RE: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
http://www.rpphoto.com/images/howto/Anna%20and%20Turbo.jpg The battery, no the girl. She has mad eyes. -- Cheers, Cotty Nahh, she is just crazy about that big gun. Just admit it Cotty, you really want one of these next, the girl not the gun ;-). Or maybe both. Antti-Pekka Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy RD Turku www.computec.fi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
On 05/11/07, Antti-Pekka Virjonen, discombobulated, unleashed: Just admit it Cotty, you really want one of these next, the girl not the gun ;-). Or maybe both. Hey I'll take what i can get! Seriously, I'm done with buying kit for now. I just won a K50 1.4 and that completes my purchases for now. I'll use it with my DMC-L1 along with A20 2.8 and 85 1.4. A camera and three primes - simple :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
Nothing really wide in that lineup though. Not at least in that format. Cotty wrote: On 05/11/07, Antti-Pekka Virjonen, discombobulated, unleashed: Just admit it Cotty, you really want one of these next, the girl not the gun ;-). Or maybe both. Hey I'll take what i can get! Seriously, I'm done with buying kit for now. I just won a K50 1.4 and that completes my purchases for now. I'll use it with my DMC-L1 along with A20 2.8 and 85 1.4. A camera and three primes - simple :-) -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
On Nov 5, 2007, at 6:56 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Cotty wrote: On 05/11/07, Antti-Pekka Virjonen, discombobulated, unleashed: Just admit it Cotty, you really want one of these next, the girl not the gun ;-). Or maybe both. Hey I'll take what i can get! Seriously, I'm done with buying kit for now. I just won a K50 1.4 and that completes my purchases for now. I'll use it with my DMC-L1 along with A20 2.8 and 85 1.4. A camera and three primes - simple :-) Nothing really wide in that lineup though. Not at least in that format. If Cotty wants something wide for the L1, the lens to have is the Olympus ZD 11-22/2.8-3.5. A superb performer. That said, a 20, 50 and 85 is a very nice kit for the L1 ... No reason that you always have to have all bases covered, just the ones you want to use. I've got a few more options, but the lenses I use most are a Nikkor 20/3.5 and Olympus 35/3.5 Macro with the L1 body. The addition of the 25/1.4 to have one very fast normal lens is something I'm considering. I use the FA43/1.9 with it too. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
On 05/11/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Nothing really wide in that lineup though. Not at least in that format. This is true. Already my shooting habits mean that I use the A20 a lot, not so much the 85. The 50 will be fine, and then the 85 can come back to EOS ;-) If I want wide, the K15 on the 1DmII is pretty good. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
Good point! Guess I wasn't thinking... Christian graywolf wrote: Why not do the initial build at home then move the box to your parents? Christian wrote: A friend added to the paranoia the other day and suggested running another rsync job to another Linux box at my parents' house for even more redundancy. Not a bad idea... The initial sync would take hours over the internet but changes and additions would go relatively quickly. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
The fires in California got me thinking about my image storage and backup requirements. I thought, what if I had to leave my house and only had a few minutes to get the family to safety? All my kids' and family pictures are stored digitally and I worry about losing them to natural disaster or some other tragedy including computer crashes. So here is my latest scheme: All my images (I only have 95GB stored currently) are on one 320GB SATA drive on my Windows XP Pro box for editing in PSCS3. The windows system has 1 other 320GB SATA drive for storage, a 160GB IDE drive for OS and programs and a 60GB SATA drive for PS scratch. At ~4am every day I have an rsync cron job kick off on my Linux system that syncs files from the Windows box to my Linux box where I have 2x 320GB SATA drives in a RAID 1 set. The Windows filesystem is mounted via CIFS on the Linux box. Once a week or more I manually run an rsync command to sync the files from the Linux box to an external USB drive. If I have to leave the house in a hurry I can just grab the external enclosure which is in the office next to the front door. A friend added to the paranoia the other day and suggested running another rsync job to another Linux box at my parents' house for even more redundancy. Not a bad idea... The initial sync would take hours over the internet but changes and additions would go relatively quickly. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
On 02/11/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: On a happy note: I just took delivery of a beautiful 580EX to replace my dead Smegma 500. m shiny, new flash. Ooooh. I've had mine for a while now - still haven't figured it out. I hate flash. I stick the camera on manual, 1/250th and f8 and the flash is spot-on every time, direct or bounced. You'll really want one of these next :-) http://www.rpphoto.com/images/howto/Anna%20and%20Turbo.jpg The battery, no the girl. She has mad eyes. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
Cotty wrote: Dude - you want to move from there, sounds like a dangerous place to live. Wild, wild, Freaking, West... Even my Kid's hamster is armed On a happy note: I just took delivery of a beautiful 580EX to replace my dead Smegma 500. m shiny, new flash. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
Christian wrote: Cotty wrote: Dude - you want to move from there, sounds like a dangerous place to live. Wild, wild, Freaking, West... Even my Kid's hamster is armed On a happy note: I just took delivery of a beautiful 580EX to replace my dead Smegma 500. m shiny, new flash. Ok then sorry for the Canon pr0n... That was meant to be off-list. Must... not... turn... red... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
On 02/11/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: what if I had to leave my house and only had a few minutes to get the family to safety? All my kids' and family pictures are stored digitally and I worry about losing them to natural disaster or some other tragedy including computer crashes. So here is my latest scheme: Once a week or more I manually run an rsync command to sync the files from the Linux box to an external USB drive. If I have to leave the house in a hurry I can just grab the external enclosure which is in the office next to the front door. A friend added to the paranoia the other day and suggested running another rsync job to another Linux box at my parents' house for even more redundancy. Not a bad idea... The initial sync would take hours over the internet but changes and additions would go relatively quickly. Dude - you want to move from there, sounds like a dangerous place to live. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
