Re: OT: Figuring out this Apple stuff
Hi Philip: we're deep in the Apple Ecosystem and enjoying it, though I admit it took me a bit to make the adjustments--both hardware and software, but I'm a stronger user now, and when I have to use Windows I absolutely hate it. Have fun with your new system. It may be a little frustrating at first as you make the transitition, but hang in there. It's really worth it. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Philip Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: The auto time out is in System Preferences (in the applications folder) and is under Energy Saver Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au On 12/03/2014 2:21 pm, John wrote: In case anyone is actually interested in my baptism by fire ... Finally finished reading the instruction books, hooked everything together turned it on. Mostly semi-intuitive setting it up. There's a few things I need to figure out yet. Had to log into the App Store which required me to update my billing information. No big problem there. It tells me I'm currently at OS X 10.8.3. It's currently downloading OS X Mavericks (it said free update?). Is that going to fix that goto fail bug? Or am I going to have to get a later version? I also got a bunch of emails from Apple telling me my Apple ID is being used with a new computer that it's never been associated with before, but since it's notifying me of things I just did a few minutes before to get it up running, it's not that worrisome ... Except, it says I've used my Apple ID to log into Facetime iMessage. I have only the vaguest idea what those are (something like Skype AOL Instant Messenger??). I'll have to figure out where to turn them off in a bit. I already turned off bluetooth Wi-Fi. I don't use either of those on my home network. The other thing I need to find is how to set the auto-time-out so I don't have to hover over it and move the mouse every few minutes to prevent it from going to sleep while I'm doing other things. Right now it looks like it's set at about 5 minutes. It's gone down twice in just the time it's taken me to write this. Tomorrow night I start looking at getting the recording software installed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Figuring out this Apple stuff
On 3/12/2014 10:35 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2014-03-12 18:00 John wrote I downloaded OS X 10.9.2 and made the Unibeast 8GB USB backup. i know about tonymac86, but i had to learn about Unibeast; it sounds like you want to preserve the installer for use on a non-Apple machine (hackintosh); that should be irrelevant to your Mini, but as you've introduced unexplained variables, it's hard to be sure But do I need to use the USB drive to install OS X 10.9.2? you can install it directly; that process will then delete the installer, but you've got a backup, as i understand it, in the Unibeast; otherwise i would suggest you make a simple backup of the installer before running it; unless you have really fast internet service I got errors saying I had to enable Javascript to register. Does Safari not have Javascript? I couldn't find anything useful in the help, but that may be because I didn't know where to look. Safari has JavaScript, and normally it's on, so i suspect you somehow turned it off; the tonymac86 registration page uses JavaScript for a captcha - do you see a Image Verification section without an image - that would explain it i'd just turn JavaScript back on; preferences for most applications are in the application menu, which is on the left next to the Apple menu, under the application name; command-comma is the keyboard shortcut to preferences; if that doesn't work, perhaps your hosts file is blocking some necessary JS? I don't know how I would have turned it off. I didn't change any preferences in Safari. I just opened it typed tonymacx86 in the default search bar The only things I've changed so far are the sleep time out which way the scroll wheel on the mouse works (so it would scroll the same way I'm used to on Windoze). I haven't installed a hosts file on the Mac mini yet. Nor an anti-virus program. Figured I'd take care of the necessary Apple updates first. I could see the captcha when I clicked the get a new challenge button it changed the captcha. So JavaScript must have been working. Don't know why the error then, but I found a work around. I've made a note to look at Safari's preferences. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Figuring out this Apple stuff
On 3/12/2014 10:26 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2014-03-12 18:11 Bruce Walker wrote If you can live with Safari's voracious appetite for RAM there's no reason to install another browser. I can't though, so I use Chrome instead. Otherwise, I like Safari and would use it for everything. Safari is my default browser, but i put some of my always-loaded sites in Chrome specifically to keep the memory usage down; the other reason i use Chrome is i don't install a system-wide Flash plugin; i use Chrome's built-in, sandboxed version of Flash (set to not auto-play) when needed; i also have JavaScript Blocker installed in Safari, and the net effect is a lot of peace and quiet i have heard that Flash for Safari is sandboxed as of OS X 10.9 (i'm on 10.7), but even if i were running 10.9, i'd still appreciate how Youtube (usually) switches to HTML5 playback when Flash is missing My plan for the Mac mini is to minimize the amount of internet I do on it. I have this computer for internet. I do know that I'll have to use the internet to download the various music software that came with the recording package. Only one of the programs came on physical media - a USB key. It also requires a different USB key to be plugged in when the program is used. The rest of the software came as printed cards that give the website an authentication key so you can download it. I don't think Safari's voracious appetite will be a problem. I finally moved over to my Windoze internet computer and used it to register with the site and then went back to the Mac mini to log in and download the app that makes the 8GB USB stick boot device. Still not exactly sure what I need the USB stick boot device for, but I've got it if I ever need it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Figuring out this Apple stuff
