Re: MX review; WAS: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S

2002-11-30 Thread Paul Ewins
Well naturally enough this is one of the black ones, which is why I have
persevered.

Paul

. No other MX I have owned
 over the years (3) have had this. In the end I sold it (it was a silver
 top) in favour of a black beauty

 Cotty





Re: MX review; WAS: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S

2002-11-29 Thread Alan Chan
I explained that I owned 4 other MXs and *none* of them displayed the same 
trait but the service man was unmoved.

They charged me AU$180 and fixed nothing. When I tried to explain, the old 
guy was unmoved too. Well, actually he did, but he said I must did 
something to my MX. All I can say is that the service department of C.R. 
Kennedy is hopeless. ABSOLUTELY HOPELESS!!! Glad I don't live in Australia 
anymore or I would be using anything but Pentax now.

regards,
Alan Chan

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Re: MX review

2002-11-29 Thread Pat White
My MX also developed this problem.  Even with the shutter lock on, any
pressure on the shutter button would turn on the meter.  However, when I
took it in for a CLA and asked to have this fixed, the problem was solved
and it never returned.  It might have been the shutter lock itself, but it
was ten years ago, so I'm not perfectly sure.

As for the rest of the camera, I liked it very much, and it's still in my
family.  At the TOPDML get-together last spring, I was able to handle Frank
Theriault's MX, and it brought back pleasant memories.  It's a compact,
well-made camera that feels good in your hand.

Pat White





Re: MX review

2002-11-29 Thread Keith Whaley
Dear Mrs. Reed,

I thought the MX review was very interesting too, but what surprises
me ~ in light of what the reviewer said about the KX ~ is that you HAD
a KX and didn't like it!
After reading Lon Williamson's review, I thought I just might want to
have one! Now I wonder. What did I miss?
Why don't/didn't you like the KX?
I seem to recall he said it was like a pre-LX design...that sounded
pretty interesting to me.

I do have an MX body, and I just got it a few days ago, but haven't
had time to really wring it out.
I am really looking forward to road-testing it, however.

Your thoughts on the KX?

keith whaley

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm hoping to acquire an MX in the near future, so the review was interesting
 and timely to me. I used to have a KX for a while and didn't like it; my
 favourite shooters just now are my LX and ZX-5n.
 While I wait, does anyone want to share his or her thoughts on LX vs.
 MX?




Re: MX review

2002-11-29 Thread Alan Chan
I'm hoping to acquire an MX in the near future, so the review was 
interesting
and timely to me. I used to have a KX for a while and didn't like it; my
favourite shooters just now are my LX and ZX-5n.
While I wait, does anyone want to share his or her thoughts on LX vs.
MX?

Despite the fact that both were marketed as professional system cameras, 
they are nothing alike other than interchangable screens.

Compared to the LX, the MX:
- has much quieter shutter/mirror
- is smaller (great for small lenses, could be front heavy for certain 
lenses)
- has higher viewfinder magnification (the highest, same as ME Super)
- doesn't have interchangable finder
- is fully mechanical, obviousely
- has shorter mirror
- is more reliable (imho)
- is easier to service
- has at least 2 versions afaik (slightly different top, memo holder, 
metering ICs, and some other minor differences inside)
- ???

regards,
Alan Chan

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Re: MX review

2002-11-29 Thread Thibault GROUAS
I also want to add here that the MX is far more easier to find on the 2nd
hand market and goes for much lower prices (usually the third of the LX
price), especially if you add the cost of a complete CLA for the LX if you
want it to be reliable.

This and the fact that it is much smaller, lighter and quieter make it a far
better choice, IMHO, when you take it with you to weird and unknown places
in the world, especially in Africa, South America, India...

(unless you can afford a bodyguard of course, then the LX maybe is a better
choice)

The noise of the mirror has always been a big concern for me since I'am
always trying to capture candid people expressions anywhere, and this is the
concern that makes me wonder regularly of old M Leicas. But anyway I don't
have enough money now for this kind of tools.

As an MX user, one of the things I like most about this little camera is the
big uncluttered viewfinder, especially bright with an LX2000 screen. I also
use a K1000 and an MZ-5n sometimes but it is always a shock for me when I
have to put my eye through the viewfinder after some MX photo-sessions. It's
like movie theater versus home television.

Btw, the MX is still my favourite camera, and i take it with me whenever I
need a reliable camera.

Though, after reading Lon Williamson's MX/KX comparison, I must say i'll
maybe try a KX one day, a camera I have absolutely no experience with.
Thanks for the nice review Lon.

Just some personal thoughts.

Thibault Grouas.


« Alan Chan » [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :

 Despite the fact that both were marketed as professional system cameras,
 they are nothing alike other than interchangable screens.
 
