Re: K-5 at high ISO
Excellent shot and set, Larry! Go K-5! Cheers, Christine On Aug 4, 2011, at 5:01 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250. In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/ If you're curious about the rest of the set: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/ I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 540 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are ambient light. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
That is nice. The high ISO shots on the K5 have a nice look to them. -Original Message- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 03:01:58 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: K-5 at high ISO I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250. In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/ If you're curious about the rest of the set: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/ I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 540 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are ambient light. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
That is a great shot and example of the high iso of the K-5. I wish my Nikon D2H at 400 was that good, but it is ancient technology at 7 years old.:-)That was one of my major nits with my D2H, among others, that the iso noise was not that great 400 and above. Dave On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250. In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/ If you're curious about the rest of the set: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/ I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 540 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are ambient light. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
I think I would be a little more than fairly happy with that photo. Good work! on Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:02:06 -0700 Larry Colen wrote: I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250. In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/ If you're curious about the rest of the set: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/ I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 540 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are ambient light. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
I'd say you did fine - even the one or two where you don't see their eyes are interesting. ann On 8/4/2011 06:01, Larry Colen wrote: I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250. In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/ If you're curious about the rest of the set: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/ I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 540 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are ambient light. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
Thanks for posting these, Larry. Well composed with very impressive ISO performance. Jack --- On Thu, 8/4/11, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: K-5 at high ISO To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 3:01 AM I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250. In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/ If you're curious about the rest of the set: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/ I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 540 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are ambient light. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
On Aug 4, 2011, at 5:47 AM, Keith Mosier wrote: I think I would be a little more than fairly happy with that photo. Good work! Thanks Keith, also Dave, Ann, Jack, Steve and anyone else who comments. Livia is a fun subject to photograph. She's also an amazing guitar player, especially since she's only 17. on Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:02:06 -0700 Larry Colen wrote: I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250. In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/ If you're curious about the rest of the set: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/ I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 540 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are ambient light. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
On 2011-08-04 04:01 , Larry Colen wrote: I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250. In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/ you don't make it easy to resist the K-5 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:29 AM, steve harley wrote: On 2011-08-04 04:01 , Larry Colen wrote: I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250. In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/ you don't make it easy to resist the K-5 Alcoholics in recovery shouldn't hang out in bars. If you're trying to resist the K-5, you shouldn't read the PDML. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
On 2011-08-04 13:16 , Larry Colen wrote: On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:29 AM, steve harley wrote: On 2011-08-04 04:01 , Larry Colen wrote: I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250. In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/ you don't make it easy to resist the K-5 Alcoholics in recovery shouldn't hang out in bars. If you're trying to resist the K-5, you shouldn't read the PDML. i guess it is a test of my resolve; i'm still able to practice well and get satisfying shots with my K200d; the best beer in the world is the one you're drinking -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 03:05:20PM -0600, steve harley wrote: i guess it is a test of my resolve; i'm still able to practice well and get satisfying shots with my K200d; That's what I said about my K10D (Heck, most of the time the *ist-D is plenty good enough). That lasted through the K20D era. The K-7 was tempting, but there were just enough things wrong with it (or if not exactly wrong, at least capable of being tweaked a little) to make me want to hang on for the K-7s (which turned out to be the K-5 instead). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
