Re: OT: Tv tech question - ah-ha

2013-10-01 Thread Steve Cottrell 
On 30/9/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I got a new HD one .. and , jsut for good measure ... a nicely 
>inexpensive HD TV 24"  as large as I could tolerate..  Now I have
>the 24" in the main viewing area (my office) , the old sd set in the 
>kitchen attached to the cable box with RCA cables, and one in the 
>bedroom attached with red/green/blue rca cables.  Now I don't have to 
>move any of them .
>
>The TV was $149 and "I dont have to pay for it" because I have a
>PC Richard credit card :-)

Sorted! Excellent setup. Job done!

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Re: OT: Tv tech question - ah-ha

2013-10-01 Thread Steve Cottrell 
On 30/9/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Shouldn't need a signal booster for cable.

Aha yes, cable. I assumed that she was referring to an original image
pre-cable box.

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Re: OT: Tv tech question - ah-ha

2013-09-30 Thread Jack Davis 
You sound comfortably set.

Jack ;-]

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It was a bad cable box...

I got a new HD one .. and , jsut for good measure ... a nicely 
inexpensive HD TV 24"  as large as I could tolerate..  Now I have
the 24" in the main viewing area (my office) , the old sd set in the 
kitchen attached to the cable box with RCA cables, and one in the 
bedroom attached with red/green/blue rca cables.  Now I don't have to 
move any of them .

The TV was $149 and "I dont have to pay for it" because I have a
PC Richard credit card :-)

2 month in advance birthday present to myself

ann


On 9/30/2013 14:54, John wrote:
> On 9/30/2013 1:38 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>> On 30/9/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>> Came home, and as a result of the new box (not HD) I now can view
>>> NOTHING without extreme pixilation and bad sound.
>>
>> This is a reception issue.
>>
>> Try a signal-booster - where is the antennae?
>>
>
> Shouldn't need a signal booster for cable.
>

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Re: OT: Tv tech question - ah-ha

2013-09-30 Thread Ann Sanfedele 

It was a bad cable box...

I got a new HD one .. and , jsut for good measure ... a nicely 
inexpensive HD TV 24"  as large as I could tolerate..  Now I have
the 24" in the main viewing area (my office) , the old sd set in the 
kitchen attached to the cable box with RCA cables, and one in the 
bedroom attached with red/green/blue rca cables.  Now I don't have to 
move any of them .


The TV was $149 and "I dont have to pay for it" because I have a
PC Richard credit card :-)

2 month in advance birthday present to myself

ann


On 9/30/2013 14:54, John wrote:

On 9/30/2013 1:38 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 30/9/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:


Came home, and as a result of the new box (not HD) I now can view
NOTHING without extreme pixilation and bad sound.


This is a reception issue.

Try a signal-booster - where is the antennae?



Shouldn't need a signal booster for cable.



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Re: OT: Tv tech question - ah-ha

2013-09-30 Thread Eactivist 
Yes, if you have a non-HD convertor and you are  getting pixelated, I would 
say it is their problem, not  yours.

Marnie  I'd definitely talk to your cable co, regardless.  They can be 
surprisingly helpful a lot of the time. And not always for a  fee.

In a message dated 9/30/2013 8:10:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
gsi...@gmail.com writes:
If you're getting decent results Over the Air  through it's digital
converter and a bad signal from the Cable box, you can  rest assured,
with relative high probability that the problem is the cable  system,
not your TV.  The box may be mis-configured, defective, or the  signal
may be just plain bad.

gs  


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Re: OT: Tv tech question - ah-ha

2013-09-30 Thread John 

On 9/30/2013 1:38 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 30/9/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:


Came home, and as a result of the new box (not HD) I now can view
NOTHING without extreme pixilation and bad sound.


This is a reception issue.

Try a signal-booster - where is the antennae?



Shouldn't need a signal booster for cable.

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Re: OT: Tv tech question - ah-ha

2013-09-30 Thread Steve Cottrell 
On 30/9/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Came home, and as a result of the new box (not HD) I now can view 
>NOTHING without extreme pixilation and bad sound.

This is a reception issue.

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Re: OT: Tv tech question

2013-09-30 Thread Steve Cottrell 
On 30/9/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Do I need to have a TV that is "HD" to receive stations that are HD 
>using  a cable box that is HD ?

