Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
Actually there are certain older pmcmia wifi cards that are popular with folks who like to steal their internet access because they are very easy to reprogram, including the MAC Address. I guess however that if I was using setup like we have been talking about, I would only consider setting it up as a network with only my cameras and one dedicated laptop, so it is not like someone was going to get my bank account information or anything like that. Bob Blakely wrote: Manufacturers assign MAC addresses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
Manufacturers assign MAC addresses. Regards, Bob... --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] A good point, Mike, if it is ones own system one can restrict it so only that card can connect. I personally would have no use for connecting a camera to a Wi-Fi internet access point. mike wilson wrote: If it's assigning a MAC address to the card and then only allowing that MAC address access? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
What you need and what's fun are two different things... Tom C wrote: I only need to be called a dumb *** once Bob, OK? :-) Tom C. From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:02:55 -0700 The WIFI is built into the card. Tnat's why (according to the article) the CAMERA with eye-fi card has to be near a WIFI access point! --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACTUALLY... after reading Thib's last post and link regarding eye-fi, I have to say that I can see Brendans's point. I had foolishly thought they had the wifi built into the SD card itself (silly me, that was a stupid assumtion if I ever made one, embarrassing actually). If one has to stop shooting and take the card out of the camera, and put it in a reader, then I don't find it nearly as attractive. Yes I can see that it only takes 10 seconds to put the card in a reader and put a new one in the camera. Here I thought it allowed transfer simultaneously from within the camera while continuing to shoot. Still useful but not near as whiz-bang as I thought. What would be nice is the *option* to shoot non-stop and have the camera (if you have this much trust in technology) delete images as they are sucessfully transferred so that one has a 'never full' memory card. That would require the camera to be smart enough to receive a returned sucessful/fail status from the network or receiving PC. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
Doug Franklin wrote: mike wilson wrote: Well, maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but that lets it out for me. I'm not going to have a user that gets in without authentication and has write privileges to /any/ part of my system. Not even with WEP. If it's assigning a MAC address to the card and then only allowing that MAC address access? Many Ethernet cards can be configured to present any MAC address you want to the network, so that's no real protection. Yes, but you need to KNOW an allowed MAC, which is non-trivial to find. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Getting the MAC address is a trivial exercise. I can think of several ways with a laptop and a IP analyzer, and it would take only a minute or two. John Graves WA1JG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adam Maas wrote: Doug Franklin wrote: mike wilson wrote: Well, maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but that lets it out for me. I'm not going to have a user that gets in without authentication and has write privileges to /any/ part of my system. Not even with WEP. If it's assigning a MAC address to the card and then only allowing that MAC address access? Many Ethernet cards can be configured to present any MAC address you want to the network, so that's no real protection. Yes, but you need to KNOW an allowed MAC, which is non-trivial to find. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Nov 1, 2007 3:50 PM, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody on this list shooting those kind of events and actually selling prints while the event is still in progress? Anybody NOT on this list that you know is doing that? I shoot events and sell on-site. I don't print on-site though. Only thumbnail sheets for display and selection. W -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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mike wilson wrote: Well, maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but that lets it out for me. I'm not going to have a user that gets in without authentication and has write privileges to /any/ part of my system. Not even with WEP. If it's assigning a MAC address to the card and then only allowing that MAC address access? Many Ethernet cards can be configured to present any MAC address you want to the network, so that's no real protection. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/2/07, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in the studio days, we used video feed to a monitor, placed where the subjects had to turn around to see it, as the camera's viewfinder. It was damn useful, and didn't interfere with our interaction with the subjects. We also controlled the camera-- tilt, pan, zoom, shutter, etc-- with a wired remote. Were did the red laser pointers come in then.:-) Dave On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:39 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities I was intrigued with the use of wireless image transfer in the portrait photography endeavor. Watching what the photographer in that session did and how it brought the portrait session to life in a different way inspired me to consider possibilities for the use of wireless as a fast feedback tool. I actually have some misgivings about that. I can imagine how distracting a monitor showing the pictures as they are being taken as a real impediment to developing any kind of flow in the session. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/02 Fri PM 12:37:34 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities mike wilson wrote: Well, maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but that lets it out for me. I'm not going to have a user that gets in without authentication and has write privileges to /any/ part of my system. Not even with WEP. If it's assigning a MAC address to the card and then only allowing that MAC address access? Many Ethernet cards can be configured to present any MAC address you want to the network, so that's no real protection. How would the cards know which MAC address to assume? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
While everybody's arguing about the desirability of this capability maybe they should read the dpReview the product, that Thibouille posted not too long ago. It hardly looks earth shattering in it's capabilities. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/eye-fi/ John Sessoms wrote: From: Tom C Sure it's hypothetical... but obviously there is enough of a market for the technology to develop it. :-) Unless it's like the LASER ... spent the first 15 - 20 years after it was invented as a solution in search of a problem. A lot of modern technology seems to be that way. Invent it, develop it, and *then* figure out what you can use it for. -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 09:28:01 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Adam Maas wrote: The reader is only necessary to configure the WiFi card, it does upload automatically from inside the camera. You do need to configure the card for each individual wirelessnetwork and it doesn't support any user authentication (so most metropolitan-area wifi networks are out). Well, maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but that lets it out for me. I'm not going to have a user that gets in without authentication and has write privileges to /any/ part of my system. Not even with WEP. If it's assigning a MAC address to the card and then only allowing that MAC address access? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 06:25:24 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom C wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I Unless, as I said, there is a situation where it might prove fruitful. Like comparing apples and oranges.:-) I think it's just a case of sour grapes. The right ingredients for a bad whine. If you MUST. Right. You can't be picky. Any port in a storm. A port in a storm is probably a good idea, you'll never find a cab. No fair. I go to sleep for a few hours and everyone has sherry-picked the best lines. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/1/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: graywolf Being able to transfer your images directly to the laptop your assistant is using to print and sell the images without having to stop shooting is a money making benefit for event photographers. If you are just taking photos for yourself it is probably only good for bragging rights. Anybody on this list shooting those kind of events and actually selling prints while the event is still in progress? Not any more, to hard on the computers and printers, and to many repairs. Dave Anybody NOT on this list that you know is doing that? Yes. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I was away from the computer and hadn't read the entire thread, and apparently I still haven't... Brendan MacRae wrote: Oh, P.J., we're wy past that at this point! Take a look at some prior posts. :-] -Brendan --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While everybody's arguing about the desirability of this capability maybe they should read the dpReview the product, that Thibouille posted not too long ago. It hardly looks earth shattering in it's capabilities. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/eye-fi/ John Sessoms wrote: From: Tom C Sure it's hypothetical... but obviously there is enough of a market for the technology to develop it. :-) Unless it's like the LASER ... spent the first 15 - 20 years after it was invented as a solution in search of a problem. A lot of modern technology seems to be that way. Invent it, develop it, and *then* figure out what you can use it for. -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