On Aug 4, 2011, at 2:05 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2011-08-04 13:16 , Larry Colen wrote: On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:29 AM, steve harley wrote: On 2011-08-04 04:01 , Larry Colen wrote: I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250. In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/ you don't make it easy to resist the K-5 Alcoholics in recovery shouldn't hang out in bars. If you're trying to resist the K-5, you shouldn't read the PDML. i guess it is a test of my resolve; i'm still able to practice well and get satisfying shots with my K200d; the best beer in the world is the one you're drinking A talented photographer can get great shots with any camera. The difference a good camera makes is which shots that they can get. There's no way that I could have put the 18-250 on my K100, or even my K20 and gotten a decent shot in that lighting if the subject was moving at all. If you don't need the performance of the K-5 for the photos that you're taking today, then wait a while. In a year or two, you should be able to either get performance that makes the K-5 look like the K-x, or the performance of the K-5 for the price of a K-x. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
On 4 August 2011 11:01, Larry Colen wrote: I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250. In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/ If you're curious about the rest of the set: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/ I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 540 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are ambient light. That's an excellent shot Larry - and the rest are good too. Ambient is good for gig photography - especially if you can get high ISO performance as good as that. I thought she'd switched to left handed in this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007733745/ But the exit sign's a bit of a give away. Chris Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
On Aug 4, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote: On 4 August 2011 11:01, Larry Colen wrote: I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250. In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/ If you're curious about the rest of the set: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/ I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 540 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are ambient light. That's an excellent shot Larry - and the rest are good too. Ambient is good for gig photography - especially if you can get high ISO performance as good as that. Thank you. Ideally, I like to use a gridded strobe as fill, just on the musicians face, to bring color balance in, and increase sharpness. With a grid on the strobe, and just enough for fill, the flash doesn't act like a photon grenade, and people hardly notice it. I thought she'd switched to left handed in this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007733745/ I was expecting the flyer in the upper right corner to be a bit more prominent. In many ways I liked the lighting from that angle better than what I could get straight on. But the exit sign's a bit of a give away. I suppose I could flip it and let people wonder how I got a flyer to levitate in mid air over her. Chris Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at high ISO
On 2011-08-04 15:34 , Larry Colen wrote: A talented photographer can get great shots with any camera. The difference a good camera makes is which shots that they can get. well aware of that; and it depends what kind of shots one wants to get ... i used to love shooting at dusk with 800 film, 20/2.8 lens, hand holding at 1/8, 1/4 second ... the results weren't that great, but i've since developed the technique side a bit, and sometime soon i'll work on the equipment side -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 here, high iso samples
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:33 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I no longer have any of those lenses. I have only the three DA* zooms and the DA 12-24, in addition to some FA, A and SMC primes. However, I'm sure it works fine with the DA primes as well as the 16-45 and 50-200, both of which are excellent lenses for the money. Paul Your not helping.:-) Dave On Nov 5, 2010, at 7:57 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Paul, any usage with the camera using the 16-45, 50-200 or any of the limited, say the 77. Dave On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:36 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: K-5 metering is definitely very good. The autofocus seems better than the K7. I was able to shoot Grace in light that required f2.8 @ 1/15th at 6400 ISO. It locked in fairly easily. Immediately on some shots. And after a second or so on others. I have no cameras other than Pentax. to compare that too, but I know it's better than all previous Pentax DSLRs. Paul On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:15 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:16 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: If you shoot RAW DNG, almost any conversion software will support the K-5. Paul When i shoot Raw with the K10D, i always choice DNG. I was thinking along the lines if i ever cans save enough to seriously look at a D300 or D700. I 'll think about a K-5 if there is enough improvement in AF speed and metering. Looks like high iso has been looked after. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 here, high iso samples
