Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-19 Thread Bill

On 18/11/2013 10:44 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Lightroom 5.2 handles K-3 filees without any glitches,
but it does seem to take just a little longer importing the DNG's
than those of the K-5.


The files are something like 50% bigger.

bill


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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-19 Thread Stan Halpin

On Nov 18, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 18/11/2013 8:02 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 
 Bill, I HAVE one of these cameras. :-D
 
 When I Import to Lr, the preview thumbnail grid shows generic DNG
 icons instead of the images, so I figured it wasn't about to work and
 I didn't want to hit OK than have to spend 30 minutes undoing the
 damage that usually ensues.
 
 I'l be brave and go for it.
 
 
 Ick. I hope I haven't steered you wrong.
 
 Nope, worked fine. Thanks!
 
 So, are you seeing image previews in Lr's Import dialogue then? Maybe
 I've botched some camera setting, though I can't imagine which.
 
 So far, my quick impression of the K-3: fantastic!
 My in-depth impression: fan-fucking-tastic!
 
 Tomorrow's going to be an intense day.
 

Bruce, as you've probably figured by now, it is likely just a file size issue. 
If I am patient enough, long enough, the usual LR import preview thumbnails 
begin to show up on the screen. If there are more than a few images it can take 
a very long time. I have been assuming this is a computer issue and have been 
biding my time until I can buy a newer faster computer with much more memory. 
Given how many other manufacturers are selling 24mb and larger cameras, LR must 
be able to handle the files...

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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-19 Thread Bill

On 19/11/2013 7:52 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:



Bruce, as you've probably figured by now, it is likely just a file size issue.
If I am patient enough, long enough, the usual LR import preview 
thumbnails begin to show up on the screen.

If there are more than a few images it can take a very long time.
I have been assuming this is a computer issue and have been biding my 
time until I can buy a newer faster computer with much more memory.
Given how many other manufacturers are selling 24mb and larger cameras, 
LR must be able to handle the files...


stan


I built the machine I am running right now earlier this year. While I 
didn't get stoopid about specifications, I did do a very well specc'ed 
build. A higher than mid range  Gigabyte board with an Intel I7-3770K 
CPU, which was pushed at me as a very nice, very fast chip that would 
handle apps like Photoshop with alacrity. I combined this with 16GB of 
fast RAM and had two SSD hard drives installed, one being drive C, the 
other dedicated to swap files. Win7 64 was the OS I chose to run, and I 
have found it to be very stable and reliable as well.
The K3 DNG files are 30mb or more, and open up to in excess of 130mb. 
This is a lot of data for a computer to throughput, and for me has been 
the cause of one of the more major expenses when I upgrade a camera. I 
have either massively upgraded or bought a new computer practically 
every time I have bought a new camera.
I am hoping that the rumoured full frame camera that is supposed to 
appear next year doesn't cause this machine to kaak. The 645D DNGs are 
around 75mb, and 225mb opened, and they do slow this machine down 
noticably, though the K3 files are not terribly hard for it to handle.


Trying to open one of the K3 files on my isdD era laptop last night was 
quite funny. While they opened just fine, it took a couple of minutes 
for the machine to chew through them.


bill


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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 18/11/2013 10:44 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Lightroom 5.2 handles K-3 filees without any glitches,
 but it does seem to take just a little longer importing the DNG's
 than those of the K-5.


 The files are something like 50% bigger.

So am I

Dave


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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-19 Thread Bill

On 19/11/2013 6:58 PM, David J Brooks wrote:





The files are something like 50% bigger.


So am I


Yer just a great big, cute Teddy Bear.

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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill wrote:

On 19/11/2013 6:58 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 The files are something like 50% bigger.

 So am I

Yer just a great big, cute Teddy Bear.

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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-19 Thread Bill

On 19/11/2013 8:21 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Bill wrote:


On 19/11/2013 6:58 PM, David J Brooks wrote:



The files are something like 50% bigger.


So am I


Yer just a great big, cute Teddy Bear.


Gallery GFM 2007:
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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-19 Thread Kenneth Waller
I can only grin and bare it!


-Original Message-
From: Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

On 19/11/2013 8:21 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Bill wrote:

 On 19/11/2013 6:58 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 The files are something like 50% bigger.

 So am I

 Yer just a great big, cute Teddy Bear.

 Gallery GFM 2007:
 http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/gfm2007/museumbear.html



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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-18 Thread Bill

On 18/11/2013 7:14 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Initial Googling inconclusive: does Lightroom 4.4 support the DNG RAWs
from a K-3?

For that matter does Lr 5.x support K-3 DNGs?

If the answer is no to both of the above, what are K-3 owners doing
presently to import into Lightroom?



Heck, I can open K3 DNGs with Photoshop 7 (pre CS) if I want to.
That's the beauty of DNG.
Yes, the DNGs work in Lightroom, and Camera RAW and work quite nicely. 
All the pictures I've shown so far from my K3 have been imported in 
Lightroom and either tweaked there or opened in Camera RAW.

You NEED one of these cameras Bruce.

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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't use Lightroom but PS6 and Bridge have no problem. As one would expect 
since DNG is a universal format.

Paul via phone

 On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Initial Googling inconclusive: does Lightroom 4.4 support the DNG RAWs
 from a K-3?
 
 For that matter does Lr 5.x support K-3 DNGs?
 
 If the answer is no to both of the above, what are K-3 owners doing
 presently to import into Lightroom?
 
