Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-14 Thread frank theriault
On 10/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In a message dated 10/12/2005 2:59:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> i agree with what everyone else said:  great gallery, definitely not
> run-of-the-mill stuff.
>
> love 'em all!
>
> cheers,
> frank
> ==
> Didn't see this until now.
>
> Thanks, frank. You know I don't get it, I wasn't really trying at all. Just
> snap, snap, snap, snap, snap. Well, I tried with Ode to Magritte, Untitled
> (Max's), and with John Francis Bogarting, but not with much else. So I thought
> everything was just of so-so. And I don't know what to conclude from people
> liking stuff I thought was just so-so. Maybe not very so-so, but pretty so-so.
>
> Maybe be looser all the time?

the better one gets at anything, the less one "tries" - after lots of
practise, it becomes natural, second nature.

-frank


--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/12/2005 7:26:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't find that you frame too tight. I like the style. Tight crops 
are frequently appealing, and if you can do it in camera and get it 
right, that's a plus. Go with your instincts and your vision.
Paul
=
Thanks Paul. I kind of like close crops. Yes, I do. However, sometimes I 
overdo it and lose something. But in some situations, like Not frank the 
cropping 
came later. And I liked it close, so I trimmed off about 1/16-1/8 of an inch 
(well, you know what I mean) on the left and top. But in some situations I do 
frame it too close to play with later. I've left myself no maneuvering room. I 
was really speaking of that. (Though I think Boris wasn't, true.)

Yeah, I like FILLING THE FRAME. lol. 

Well, I was going to lurk and I haven't. And I think I've milked my PESOs and 
GESO as much as I can. Been fun. Enjoyed the feedback and discussion.

I'm going off list for a week or two until I finish something. Because I am a 
total failure at lurking. I am not announcing it anymore officially than 
this. Will be back. Will check archive now and then to see if the 
Samsung/Pentax 
speculation reaches any conclusion.

Ta-Ta, Later. Marnie 



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't find that you frame too tight. I like the style. Tight crops 
are frequently appealing, and if you can do it in camera and get it 
right, that's a plus. Go with your instincts and your vision.

Paul
On Oct 12, 2005, at 9:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In a message dated 10/12/2005 2:59:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i agree with what everyone else said:  great gallery, definitely not
run-of-the-mill stuff.

love 'em all!

cheers,
frank
==
Didn't see this until now.

Thanks, frank. You know I don't get it, I wasn't really trying at all. 
Just
snap, snap, snap, snap, snap. Well, I tried with Ode to Magritte, 
Untitled
(Max's), and with John Francis Bogarting, but not with much else. So I 
thought
everything was just of so-so. And I don't know what to conclude from 
people
liking stuff I thought was just so-so. Maybe not very so-so, but 
pretty so-so.


Maybe be looser all the time?

Hehehehehehe.

Marnie aka Doe





Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/12/2005 2:59:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i agree with what everyone else said:  great gallery, definitely not
run-of-the-mill stuff.

love 'em all!

cheers,
frank
==
Didn't see this until now. 

Thanks, frank. You know I don't get it, I wasn't really trying at all. Just 
snap, snap, snap, snap, snap. Well, I tried with Ode to Magritte, Untitled 
(Max's), and with John Francis Bogarting, but not with much else. So I thought 
everything was just of so-so. And I don't know what to conclude from people 
liking stuff I thought was just so-so. Maybe not very so-so, but pretty so-so.

Maybe be looser all the time? 

Hehehehehehe.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/12/2005 2:50:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Generally, Marnie I have one nagging impression having looked at the 
gallery. It is the same with me, hence it easily started nagging me. You 
crop/frame too tight... At least I think so.

Also I am pleased to see faces of few PDMLers whom I had no luck seeing 
before. John Francis has a serious beard. And for some odd inexplicable 
reason, Juan looks more or less exactly how I imagined he would look. At 
least on the photograph.

Boris
=
Yeah, it's a bad habit. Stems from my painting days when I could totally 
control what went on the canvas. I try to remember to shoot wider, then I 
forget. 
I really should shoot wider and crop later. Point taken.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

>John Francis has a serious beard.