The good part for me (since I just got the K7) is that I still have a capable camera and a good excuse. Well, it's only a K7 . . . The rest of you will have to produce. On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 8:07 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:33 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I no longer have any of those lenses. I have only the three DA* zooms and the DA 12-24, in addition to some FA, A and SMC primes. However, I'm sure it works fine with the DA primes as well as the 16-45 and 50-200, both of which are excellent lenses for the money. Paul Your not helping.:-) Dave On Nov 5, 2010, at 7:57 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Paul, any usage with the camera using the 16-45, 50-200 or any of the limited, say the 77. Dave On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:36 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: K-5 metering is definitely very good. The autofocus seems better than the K7. I was able to shoot Grace in light that required f2.8 @ 1/15th at 6400 ISO. It locked in fairly easily. Immediately on some shots. And after a second or so on others. I have no cameras other than Pentax. to compare that too, but I know it's better than all previous Pentax DSLRs. Paul On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:15 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:16 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: If you shoot RAW DNG, almost any conversion software will support the K-5. Paul When i shoot Raw with the K10D, i always choice DNG. I was thinking along the lines if i ever cans save enough to seriously look at a D300 or D700. I 'll think about a K-5 if there is enough improvement in AF speed and metering. Looks like high iso has been looked after. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 here, high iso samples
On 11/3/2010 6:12 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 11/3/2010 1:05 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Bob Sullivan bought a K-5 as well. I believe his arrived yesterday. Paul Right, he was selling his K20D for the reason :-). Soon enough the likes of me holding on to their older cameras would be considered photographically retarded. *broad grin* Boris Retarded is so un-PC, use challenged instead. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 here, high iso samples
Paul, any usage with the camera using the 16-45, 50-200 or any of the limited, say the 77. Dave On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:36 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: K-5 metering is definitely very good. The autofocus seems better than the K7. I was able to shoot Grace in light that required f2.8 @ 1/15th at 6400 ISO. It locked in fairly easily. Immediately on some shots. And after a second or so on others. I have no cameras other than Pentax. to compare that too, but I know it's better than all previous Pentax DSLRs. Paul On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:15 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:16 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: If you shoot RAW DNG, almost any conversion software will support the K-5. Paul When i shoot Raw with the K10D, i always choice DNG. I was thinking along the lines if i ever cans save enough to seriously look at a D300 or D700. I 'll think about a K-5 if there is enough improvement in AF speed and metering. Looks like high iso has been looked after. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I no longer have any of those lenses. I have only the three DA* zooms and the DA 12-24, in addition to some FA, A and SMC primes. However, I'm sure it works fine with the DA primes as well as the 16-45 and 50-200, both of which are excellent lenses for the money. Paul On Nov 5, 2010, at 7:57 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Paul, any usage with the camera using the 16-45, 50-200 or any of the limited, say the 77. Dave On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:36 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: K-5 metering is definitely very good. The autofocus seems better than the K7. I was able to shoot Grace in light that required f2.8 @ 1/15th at 6400 ISO. It locked in fairly easily. Immediately on some shots. And after a second or so on others. I have no cameras other than Pentax. to compare that too, but I know it's better than all previous Pentax DSLRs. Paul On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:15 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:16 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: If you shoot RAW DNG, almost any conversion software will support the K-5. Paul When i shoot Raw with the K10D, i always choice DNG. I was thinking along the lines if i ever cans save enough to seriously look at a D300 or D700. I 'll think about a K-5 if there is enough improvement in AF speed and metering. Looks like high iso has been looked after. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:32 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: David J Brooks I must say i'm impressed. So does CS5 support the K-5 then.?? Doesn't look like it's in there yet. It does support the 645D. Right now i am looking at cameras that my computers ie LR2 and CS1 will support. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If you shoot RAW DNG, almost any conversion software will support the K-5. Paul On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:53 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:32 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: David J Brooks I must say i'm impressed. So does CS5 support the K-5 then.?? Doesn't look like it's in there yet. It does support the 645D. Right now i am looking at cameras that my computers ie LR2 and CS1 will support. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I used to think RAW DNG was something you got at a Korean restaurant. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:16 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: If you shoot RAW DNG, almost any conversion software will support the K-5. Paul On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:53 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:32 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: David J Brooks I must say i'm impressed. So does CS5 support the K-5 then.?? Doesn't look like it's in there yet. It does support the 645D. Right now i am looking at cameras that my computers ie LR2 and CS1 will support. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: David J Brooks On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:32 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: David J Brooks I must say i'm impressed. So does CS5 support the K-5 then.?? Doesn't look like it's in there yet. It does support the 645D. Right now i am looking at cameras that my computers ie LR2 and CS1 will support. Dave Don't the new Pentax DSLRs still .DNG as an in camera RAW file option? Shouldn't LR2 CS1 be able to handle .DNG files even from newer cameras? I've been giving some thought to switching to .DNG for my raw format, at least temporarily to experiment with it. Who knows? It might even prove advantageous. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Shouldn't LR2 CS1 be able to handle .DNG files even from newer cameras? I've been giving some thought to switching to .DNG for my raw format, at least temporarily to experiment with it. Who knows? It might even prove advantageous. My only question is what gets lost when you save as .dng? Does any of the metadata get thrown away? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Shouldn't LR2 CS1 be able to handle .DNG files even from newer cameras? I've been giving some thought to switching to .DNG for my raw format, at least temporarily to experiment with it. Who knows? It might even prove advantageous. My only question is what gets lost when you save as .dng? Does any of the metadata get thrown away? Not as far as I can see. RAW DNG files display the same metadata in ACR as the PEF files. I've shot both off and on for years. No problem either way. Paul -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Larry Colen On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Shouldn't LR2 CS1 be able to handle .DNG files even from newer cameras? I've been giving some thought to switching to .DNG for my raw format, at least temporarily to experiment with it. Who knows? It might even prove advantageous. My only question is what gets lost when you save as .dng? Does any of the metadata get thrown away? I don't think so. Certainly not from the .DNG raw format Pentax implements in camera. I think the only real difference is in the way the raw sensor data is organized and the .DNG has to have capability to store information on multiple sensor Color Filter Array patterns that wouldn't be required in a proprietary raw file that has to deal only with a single pattern. It's TIFF/EP with a TIFF structure for Exif metadata, XMP metadata and IPTC metadata. Basically, if there's a form of metadata Photoshop or Lightroom recognizes, .DNG would accommodate it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 3:53 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Shouldn't LR2 CS1 be able to handle .DNG files even from newer cameras? I've been giving some thought to switching to .DNG for my raw format, at least temporarily to experiment with it. Who knows? It might even prove advantageous. My only question is what gets lost when you save as .dng? Does any of the metadata get thrown away? I don't think so. Certainly not from the .DNG raw format Pentax implements in camera. I think the only real difference is in the way the raw sensor data is organized and the .DNG has to have capability to store information on multiple sensor Color Filter Array patterns that wouldn't be required in a proprietary raw file that has to deal only with a single pattern. It's TIFF/EP with a TIFF structure for Exif metadata, XMP metadata and IPTC metadata. Basically, if there's a form of metadata Photoshop or Lightroom recognizes, .DNG would accommodate it. I haven't compared the exiftool output of two shots, one taken in .pef and one in .dng, but for some reason I thought they didn't save quite as many details in the .dng. It's also possible that I'm misremembering, and that it is stuff that gets lost when you convert to .dng. Or, I could be just completely wrong and that everything gets copied over there as well. I suppose that if I were really paranoid, I'd shoot in .pef, save a copy in .pef, convert to .dng and save a copy in that format on another drive. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:16 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: If you shoot RAW DNG, almost any conversion software will support the K-5. Paul When i shoot Raw with the K10D, i always choice DNG. I was thinking along the lines if i ever cans save enough to seriously look at a D300 or D700. I 'll think about a K-5 if there is enough improvement in AF speed and metering. Looks like high iso has been looked after. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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K-5 metering is definitely very good. The autofocus seems better than the K7. I was able to shoot Grace in light that required f2.8 @ 1/15th at 6400 ISO. It locked in fairly easily. Immediately on some shots. And after a second or so on others. I have no cameras other than Pentax. to compare that too, but I know it's better than all previous Pentax DSLRs. Paul On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:15 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:16 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: If you shoot RAW DNG, almost any conversion software will support the K-5. Paul When i shoot Raw with the K10D, i always choice DNG. I was thinking along the lines if i ever cans save enough to seriously look at a D300 or D700. I 'll think about a K-5 if there is enough improvement in AF speed and metering. Looks like high iso has been looked after. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob Sullivan bought a K-5 as well. I believe his arrived yesterday. Paul On Nov 3, 2010, at 1:44 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: So, Paul, I suppose you're the second one on the list after William Robb, who got this camera. Or at least if my memory does not fail me, you are. Congratulations. Good pictures. Meanwhile it seems I will be buying Topaz Denoise as it does wonders to my shoot-in-the-dark-and-underexpose-with-high-ISO images... It is good to know that technology is advancing. Boris On 11/2/2010 11:17 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/3/2010 1:05 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Bob Sullivan bought a K-5 as well. I believe his arrived yesterday. Paul Right, he was selling his K20D for the reason :-). Soon enough the likes of me holding on to their older cameras would be considered photographically retarded. *broad grin* Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Soon enough the likes of me holding on to their older cameras would be considered photographically retarded. *broad grin* The opposite, Boris. In fact, I envy you. I'd rather not be spending yet another 1300 euros tomorrow. I really hope the K-5 wil keep me going for at least two years, for a change, as did the K10D. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 Wow! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris, Here is a quick and dirty look at ISO12800 on the K-5 from last night. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/K5ISO12800# I used the DFA 100mm f2.8 macro at f6.3, 1/500 f4,1/320 f2.8, 1/30 f2.8, 1/90 Noise reduction in Lightroom 3.2 clean them right up amazingly! Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: So, Paul, I suppose you're the second one on the list after William Robb, who got this camera. Or at least if my memory does not fail me, you are. Congratulations. Good pictures. Meanwhile it seems I will be buying Topaz Denoise as it does wonders to my shoot-in-the-dark-and-underexpose-with-high-ISO images... It is good to know that technology is advancing. Boris On 11/2/2010 11:17 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/3/2010 1:27 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: I really hope the K-5 wil keep me going for at least two years, for a change, as did the K10D. Ralf Replied off list... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/3/2010 1:34 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, Here is a quick and dirty look at ISO12800 on the K-5 from last night. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/K5ISO12800# I used the DFA 100mm f2.8 macro at f6.3, 1/500 f4,1/320 f2.8, 1/30 f2.8, 1/90 Noise reduction in Lightroom 3.2 clean them right up amazingly! Regards, Bob S. Oh, my regards to your wife and daughter :-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for this, Bob! Impressive! Jack --- On Wed, 11/3/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Re: K-5 here, high iso samples To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 4:40 AM On 11/3/2010 1:34 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, Here is a quick and dirty look at ISO12800 on the K-5 from last night. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/K5ISO12800# I used the DFA 100mm f2.8 macro at f6.3, 1/500 f4,1/320 f2.8, 1/30 f2.8, 1/90 Noise reduction in Lightroom 3.2 clean them right up amazingly! Regards, Bob S. Oh, my regards to your wife and daughter :-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I must say i'm impressed. So does CS5 support the K-5 then.?? Dave On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Nov 3, 2010, at 9:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I must say i'm impressed. So does CS5 support the K-5 then.?? Probably. But I'm still working with CS4, so I just save RAWs as DNG files. Paul Dave On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:19 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 3, 2010, at 9:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I must say i'm impressed. So does CS5 support the K-5 then.?? Probably. But I'm still working with CS4, so I just save RAWs as DNG files. Paul Ah yes. I keep forgetting about that part Dave Dave On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: David J Brooks I must say i'm impressed. So does CS5 support the K-5 then.?? Doesn't look like it's in there yet. It does support the 645D. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I know it's not good to covet, but I I'm finding it hard to resist Congrats on your new arrival! I trust you'll let us know if you get the chance to do side-by-side comparisons with the k-7 k-5, at the same iso. You know, just so I can be sure I've thoroughly tortured myself... ;) Enjoy! -c On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Nov 2, 2010, at 2:17 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 Damnit Paul, Are you trying to get me to get off my ass and get a job? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Paul: Looks good. I'm VERY interested in low light auto focus performance of the K5. Would very much like to hear your views on this topic. Cheers, Christine from Chicago - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 4:17 PM Subject: K-5 here, high iso samples My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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iso 12800. I find it amazing that you even get a usable image, and that one is pretty good. The portrait is a bit noisy full crop, but looks fine as a normal image. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Paul: Looks good. I'm VERY interested in low light auto focus performance of the K5. Would very much like to hear your views on this topic. Cheers, Christine from Chicago - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 4:17 PM Subject: K-5 here, high iso samples My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Indeed. A couple more quantum leaps in noise control and maybe we can relegate anti-shake to the history books. Just set the shutter speed at 1/8,000. Jeffery On Nov 2, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: iso 12800. I find it amazing that you even get a usable image, and that one is pretty good. The portrait is a bit noisy full crop, but looks fine as a normal image. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Paul: Looks good. I'm VERY interested in low light auto focus performance of the K5. Would very much like to hear your views on this topic. Cheers, Christine from Chicago -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Pentax content on the PDML? I find that offensive :) Thanks for the samples. Wow. - Peter -Original Message- From: P N Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 7:47 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: K-5 here, high iso samples My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It is an interesting combination. Even on my rather pedestrian K7, iso 1600, FA50 1.4, a few stops of SR, and that Borgish green focus light makes me wonder if the only reason I need light anymore is so I can see to frame the shot. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: Indeed. A couple more quantum leaps in noise control and maybe we can relegate anti-shake to the history books. Just set the shutter speed at 1/8,000. Jeffery On Nov 2, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: iso 12800. I find it amazing that you even get a usable image, and that one is pretty good. The portrait is a bit noisy full crop, but looks fine as a normal image. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Paul: Looks good. I'm VERY interested in low light auto focus performance of the K5. Would very much like to hear your views on this topic. Cheers, Christine from Chicago -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's pretty impressive! But my K7 has only 2200 exposures on it, so I'm trying not to be =too= impressed! Are you acquainted with the moire-based, live-view-employing focus adjustment technique? It made me stop dreading focus adjustment. http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/cameras/1ds3_af_micoadjustment.html Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Tue, 11/2/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: K-5 here, high iso samples To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 5:17 PM My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 --PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Holy crap, I want mine NOW!! Hoping to get mine in the next few weeks, but I am actually too busy to even think about it - at least the bank balance will be looking healthy enough pretty soon though... t.x. PS no fair, you beat me to it! -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P N Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2010 7:18 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: K-5 here, high iso samples My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks. I'll take a look. Paul On Nov 2, 2010, at 8:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote: That's pretty impressive! But my K7 has only 2200 exposures on it, so I'm trying not to be =too= impressed! Are you acquainted with the moire-based, live-view-employing focus adjustment technique? It made me stop dreading focus adjustment. http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/cameras/1ds3_af_micoadjustment.html Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Tue, 11/2/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: K-5 here, high iso samples To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 5:17 PM My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 --PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Interesting method. Also an interesting statement: if you had a camera that incorporates both Phase Detect and Contrast Detect AF, then you could just point it at a target and it would self calibrate the AF. Indeed - wouldn't that be nice. Pentax? - Peter -Original Message- From: Rick Womer Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:53 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5 here, high iso samples That's pretty impressive! But my K7 has only 2200 exposures on it, so I'm trying not to be =too= impressed! Are you acquainted with the moire-based, live-view-employing focus adjustment technique? It made me stop dreading focus adjustment. http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/cameras/1ds3_af_micoadjustment.html Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Erm, at the risk of sounding like a very unprofessional, professional, what is focus adjustment? Tan.x -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul stenquist Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2010 11:17 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5 here, high iso samples Thanks. I'll take a look. Paul On Nov 2, 2010, at 8:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote: That's pretty impressive! But my K7 has only 2200 exposures on it, so I'm trying not to be =too= impressed! Are you acquainted with the moire-based, live-view-employing focus adjustment technique? It made me stop dreading focus adjustment. http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/cameras/1ds3_af_micoa