since everything is included, if it
were me, I`d go for it. Later on you can try the Hot Shoe Grip
with bracket and the 4P Sync Cord B, it`s an excellent set
up for off camera flash work. The 4P Sync Cord B comes in
two lengths, one meter, and three meter.
 Pentax did not make a diffuser for the AF200T, as there are no
slots for it to slide on.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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 From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: Flash Delima-Please Help


Thanks for the input. Maybe I need a difuser for the
AF200T that I have?

Is a used AF280T with both the wide angle  the tele
adaptors for $150 a good price? It appears to be in
excellent condition with cases  manual.

Thanks for any suggestions!


--- Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Steve,
 The AF200T is a great little flash, but don`t
 expect it to cover
 a lot of range. The AF280T is substantially more
 powerful,
 will have a lot more reach, plus it tilts and
 swivels, has adapters
 for wide and tele, the wide adapter is always used
 on mine when
 shooting people, it`s kind of like a diffuser. Don`t
 rule out the
 AF400T, all you need to use it on a Super P is a 4P
 Sync Cord B,
 check them out on Boz`s page at:
 http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/
 The AF400T also has the wide and tele adapters, can
 be used
 with an external battery pack, and it is quite
 powerful.
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California
 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:52 PM
 Subject: Flash Delima-Please Help


  I currently own a Super Program  have a Pentax
 AF200
  flash  a Vivitar 283 flash. I primarily use the
 283
  for Professional jobs, with a Lumiquest bounce
 card.
  It seems that lately the pictures are a bit
  overexposed. I'm giving some thought to buying a
  Pentax AF280T. Can anyone tell me what to expect.

  Will the 280 provide a noticeable difference? Can
 I
  expect better results due to TTL? I have not been
  real happy with the 200, but maybe it's just too
  under-powered?
 
  Your help is greatly appreciated. I definately
 need
  help learning about flash photogragphy. Any
 reference
  out there on the web?
 
  Thanks in advance for any help!
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-21 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 21/03/02 14:34:45 GMT Standard Time, Steve writes:

 Pentax did not make a diffuser for the AF200T, as there are no
 slots for it to slide on.
 Steve Larson 

They are hidden on the two long sides. Think it's an AFW1. 



KR

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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-21 Thread Steve Pearson

According to the owner's manual for the AF200T, Pentax
did make a wide-angle  a tele adaptor.  It would seem
that for my use, it would be best to get the tele.  As
I primarily use the 100mm for portraits.  My question
is, what does the AFT1 actually do?  It says in the
manual that it offers a more concentrated light.  Does
this have the same effect as a Lumiquest soft box? 
BTW, Lumiquest does not make a soft box for the
AF2ooT, I think because it's too big and it covers the
sensor.  If anyobody currently uses the AFT1 on an
AF200T, are you happy with the results?  Do the
pictures end up a little softer than without the
adaptor?

Finally, is it better to set the flash to TTL, instead
of the RED or GREEN auto settings?  If so, what are
these settings for?

Thanks again everybody!



--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 21/03/02 14:34:45 GMT Standard
 Time, Steve writes:
 
  Pentax did not make a diffuser for the AF200T, as
 there are no
  slots for it to slide on.
  Steve Larson 
 
 They are hidden on the two long sides. Think it's
 an AFW1. 
 
 
 
 KR
 
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-21 Thread Rfsindg

Steve,

The tele adaptor is all mechanical, a 1.5x2.5 inch box that slides over the flash 
tubes.  It is about 1.5 inches deep with a flat plastic fresnel lens on the front.  It 
simply focuses the light rays into a more narrow beam.  I think it is typically a 
135mm focus.

I don't think this is what you need for 100mm lens portraits.  Something like the wide 
angle adapter may give you light bounced off the room.  I'd try the rubbing alcohol 
bottle or plastic milk carton as a diffuser.  Something to spread that light for a 
bounce.