Mark!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-12 Thread frank theriault
On 10/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yup, I decided to throw my gallery of the NorCal Meet up there now. That way
> I can get on to other things this week and stop thinking about it.
>
> And, yes, pictures of PDMLers are included. Although I didn't get good
> individual shots of John Celio and Bruce Dayton, so I left them out (they 
> were very
> unflattering and you guys owe me some money. ;-))
>
> Along with some more attempts at street photography and a few other things.
>
> Nothing great. Although there are one or two (maybe three) that I sort of
> like.
>
> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html
>
> Does not include the four PESOs that I have already shown.
>
> Comments acceptable. (Read as welcome).
>

i agree with what everyone else said:  great gallery, definitely not
run-of-the-mill stuff.

love 'em all!

cheers,
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-12 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

Yup, I decided to throw my gallery of the NorCal Meet up there now. That way 
I can get on to other things this week and stop thinking about it.


And, yes, pictures of PDMLers are included. Although I didn't get good 
individual shots of John Celio and Bruce Dayton, so I left them out (they were very 
unflattering and you guys owe me some money. ;-))


Along with some more attempts at street photography and a few other things. 

Nothing great. Although there are one or two (maybe three) that I sort of 
like.


http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html

Does not include the four PESOs that I have already shown.


http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/pages/CRW_6874.html - I kind of 
like it. It has a bit of ironic unfinishedness in it that I sense.


http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/pages/CRW_6881.html - this is 
quite excellent, at least to my eyes. Though on my monitor it seems tad 
unsharp. Also b/w conversion could be considered. Then by playing with 
tones and such the tattoo on the guys back can be made more prominent...


Generally, Marnie I have one nagging impression having looked at the 
gallery. It is the same with me, hence it easily started nagging me. You 
crop/frame too tight... At least I think so.


Also I am pleased to see faces of few PDMLers whom I had no luck seeing 
before. John Francis has a serious beard. And for some odd inexplicable 
reason, Juan looks more or less exactly how I imagined he would look. At 
least on the photograph.


Boris



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/11/2005 9:59:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
NOT FRANK and MAX's CAFE leapt out at me

had to see who taht good looking guy was - and I
see it is Juan :)

I'm too sleepy to do this . but certainly some
nice stuff there, girl

ann

I was thinking of the stuff you shoot when I shot Untitled (Max's). Yes, he 
is, isn't he? 

Thanks! Ann.

Marnie aka Doe :-)



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 

> 
> Nothing great. Although there are one or two (maybe three) that I sort of
> like.
> 
> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html
> 

> 
> Marnie aka Doe ;-)

NOT FRANK and MAX's CAFE leapt out at me

had to see who taht good looking guy was - and I
see it is Juan :)

I'm too sleepy to do this . but certainly some
nice stuff there, girl

ann



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/11/2005 3:07:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marnie,

First let me say thank you for not showing my mug close up in your gallery. :)

My favorite shot is 'Not Frank' - Can't even articulate why I like it,
but I do.  I also liked 'Young Love' - really reminds me of walking
the streets of SF.  Lots to like here - some good stuff that works
together as a gallery.

You got some good documentary shots of the PDML outing - something I
didn't get, so good job there.  We didn't really take a group photo,
so your shots are probably the best we have.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce
==
Thanks, Bruce. And forget the IOU (for suppressing your photo), I'll call us 
even. 

Funny, I almost didn't include Not Frank in the gallery -- I thought maybe it 
was too simple, but I now I am glad I did.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
Marnie,

First let me say thank you for not showing my mug close up in your gallery. :)

My favorite shot is 'Not Frank' - Can't even articulate why I like it,
but I do.  I also liked 'Young Love' - really reminds me of walking
the streets of SF.  Lots to like here - some good stuff that works
together as a gallery.

You got some good documentary shots of the PDML outing - something I
didn't get, so good job there.  We didn't really take a group photo,
so your shots are probably the best we have.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Monday, October 10, 2005, 2:55:31 PM, you wrote:

Eac> Yup, I decided to throw my gallery of the NorCal Meet up there now. That 
way
Eac> I can get on to other things this week and stop thinking about it.