Hi Ann,

The answer to the question above is no, you don't.

You will, of course, see any HD output in a lower resolution. The real
question is: is the older TV that you will be watching on a 'widescreen'
TV ? If it is very old and big and heavy with a glass screen which is
rectangular at a 4:3 aspect ratio, then it's not 'widescreen'. If it has
been made in the past 5 or 10 years, and possibly is an LCD type
display, then it probably will be widescreen (16:9 aspect ratio). Here
are what the aspect ratios look like:

16:9



4:3




What usually happens if you try and watch HD on an old 4:3 box is that
the picture will squish in horizontally - making people look thin and
tall (actually not a bad thing ;-)  UNLESS there are inbuilt menus to
allow the picture to scale to the 4:3 frame - so that there will be thin
black rectangular spaces above and below the 'widescreen' picture, but
at least it will be viewable as intended. The downside is the image area
will be smaller.

On widescreen TVs, when you view old 4:3 shows that have not been
properly 'treated' to an aspect ratio conversion, the opposite happens -
the 4:3 image is 'filled out sideways' to the edges of the widescreen
frame - making everyone look short and rotund (I was going to mention
names here but thought better of it!!) and in fact it looks awful.



>I dont care if I see things in HD or not. I just want to be able to
>get the stations.

You will get the stations - maybe. Connections are always problematical
from new tech to old tech. Check that the outputs from the HD cable box
matches the input to your TV. The old fashioned round antennae cable
(know as RF cable) is usually the last resort, but in your case may be
your only option. HD boxes will have an HDMI port, and plugging one end
of an HDMI cable into this, and the other end into a 'HD' TV will give
you the best possible picture.

Next down the pecking list will be component video.

Then composite video.

And finally RF video. But to be honest, in your situation it will be fine.

SCART connections used to be the norm but now outdated - it is possible
your TV may have such a connect on the back. If there is 'video out' on
the HD box, then an adaptor and suitable cabling can make that
connection. If it only has HDMI out, then all is not lost as you can
still cobble together HDMI output via adaptors into video and audio in
on the TV - if indeed there is separate audio in on the TV, which if it
has SCART there will be. If your TV just has RF in (the old round TV
antennae cable, and the HD box just has HDMI, then maybe time to
consider a new TV.

OR - a cheap 16:9 computer monitor with separate audio/video in ports. I
bought one for my lad, lots sell these days with all sorts of
connections on - good value as well!

Or even one with the dreaded HDMI - and then you can watch in proper HD :-)

>Don't get me started on why I'm asking

You know me, I never get you started ;-)

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Re: OT: Tv tech question - ah-ha

2013-09-30 Thread George Sinos 
Hi Ann

In my area the provider is Cox Cable.  They, like many other cable
providers compress the HD signal to conserve bandwidth.  If I switch
between the Over The Air and Cable versions of a national network I
can see a definite difference in picture quality. (The Over the Air
signal is better, not a lot, but it's detectable.)

If you're getting decent results Over the Air through it's digital
converter and a bad signal from the Cable box, you can rest assured,
with relative high probability that the problem is the cable system,
not your TV.  The box may be mis-configured, defective, or the signal
may be just plain bad.

gs


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On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> Thanks, George..
> I'm really screwed then..
>
> the problem is Turner Classic movie's SD channel is totally messed up,
> pixilated, etc.. I only went back fromBasic cable to standard (more money
> than I should be spending) to get that and weather channel.. so
> I was told that I should try the HD channel.. but my cable box didnt know
> what that was (you know 3 little ???)
>
> So I switched cable boxes - thinking I was getting an HD cable box,
> they didn't give me one because they knew I had only an SD tv.
> Came home, and as a result of the new box (not HD) I now can view NOTHING
> without extreme pixilation and bad sound.
>
> Tech from Time warner coming tomorrow... I wonder, now , if
> the HD cable box could possibly by chance or ahirpin logic, fix the
> reception on that one station.
>
> FOrtunately, I still can watch broadcast channels on a Tv I have
> with rabbit ears and digital converter borrowed from neighbor.
>
> ann
>
>
> On 9/30/2013 10:17, George Sinos wrote:
>>
>> Ann -
>>
>> The general answer is that you cannot view an HD channel on your older SD
>> TV.
>>
>> Every cable company handles these things differently, so for for a
>> definite answer you need to talk to your cable company.
>>
>> The cable company in my area sends both an SD version and an HD
>> version of most channels.  So, for instance there is an NBC at channel
>> 8 and an NBC-HD on channel 1008.  An SD TV can only view channel 8, an
>> HD tv can view either of the two.
>>
>> There are several types of connectors coming out of the cable box to
>> accommodate the different types of cables required for analog and
>> digital TVs.
>>
>> gs
>>
>> George Sinos
>> 
>> www.GeorgesPhotos.net
>> www.GeorgeSinos.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>> But can I view those HD channels on my non HD TVS?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/30/2013 10:01, Paul Stenquist wrote:


 Most stations broadcast in both HD and SD, and your HD cable box should
 be
 capable of receiving both.
 That's how it works with satellite TV, and I would think it's the same
 with cable.

 Pau
 On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

>
> Do I need to have a TV that is "HD" to receive stations that are HD
> using
> a cable box that is HD ?
>
> I dont care if I see things in HD or not. I just want to be able to
> get the stations.
>
> Don't get me started on why I'm asking
>
> thanks!
> ann
>
>
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Re: OT: Tv tech question - ah-ha

2013-09-30 Thread Jack Davis 
With regard to the Weather, if we watch it on HD the local weather is included 
in a much larger section of the country. Therefore, we are always tuned to SD 
for the local weather.

Jack

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Subject: Re: OT: Tv tech question - ah-ha

Thanks, George..
I'm really screwed then..

the problem is Turner Classic movie's SD channel is totally messed up, 
pixilated, etc.. I only went back fromBasic cable to standard (more 
money than I should be spending) to get that and weather channel.. so
I was told that I should try the HD channel.. but my cable box didnt 
know what that was (you know 3 little ???)

So I switched cable boxes - thinking I was getting an HD cable box,
they didn't give me one because they knew I had only an SD tv.
Came home, and as a result of the new box (not HD) I now can view 
NOTHING without extreme pixilation and bad sound.

Tech from Time warner coming tomorrow... I wonder, now , if
the HD cable box could possibly by chance or ahirpin logic, fix the 
reception on that one station.

FOrtunately, I still can watch broadcast channels on a Tv I have
with rabbit ears and digital converter borrowed from neighbor.

ann


On 9/30/2013 10:17, George Sinos wrote:
> Ann -
>
> The general answer is that you cannot view an HD channel on your older SD TV.
>
> Every cable company handles these things differently, so for for a
> definite answer you need to talk to your cable company.
>
> The cable company in my area sends both an SD version and an HD
> version of most channels.  So, for instance there is an NBC at channel
> 8 and an NBC-HD on channel 1008.  An SD TV can only view channel 8, an
> HD tv can view either of the two.
>
> There are several types of connectors coming out of the cable box to
> accommodate the different types of cables required for analog and
> digital TVs.
>
> gs
>
> George Sinos
> 
> www.GeorgesPhotos.net
> www.GeorgeSinos.com
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>> But can I view those HD channels on my non HD TVS?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/30/2013 10:01, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>>
>>> Most stations broadcast in both HD and SD, and your HD cable box should be
>>> capable of receiving both.
>>> That's how it works with satellite TV, and I would think it's the same
>>> with cable.
>>>
>>> Pau
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do I need to have a TV that is "HD" to receive stations that are HD using
>>>> a cable box that is HD ?
>>>>
>>>> I dont care if I see things in HD or not. I just want to be able to
>>>> get the stations.
>>>>
>>>> Don't get me started on why I'm asking
>>>>
>>>> thanks!
>>>> ann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: OT: Tv tech question

2013-09-30 Thread Jack Davis 
I'll answer for our cable co. (Comcast)
It's true that most of out "basis" cable channels telecast both. We can receive 
either, but the SD picture is not pano unless we wish to distort it by a tuner 
choice. Not too good a picture in that case, however. Somewhat distorted
We, also, have a different choice of channel numbers for each.
My sister doesn't have HD and tells me she doesn't feel she's missing anything.

Jack

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Subject: OT: Tv tech question


Do I need to have a TV that is "HD" to receive stations that are HD 
using  a cable box that is HD ?

I dont care if I see things in HD or not. I just want to be able to
get the stations.