You should always use the TTL setting on your flash with the Super Program.  This 
measures the light after moving thru your lens and into your camera body.  In effect, 
it knows whether you are using a 100mm or a 24mm lens on the camera and adjusts the 
output of the flash.  With the red and green settings, you measure the light bounced 
back to the flash body and turn off the flash there... no adjusting for that 100mm 
lens!  These settings are available so you can use the flash with 'dumb' cameras that 
don't have Thru-The-Lens flash sensors.

I think Peter at Camera Direct correctly points out that the appropriate accessories 
are the AFW1  AFT1.

Regards,  Bob S.

You wrote:
According to the owner's manual for the AF200T, Pentax
did make a wide-angle  a tele adaptor.  It would seem
that for my use, it would be best to get the tele.  As
I primarily use the 100mm for portraits.  My question
is, what does the AFT1 actually do?  It says in the
manual that it offers a more concentrated light.  Does
this have the same effect as a Lumiquest soft box? 
BTW, Lumiquest does not make a soft box for the
AF2ooT, I think because it's too big and it covers the
sensor.  If anyobody currently uses the AFT1 on an
AF200T, are you happy with the results?  Do the
pictures end up a little softer than without the
adaptor?

Finally, is it better to set the flash to TTL, instead
of the RED or GREEN auto settings?  If so, what are
these settings for?
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-21 Thread Alan Chan

   Pentax did not make a diffuser for the AF200T, as there are no
  slots for it to slide on.

Mine's got slots and the diffuser/tele adaptor for the 280T
fits.

200T and 280T use the same wide angle (covers 24mm) and tele adaptors. I 
have the wide angle myself.

regards,
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-21 Thread mike wilson

Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't think this is what you need for 100mm lens portraits.  Something like the 
wide angle adapter may give you light bounced off the room.  I'd try the rubbing 
alcohol bottle or plastic milk carton as a diffuser.  Something to spread that light 
for a bounce.

Another option:  Take one of the white, translucent film tubs. 
Use the lid for something else.  Cut the bottom off.  Make a
slit from top to bottom.  With a bit of adjustment, you can now
feed the cut ends into the slots on the top and bottom of the
flash output window.  Diffuser for free!  If you use a Fuji tub,
the pictures may have a green cast but Kodachrome ones come out
perfectly.  Joke.

 You should always use the TTL setting on your flash with the Super Program.  This 
measures the light after moving thru your lens and into your camera body.  In effect, 
it knows whether you are using a 100mm or a 24mm lens on the camera and adjusts the 
output of the flash.  With the red and green settings, you measure the light bounced 
back to the flash body and turn off the flash there... no adjusting for that 100mm 
lens!  These settings are available so you can use the flash with 'dumb' cameras that 
don't have Thru-The-Lens flash sensors.

There is also the possibility with auto settings and diffusers
that some of the light emitted might go direct to the auto
sensor, causing underexposure.  Sto-fen gives instructions on
how to avoid this.

mike
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-20 Thread Steve Larson

Hi Steve,
 The AF200T is a great little flash, but don`t expect it to cover
a lot of range. The AF280T is substantially more powerful,
will have a lot more reach, plus it tilts and swivels, has adapters
for wide and tele, the wide adapter is always used on mine when
shooting people, it`s kind of like a diffuser. Don`t rule out the
AF400T, all you need to use it on a Super P is a 4P Sync Cord B,
check them out on Boz`s page at:
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/
The AF400T also has the wide and tele adapters, can be used 
with an external battery pack, and it is quite powerful.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:52 PM
Subject: Flash Delima-Please Help


 I currently own a Super Program  have a Pentax AF200
 flash  a Vivitar 283 flash.  I primarily use the 283
 for Professional jobs, with a Lumiquest bounce card.
  It seems that lately the pictures are a bit
 overexposed.  I'm giving some thought to buying a
 Pentax AF280T.  Can anyone tell me what to expect. 
 Will the 280 provide a noticeable difference?  Can I
 expect better results due to TTL?  I have not been
 real happy with the 200, but maybe it's just too
 under-powered?
 
 Your help is greatly appreciated.  I definately need
 help learning about flash photogragphy.  Any reference
 out there on the web?
 