Eac> And, yes, pictures of PDMLers are included. Although I didn't get good
Eac> individual shots of John Celio and Bruce Dayton, so I left them out (they 
were very
Eac> unflattering and you guys owe me some money. ;-))

Eac> Along with some more attempts at street photography and a few other things.

Eac> Nothing great. Although there are one or two (maybe three) that I sort of
Eac> like.

Eac> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html

Eac> Does not include the four PESOs that I have already shown.

Eac> Comments acceptable. (Read as welcome).

Eac> Marnie aka Doe ;-)





Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Oct 11, 2005, at 12:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html


LOL ... for what? for showing my jowly cheek? I'm a cheeky sod, it
can stay... ;-)

Actually, I meant am I going to owe you because you will suppress  
photos of
me? (Although I am not aware that you took any, but you never  
know.) But, yeah,
I figured the cheek could stay, because hardly anyone would look  
good/great

at that angle.


:-)
No, sorry Marnie. I didn't get too many photos of the PDMLers (I  
think my best shots of our company of friends were taken with the  
camera phone during dinner!).


Godfrey



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/11/2005 12:27:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Oct 11, 2005, at 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html
>
> Thanks. Bruce and John (Celio) owe me money. Am I going to owe you?
>
> (i.e. I suppressed their photos.)

LOL ... for what? for showing my jowly cheek? I'm a cheeky sod, it  
can stay... ;-)

Godfrey

Actually, I meant am I going to owe you because you will suppress photos of 
me? (Although I am not aware that you took any, but you never know.) But, yeah, 
I figured the cheek could stay, because hardly anyone would look good/great 
at that angle. 

I mean, really, they wouldn't.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Oct 11, 2005, at 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html


Thanks. Bruce and John (Celio) owe me money. Am I going to owe you?

(i.e. I suppressed their photos.)


LOL ... for what? for showing my jowly cheek? I'm a cheeky sod, it  
can stay... ;-)


Godfrey



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/11/2005 10:49:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Oct 10, 2005, at 2:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html

I particularly like "Not Frank" too. A simple, clean composition,  
nice lines, etc.

Good to see the photos... I'm going to pull a summary of mine up into  
a web gallery today if I get the time. It was an excellent time as  
usual for PDML gatherings.

Godfrey
=
Thanks. Bruce and John (Celio) owe me money. Am I going to owe you?

(i.e. I suppressed their photos.)

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Oct 10, 2005, at 2:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html


I particularly like "Not Frank" too. A simple, clean composition,  
nice lines, etc.


Good to see the photos... I'm going to pull a summary of mine up into  
a web gallery today if I get the time. It was an excellent time as  
usual for PDML gatherings.


Godfrey



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/11/2005 3:33:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Marnie
I like the "not frank" and "cable car" shot best.
Most photos seem to have a red/magenta cast and the shots from the PDML may
be good for the memory only;-)
greetings
Markus


>>http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html

=
Thanks, Markus. Actually, that's me. I think I adjusted the temperature too 
much converting RAW to JPEGS. Did it on the first 1/2 I converted then realized 
it was adding a reddish tone. I need to play with RAW conversion more because 
I am still not really sure what changing the temperature does. I've got to 
read Real World Camera RAW. 

Also I have a spyder to adjust my monitor but there's been a problem with 
that, so I haven't been able to adjust it yet.

Yeah, the people shots are more snapshots, but I still like the one of John. 
;-) Hehehe.

Thanks for looking.

