Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
Hi, Jens, Those pictures look really nice! (both the pictures of the camera and taken by the camera). I really should take some more pictures with my arsenal of cameras so that I don't feel guilty of gluttony. Every time I look at the cameras, I can't help but group the Aires, Beauty Lightomatic, Graflex Century 35NE (made by Kowa), and Walz Envoy 35RF together. They look so similar to me. Your 35III-A, being a fixed lens camera, is even closer to the other three than the 35V. I guess their odd brand status adds to the sense of resemblence. No, I'm not tempting you to get the other three at all:-) The Aires is more solid than the others, including the feel of the film advance lever. I don't know about their respective lens performance (I shall get them commissioned to take some pictures), but I heard words that the Kominar lens on the Walz Envoy is quite nice. Yefei I have posted a few shots made with the Aires 35-III: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594454452626/show/ Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
Thanks, Bob so it seems :-) Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Bob Shell Sendt: 7. januar 2007 17:12 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder On Jan 7, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: I have posted a few shots made with the Aires 35-III: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594454452626/show/ Regards Jens Bladt Nice. Obviously my memory that the lens was good was correct. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 01/06/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 01/08/2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
Hello Yefei Thanks for responding. I didn't know that the Aires 35-IIIs had changeble lenses until now. I really enjoy using a rangefinder with manual settings. It's very quiet and can be used at concerts, in the theatre etc. without attracting the same amount of attention, that an SLR camera would. Most people don't even notice that I am in fact taking pictures. I guess the Aires is a poor mans Leica :-) Aries in fact died, I believe, because they didn't offer an SLR in time. I wonder why Pentax never made a rangefinder with changeable lenses ? Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Yefei He Sendt: 8. januar 2007 20:09 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder Hi, Jens, Those pictures look really nice! (both the pictures of the camera and taken by the camera). I really should take some more pictures with my arsenal of cameras so that I don't feel guilty of gluttony. Every time I look at the cameras, I can't help but group the Aires, Beauty Lightomatic, Graflex Century 35NE (made by Kowa), and Walz Envoy 35RF together. They look so similar to me. Your 35III-A, being a fixed lens camera, is even closer to the other three than the 35V. I guess their odd brand status adds to the sense of resemblence. No, I'm not tempting you to get the other three at all:-) The Aires is more solid than the others, including the feel of the film advance lever. I don't know about their respective lens performance (I shall get them commissioned to take some pictures), but I heard words that the Kominar lens on the Walz Envoy is quite nice. Yefei I have posted a few shots made with the Aires 35-III: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594454452626/show/ Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 01/08/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 01/08/2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
I have posted a few shots made with the Aires 35-III: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594454452626/show/ Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Jens Bladt Sendt: 6. januar 2007 15:42 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder It must have been nice to have the father teaching you darkroom technoques, Bob :-) I didn't start until I got my first SLR in 1973. The Viscount (french for count or similar) is quite nice - a bit newer (1959-60) than the 35-series (1954) - according to Massimo Bertacchi. I am looking for a 35-V with a built.in meter and interchangeable leaf shutter lenses. I think four Coral lenses were made for this:1:3.5 /100mm, a 1:3.2/ 35mm and two 45mm lenses - 1:1.9 and 1:1.5. The V model was introduced in 1958 - almost 50 yeas ago. I guess the company went belly up in the early sixties. Unfortunately. The started making SLRs too late, I guess. I will be developing my first Aires film (Ilford FP4) shortly and hopefully be able to post som scans too :-) Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Bob Shell Sendt: 5. januar 2007 00:15 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: Thanks, Bob. I see. Mine has probably not seen much use. It still works perfectly after more than 50 years. Unfortunately there's no accumulating frame counter, so I can't check :-) Some of my very first photos were taken with an Aires Viscount rangefinder camera that my dad had when I was in my early teens. Once I learned to use the rangefinder I was snapping away at everything. He had a darkroom in our basement, so I learned to develop and print. I must have been 12 or 13 when I processed my first roll of film and made some prints. Fixer got in my veins that day and I was hooked for life. My dad moved on to Exakta and Leica, and he would occasionally let me use one of them. I don't know what became of his old Aires. I wish I had it today. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.6/617 - Release Date: 01/05/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.6/617 - Release Date: 01/05/2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.6/617 - Release Date: 01/05/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 01/06/2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
On Jan 7, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: I have posted a few shots made with the Aires 35-III: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594454452626/show/ Regards Jens Bladt Nice. Obviously my memory that the lens was good was correct. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
It must have been nice to have the father teaching you darkroom technoques, Bob :-) I didn't start until I got my first SLR in 1973. The Viscount (french for count or similar) is quite nice - a bit newer (1959-60) than the 35-series (1954) - according to Massimo Bertacchi. I am looking for a 35-V with a built.in meter and interchangeable leaf shutter lenses. I think four Coral lenses were made for this:1:3.5 /100mm, a 1:3.2/ 35mm and two 45mm lenses - 1:1.9 and 1:1.5. The V model was introduced in 1958 - almost 50 yeas ago. I guess the company went belly up in the early sixties. Unfortunately. The started making SLRs too late, I guess. I will be developing my first Aires film (Ilford FP4) shortly and hopefully be able to post som scans too :-) Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Bob Shell Sendt: 5. januar 2007 00:15 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: Thanks, Bob. I see. Mine has probably not seen much use. It still works perfectly after more than 50 years. Unfortunately there's no accumulating frame counter, so I can't check :-) Some of my very first photos were taken with an Aires Viscount rangefinder camera that my dad had when I was in my early teens. Once I learned to use the rangefinder I was snapping away at everything. He had a darkroom in our basement, so I learned to develop and print. I must have been 12 or 13 when I processed my first roll of film and made some prints. Fixer got in my veins that day and I was hooked for life. My dad moved on to Exakta and Leica, and he would occasionally let me use one of them. I don't know what became of his old Aires. I wish I had it today. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.6/617 - Release Date: 01/05/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.6/617 - Release Date: 01/05/2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