 Thanks in advance for any help!
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-20 Thread Rfsindg

Steve,

There are several versions of the AF200.  Some are AF200S, some are AF200Sa, 
and some are AF200T.  Do you have the AF200T?  It is the TTL version and 
works great with the Super Program.  If you don't have the TTL version, that 
alone is reason enough for buying an AF280T.

The AF280T is a modest step up from the AF200T.  The Guide Number is 280 vs 
200, so that gets you out 40% farther.  It also has tilts and swivels for the 
head, which lets you take advantage of bounce flash.  It's only disadvantage 
is that is nearly as big and heavy as the Super Program body itself.

Hope this helps,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I currently own a Super Program  have a Pentax AF200
 flash  a Vivitar 283 flash.  I primarily use the 283
 for Professional jobs, with a Lumiquest bounce card.
  It seems that lately the pictures are a bit
 overexposed.  I'm giving some thought to buying a
 Pentax AF280T.  Can anyone tell me what to expect. 
 Will the 280 provide a noticeable difference?  Can I
 expect better results due to TTL?  I have not been
 real happy with the 200, but maybe it's just too
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-20 Thread Steve Pearson

Bob:

Thanks so much for the reply!  That was my second post
to the group, but only my first response back.  I just
checked  yes I do have the AF200T.  It seems from
past memory (I have not shot with this flash in a
while), that the pictures with it were also a little
too harsh.  Do you use a difuser, as it is only a
direct flash, without any tilt?  Or, do you adjust the
power settings to the 1/2, 1/4, etc. settings?

If I rememeber, it seems that I also tended to get
quite a few red-eye shots with this flash.  

I should probably break it out and shoot some to see
how they turn out.

Thanks again for all of your help!
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Steve,
 
 There are several versions of the AF200.  Some are
 AF200S, some are AF200Sa, 
 and some are AF200T.  Do you have the AF200T?  It is
 the TTL version and 
 works great with the Super Program.  If you don't
 have the TTL version, that 
 alone is reason enough for buying an AF280T.
 
 The AF280T is a modest step up from the AF200T.  The
 Guide Number is 280 vs 
 200, so that gets you out 40% farther.  It also has
 tilts and swivels for the 
 head, which lets you take advantage of bounce flash.
  It's only disadvantage 
 is that is nearly as big and heavy as the Super
 Program body itself.
 
 Hope this helps,  Bob S.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I currently own a Super Program  have a Pentax
 AF200
  flash  a Vivitar 283 flash.  I primarily use the
 283
  for Professional jobs, with a Lumiquest bounce
 card.
   It seems that lately the pictures are a bit
  overexposed.  I'm giving some thought to buying a
  Pentax AF280T.  Can anyone tell me what to expect. 
  Will the 280 provide a noticeable difference?  Can
 I
  expect better results due to TTL?  I have not been
  real happy with the 200, but maybe it's just too
  under-powered? 
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-20 Thread Steve Pearson

Thanks for the input.  Maybe I need a difuser for the
AF200T that I have?

Is a used AF280T with both the wide angle  the tele
adaptors for $150 a good price?  It appears to be in
excellent condition with cases  manual.

Thanks for any suggestions!


--- Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Steve,
  The AF200T is a great little flash, but don`t
 expect it to cover
 a lot of range. The AF280T is substantially more
 powerful,
 will have a lot more reach, plus it tilts and
 swivels, has adapters
 for wide and tele, the wide adapter is always used
 on mine when
 shooting people, it`s kind of like a diffuser. Don`t
 rule out the
 AF400T, all you need to use it on a Super P is a 4P
 Sync Cord B,
 check them out on Boz`s page at:
 http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/
 The AF400T also has the wide and tele adapters, can
 be used 
 with an external battery pack, and it is quite
 powerful.
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California
 - Original Message - 
 From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:52 PM
 Subject: Flash Delima-Please Help
 
 
  I currently own a Super Program  have a Pentax
 AF200
  flash  a Vivitar 283 flash.  I primarily use the
 283
  for Professional jobs, with a Lumiquest bounce
 card.
   It seems that lately the pictures are a bit
  overexposed.  I'm giving some thought to buying a
  Pentax AF280T.  Can anyone tell me what to expect.
 