Don't get me started on why I'm asking

thanks!
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Re: OT: Tv tech question - ah-ha

2013-09-30 Thread Ann Sanfedele 

Thanks, George..
I'm really screwed then..

the problem is Turner Classic movie's SD channel is totally messed up, 
pixilated, etc.. I only went back fromBasic cable to standard (more 
money than I should be spending) to get that and weather channel.. so
I was told that I should try the HD channel.. but my cable box didnt 
know what that was (you know 3 little ???)


So I switched cable boxes - thinking I was getting an HD cable box,
they didn't give me one because they knew I had only an SD tv.
Came home, and as a result of the new box (not HD) I now can view 
NOTHING without extreme pixilation and bad sound.


Tech from Time warner coming tomorrow... I wonder, now , if
the HD cable box could possibly by chance or ahirpin logic, fix the 
reception on that one station.


FOrtunately, I still can watch broadcast channels on a Tv I have
with rabbit ears and digital converter borrowed from neighbor.

ann


On 9/30/2013 10:17, George Sinos wrote:

Ann -

The general answer is that you cannot view an HD channel on your older SD TV.

Every cable company handles these things differently, so for for a
definite answer you need to talk to your cable company.

The cable company in my area sends both an SD version and an HD
version of most channels.  So, for instance there is an NBC at channel
8 and an NBC-HD on channel 1008.  An SD TV can only view channel 8, an
HD tv can view either of the two.

There are several types of connectors coming out of the cable box to
accommodate the different types of cables required for analog and
digital TVs.

gs

George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

But can I view those HD channels on my non HD TVS?




On 9/30/2013 10:01, Paul Stenquist wrote:


Most stations broadcast in both HD and SD, and your HD cable box should be
capable of receiving both.
That's how it works with satellite TV, and I would think it's the same
with cable.

Pau
On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:



Do I need to have a TV that is "HD" to receive stations that are HD using
a cable box that is HD ?

I dont care if I see things in HD or not. I just want to be able to
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Don't get me started on why I'm asking

thanks!
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Re: OT: Tv tech question

2013-09-30 Thread George Sinos 
Ann -

The general answer is that you cannot view an HD channel on your older SD TV.

Every cable company handles these things differently, so for for a
definite answer you need to talk to your cable company.

The cable company in my area sends both an SD version and an HD
version of most channels.  So, for instance there is an NBC at channel
8 and an NBC-HD on channel 1008.  An SD TV can only view channel 8, an
HD tv can view either of the two.

There are several types of connectors coming out of the cable box to
accommodate the different types of cables required for analog and
digital TVs.

gs

George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> But can I view those HD channels on my non HD TVS?
>
>
>
>
> On 9/30/2013 10:01, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> Most stations broadcast in both HD and SD, and your HD cable box should be
>> capable of receiving both.
>> That's how it works with satellite TV, and I would think it's the same
>> with cable.
>>
>> Pau
>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Do I need to have a TV that is "HD" to receive stations that are HD using
>>> a cable box that is HD ?
>>>
>>> I dont care if I see things in HD or not. I just want to be able to
>>> get the stations.
>>>
>>> Don't get me started on why I'm asking
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>> ann
>>>
>>>
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Re: OT: Tv tech question

2013-09-30 Thread Ann Sanfedele 

But can I view those HD channels on my non HD TVS?



On 9/30/2013 10:01, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Most stations broadcast in both HD and SD, and your HD cable box should be 
capable of receiving both.
That's how it works with satellite TV, and I would think it's the same with 
cable.

Pau
On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:



Do I need to have a TV that is "HD" to receive stations that are HD using  a 
cable box that is HD ?

I dont care if I see things in HD or not. I just want to be able to
get the stations.

Don't get me started on why I'm asking

thanks!
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Re: OT: Tv tech question

2013-09-30 Thread Paul Stenquist 
Most stations broadcast in both HD and SD, and your HD cable box should be 
capable of receiving both.
That's how it works with satellite TV, and I would think it's the same with 
cable.

Pau
On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> 
> Do I need to have a TV that is "HD" to receive stations that are HD using  a 
> cable box that is HD ?
> 
> I dont care if I see things in HD or not. I just want to be able to
> get the stations.
> 
> Don't get me started on why I'm asking
> 
> thanks!
> ann
> 
> 
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