I Unless, as I said, there is a situation where it might prove fruitful. Like comparing apples and oranges.:-) I think it's just a case of sour grapes. The right ingredients for a bad whine. If you MUST. Right. You can't be picky. Any port in a storm. A port in a storm is probably a good idea, you'll never find a cab. No fair. I go to sleep for a few hours and everyone has sherry-picked the best lines. Relax and all your angst will evaporate. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh, P.J., we're wy past that at this point! Take a look at some prior posts. :-] -Brendan --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While everybody's arguing about the desirability of this capability maybe they should read the dpReview the product, that Thibouille posted not too long ago. It hardly looks earth shattering in it's capabilities. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/eye-fi/ John Sessoms wrote: From: Tom C Sure it's hypothetical... but obviously there is enough of a market for the technology to develop it. :-) Unless it's like the LASER ... spent the first 15 - 20 years after it was invented as a solution in search of a problem. A lot of modern technology seems to be that way. Invent it, develop it, and *then* figure out what you can use it for. -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
A good point, Mike, if it is ones own system one can restrict it so only that card can connect. I personally would have no use for connecting a camera to a Wi-Fi internet access point. mike wilson wrote: If it's assigning a MAC address to the card and then only allowing that MAC address access? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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GRIN! Yes, I would think there is a little more dust at a horse show than, say, at a night club. Of course if you were in the big time you could put your setup in an air conditioned trailer. David J Brooks wrote: On 11/1/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: graywolf Being able to transfer your images directly to the laptop your assistant is using to print and sell the images without having to stop shooting is a money making benefit for event photographers. If you are just taking photos for yourself it is probably only good for bragging rights. Anybody on this list shooting those kind of events and actually selling prints while the event is still in progress? Not any more, to hard on the computers and printers, and to many repairs. Dave Anybody NOT on this list that you know is doing that? Yes. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
Oh, you want to learn how to be a hacker, heh? Setup your laptop with an access point, look at what is trying to access it. The card in the guys camera will be one of them. However, there are two points to think about here. 1. Is anyone seriously going to bother. 2. Even if this particular card is crippled does that mean the idea behind it is flawed. I mean, one would have to check out that card before one would use it for business. It may, or may not, work well enough for what one needs. However the idea behind it is valid, many photographers have a need for that kind of technology. mike wilson wrote: From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/02 Fri PM 12:37:34 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities mike wilson wrote: Well, maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but that lets it out for me. I'm not going to have a user that gets in without authentication and has write privileges to /any/ part of my system. Not even with WEP. If it's assigning a MAC address to the card and then only allowing that MAC address access? Many Ethernet cards can be configured to present any MAC address you want to the network, so that's no real protection. How would the cards know which MAC address to assume? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/10/31 Wed PM 06:34:03 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities And during the interim you just missed the best shot of the day, but don't worry, you won't know it anyway. ;-) Er, um What do you have to do when the wifi card is full? Or does it send to the other device only (not writing to itself) when in wifi mode? From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you've got an assistant at the dye-sub printer selling 8x10's for $25/ea to the guests? -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/31/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I Unless, as I said, there is a situation where it might prove fruitful. Paul Like comparing apples and oranges.:-) Dave On Oct 31, 2007, at 9:23 PM, William Robb wrote: PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David J Brooks wrote: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I Unless, as I said, there is a situation where it might prove fruitful. Like comparing apples and oranges.:-) I think it's just a case of sour grapes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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-- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] David J Brooks wrote: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I Unless, as I said, there is a situation where it might prove fruitful. Like comparing apples and oranges.:-) I think it's just a case of sour grapes. The right ingredients for a bad whine. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David J Brooks wrote: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I Unless, as I said, there is a situation where it might prove fruitful. Like comparing apples and oranges.:-) I think it's just a case of sour grapes. The right ingredients for a bad whine. If you MUST. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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--- Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Event photography is like making love - position is important but timing is everything. stan Well said! -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes, the event is going on. Dance, horse show, bicycle race, or whatever, they are not going to wait for the photographer. Stan Halpin wrote: Event photography is like making love - position is important but timing is everything. stan On Oct 31, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: Rght. Welcome my friends to the Land of Highly Improbable Hypotheticals. If my skill as a photographer is so bad that I choose only the worst possible 15 seconds of an hours long event to swap out cards and miss a shot then yes, your comments make sense. Believe it or not though, I can usually find a few seconds to pop in a new card without missing anything of significance. -Brendan --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And during the interim you just missed the best shot of the day, but don't worry, you won't know it anyway. ;-) Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you've got an assistant at the dye-sub printer selling 8x10's for $25/ea to the guests? -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Brendan MacRae Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. I'd get me a runner to handle the cards. That assistant needs to stay there at the printer. You could miss a lot of sales while he's going back and forth. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Sessoms wrote: From: Brendan MacRae Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. I'd get me a runner to handle the cards. That assistant needs to stay there at the printer. You could miss a lot of sales while he's going back and forth. WiFi is a lot cheaper than a runner, buy once instead of pay every time. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tom C wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I Unless, as I said, there is a situation where it might prove fruitful. Like comparing apples and oranges.:-) I think it's just a case of sour grapes. The right ingredients for a bad whine. If you MUST. Right. You can't be picky. Any port in a storm. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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-- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom C wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I Unless, as I said, there is a situation where it might prove fruitful. Like comparing apples and oranges.:-) I think it's just a case of sour grapes. The right ingredients for a bad whine. If you MUST. Right. You can't be picky. Any port in a storm. A port in a storm is probably a good idea, you'll never find a cab. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: graywolf Being able to transfer your images directly to the laptop your assistant is using to print and sell the images without having to stop shooting is a money making benefit for event photographers. If you are just taking photos for yourself it is probably only good for bragging rights. Anybody on this list shooting those kind of events and actually selling prints while the event is still in progress? Anybody NOT on this list that you know is doing that? I think these days globe trotting photojournalists just connect the camera to their Sat-phone. Often set up so they go out as they are shooting. The only one I've dealt with personally didn't. He did use a sat-phone when necessary to link back to the U.S., but not real-time via wi-fi. He took time to look at his take on the laptop and select what he wanted to send back to the real world. And he only used the sat-phone when he didn't have access to the internet. That wi-fi thingy looks like it'd work well if you're shooting down on the sports field and linking to a laptop up in the press-booth. Or maybe covering candidate press conferences ... but it's still an organizational thing; gotta have someone on both ends of the link who know what to do with the photos. Sure beats the days when you had to send your film to Outer Mongolia to get it developed. Of course when I was a kid I just dropped the film off at the corner drug store a short block and a half from the house, and right on the way to school. It was usually back the next day. And, you think things are more convenient nowadays. More convenient than dropping off your film in the morning on the way to school and being able to pick your prints up playing hooky at lunch? More convenient than logging into the school library's computer at study hall and sending your images to a local 1-hr shop, then picking your prints up on the way home? Or maybe a different 1-hr shop so your friends or relatives can get the prints? Or having them mailed to your house so you don't even have to stop on the way home? Shutterfly does that. Kodak Gallery does that, AND handles C-41 film by mail. Flickr might be able to do that, but their site isn't very good, so I couldn't tell. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Sessoms wrote: From: graywolf Being able to transfer your images directly to the laptop your assistant is using to print and sell the images without having to stop shooting is a money making benefit for event photographers. If you are just taking photos for yourself it is probably only good for bragging rights. Anybody on this list shooting those kind of events and actually selling prints while the event is still in progress? Anybody NOT on this list that you know is doing that? I don't know anybody personally doing that, but I know of a lot of people doing it. The UK Mag 'Professional Photographer' covered this extensively in their recent Event Photography issue. I think these days globe trotting photojournalists just connect the camera to their Sat-phone. Often set up so they go out as they are shooting. The only one I've dealt with personally didn't. He did use a sat-phone when necessary to link back to the U.S., but not real-time via wi-fi. He took time to look at his take on the laptop and select what he wanted to send back to the real world. And he only used the sat-phone when he didn't have access to the internet. That wi-fi thingy looks like it'd work well if you're shooting down on the sports field and linking to a laptop up in the press-booth. That's what it's oriented towards, for example, court #1 at Wimbledon this year had Wifi for that reason. Or maybe covering candidate press conferences ... but it's still an organizational thing; gotta have someone on both ends of the link who know what to do with the photos. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Sessoms wrote: From: Tom C Sure it's hypothetical... but obviously there is enough of a market for the technology to develop it. :-) Unless it's like the LASER ... spent the first 15 - 20 years after it was invented as a solution in search of a problem. A lot of modern technology seems to be that way. Invent it, develop it, and *then* figure out what you can use it for. Even the laser was heavily used early in its design lifetime. It simply didn't develop consumer uses for 15-20 years. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Tom C Sure it's hypothetical... but obviously there is enough of a market for the technology to develop it. :-) Unless it's like the LASER ... spent the first 15 - 20 years after it was invented as a solution in search of a problem. A lot of modern technology seems to be that way. Invent it, develop it, and *then* figure out what you can use it for. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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ACTUALLY... after reading Thib's last post and link regarding eye-fi, I have to say that I can see Brendans's point. I had foolishly thought they had the wifi built into the SD card itself (silly me, that was a stupid assumtion if I ever made one, embarrassing actually). If one has to stop shooting and take the card out of the camera, and put it in a reader, then I don't find it nearly as attractive. Yes I can see that it only takes 10 seconds to put the card in a reader and put a new one in the camera. Here I thought it allowed transfer simultaneously from within the camera while continuing to shoot. Still useful but not near as whiz-bang as I thought. What would be nice is the *option* to shoot non-stop and have the camera (if you have this much trust in technology) delete images as they are sucessfully transferred so that one has a 'never full' memory card. That would require the camera to be smart enough to receive a returned sucessful/fail status from the network or receiving PC. Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:28:21 -0700 (PDT) --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being able to transfer your images directly to the laptop your assistant is using to print and sell the images without having to stop shooting is a money making benefit for event photographers. True enough. But whether or not there is a real time saving methodology with WiFi is my contention. -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sure it's hypothetical... but obviously there is enough of a market for the technology to develop it. :-) Unless it's like the LASER ... spent the first 15 - 20 years after it was invented as a solution in search of a problem. A lot of modern technology seems to be that way. Invent it, develop it, and *then* figure out what you can use it for. Even the laser was heavily used early in its design lifetime. It simply didn't develop consumer uses for 15-20 years. they were very widely used by evil geniuses intent on world domination trying unsuccessfully to do away with British spies. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tom, The reader is only necessary to configure the WiFi card, it does upload automatically from inside the camera. You do need to configure the card for each individual wirelessnetwork and it doesn't support any user authentication (so most metropolitan-area wifi networks are out). -Adam Tom C wrote: ACTUALLY... after reading Thib's last post and link regarding eye-fi, I have to say that I can see Brendans's point. I had foolishly thought they had the wifi built into the SD card itself (silly me, that was a stupid assumtion if I ever made one, embarrassing actually). If one has to stop shooting and take the card out of the camera, and put it in a reader, then I don't find it nearly as attractive. Yes I can see that it only takes 10 seconds to put the card in a reader and put a new one in the camera. Here I thought it allowed transfer simultaneously from within the camera while continuing to shoot. Still useful but not near as whiz-bang as I thought. What would be nice is the *option* to shoot non-stop and have the camera (if you have this much trust in technology) delete images as they are sucessfully transferred so that one has a 'never full' memory card. That would require the camera to be smart enough to receive a returned sucessful/fail status from the network or receiving PC. Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:28:21 -0700 (PDT) --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being able to transfer your images directly to the laptop your assistant is using to print and sell the images without having to stop shooting is a money making benefit for event photographers. True enough. But whether or not there is a real time saving methodology with WiFi is my contention. -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh, reading far too fast for comprehension then. You're right. Why the heck do they even need the reader? Thanks for the correction. Tom C. From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:35:25 -0400 Tom, The reader is only necessary to configure the WiFi card, it does upload automatically from inside the camera. You do need to configure the card for each individual wirelessnetwork and it doesn't support any user authentication (so most metropolitan-area wifi networks are out). -Adam Tom C wrote: ACTUALLY... after reading Thib's last post and link regarding eye-fi, I have to say that I can see Brendans's point. I had foolishly thought they had the wifi built into the SD card itself (silly me, that was a stupid assumtion if I ever made one, embarrassing actually). If one has to stop shooting and take the card out of the camera, and put it in a reader, then I don't find it nearly as attractive. Yes I can see that it only takes 10 seconds to put the card in a reader and put a new one in the camera. Here I thought it allowed transfer simultaneously from within the camera while continuing to shoot. Still useful but not near as whiz-bang as I thought. What would be nice is the *option* to shoot non-stop and have the camera (if you have this much trust in technology) delete images as they are sucessfully transferred so that one has a 'never full' memory card. That would require the camera to be smart enough to receive a returned sucessful/fail status from the network or receiving PC. Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:28:21 -0700 (PDT) --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being able to transfer your images directly to the laptop your assistant is using to print and sell the images without having to stop shooting is a money making benefit for event photographers. True enough. But whether or not there is a real time saving methodology with WiFi is my contention. -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The WIFI is built into the card. Tnat's why (according to the article) the CAMERA with eye-fi card has to be near a WIFI access point! --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACTUALLY... after reading Thib's last post and link regarding eye-fi, I have to say that I can see Brendans's point. I had foolishly thought they had the wifi built into the SD card itself (silly me, that was a stupid assumtion if I ever made one, embarrassing actually). If one has to stop shooting and take the card out of the camera, and put it in a reader, then I don't find it nearly as attractive. Yes I can see that it only takes 10 seconds to put the card in a reader and put a new one in the camera. Here I thought it allowed transfer simultaneously from within the camera while continuing to shoot. Still useful but not near as whiz-bang as I thought. What would be nice is the *option* to shoot non-stop and have the camera (if you have this much trust in technology) delete images as they are sucessfully transferred so that one has a 'never full' memory card. That would require the camera to be smart enough to receive a returned sucessful/fail status from the network or receiving PC. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I only need to be called a dumb *** once Bob, OK? :-) Tom C. From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:02:55 -0700 The WIFI is built into the card. Tnat's why (according to the article) the CAMERA with eye-fi card has to be near a WIFI access point! --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACTUALLY... after reading Thib's last post and link regarding eye-fi, I have to say that I can see Brendans's point. I had foolishly thought they had the wifi built into the SD card itself (silly me, that was a stupid assumtion if I ever made one, embarrassing actually). If one has to stop shooting and take the card out of the camera, and put it in a reader, then I don't find it nearly as attractive. Yes I can see that it only takes 10 seconds to put the card in a reader and put a new one in the camera. Here I thought it allowed transfer simultaneously from within the camera while continuing to shoot. Still useful but not near as whiz-bang as I thought. What would be nice is the *option* to shoot non-stop and have the camera (if you have this much trust in technology) delete images as they are sucessfully transferred so that one has a 'never full' memory card. That would require the camera to be smart enough to receive a returned sucessful/fail status from the network or receiving PC. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sorry. Didn't mean you were dumb. Just thought you didn't catch it. --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] I only need to be called a dumb *** once Bob, OK? :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Adam Maas wrote: The reader is only necessary to configure the WiFi card, it does upload automatically from inside the camera. You do need to configure the card for each individual wirelessnetwork and it doesn't support any user authentication (so most metropolitan-area wifi networks are out). Well, maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but that lets it out for me. I'm not going to have a user that gets in without authentication and has write privileges to /any/ part of my system. Not even with WEP. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I know. FWIW, I am dumb quite frequently. More oblivous as opposed to outright stupidity in my case. :-) Tom C. From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:20:35 -0700 Sorry. Didn't mean you were dumb. Just thought you didn't catch it. --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] I only need to be called a dumb *** once Bob, OK? :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, I went and looked it up to see what it can do ... Here's what I noticed: Those two teenage girls didn't look *that* much closer to their teens than I am. But if it's aimed at the teenage-girl-with-a-digital-camera market, it needs automatic red-eye removal somewhere in the software, turned on by default. I get real teenage girls in my lab every day printing from their digital cameras, and none of them seem to have half a clue about red-eye removal or reduction. Range is 90 feet outdoors, 45 feet indoors. I wouldn't give that runner the pink slip yet. Won't work with most wifi hotspots 'cause you can't log in, so you're home wireless network has to be within that 90/45 feet range. Maybe their Eye-Fi Manager software will work with your wifi notebook away from your home network. That wasn't quite clear on the website. Currently only supported in the USA. __ Back to the teenage girls thingy - as far as I can tell, no teenage girl with a digital camera has EVER bought an additional memory card for it. They're all using the original 256 or 512 card they bought along with the camera, so I'm not sure there's really a market there. They've all got it set to get the maximum number of photos they can cram into the card with the obvious results regarding image quality. None of them has ever so much as looked at the manual; the camera is still in whatever mode the sales-droid put it into before they walked out of the store. They all have the same pictures on the card ... 5 pictures of their girlfriends cheek to cheek before they go out to some bar; 5 pictures of their girlfriends cheek to cheek at the table in some bar with fancy drinks in front of them - either fruit or paper umbrellas; 95 pictures of various drunken louts they met in that bar, mugging for the camera making whatever rude gesture is currently in vogue; 2 pictures of some hungover dude slouched in front of the TV set All of the images, except for the hungover dude slouched in front of the TV, are washed out, over-flashed, front-lit, spawn-of-satan-red-eye against impenetrable darkness; The hungover dudes in front of the TV will be under-exposed by at least 2 stops. ... rinse repeat as many times as it takes to fill the memory card. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Did you read the article or just look at the pictures. The card will access any WiFi connection. The USB thingy is used to set it up. That makes sense when you think about it. Your camera has no facility to set the network connection, you do it with your computer using the USB adapter. Now I only had to read down to about the third picture to figure that out. I did not bother going farther as my digicam does not have a SD port so the thing would be useless to me. Tom C wrote: ACTUALLY... after reading Thib's last post and link regarding eye-fi, I have to say that I can see Brendans's point. I had foolishly thought they had the wifi built into the SD card itself (silly me, that was a stupid assumtion if I ever made one, embarrassing actually). If one has to stop shooting and take the card out of the camera, and put it in a reader, then I don't find it nearly as attractive. Yes I can see that it only takes 10 seconds to put the card in a reader and put a new one in the camera. Here I thought it allowed transfer simultaneously from within the camera while continuing to shoot. Still useful but not near as whiz-bang as I thought. What would be nice is the *option* to shoot non-stop and have the camera (if you have this much trust in technology) delete images as they are sucessfully transferred so that one has a 'never full' memory card. That would require the camera to be smart enough to receive a returned sucessful/fail status from the network or receiving PC. Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:28:21 -0700 (PDT) --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being able to transfer your images directly to the laptop your assistant is using to print and sell the images without having to stop shooting is a money making benefit for event photographers. True enough. But whether or not there is a real time saving methodology with WiFi is my contention. -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The normal 95/45 feet is based on standard WiFi access point antennas - about 3 dBi omni gain. One can obtain 9 dBi omni antennas thereby obtaining a 6 dB boost. I have directional 18 dBi antennas (for an increase of 15 dB). This increases range considerably, perhaps up to several thousand feet under favorable conditions. Currently, I'm doing my consulting work (engineering) at my favorite It's A Grind coffee house. WiFi is uncontrolled and free, as is electrical power, and the coffee is great. They have six flavors/types on tap to choose from as well as the various foo-foo coffee drinks. My favorite is vanilla nut - but I digress... My safety is ZoneAlarm firewall. Most independent coffee houses are like this with the WiFi. The eye-fi would work here. Some folks tell me that coffee is addictive, but I've been drinking five to ten mugs of it a day for 45 years and haven't noticed any such thing. Regards, Bob... --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) - Original Message - From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I went and