  Will the 280 provide a noticeable difference?  Can
 I
  expect better results due to TTL?  I have not been
  real happy with the 200, but maybe it's just too
  under-powered?
  
  Your help is greatly appreciated.  I definately
 need
  help learning about flash photogragphy.  Any
 reference
  out there on the web?
  
  Thanks in advance for any help!
  Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-20 Thread John Glover

I think you can get a new AF280T from BH for about $150, but that would not
include the wide and tele adapters.

John

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: Flash Delima-Please Help


 Thanks for the input.  Maybe I need a difuser for the
 AF200T that I have?

 Is a used AF280T with both the wide angle  the tele
 adaptors for $150 a good price?  It appears to be in
 excellent condition with cases  manual.

 Thanks for any suggestions!


 --- Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Steve,
   The AF200T is a great little flash, but don`t
  expect it to cover
  a lot of range. The AF280T is substantially more
  powerful,
  will have a lot more reach, plus it tilts and
  swivels, has adapters
  for wide and tele, the wide adapter is always used
  on mine when
  shooting people, it`s kind of like a diffuser. Don`t
  rule out the
  AF400T, all you need to use it on a Super P is a 4P
  Sync Cord B,
  check them out on Boz`s page at:
  http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/
  The AF400T also has the wide and tele adapters, can
  be used
  with an external battery pack, and it is quite
  powerful.
  Steve Larson
  Redondo Beach, California
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  From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:52 PM
  Subject: Flash Delima-Please Help
 
 
   I currently own a Super Program  have a Pentax
  AF200
   flash  a Vivitar 283 flash.  I primarily use the
  283
   for Professional jobs, with a Lumiquest bounce
  card.
It seems that lately the pictures are a bit
   overexposed.  I'm giving some thought to buying a
   Pentax AF280T.  Can anyone tell me what to expect.
 
   Will the 280 provide a noticeable difference?  Can
  I
   expect better results due to TTL?  I have not been
   real happy with the 200, but maybe it's just too
   under-powered?
  
   Your help is greatly appreciated.  I definately
  need
   help learning about flash photogragphy.  Any
  reference
   out there on the web?
  
   Thanks in advance for any help!
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-20 Thread Steve Pearson

Thanks again for the info.  Sorry, one more question. 
Do you know if it's possible to purchase a difusser of
some type for my AF200T?

Thanks so much again for your help!

--- John Glover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think you can get a new AF280T from BH for about
 $150, but that would not
 include the wide and tele adapters.
 
 John
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Flash Delima-Please Help
 
 
  Thanks for the input.  Maybe I need a difuser for
 the
  AF200T that I have?
 
  Is a used AF280T with both the wide angle  the
 tele
  adaptors for $150 a good price?  It appears to be
 in
  excellent condition with cases  manual.
 
  Thanks for any suggestions!
 
 
  --- Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Hi Steve,
The AF200T is a great little flash, but don`t
   expect it to cover
   a lot of range. The AF280T is substantially more
   powerful,
   will have a lot more reach, plus it tilts and
   swivels, has adapters
   for wide and tele, the wide adapter is always
 used
   on mine when
   shooting people, it`s kind of like a diffuser.
 Don`t
   rule out the
   AF400T, all you need to use it on a Super P is a
 4P
   Sync Cord B,
   check them out on Boz`s page at:
   http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/
   The AF400T also has the wide and tele adapters,
 can
   be used
   with an external battery pack, and it is quite
   powerful.
   Steve Larson
   Redondo Beach, California
   - Original Message -
   From: Steve Pearson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:52 PM
   Subject: Flash Delima-Please Help
  
  
I currently own a Super Program  have a
 Pentax
   AF200
flash  a Vivitar 283 flash.  I primarily use
 the
   283
for Professional jobs, with a Lumiquest
 bounce
   card.
 It seems that lately the pictures are a bit
overexposed.  I'm giving some thought to
 buying a
Pentax AF280T.  Can anyone tell me what to
 expect.
  