djustment.html Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Tue, 11/2/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: K-5 here, high iso samples To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 5:17 PM My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 --PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The K20, K7 and K=t have a function which allows you to dial in the autofocus for each of your lenses, using plus and minus scales to correct for front or rear focus. Most camera/lens combinations aren't perfect matches right out of the bos. While other methods have been noted here, I generally use a scale printed on 13 x 19 paper. I place it on the floor. Then I mount the camera on a tripod and aim it at the center of the scale on a 45 degree angle. I shoot a frame with the lens wide open, convert it and check it on my monitor. if the line in front of the center target is sharper than the center, I know the lens is front focusing. If a line to the rear of the center is sharper than the center, I know the lens is rear focusing. Then I adjust the camera and repeat the test. It's a big effing pain in the ass, but worth the effort. Paul On Nov 2, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Tanya Love - personal email wrote: Erm, at the risk of sounding like a very unprofessional, professional, what is focus adjustment? Tan.x -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul stenquist Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2010 11:17 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5 here, high iso samples Thanks. I'll take a look. Paul On Nov 2, 2010, at 8:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote: That's pretty impressive! But my K7 has only 2200 exposures on it, so I'm trying not to be =too= impressed! Are you acquainted with the moire-based, live-view-employing focus adjustment technique? It made me stop dreading focus adjustment. http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/cameras/1ds3_af_micoa djustment.html Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Tue, 11/2/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: K-5 here, high iso samples To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 5:17 PM My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 --PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 here, high iso samples
That should read The K20, K7 and K-5 have a function... On Nov 2, 2010, at 10:48 PM, paul stenquist wrote: The K20, K7 and K=t have a function which allows you to dial in the autofocus for each of your lenses, using plus and minus scales to correct for front or rear focus. Most camera/lens combinations aren't perfect matches right out of the bos. While other methods have been noted here, I generally use a scale printed on 13 x 19 paper. I place it on the floor. Then I mount the camera on a tripod and aim it at the center of the scale on a 45 degree angle. I shoot a frame with the lens wide open, convert it and check it on my monitor. if the line in front of the center target is sharper than the center, I know the lens is front focusing. If a line to the rear of the center is sharper than the center, I know the lens is rear focusing. Then I adjust the camera and repeat the test. It's a big effing pain in the ass, but worth the effort. Paul On Nov 2, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Tanya Love - personal email wrote: Erm, at the risk of sounding like a very unprofessional, professional, what is focus adjustment? Tan.x -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul stenquist Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2010 11:17 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5 here, high iso samples Thanks. I'll take a look. Paul On Nov 2, 2010, at 8:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote: That's pretty impressive! But my K7 has only 2200 exposures on it, so I'm trying not to be =too= impressed! Are you acquainted with the moire-based, live-view-employing focus adjustment technique? It made me stop dreading focus adjustment. http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/cameras/1ds3_af_micoa djustment.html Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Tue, 11/2/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: K-5 here, high iso samples To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 5:17 PM My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 --PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 here, high iso samples
So, Paul, I suppose you're the second one on the list after William Robb, who got this camera. Or at least if my memory does not fail me, you are. Congratulations. Good pictures. Meanwhile it seems I will be buying Topaz Denoise as it does wonders to my shoot-in-the-dark-and-underexpose-with-high-ISO images... It is good to know that technology is advancing. Boris On 11/2/2010 11:17 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot a few pics at ISO 6400 and 12800, just for grins. I converted them from RAW with the default ACR settings. No additional sharpening. I did increase the exposure a bit on the coke sign, since the largely white background let it slightly under. Have yet to check exposure for any necessary standard comp setting, but it looks pretty close. I also have to check autofocus calibration for all my lenses. I hate that job, but consider it a necessity with any new camera. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, ere are a few pics. All are with the DA* 16-50. This is ISO 6400, f4, 1/125th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890890 100% drop of same frame: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890891 This frame is ISO 12,800, f4 1/50th. The camera focused in my nearly dark basement: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11890892 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