looked it up to see what it can do ... Here's what I noticed: Those two teenage girls didn't look *that* much closer to their teens than I am. But if it's aimed at the teenage-girl-with-a-digital-camera market, it needs automatic red-eye removal somewhere in the software, turned on by default. I get real teenage girls in my lab every day printing from their digital cameras, and none of them seem to have half a clue about red-eye removal or reduction. Range is 90 feet outdoors, 45 feet indoors. I wouldn't give that runner the pink slip yet. Won't work with most wifi hotspots 'cause you can't log in, so you're home wireless network has to be within that 90/45 feet range. Maybe their Eye-Fi Manager software will work with your wifi notebook away from your home network. That wasn't quite clear on the website. Currently only supported in the USA. __ Back to the teenage girls thingy - as far as I can tell, no teenage girl with a digital camera has EVER bought an additional memory card for it. They're all using the original 256 or 512 card they bought along with the camera, so I'm not sure there's really a market there. They've all got it set to get the maximum number of photos they can cram into the card with the obvious results regarding image quality. None of them has ever so much as looked at the manual; the camera is still in whatever mode the sales-droid put it into before they walked out of the store. They all have the same pictures on the card ... 5 pictures of their girlfriends cheek to cheek before they go out to some bar; 5 pictures of their girlfriends cheek to cheek at the table in some bar with fancy drinks in front of them - either fruit or paper umbrellas; 95 pictures of various drunken louts they met in that bar, mugging for the camera making whatever rude gesture is currently in vogue; 2 pictures of some hungover dude slouched in front of the TV set All of the images, except for the hungover dude slouched in front of the TV, are washed out, over-flashed, front-lit, spawn-of-satan-red-eye against impenetrable darkness; The hungover dudes in front of the TV will be under-exposed by at least 2 stops. ... rinse repeat as many times as it takes to fill the memory card. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities WiFi is a lot cheaper than a runner, buy once instead of pay every time. Probably more reliable too. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The reader is necessary to configure the WiFi function of the card. -Adam Tom C wrote: Oh, reading far too fast for comprehension then. You're right. Why the heck do they even need the reader? Thanks for the correction. Tom C. From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:35:25 -0400 Tom, The reader is only necessary to configure the WiFi card, it does upload automatically from inside the camera. You do need to configure the card for each individual wirelessnetwork and it doesn't support any user authentication (so most metropolitan-area wifi networks are out). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Back in the studio days, we used video feed to a monitor, placed where the subjects had to turn around to see it, as the camera's viewfinder. It was damn useful, and didn't interfere with our interaction with the subjects. We also controlled the camera-- tilt, pan, zoom, shutter, etc-- with a wired remote. On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:39 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities I was intrigued with the use of wireless image transfer in the portrait photography endeavor. Watching what the photographer in that session did and how it brought the portrait session to life in a different way inspired me to consider possibilities for the use of wireless as a fast feedback tool. I actually have some misgivings about that. I can imagine how distracting a monitor showing the pictures as they are being taken as a real impediment to developing any kind of flow in the session. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Adam Maas wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. I happened across that yesterday. It looks like it could be useful in some situations, but remember that in its present implementation it only works with JPEG image files. Turn on RAW+JPEG, however, and it could prove a useful studio preview tool. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Adam Maas wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. I happened across that yesterday. It looks like it could be useful in some situations, but remember that in its present implementation it only works with JPEG image files. Turn on RAW+JPEG, however, and it could prove a useful studio preview tool. Godfrey It looks most useful for event-type work, like the higher-end WiFi grips for the Canikon stuff. That would be JPEG anyways. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/31/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Adam Maas wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. I happened across that yesterday. It looks like it could be useful in some situations, but remember that in its present implementation it only works with JPEG image files. Turn on RAW+JPEG, however, and it could prove a useful studio preview tool. Godfrey It looks most useful for event-type work, like the higher-end WiFi grips for the Canikon stuff. That would be JPEG anyways. You are correct there Sir.:-) Dave -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:46:56AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Adam Maas wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. I happened across that yesterday. It looks like it could be useful in some situations, but remember that in its present implementation it only works with JPEG image files. Turn on RAW+JPEG, however, and it could prove a useful studio preview tool. Godfrey It looks most useful for event-type work, like the higher-end WiFi grips for the Canikon stuff. That would be JPEG anyways. -Adam I disagree. Event photographers don't just use JPEG. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 31, 2007, at 9:30 AM, John Francis wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. I happened across that yesterday. It looks like it could be useful in some situations, but remember that in its present implementation it only works with JPEG image files. Turn on RAW+JPEG, however, and it could prove a useful studio preview tool. Godfrey It looks most useful for event-type work, like the higher-end WiFi grips for the Canikon stuff. That would be JPEG anyways. -Adam I disagree. Event photographers don't just use JPEG. At the workshop last weekend, one of the sessions I attended was on field portraiture and lighting. The photographer giving the talk used a camera fitted with WiFi ... He had the camera set to RAW+JPEG and set to produce monochrome JPEGs. His field setup (shoots of political and sports folks where you get no time to work) transferred the JPEG to the laptop screen so he could see at a glance what an exposure captured ... both lighting and expresion... quickly, without squinting into the LCD and distracting the subject. The subject could also see the exposure, if the photographer chose to set it up that way, and react to it which generated yet more options... It looks useful, in other words. And could be useful in a variety of ways. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/31/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:46:56AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Adam Maas wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. I happened across that yesterday. It looks like it could be useful in some situations, but remember that in its present implementation it only works with JPEG image files. Turn on RAW+JPEG, however, and it could prove a useful studio preview tool. Godfrey It looks most useful for event-type work, like the higher-end WiFi grips for the Canikon stuff. That would be JPEG anyways. -Adam I disagree. Event photographers don't just use JPEG. Just about every one around here, shooting horses and hockey, are all Jpg shooters that i know of. I'm sure some shoot both as well. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Interesting, but you do become dependent on another supplier/vendor for the thing to work. Adam Maas wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Brendan MacRae Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? I haven't looked at the article yet, but if it can transfer on the fly, it would be quite handy for some of the applications we put our equipment to. One of the things we are doing again this year is Santa photos at the local mall. We are thinking about using the WiFi that the Nikon has available to send the images to the lab for immediate printing at the mall the store is located in. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/31/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? If i wanted to keep my computer out of the elements at the show(s), i would need, on average 300' of cables and more. Dave -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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-- Original message -- From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:46:56AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Adam Maas wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. I happened across that yesterday. It looks like it could be useful in some situations, but remember that in its present implementation it only works with JPEG image files. Turn on RAW+JPEG, however, and it could prove a useful studio preview tool. Godfrey It looks most useful for event-type work, like the higher-end WiFi grips for the Canikon stuff. That would be JPEG anyways. -Adam I disagree. Event photographers don't just use JPEG. I was thinking the same thing. I shoot everything in RAW, even weddings and car shows. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities On 10/31/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? If i wanted to keep my computer out of the elements at the show(s), i would need, on average 300' of cables and more. And a generator at the camera to supply the juice to push the signal that far.. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It doesn't transfer RAW files as of yet supposedly. It would be nice to just sit the camera near the computer and have things just happen. Lazy yes, but nice. Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:26:03 -0600 - Original Message - From: Brendan MacRae Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? I haven't looked at the article yet, but if it can transfer on the fly, it would be quite handy for some of the applications we put our equipment to. One of the things we are doing again this year is Santa photos at the local mall. We are thinking about using the WiFi that the Nikon has available to send the images to the lab for immediate printing at the mall the store is located in. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You're correct of course, for most people it really doesn't matter. It would however speed the transfer of images in the instance that one must keep working while shooting (I presume). For most people the attraction is the same convenience as having your laptop or mobile device wifi-enabled. No cords or not having to remove the card. Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The first example I saw of field photographers phoning an image in was at the Chicago Marathon some 4-5 years ago. We were a good 15 miles into the course and the audience along the route was sparse. A Japanese guy (maybe two) had a laptop open on the curb with a short cable to their cell phone (also on the curb) sending images of the elite runners back to someone who was a long way away. The set-up was clumsy, but told you what was possible. Instant coverage. Regards, Bob S. On 10/31/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try it when you're doing hand held work in the field some day. G On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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And if you've got an assistant at the dye-sub printer selling 8x10's for $25/ea to the guests? -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Try it when you're doing hand held work in the field some day. G On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you've got an assistant at the dye-sub printer selling 8x10's for $25/ea to the guests? -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, without RAW transfer I wouldn't bother. Also makes me wonder about the write speed of the card itself. -Brendan --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't transfer RAW files as of yet supposedly. It would be nice to just sit the camera near the computer and have things just happen. Lazy yes, but nice. Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:26:03 -0600 - Original Message - From: Brendan MacRae Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? I haven't looked at the article yet, but if it can transfer on the fly, it would be quite handy for some of the applications we put our equipment to. One of the things we are doing again this year is Santa photos at the local mall. We are thinking about using the WiFi that the Nikon has available to send the images to the lab for immediate printing at the mall the store is located in. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities I disagree. Event photographers don't just use JPEG. I was thinking the same thing. I shoot everything in RAW, even weddings and car shows. We do a lot of stuff with jpeg simply because we are pretty much going straight from camera to print and don't need a RAW workflow. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It's all about throughput and making each second count. Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you've got an assistant at the dye-sub printer selling 8x10's for $25/ea to the guests? -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
Being able to transfer your images directly to the laptop your assistant is using to print and sell the images without having to stop shooting is a money making benefit for event photographers. If you are just taking photos for yourself it is probably only good for bragging rights. I think these days globe trotting photojournalists just connect the camera to their Sat-phone. Often set up so they go out as they are shooting. Sure beats the days when you had to send your film to Outer Mongolia to get it developed. Of course when I was a kid I just dropped the film off at the corner drug store a short block and a half from the house, and right on the way to school. It was usually back the next day. And, you think things are more convenient nowadays. Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's the old-fashioned way, much less efficient that an automated transfer, and you lose shooting time doing it. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you've got an assistant at the dye-sub printer selling 8x10's for $25/ea to the guests? -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
And during the interim you just missed the best shot of the day, but don't worry, you won't know it anyway. ;-) Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you've got an assistant at the dye-sub printer selling 8x10's for $25/ea to the guests? -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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--- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the old-fashioned way, much less efficient that an automated transfer, and you lose shooting time doing it. -Adam Gee, I'm not so sure. How fast is WiFi transfer? Faster than a cable? I transfer very low res images from my cell phone to my Mac via Bluetooth and it takes longer than you'd think. Also, transferring from a card or directly from the camera into my machine requires no menu navigation or anything. I plug in the camera and turn it on and point the images to a folder in Aperture. Is this the same with WiFi? Is the process more complicated? It is with my cell... I see the advantage for wireless only where distance and convenience getting to a computer is an issue, as in William's example, not the speed of the transfer itself which I believe is negligable compared to wired transfer (if I'm wrong someone correct me). -Brendan Brendan MacRae wrote: Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you've got an assistant at the dye-sub printer selling 8x10's for $25/ea to the guests? -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That was my first question. And the fact that they don't mention speed anywhere on their web pages (not even in the Technical Specs) makes me more than a little suspicious. On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 11:00:22AM -0700, Brendan MacRae wrote: Well, without RAW transfer I wouldn't bother. Also makes me wonder about the write speed of the card itself. -Brendan --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't transfer RAW files as of yet supposedly. It would be nice to just sit the camera near the computer and have things just happen. Lazy yes, but nice. Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:26:03 -0600 - Original Message - From: Brendan MacRae Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? I haven't looked at the article yet, but if it can transfer on the fly, it would be quite handy for some of the applications we put our equipment to. One of the things we are doing again this year is Santa photos at the local mall. We are thinking about using the WiFi that the Nikon has available to send the images to the lab for immediate printing at the mall the store is located in. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My tests with the K10D and a 45x card and write speed demonstrate that it is significantly faster than the *ist DS was with a 150x card (30% more RAW exposures in one minute and 50% more JPEG exposures in one minute) so even if this card is a lowly 33x card, I'm sure it would be just fine for the kind of photography I would consider doing with it. Regards transmission speed, as long as it moved a 5Mbyte JPEG file to a computer screen for viewing in 10 seconds or so, it would be just fine by me. Godfrey On Oct 31, 2007, at 11:52 AM, John Francis wrote: That was my first question. And the fact that they don't mention speed anywhere on their web pages (not even in the Technical Specs) makes me more than a little suspicious. On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 11:00:22AM -0700, Brendan MacRae wrote: Well, without RAW transfer I wouldn't bother. Also makes me wonder about the write speed of the card itself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Rght. Welcome my friends to the Land of Highly Improbable Hypotheticals. If my skill as a photographer is so bad that I choose only the worst possible 15 seconds of an hours long event to swap out cards and miss a shot then yes, your comments make sense. Believe it or not though, I can usually find a few seconds to pop in a new card without missing anything of significance. -Brendan --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And during the interim you just missed the best shot of the day, but don't worry, you won't know it