Will the 280 provide a noticeable difference? 
 Can
   I
expect better results due to TTL?  I have not
 been
real happy with the 200, but maybe it's just
 too
under-powered?
   
Your help is greatly appreciated.  I
 definately
   need
help learning about flash photogragphy.  Any
   reference
out there on the web?
   
Thanks in advance for any help!
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-20 Thread T Rittenhouse

In fact there are only two ways you can soften the light of an on camera
strobe. All the rest are pretend.  e.g. it must work everybody says so, but
you can't tell it from the pictures.

1. Is to cause an appreciable amount of the light to bounce around the room.
Diffusers like the sto-fen, and Styrofoam cups stuck over the flash head
work this way. They cause a huge lost of guide number. But if the room is
smallish and the walls and ceiling light colored they work pretty well.

2. Is to make the light source appreciably larger. Umbrellas, soft-boxes,
and reflector cards work this way. The also cause a lost of guide number but
not as much as the former method. But to be effective at anything other than
close distances they have to be rather large. I used an 8x10 inch bounce
card for the forsale pics that I had up on my web site at about one foot
from the lenses. At ten feet it would be only slightly better than the bare
flash. A 3x4 foot soft-box would be rather effective at that distance.
Umbrellas fall somewhere between the two.

The little reflectors and soft boxes that are sold to amateurs are very
effective at making money for the dealers, they do little for your
photography. Sometimes you see press photographers with a small bounce card
taped to their flash. One such photographer I talked to said he used it so
the celebs would know he had taken their picture with out actually affecting
the lighting much.

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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-20 Thread Alan Chan

Thanks so much for the reply!  That was my second post
to the group, but only my first response back.  I just
checked  yes I do have the AF200T.  It seems from
past memory (I have not shot with this flash in a
while), that the pictures with it were also a little
too harsh.  Do you use a difuser, as it is only a
direct flash, without any tilt?  Or, do you adjust the
power settings to the 1/2, 1/4, etc. settings?

The power setting on 200T is useful only in manual mode. It does nothing in 
TTL mode. On Z-1p, flash power can be altered on the camera. I do not think 
you can alter the TTL flash power with Super A/program.

If I rememeber, it seems that I also tended to get
quite a few red-eye shots with this flash.

Raise the flash higher, or point the flash to the ceiling (must be white) 
can cure the problem, though not practical with 200T.

I should probably break it out and shoot some to see
how they turn out.

Though this method is not for everyone, I often put a light diffuser on the 
lens when using flash indoor. The subjects will appear less harsh. Also, you 
can use manual flash and decrease the flash output by 1 f-stop (compensated 
by ambient light). For instance, I often use ISO400, 1/60s, f4, TTL flash 
output decreased by 1 stop (same with manual flash) in restaurants.

regards,
Alan Chan


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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-19 Thread Bruce Dayton

Steve,

The first question to ask yourself is what did you change?  If they
use to turn out fine and now they are overexposing, did you change
films, labs or lenses.  Or, have you just started to notice that they
have always been overexposed.

With your 283, you can always lie to it and tell it that you have
faster film than you are really using.  That way it will kill the
flash a bit quicker and drop the exposure a bit.


Bruce Dayton



Tuesday, March 19, 2002, 10:52:54 PM, you wrote:

SP I currently own a Super Program  have a Pentax AF200
SP flash  a Vivitar 283 flash.  I primarily use the 283
SP for Professional jobs, with a Lumiquest bounce card.
SP  It seems that lately the pictures are a bit
SP overexposed.  I'm giving some thought to buying a
SP Pentax AF280T.  Can anyone tell me what to expect. 
SP Will the 280 provide a noticeable difference?  Can I
SP expect better results due to TTL?  I have not been
SP real happy with the 200, but maybe it's just too
SP under-powered?

SP Your help is greatly appreciated.  I definately need
SP help learning about flash photogragphy.  Any reference
SP out there on the web?

SP Thanks in advance for any help!
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SP http://sports.yahoo.com/
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