 Compared to the LX, the MX:
 - has much quieter shutter/mirror
 - is smaller (great for small lenses, could be front heavy for certain
 lenses)
 - has higher viewfinder magnification (the highest, same as ME Super)
 - doesn't have interchangable finder
 - is fully mechanical, obviousely
 - has shorter mirror
 - is more reliable (imho)
 - is easier to service
 - has at least 2 versions afaik (slightly different top, memo holder,
 metering ICs, and some other minor differences inside)
 - ???




Re: MX review

2002-11-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:

Just on that subject, 1 of my MXs had a problem draining batteries. I took
it to the local Pentax importer (CR Kennedy) and asked for it to be fixed.
$130 (US$70) later they handed it back and pronounced it fixed. I went on
holidays and when I pulled the camera out of the bag the brand new battery
was dead. After replacing the battery and fidling around a bit I found that
even with the meter lock in place, a bit more pressure than normal would
turn the meter on. I figure that it must have something heavy (probably 300
Tak in hard case) sitting on the soft case, pushing on the shutter release.
I took it home and compared it to my other MXs, and none of them would do
that, so I figured it was a fault, probably just  slightly out of alignment.
When I took it back to Kennedy's they said that it was normal, and that of
course if I applied a lot more pressure the meter would go on. I explained
that I owned 4 other MXs and *none* of them displayed the same trait but the
service man was unmoved.
Net result is that I now take the batteries out of the MXs when travelling
or storing and I have taken my LX elsewhere to be repaired and will probably
take the 6x7 there as well.

I used to own a MX that has this problem. It was definately a fault - in 
no way should the meter be activated while the shutter release lock is 
engaged, no matter how much pressure is applied. No other MX I have owned 
over the years (3) have had this. In the end I sold it (it was a silver 
top) in favour of a black beauty

This is a very common problem with the MX and one that's extraordinarily
easy to repair. It's an adjustment that can be done in a matter of minutes
and only requires removing the bottom plate (3 screws).

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com




Re: MX review

2002-11-29 Thread ernreed2
Keith Whaley posted:
 
 I thought the MX review was very interesting too, but what surprises
 me ~ in light of what the reviewer said about the KX ~ is that you HAD
 a KX and didn't like it!
 After reading Lon Williamson's review, I thought I just might want to
 have one! Now I wonder. What did I miss?
 Why don't/didn't you like the KX?
 I seem to recall he said it was like a pre-LX design...that sounded
 pretty interesting to me.
 
 I do have an MX body, and I just got it a few days ago, but haven't
 had time to really wring it out.
 I am really looking forward to road-testing it, however.
 
 Your thoughts on the KX?

In the first place, when I bought the KX it had been several years since I'd 
last owned a K1000 and my Pentax bodies since then had all been smaller. Found 
I wasn't that comfortable going back to the big bodies. Secondly, although I 
understand this doesn't bother many people, I found that having to keep the 
winding lever in a stand-off position to use the meter was a distraction -- I'd 
never owned a camera with that requirement before.
It wasn't that there was anything *wrong* with the camera; just one of those 
subtle handling not-quite-me issues that sometimes present themselves and 
make the difference between a camera you happily reach for and use, and the one 
on the shelf you reach past to get to the one you like using. So I bought the 
LX and as soon as I'd established that the LX was working properly, sold the KX 
to partially offset the investment in the
LX.




Re: MX review

2002-11-29 Thread Keith Whaley
Comments within...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Keith Whaley posted:
 
  I thought the MX review was very interesting too, but what surprises
  me ~ in light of what the reviewer said about the KX ~ is that you HAD
  a KX and didn't like it!
  After reading Lon Williamson's review, I thought I just might want to
  have one! Now I wonder. What did I miss?
  Why don't/didn't you like the KX?
  I seem to recall he said it was like a pre-LX design...that sounded
  pretty interesting to me.
 
  I do have an MX body, and I just got it a few days ago, but haven't
  had time to really wring it out.
  I am really looking forward to road-testing it, however.
 
  Your thoughts on the KX?
 
 In the first place, when I bought the KX it had been several years since I'd
 last owned a K1000 and my Pentax bodies since then had all been smaller. Found
 I wasn't that comfortable going back to the big bodies. 

I went from an Olympus OM-1 to an OM-2, to a Pentax MG, to a Spotmatic
F, to an MX.
Even in that sequence, the MX is SMALL...
I really like the small size of the MX!

 Secondly, although I
 understand this doesn't bother many people, I found that having to keep the
 winding lever in a stand-off position to use the meter was a distraction -- I'd
 never owned a camera with that requirement before.

Nor I, but I don't yet have enough time behind the shutter with my MX
to know...

 It wasn't that there was anything *wrong* with the camera; just one of those
 subtle handling not-quite-me issues that sometimes present themselves and
 make the difference between a camera you happily reach for and use, and the one
 on the shelf you reach past to get to the one you like using. So I bought the
 LX and as soon as I'd established that the LX was working properly, sold the KX
 to partially offset the investment in the LX.

I'm familiar with that!  grin
Thanks for your comments.


keith whaley