anyway. ;-) Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you've got an assistant at the dye-sub printer selling 8x10's for $25/ea to the guests? -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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--- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being able to transfer your images directly to the laptop your assistant is using to print and sell the images without having to stop shooting is a money making benefit for event photographers. True enough. But whether or not there is a real time saving methodology with WiFi is my contention. -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 31, 2007, at 12:16 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: Gee, I'm not so sure. How fast is WiFi transfer? Faster than a cable? I transfer very low res images from my cell phone to my Mac via Bluetooth and it takes longer than you'd think. Also, transferring from a card or directly from the camera into my machine requires no menu navigation or anything. I plug in the camera and turn it on and point the images to a folder in Aperture. Is this the same with WiFi? Is the process more complicated? It is with my cell... I see the advantage for wireless only where distance and convenience getting to a computer is an issue, as in William's example, not the speed of the transfer itself which I believe is negligable compared to wired transfer (if I'm wrong someone correct me). Brendan, You're right: you just don't get it. I didn't either until I saw what people were doing with it and how it could be used. Now I get it ... This is quite common for technologies that incite a paradigm shift in the *way* you work, not what you are doing. Whether I actually have a use for this technology I'm not sure yet. But it's good to know that a cost effective capability like this is available. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Congratulations on your incredible foresight. But keep in mind that just because you can't figure out out to utilize a tool doesn't mean the tool isn't useful. Cheers, Paul Brendan MacRae wrote: Rght. Welcome my friends to the Land of Highly Improbable Hypotheticals. If my skill as a photographer is so bad that I choose only the worst possible 15 seconds of an hours long event to swap out cards and miss a shot then yes, your comments make sense. Believe it or not though, I can usually find a few seconds to pop in a new card without missing anything of significance. -Brendan --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And during the interim you just missed the best shot of the day, but don't worry, you won't know it anyway. ;-) Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you've got an assistant at the dye-sub printer selling 8x10's for $25/ea to the guests? -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Not the card swap, the walk back to your printer to give your assistant the card. That's the efficiency issue. And that's not Highly Improbable. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Rght. Welcome my friends to the Land of Highly Improbable Hypotheticals. If my skill as a photographer is so bad that I choose only the worst possible 15 seconds of an hours long event to swap out cards and miss a shot then yes, your comments make sense. Believe it or not though, I can usually find a few seconds to pop in a new card without missing anything of significance. -Brendan --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And during the interim you just missed the best shot of the day, but don't worry, you won't know it anyway. ;-) Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you've got an assistant at the dye-sub printer selling 8x10's for $25/ea to the guests? -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sure it's hypothetical... but obviously there is enough of a market for the technology to develop it. :-) Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Rght. Welcome my friends to the Land of Highly Improbable Hypotheticals. If my skill as a photographer is so bad that I choose only the worst possible 15 seconds of an hours long event to swap out cards and miss a shot then yes, your comments make sense. Believe it or not though, I can usually find a few seconds to pop in a new card without missing anything of significance. -Brendan --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And during the interim you just missed the best shot of the day, but don't worry, you won't know it anyway. ;-) Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you've got an assistant at the dye-sub printer selling 8x10's for $25/ea to the guests? -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan, You're right: you just don't get it. I didn't either until I saw what people were doing with it and how it could be used. Now I get it ... This is quite common for technologies that incite a paradigm shift in the *way* you work, not what you are doing. A paradigm shift? Hardly. From film to digital...that's a paradigm shift. I can get my images into a computer without WiFi (and without missing it). Whether I actually have a use for this technology I'm not sure yet. But it's good to know that a cost effective capability like this is available. You admit you have no ready use for this cost effective technology and yet it represents a paradigm shift? Pull the other one, Godfrey ;-] -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The first beta model of irun. :-) Dave On 10/31/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first example I saw of field photographers phoning an image in was at the Chicago Marathon some 4-5 years ago. We were a good 15 miles into the course and the audience along the route was sparse. A Japanese guy (maybe two) had a laptop open on the curb with a short cable to their cell phone (also on the curb) sending images of the elite runners back to someone who was a long way away. The set-up was clumsy, but told you what was possible. Instant coverage. Regards, Bob S. On 10/31/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try it when you're doing hand held work in the field some day. G On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Brendan MacRae wrote: --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the old-fashioned way, much less efficient that an automated transfer, and you lose shooting time doing it. -Adam Gee, I'm not so sure. How fast is WiFi transfer? Faster than a cable? I transfer very low res images from my cell phone to my Mac via Bluetooth and it takes longer than you'd think. Bluetooth is a low-bandwidth technology designed for small text files and low-quality Audio, Wifi (ie 802.11b/g/n) is much faster. I don't know the transfer rate on these cards, but I do know the Live-View capable pro bodies from Nikon and Canon can maintain lag-free Live View over WiFi. Also, transferring from a card or directly from the camera into my machine requires no menu navigation or anything. I plug in the camera and turn it on and point the images to a folder in Aperture. Is this the same with WiFi? Is the process more complicated? It is with my cell... Yes, it can be uncomplicated, or complicated if you so choose. I see the advantage for wireless only where distance and convenience getting to a computer is an issue, as in William's example, not the speed of the transfer itself which I believe is negligable compared to wired transfer (if I'm wrong someone correct me). -Brendan Actually, given the low speed of Flash cards (which top out at transfer rates similar to 802.11g's real-world transfer rates) there's no reason why WiFi can't be just as fast as a card reader (which don't come close to maxing out their available bandwidth). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Brendan MacRae wrote: --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan, You're right: you just don't get it. I didn't either until I saw what people were doing with it and how it could be used. Now I get it ... This is quite common for technologies that incite a paradigm shift in the *way* you work, not what you are doing. A paradigm shift? Hardly. From film to digital...that's a paradigm shift. I can get my images into a computer without WiFi (and without missing it). It is a paradigm shift for event and news/sports photographers, especially those who use remote cameras. You can now have the shot on the editors desk within seconds of it happening (rather than minutes/hours with lost shooting time). And remote camera setups, combined with the recent live-view capable Pro DSLR's and wifi, allow you to have someone watching the camera's output and controlling when the picture is taken, totally changing the way these are used. Also, for event photographers, they are no longer tied to their assistant at the printer. They can continue to shoot and move around, knowing that what they just shot is already available to be printed and sold essentially immediately. Whether I actually have a use for this technology I'm not sure yet. But it's good to know that a cost effective capability like this is available. You admit you have no ready use for this cost effective technology and yet it represents a paradigm shift? Pull the other one, Godfrey ;-] -Brendan Godfrey, like myself, is not a professional event/sports photographer, who are the ones that benefit the most from this technology (Although it can also eliminate cabling in the studio, making tethered shooting tether-free). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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--- Paul Crovella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations on your incredible foresight. But keep in mind that just because you can't figure out out to utilize a tool doesn't mean the tool isn't useful. Cheers, Paul I just want to know whether WiFi images transfer really saves time. That was the assumption being touted. I still have my doubts, that's all. -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 31, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan, You're right: you just don't get it. I didn't either until I saw what people were doing with it and how it could be used. Now I get it ... This is quite common for technologies that incite a paradigm shift in the *way* you work, not what you are doing. A paradigm shift? Hardly. From film to digital...that's a paradigm shift. I can get my images into a computer without WiFi (and without missing it). Whether I actually have a use for this technology I'm not sure yet. But it's good to know that a cost effective capability like this is available. You admit you have no ready use for this cost effective technology and yet it represents a paradigm shift? Pull the other one, Godfrey ;-] Forget it, Brendan. It's obvious you just want to reiterate your opinion, not understand the uses or possible advantages of the technology. Others might enjoy debating with you. I prefer discussing what's available and how to use it in order to learn something. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Not only that, but it's now a requirement for any pro/semi-pro body to be competetive for the sports or event shooting markets. -Adam Tom C wrote: Sure it's hypothetical... but obviously there is enough of a market for the technology to develop it. :-) Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Rght. Welcome my friends to the Land of Highly Improbable Hypotheticals. If my skill as a photographer is so bad that I choose only the worst possible 15 seconds of an hours long event to swap out cards and miss a shot then yes, your comments make sense. Believe it or not though, I can usually find a few seconds to pop in a new card without missing anything of significance. -Brendan --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And during the interim you just missed the best shot of the day, but don't worry, you won't know it anyway. ;-) Tom C. From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Ok, so I pop in another card and hand the full one to my assistant selling dye-sub prints to guests. Then go shoot some more. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you've got an assistant at the dye-sub printer selling 8x10's for $25/ea to the guests? -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Why would I do that? I would just pop in another card. -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing that across a dance floor. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -Brendan --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's now a 2GB SD card that also does WiFi transfers. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008022.html So your lowly K110D can now have a capability once reserved for pro and semi-pro bodies, for far less than the high 3-digit price of the Wifi transmitters for those bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 31, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Godfrey, like myself, is not a professional event/sports photographer, who are the ones that benefit the most from this technology (Although it can also eliminate cabling in the studio, making tethered shooting tether-free). I was intrigued with the use of wireless image transfer in the portrait photography endeavor. Watching what the photographer in that session did and how it brought the portrait session to life in a different way inspired me to consider possibilities for the use of wireless as a fast feedback tool. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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--- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a paradigm shift for event and news/sports photographers, especially those who use remote cameras. You can now have the shot on the editors desk within seconds of it happening (rather than minutes/hours with lost shooting time). And remote camera setups, combined with the recent live-view capable Pro DSLR's and wifi, allow you to have someone watching the camera's output and controlling when the picture is taken, totally changing the way these are used. Also, for event photographers, they are no longer tied to their assistant at the printer. They can continue to shoot and move around, knowing that what they just shot is already available to be printed and sold essentially immediately. Can images be sent on the fly or do you have to stop and send the images and then continue shooting? Curious. -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
Brendan MacRae wrote: --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a paradigm shift for event and news/sports photographers, especially those who use remote cameras. You can now have the shot on the editors desk within seconds of it happening (rather than minutes/hours with lost shooting time). And remote camera setups, combined with the recent live-view capable Pro DSLR's and wifi, allow you to have someone watching the camera's output and controlling when the picture is taken, totally changing the way these are used. Also, for event photographers, they are no longer tied to their assistant at the printer. They can continue to shoot and move around, knowing that what they just shot is already available to be printed and sold essentially immediately. Can images be sent on the fly or do you have to stop and send the images and then continue shooting? Curious. -Brendan I'm not 100% sure with this SD card, As far as I know, if it can find a configured WiFi network, it will upload on the fly. The CaNikon WiFi adaptors do on the fly (And some will also now do USB Mass Storage, allowing you to shoot to a USB HDD, like most MF backs allow). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
Nothing. On the other hand, the distance between the camera and the computer is limited by the length of the cable, and the length of the cable is limited by the USB specifications. Further, people trip over cables, possibly knocking your camera and/or computer to the (hard?) ground. --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) - Original Message - From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
Actually, it seemed as though you were knocking the technology because YOU don't perceive any use for it considering how you use YOUR camera. After all your first dig at the device was, and I quote, I just don't get it. What's so tough about hooking a camera to the computer via a cable? There's nothing in there about saves time. Frankly, it doesn't have to save time if it provides convenience. You're like my dog. He can't find any use for my hammer either. --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) - Original Message - From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Paul Crovella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations on your incredible foresight. But keep in mind that just because you can't figure out out to utilize a tool doesn't mean the tool isn't useful. Cheers, Paul I just want to know whether WiFi images transfer really saves time. That was the assumption being touted. I still have my doubts, that's all. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget it, Brendan. It's obvious you just want to reiterate your opinion, not understand the uses or possible advantages of the technology. Not at all. In fact I found Adam's last post very informative. The post where you mentioned seeing in action just didn't open my eyes to the technology as you may have hoped. Sorry. Others might enjoy debating with you. I prefer discussing what's available and how to use it in order to learn something. Godfrey Well, they debate, whether or not they enjoy it? ;-] -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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--- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan MacRae wrote: --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a paradigm shift for event and news/sports photographers, especially those who use remote cameras. You can now have the shot on the editors desk within seconds of it happening (rather than minutes/hours with lost shooting time). And remote camera setups, combined with the recent live-view capable Pro DSLR's and wifi, allow you to have someone watching the camera's output and controlling when the picture is taken, totally changing the way these are used. Also, for event photographers, they are no longer tied to their assistant at the printer. They can continue to shoot and move around, knowing that what they just shot is already available to be printed and sold essentially immediately. Can images be sent on the fly or do you have to stop and send the images and then continue shooting? Curious. -Brendan I'm not 100% sure with this SD card, As far as I know, if it can find a configured WiFi network, it will upload on the fly. Ok, well, if that is the case (we'll assume) then I can see how that WOULD save time as long as the card itself was sufficiently fast. My impression was that it wasn't on the fly, that you'd have to stop to upload...and I didn't see an advantage there. I stand corrected! -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
I'm holding out for wifi to my optic nerve with cerebral RAW adjustment capability and a complete path to save the image back to the card. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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