Marnie aka Doe 



RE: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-11 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Marnie
I like the "not frank" and "cable car" shot best.
Most photos seem to have a red/magenta cast and the shots from the PDML may
be good for the memory only;-)
greetings
Markus


>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:56 PM
>>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
>>Subject: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS
>>
>>
>>Yup, I decided to throw my gallery of the NorCal Meet up there
>>now. That way
>>I can get on to other things this week and stop thinking about it.
>>
>>And, yes, pictures of PDMLers are included. Although I didn't get good
>>individual shots of John Celio and Bruce Dayton, so I left them
>>out (they were very
>>unflattering and you guys owe me some money. ;-))
>>
>>Along with some more attempts at street photography and a few
>>other things.
>>
>>Nothing great. Although there are one or two (maybe three) that I sort of
>>like.
>>
>>http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html
>>
>>Does not include the four PESOs that I have already shown.
>>
>>Comments acceptable. (Read as welcome).
>>
>>Marnie aka Doe ;-)
>>



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-10 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/10/2005 6:06:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html

What do you mean "nothing great"? You know what they say about letting
the great be the enemy of the good. Sometimes you don't need to strive
for "great"... and end up missing a lot if you do. You've put together a
really fun gallery Marnie.
I really like "Not Frank". And "Have a Nice Trip" could be one of
Frank's shots - that's a compliment, mostly ;-)
"John Francis bogarting that sandwich" looks reminiscent of Annsan's
work and would be a cool shot even without that title - maybe it needs a
monochrome conversion, though. Come to think of it, several of these
might be better in B&W. Give it a go.


-- 
Mark Roberts
===
I might. You did notice Bogart in the background, right?

Thanks, Mark.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-10 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Nothing great. Although there are one or two (maybe three) that I sort of 
>like.
>
>http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html

What do you mean "nothing great"? You know what they say about letting
the great be the enemy of the good. Sometimes you don't need to strive
for "great"... and end up missing a lot if you do. You've put together a
really fun gallery Marnie.
I really like "Not Frank". And "Have a Nice Trip" could be one of
Frank's shots - that's a compliment, mostly ;-)
"John Francis bogarting that sandwich" looks reminiscent of Annsan's
work and would be a cool shot even without that title - maybe it needs a
monochrome conversion, though. Come to think of it, several of these
might be better in B&W. Give it a go.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-10 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/10/2005 3:32:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You're far too modest. I really like "Not Frank," "Cable Car," and 
"Untitled" (the cafe). Good work.
Paul
==
Untitled was on my rather like list. In fact, it may be my favorite.

Too bad the tattoo doesn't really show in Not Frank. But it is what grabbed 
my attention. Looks like two bicycle wheels.

Thanks, Paul.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
You're far too modest. I really like "Not Frank," "Cable Car," and 
"Untitled" (the cafe). Good work.

Paul
On Oct 10, 2005, at 5:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yup, I decided to throw my gallery of the NorCal Meet up there now. 
That way

I can get on to other things this week and stop thinking about it.

And, yes, pictures of PDMLers are included. Although I didn't get good
individual shots of John Celio and Bruce Dayton, so I left them out 
(they were very

unflattering and you guys owe me some money. ;-))

Along with some more attempts at street photography and a few other 
things.


Nothing great. Although there are one or two (maybe three) that I sort 
of

like.

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html

Does not include the four PESOs that I have already shown.

Comments acceptable. (Read as welcome).

Marnie aka Doe ;-)





Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-10 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/10/2005 3:03:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks for posting Marn. 6866 is a great shot (John munching). The catch
of Juan is nice. Good to see some faces, and I didn't realise Godders is
also a font ;-)

Thanks.



Cheers,
  Cotty
==
Hehehehehe. Dyslexia strikes again. Yeah, I rather liked the one of John 
myself.

Thanks!

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS

2005-10-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

>Yup, I decided to throw my gallery of the NorCal Meet up there now. That way 
>I can get on to other things this week and stop thinking about it.
>
>And, yes, pictures of PDMLers are included. Although I didn't get good 
>individual shots of John Celio and Bruce Dayton, so I left them out (they
>were very 
>unflattering and you guys owe me some money. ;-))
>
>Along with some more attempts at street photography and a few other things. 
>
>Nothing great. Although there are one or two (maybe three) that I sort of 
>like.
>
>http://members.aol.com/eactivist/MEET2/index.html
>
>Does not include the four PESOs that I have already shown.
>
>Comments acceptable. (Read as welcome).

Thanks for posting Marn. 6866 is a great shot (John munching). The catch
of Juan is nice. Good to see some faces, and I didn't realise Godders is
also a font ;-)

Thanks.



Cheers,
  Cotty


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