System Preferences under the Apple menu is your key to all global settings. Within applications, you'll also find Preferences to set under the 2nd menu, next one past the Apple menu. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 11, 2014, at 11:30 PM, Philip Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: The auto time out is in System Preferences (in the applications folder) and is under Energy Saver Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au On 12/03/2014 2:21 pm, John wrote: In case anyone is actually interested in my baptism by fire ... Finally finished reading the instruction books, hooked everything together turned it on. Mostly semi-intuitive setting it up. There's a few things I need to figure out yet. Had to log into the App Store which required me to update my billing information. No big problem there. It tells me I'm currently at OS X 10.8.3. It's currently downloading OS X Mavericks (it said free update?). Is that going to fix that goto fail bug? Or am I going to have to get a later version? I also got a bunch of emails from Apple telling me my Apple ID is being used with a new computer that it's never been associated with before, but since it's notifying me of things I just did a few minutes before to get it up running, it's not that worrisome ... Except, it says I've used my Apple ID to log into Facetime iMessage. I have only the vaguest idea what those are (something like Skype AOL Instant Messenger??). I'll have to figure out where to turn them off in a bit. I already turned off bluetooth Wi-Fi. I don't use either of those on my home network. The other thing I need to find is how to set the auto-time-out so I don't have to hover over it and move the mouse every few minutes to prevent it from going to sleep while I'm doing other things. Right now it looks like it's set at about 5 minutes. It's gone down twice in just the time it's taken me to write this. Tomorrow night I start looking at getting the recording software installed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Figuring out this Apple stuff
on 2014-03-11 21:21 John wrote Had to log into the App Store which required me to update my billing information. No big problem there. It tells me I'm currently at OS X 10.8.3. It's currently downloading OS X Mavericks (it said free update?). yes 10.9 is free, whether as update or fresh install Is that going to fix that goto fail bug? Or am I going to have to get a later version? the goto fail bug is *not* in 10.8.x (which your computer came with); it is in 10.9.0 and 10.9.1, and has been fixed in 10.9.2, which is probably what is downloading I also got a bunch of emails from Apple telling me my Apple ID is being used with a new computer that it's never been associated with before, but since it's notifying me of things I just did a few minutes before to get it up running, it's not that worrisome ... those are messages you hope you never see when you *haven't* just set up a computer Except, it says I've used my Apple ID to log into Facetime iMessage. I have only the vaguest idea what those are (something like Skype AOL Instant Messenger??). I'll have to figure out where to turn them off in a bit. they are built-in; if you don't use them, don't worry about it; FaceTime is like Skype (voice and/or video) and iMessage is like text messaging or IM; on a Mini, FaceTime won't do much unless you add a microphone and/or vid-cam; these messaging tools only call others who have Apple Accounts, on Mac, iPhone or iPad (on the phone it is integrated with the same app that does text messages, and will switch between services automatically) The other thing I need to find is how to set the auto-time-out so I don't have to hover over it and move the mouse every few minutes to prevent it from going to sleep while I'm doing other things. System Preferences Energy Saver; look around because System Preferences has much else that you may want to configure -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Figuring out this Apple stuff
On 3/12/2014 5:01 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2014-03-11 21:21 John wrote Had to log into the App Store which required me to update my billing information. No big problem there. It tells me I'm currently at OS X 10.8.3. It's currently downloading OS X Mavericks (it said free update?). yes 10.9 is free, whether as update or fresh install Is that going to fix that goto fail bug? Or am I going to have to get a later version? the goto fail bug is *not* in 10.8.x (which your computer came with); it is in 10.9.0 and 10.9.1, and has been fixed in 10.9.2, which is probably what is downloading I also got a bunch of emails from Apple telling me my Apple ID is being used with a new computer that it's never been associated with before, but since it's notifying me of things I just did a few minutes before to get it up running, it's not that worrisome ... those are messages you hope you never see when you *haven't* just set up a computer Except, it says I've used my Apple ID to log into Facetime iMessage. I have only the vaguest idea what those are (something like Skype AOL Instant Messenger??). I'll have to figure out where to turn them off in a bit. they are built-in; if you don't use them, don't worry about it; FaceTime is like Skype (voice and/or video) and iMessage is like text messaging or IM; on a Mini, FaceTime won't do much unless you add a microphone and/or vid-cam; these messaging tools only call others who have Apple Accounts, on Mac, iPhone or iPad (on the phone it is integrated with the same app that does text messages, and will switch between services automatically) The other thing I need to find is how to set the auto-time-out so I don't have to hover over it and move the mouse every few minutes to prevent it from going to sleep while I'm doing other things. System Preferences Energy Saver; look around because System Preferences has much else that you may want to configure Thanks to everyone who responded. I got the sleep time thing fixed to my satisfaction. I downloaded OS X 10.9.2 and made the Unibeast 8GB USB backup. But do I need to use the USB drive to install OS X 10.9.2? Or can I install it straight from the download in the Applications folder since I'm only doing the upgrade? I used the Macs at school, but those were locked down pretty tightly, so I don't have any experience with actually setting one up getting it up to speed. When I was trying to register with the site tonymacx86.com where they have all the information about Unibeast making the USB backup, I tried to use Safari to register with the site. I haven't tried to install any other browser on it yet. I got errors saying I had to enable Javascript to register. Does Safari not have Javascript? I couldn't find anything useful in the help, but that may be because I didn't know where to look. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Figuring out this Apple stuff