 Thanks gang!
 
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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-18 Thread David Parsons
Considering that LR5 is the active version, it's unlikely that Adobe
will update any 4.x version with new RAW format information.

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Initial Googling inconclusive: does Lightroom 4.4 support the DNG RAWs
 from a K-3?

 For that matter does Lr 5.x support K-3 DNGs?

 If the answer is no to both of the above, what are K-3 owners doing
 presently to import into Lightroom?

 Thanks gang!

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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-18 Thread Bill

On 18/11/2013 7:28 PM, David Parsons wrote:

Considering that LR5 is the active version, it's unlikely that Adobe
will update any 4.x version with new RAW format information.


It doesn't need new RAW information to work with DNGs.
Any Adobe RAW converter will open DNG files, no matter what the age.

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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
All versions of Lightroom will import and work with K-3 DNG files. 
Only Lr 5.3RC can open the PEF files and has a camera calibration profile for 
the K-3. 

Godfrey


 On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 does Lightroom 4.4 support the DNG RAWs
 from a K-3?
 
 For that matter does Lr 5.x support K-3 DNGs?

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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
All versions of Lightroom will import and work with K-3 DNG files. 
Only Lr 5.3RC can open the PEF files and has a camera calibration profile for 
the K-3. 

Godfrey


 On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 does Lightroom 4.4 support the DNG RAWs
 from a K-3?
 
 For that matter does Lr 5.x support K-3 DNGs?

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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-18 Thread Bruce Walker
Bill, I HAVE one of these cameras. :-D

When I Import to Lr, the preview thumbnail grid shows generic DNG
icons instead of the images, so I figured it wasn't about to work and
I didn't want to hit OK than have to spend 30 minutes undoing the
damage that usually ensues.

I'l be brave and go for it.


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 18/11/2013 7:14 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Initial Googling inconclusive: does Lightroom 4.4 support the DNG RAWs
 from a K-3?

 For that matter does Lr 5.x support K-3 DNGs?

 If the answer is no to both of the above, what are K-3 owners doing
 presently to import into Lightroom?


 Heck, I can open K3 DNGs with Photoshop 7 (pre CS) if I want to.
 That's the beauty of DNG.
 Yes, the DNGs work in Lightroom, and Camera RAW and work quite nicely. All
 the pictures I've shown so far from my K3 have been imported in Lightroom
 and either tweaked there or opened in Camera RAW.
 You NEED one of these cameras Bruce.

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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-18 Thread Bill

On 18/11/2013 8:02 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Bill, I HAVE one of these cameras. :-D

When I Import to Lr, the preview thumbnail grid shows generic DNG
icons instead of the images, so I figured it wasn't about to work and
I didn't want to hit OK than have to spend 30 minutes undoing the
damage that usually ensues.

I'l be brave and go for it.


Ick. I hope I haven't steered you wrong.

bill


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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-18 Thread Bill

On 18/11/2013 8:02 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Bill, I HAVE one of these cameras. :-D

When I Import to Lr, the preview thumbnail grid shows generic DNG
icons instead of the images, so I figured it wasn't about to work and
I didn't want to hit OK than have to spend 30 minutes undoing the
damage that usually ensues.

I'l be brave and go for it.



OK, I just fired up my old laptop and tried to open a K-3 DNG file in 
Photoshop CS3 running camera RAW 4.6. Other than being slow as frozen 
mud (I used to think this was a pretty hot little computer), it opened 
with no burps.


bill


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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-18 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 18/11/2013 8:02 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Bill, I HAVE one of these cameras. :-D

 When I Import to Lr, the preview thumbnail grid shows generic DNG
 icons instead of the images, so I figured it wasn't about to work and
 I didn't want to hit OK than have to spend 30 minutes undoing the
 damage that usually ensues.

 I'l be brave and go for it.


 Ick. I hope I haven't steered you wrong.

Nope, worked fine. Thanks!

So, are you seeing image previews in Lr's Import dialogue then? Maybe
I've botched some camera setting, though I can't imagine which.

So far, my quick impression of the K-3: fantastic!
My in-depth impression: fan-fucking-tastic!

Tomorrow's going to be an intense day.

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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-18 Thread Bill

On 18/11/2013 8:35 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:



So, are you seeing image previews in Lr's Import dialogue then? Maybe
I've botched some camera setting, though I can't imagine which.
Yeah. I'm also on LR 4.4. For some reason I thought I had a newer 
version. I should check and see if I downloaded a newer version and 
forgot to install it. That would be just the sort of thing I would do.




So far, my quick impression of the K-3: fantastic!
My in-depth impression: fan-fucking-tastic!

Tomorrow's going to be an intense day.


Enjoy.

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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Lightroom 5.2 handles K-3 filees without any glitches,
but it does seem to take just a little longer importing the DNG's
than those of the K-5.
And I really like LR5.2.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 18/11/2013 8:35 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


 So, are you seeing image previews in Lr's Import dialogue then? Maybe
 I've botched some camera setting, though I can't imagine which.

 Yeah. I'm also on LR 4.4. For some reason I thought I had a newer version. I
 should check and see if I downloaded a newer version and forgot to install
 it. That would be just the sort of thing I would do.



 So far, my quick impression of the K-3: fantastic!
 My in-depth impression: fan-fucking-tastic!

 Tomorrow's going to be an intense day.

 Enjoy.

 bill


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