Thanks, Bob. I see. Mine has probably not seen much use. It still works perfectly after more than 50 years. Unfortunately there's no accumulating frame counter, so I can't check :-) Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Bob Shell Sendt: 4. januar 2007 03:56 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder On Jan 3, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: Thanks, Bob. So, this camera was not the reason for Seiko's fame and success? Seiko only made the shutter. Lots of Japanese cameras of that era used the Seikosha -MX shutter module. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 01/02/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 01/04/2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: Thanks, Bob. I see. Mine has probably not seen much use. It still works perfectly after more than 50 years. Unfortunately there's no accumulating frame counter, so I can't check :-) Some of my very first photos were taken with an Aires Viscount rangefinder camera that my dad had when I was in my early teens. Once I learned to use the rangefinder I was snapping away at everything. He had a darkroom in our basement, so I learned to develop and print. I must have been 12 or 13 when I processed my first roll of film and made some prints. Fixer got in my veins that day and I was hooked for life. My dad moved on to Exakta and Leica, and he would occasionally let me use one of them. I don't know what became of his old Aires. I wish I had it today. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
On Jan 2, 2007, at 6:08 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: Any comments on these Japanese (Seiko) cameras? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594454452626/ Regards Good lenses, mediocre mechanically. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
Wow, Yefei - and I thought that I had (too) many cameras :-) Anyway - I don't have many cameras, that I don't use from time to time. You are right - it's rather big, compared to cameras like the Kodak Retinette, some Agfas etc. But size is not much of an issue to me, since I dont' carry a camera while doing other things (except maybe for a Minox GL, Olympus XA or Rollei 35 XF). Mostlly I only photograph when I'm out to photograph - and then I don't care if it weighs 200 grams or 2000 grams :-) What I like about it is the seemingly nice build quality and feel. Everything works well, although it's the same age as me :-) What I don't like is that the letters and figures are very hard to read off the shiny surfaces. I have mounted a small Sekonic Micro Clip-on meter in the flash shoe. It seems to work fine. The only reason I don't carry it with me all the time is that it doesn't have a built-in flash. So, the Olympus XA seem to have taken that place :-) I am still waiting to see my first film Aires film :-) Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Yefei He Sendt: 3. januar 2007 01:09 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: RE: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder Jens, I have an Aires 35 IIIs like Ralf's. I managed to get the faster 45/1.5, the 90 and the 35 lenses from separate sources. I feel it's the most solidly built Japanese leaf-shutter rangefinder camera I have encountered. It is also very big, especially compared to German ones. It's a shame I haven't used it to take a single photo since I had it more than a year ago. Mine has a misaligned rangefinder and I really should have it fixed and use it. I guess when one has various cameras from 30 different brands that have this and that problems, they have to wait in queue to get fixed:-) In my case, Diax, Akarex, Agfa, Regula, Voigtlaender, Pentacon, Icarex, Nikon, Ricoh, Olympus, Konica, Topcon, had their priorities over the poor Aires. But it will be in the line with my Beauty, Graflex, Walz, Rolleiflex, Exakta, Pentax, Miranda, Edixa, Argus, Balda cameras that are also patiently waiting for a check up. On topic content -- my Spotmatic SPII is also on sick leave and in the queue:-) Yefei Message: 12 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:08:57 +0100 From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Any comments on these Japanese (Seiko) cameras? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594454452626/ Regards Jens Bladt New Year Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 01/02/2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 01/02/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 01/02/2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
Thanks, Bob. So, this camera was not the reason for Seiko's fame and success? Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Bob Shell Sendt: 3. januar 2007 14:24 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder On Jan 2, 2007, at 6:08 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: Any comments on these Japanese (Seiko) cameras? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594454452626/ Regards Good lenses, mediocre mechanically. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 01/02/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 01/02/2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
On Jan 3, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: Thanks, Bob. So, this camera was not the reason for Seiko's fame and success? Seiko only made the shutter. Lots of Japanese cameras of that era used the Seikosha -MX shutter module. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any comments on these Japanese (Seiko) cameras? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594454452626/ I had a later model with a built-in meter (a 3S if memory serves), some 20 years ago, and I'm still kicking myself for discarding it when it eventually broke. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
On 1/02/07 6:08 PM, Jens Bladt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any comments on these Japanese (Seiko) cameras? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594454452626/ http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Aires Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
Jens, I have an Aires 35 IIIs like Ralf's. I managed to get the faster 45/1.5, the 90 and the 35 lenses from separate sources. I feel it's the most solidly built Japanese leaf-shutter rangefinder camera I have encountered. It is also very big, especially compared to German ones. It's a shame I haven't used it to take a single photo since I had it more than a year ago. Mine has a misaligned rangefinder and I really should have it fixed and use it. I guess when one has various cameras from 30 different brands that have this and that problems, they have to wait in queue to get fixed:-) In my case, Diax, Akarex, Agfa, Regula, Voigtlaender, Pentacon, Icarex, Nikon, Ricoh, Olympus, Konica, Topcon, had their priorities over the poor Aires. But it will be in the line with my Beauty, Graflex, Walz, Rolleiflex, Exakta, Pentax, Miranda, Edixa, Argus, Balda cameras that are also patiently waiting for a check up. On topic content -- my Spotmatic SPII is also on sick leave and in the queue:-) Yefei Message: 12 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:08:57 +0100 From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Any comments on these Japanese (Seiko) cameras? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594454452626/ Regards Jens Bladt New Year Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 01/02/2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