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:00 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks to everyone who responded. I got the sleep time thing fixed to my satisfaction. I downloaded OS X 10.9.2 and made the Unibeast 8GB USB backup. But do I need to use the USB drive to install OS X 10.9.2? The easiest way to upgrade is to let the Software Update app (under the Apple menu) do it for you. It's going to re-download the entire installer again though. Or can I install it straight from the download in the Applications folder since I'm only doing the upgrade? I don't know if it's safe to install from the downloaded image directly or not, so I won't hazard a guess. You should check the ReadMe's in the same place where you got the update image from. When I was trying to register with the site tonymacx86.com where they have all the information about Unibeast making the USB backup, I tried to use Safari to register with the site. I haven't tried to install any other browser on it yet. I got errors saying I had to enable Javascript to register. Does Safari not have Javascript? I couldn't find anything useful in the help, but that may be because I didn't know where to look. Yes, it does, and it's particularly good (ie fast) too. Maybe it's disabled? Look in Safari Preferences on the Security tab for the Enable JavaScript tickbox. If you can live with Safari's voracious appetite for RAM there's no reason to install another browser. I can't though, so I use Chrome instead. Otherwise, I like Safari and would use it for everything. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Figuring out this Apple stuff
on 2014-03-12 18:11 Bruce Walker wrote If you can live with Safari's voracious appetite for RAM there's no reason to install another browser. I can't though, so I use Chrome instead. Otherwise, I like Safari and would use it for everything. Safari is my default browser, but i put some of my always-loaded sites in Chrome specifically to keep the memory usage down; the other reason i use Chrome is i don't install a system-wide Flash plugin; i use Chrome's built-in, sandboxed version of Flash (set to not auto-play) when needed; i also have JavaScript Blocker installed in Safari, and the net effect is a lot of peace and quiet i have heard that Flash for Safari is sandboxed as of OS X 10.9 (i'm on 10.7), but even if i were running 10.9, i'd still appreciate how Youtube (usually) switches to HTML5 playback when Flash is missing -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Figuring out this Apple stuff
on 2014-03-12 18:00 John wrote I downloaded OS X 10.9.2 and made the Unibeast 8GB USB backup. i know about tonymac86, but i had to learn about Unibeast; it sounds like you want to preserve the installer for use on a non-Apple machine (hackintosh); that should be irrelevant to your Mini, but as you've introduced unexplained variables, it's hard to be sure But do I need to use the USB drive to install OS X 10.9.2? you can install it directly; that process will then delete the installer, but you've got a backup, as i understand it, in the Unibeast; otherwise i would suggest you make a simple backup of the installer before running it; unless you have really fast internet service I got errors saying I had to enable Javascript to register. Does Safari not have Javascript? I couldn't find anything useful in the help, but that may be because I didn't know where to look. Safari has JavaScript, and normally it's on, so i suspect you somehow turned it off; the tonymac86 registration page uses JavaScript for a captcha - do you see a Image Verification section without an image - that would explain it i'd just turn JavaScript back on; preferences for most applications are in the application menu, which is on the left next to the Apple menu, under the application name; command-comma is the keyboard shortcut to preferences; if that doesn't work, perhaps your hosts file is blocking some necessary JS? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Figuring out this Apple stuff
The auto time out is in System Preferences (in the applications folder) and is under Energy Saver Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au On 12/03/2014 2:21 pm, John wrote: In case anyone is actually interested in my baptism by fire ... Finally finished reading the instruction books, hooked everything together turned it on. Mostly semi-intuitive setting it up. There's a few things I need to figure out yet. Had to log into the App Store which required me to update my billing information. No big problem there. It tells me I'm currently at OS X 10.8.3. It's currently downloading OS X Mavericks (it said free update?). Is that going to fix that goto fail bug? Or am I going to have to get a later version? I also got a bunch of emails from Apple telling me my Apple ID is being used with a new computer that it's never been associated with before, but since it's notifying me of things I just did a few minutes before to get it up running, it's not that worrisome ... Except, it says I've used my Apple ID to log into Facetime iMessage. I have only the vaguest idea what those are (something like Skype AOL Instant Messenger??). I'll have to figure out where to turn them off in a bit. I already turned off bluetooth Wi-Fi. I don't use either of those on my home network. The other thing I need to find is how to set the auto-time-out so I don't have to hover over it and move the mouse every few minutes to prevent it from going to sleep while I'm doing other things. Right now it looks like it's set at about 5 minutes. It's gone down twice in just the time it's taken me to write this. Tomorrow night I start looking at getting the recording software installed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
