Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

2016-09-26 Thread Jostein Øksne 
It's almost amazing how unamazed I am, Mark :-) 
Jostein 


Den 25. september 2016 21.45.16 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts 
:
>Jostein Øksne wrote:
>
>>Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts
>:
>>>John wrote:
>>>
Saw the news story a few minutes ago.

Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any
>of
my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner
>went
down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably
>>>don't
need it for that.

Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.
>>>
>>>I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo
>IS
>>>Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
>>>immediately.
>>> 
>>So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-) 
>
>You'd be amazed how many people don't. (Wait. No, you wouldn't.)
>
>You'd also be amazed how many people use the same password on multiple
>sites. (No, you wouldn't be amazed at that either.)
> 

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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

2016-09-25 Thread Brian Walters 
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016, at 09:44 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:54 PM, John  wrote:
> > How many online accounts do you have that require a password?
> >
> > If you create a strong password for each of them, how do you keep track
> > of them & remember what they are?


>  I have a book with each site and password Its a big book



I use an encrypted text file - actually two encrypted text files. The
first lists usernames and/or email addresses and has references to line
numbers in the second where the passwords are listed. This way I only
need to remember the two (different) passwords that decrypt the text
files.  In practice, I can usually remember important passwords so I
rarely need to resort to the text files.


Cheers

Brian

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> 
> Dave
> >
> > On 9/25/2016 11:26 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
> >>
> >> So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-)
> >>
> >> Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts
> >> :
> >>>
> >>> John wrote:
> >>>
>  Saw the news story a few minutes ago.
> 
>  Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
>  didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
>  my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
>  only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
>  down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably
> >>>
> >>> don't
> 
>  need it for that.
> 
>  Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo IS
> >>> Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
> >>> immediately.
> >>>
> >>
> >
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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

2016-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts 
Bill wrote:

>There are a lot of times where it really doesn't much matter if one has 
>the same password across multiple sites. Photograph chatrooms such as 
>dpreview and pentax forums are two such examples. Who the hell cares if 
>they get hacked on those sites?

Yep. That works as long as you don't use the same or similar passwords
on important sites. Also, when they ask for, say, your mother's maiden
name, give them a unique word that *isn't* your mother's maiden name
(just keep track of what you tell each site). The same goes for
"favorite pet", "first school", etc.
 
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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

2016-09-25 Thread David J Brooks 
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:54 PM, John  wrote:
> How many online accounts do you have that require a password?
>
> If you create a strong password for each of them, how do you keep track
> of them & remember what they are?

 I have a book with each site and password Its a big book

Dave
>
> On 9/25/2016 11:26 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
>>
>> So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-)
>>
>> Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts
>> :
>>>
>>> John wrote:
>>>
 Saw the news story a few minutes ago.

 Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
 didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
 my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
 only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
 down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably
>>>
>>> don't

 need it for that.

 Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo IS
>>> Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
>>> immediately.
>>>
>>
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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

2016-09-25 Thread Mark C 

On 9/25/2016 3:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


You'd be amazed how many people don't. (Wait. No, you wouldn't.)

You'd also be amazed how many people use the same password on multiple
sites. (No, you wouldn't be amazed at that either.)
  


IMO - one of the dangers of the Yahoo hack is that the hackers got the 
answers to users' "secret questions" for password reset. You know, first 
pet's name, favorite movie, name of the street you grew up on,  etc...  
I have no idea how useful that data would be but it sounds like hackers 
are building a database on everyone... My high school teachers used to 
warn about the "permanent record that will follow you for the rest of 
your life" - and it turns out they were right!


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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

2016-09-25 Thread Jostein Øksne 
Lol. 
I am certainly not going to explain my scheme. Feel free to share yours.
Jostein 

Den 25. september 2016 20.54.45 CEST, skrev John :
>How many online accounts do you have that require a password?
>
>If you create a strong password for each of them, how do you keep track
>of them & remember what they are?
>
>On 9/25/2016 11:26 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
>> So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-)
>>
>> Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts
>:
>>> John wrote:
>>>
 Saw the news story a few minutes ago.

 Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but
>Yahoo
 didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any
>of
 my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password.
>The
 only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner
>went
 down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably
>>> don't
 need it for that.

 Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.
>>>
>>> I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo
>IS
>>> Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
>>> immediately.
>>>
>>

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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

2016-09-25 Thread Bill 

On 9/25/2016 1:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Jostein Øksne wrote:


Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts 
:

John wrote:


Saw the news story a few minutes ago.

Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably

don't

need it for that.

Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.


I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo IS
Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
immediately.


So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-)


You'd be amazed how many people don't. (Wait. No, you wouldn't.)

You'd also be amazed how many people use the same password on multiple
sites. (No, you wouldn't be amazed at that either.)




There are a lot of times where it really doesn't much matter if one has 
the same password across multiple sites. Photograph chatrooms such as 
dpreview and pentax forums are two such examples. Who the hell cares if 
they get hacked on those sites?


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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

2016-09-25 Thread Larry Colen 



John wrote:

How many online accounts do you have that require a password?

If you create a strong password for each of them, how do you keep track
of them & remember what they are?


One trick that a lot of people do is to use a two part password.  Have 
one strong password that you can remember, for example @vo6022 then have 
something based on the domain, maybe the first letters of the domain and 
extension with a character between them, pdml.net could become p*n


So, your password for pdml.net would be @vo6022p*n and your password for 
wellsfargo would be @vo6022w*c


Someone who gets your password for multiple sites would be able to 
figure it out, but if someone gets your password on yahoo, they wouldn't 
then be successful if their script tried the same account and password 
on google.


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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

2016-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts 
Jostein Øksne wrote:

>Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts 
>:
>>John wrote:
>>
>>>Saw the news story a few minutes ago.
>>>
>>>Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
>>>didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
>>>my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
>>>only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
>>>down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably
>>don't
>>>need it for that.
>>>
>>>Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.
>>
>>I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo IS
>>Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
>>immediately.
>> 
>So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-) 

You'd be amazed how many people don't. (Wait. No, you wouldn't.)

You'd also be amazed how many people use the same password on multiple
sites. (No, you wouldn't be amazed at that either.)
 
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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

2016-09-25 Thread John 

How many online accounts do you have that require a password?

If you create a strong password for each of them, how do you keep track
of them & remember what they are?

On 9/25/2016 11:26 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-)

Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts 
:

John wrote:


Saw the news story a few minutes ago.

Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably

don't

need it for that.

Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.


I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo IS
Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
immediately.





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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

2016-09-25 Thread Jostein Øksne 
So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-) 

Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts 
:
>John wrote:
>
>>Saw the news story a few minutes ago.
>>
>>Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
>>didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
>>my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
>>only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
>>down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably
>don't
>>need it for that.
>>
>>Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.
>
>I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo IS
>Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
>immediately.
> 

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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

2016-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts 
John wrote:

>Saw the news story a few minutes ago.
>
>Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
>didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
>my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
>only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
>down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably don't
>need it for that.
>
>Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.

I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo IS
Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
immediately.
 
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