Thanks to all for the suggestions and insight. I decided to go with the two 500GB drives configured as a RAID 1 array. I like the idea of having an automatic, almost real-time backup of the primary drive. I also chose this option because drives in general are dirt cheap and I can install another one or two shortly after getting it. In fact, I'm likely to install two more 500GB drives, so I have plenty of space and options for allocating swap and scratch. I was telling my son how cheap this stuff is. Back in the late '80's I worked on a project where I recovered 4.5GB of DASD on IBM 3380's. That was on my resume for 10 years because it represented over $750K savings to the company. I took that off several years ago. 4GB drives, if they can be found anymore are dirt cheap. A 4GB microdrive goes for under $100, not mention that 4GB solid state CF are now so inexpensive as to make microdrives look like dinosaurs. Tom C. From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:04:49 +0900 At 05:03 AM 2/11/2007, you wrote: I'm within hours from making a decision regarding a new desktop. I'm currently using PS2. The desktop comes with Vista Home Premium, though it's possible I'll go to XP Pro depending on how performance seems. I'm on a laptop at present with Vista Business. No major complaints after turning off eye candy, reminders, automatic scheduled processes, and telling it to look like classic windows. I'll likely get 1TB of storage. But there are options. 1. 2 X 500 GB non-RAID SATA drives. 2. 2 X 500 GB configured as RAID 0. 3. 2 X 500 GB configured as RAID 1. Let's forget option 3 since I can backup to any external drive I want. To the meat of my question... Ideally the Windows virtual swap file and Photoshop scratch area are not supposed to be on the same physical disk. With option 2 though, Windows and CS2 will see 1 big drive. Who can tell which physical drive is being utilized for what? It seems counter to what I think would be the best approach (which is to have an additional RAID 0 array for PS Scratch, which I won't). While a little performance may be lost, might it be better to go with a non-RAID configuration and be sure that Windows swap and Photoshop scratch are on two independent physical devices? Any one have experience with this exactly. Also, I'm a little afraid of RAID 0 and recoverability. Thanks. Stay away from RAID 0 for file storage. I lost 8 months of data (which I didn't back-up) due to a drive that physically destroyed itself. I recommend building your workstation for speed, looking into Network Attached Storage (NAS) for file storage/back-up. (I'm currently considering a Netgear ReadyNAS configured for RAID 5.) If you went that route, option 1 (or ideally 2), would be the way to go IMHO. Also, check the windows web site. There is a white paper there about configuring your system for digital imaging. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
She looks like she can chew up nails and spit them out as bullets... Cotty wrote: On 02/11/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: On a happy note: I just took delivery of a beautiful 580EX to replace my dead Smegma 500. m shiny, new flash. Ooooh. I've had mine for a while now - still haven't figured it out. I hate flash. I stick the camera on manual, 1/250th and f8 and the flash is spot-on every time, direct or bounced. You'll really want one of these next :-) http://www.rpphoto.com/images/howto/Anna%20and%20Turbo.jpg The battery, no the girl. She has mad eyes. -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
P. J. Alling wrote: She looks like she can chew up nails and spit them out as bullets... My kind of girl and she excellent taste in lenses. :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net Cotty wrote: http://www.rpphoto.com/images/howto/Anna%20and%20Turbo.jpg The battery, no the girl. She has mad eyes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
Why not do the initial build at home then move the box to your parents? Christian wrote: A friend added to the paranoia the other day and suggested running another rsync job to another Linux box at my parents' house for even more redundancy. Not a bad idea... The initial sync would take hours over the internet but changes and additions would go relatively quickly. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
I use a plumped up version of option one: five 500 GB non-RAID SATA drives. I back up important work on alternate drives as necessary, and I back up all photo files on DVD. Non-RAID individual drives give me lots of flexibility. That's what I like. Paul -- Original message -- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm within hours from making a decision regarding a new desktop. I'm currently using PS2. The desktop comes with Vista Home Premium, though it's possible I'll go to XP Pro depending on how performance seems. I'm on a laptop at present with Vista Business. No major complaints after turning off eye candy, reminders, automatic scheduled processes, and telling it to look like classic windows. I'll likely get 1TB of storage. But there are options. 1. 2 X 500 GB non-RAID SATA drives. 2. 2 X 500 GB configured as RAID 0. 3. 2 X 500 GB configured as RAID 1. Let's forget option 3 since I can backup to any external drive I want. To the meat of my question... Ideally the Windows virtual swap file and Photoshop scratch area are not supposed to be on the same physical disk. With option 2 though, Windows and CS2 will see 1 big drive. Who can tell which physical drive is being utilized for what? It seems counter to what I think would be the best approach (which is to have an additional RAID 0 array for PS Scratch, which I won't). While a little performance may be lost, might it be better to go with a non-RAID configuration and be sure that Windows swap and Photoshop scratch are on two independent physical devices? Any one have experience with this exactly. Also, I'm a little afraid of RAID 0 and recoverability. Thanks. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
PS2... meant Photoshop CS2. Tom C. From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:03:51 -0700 I'm within hours from making a decision regarding a new desktop. I'm currently using PS2. The desktop comes with Vista Home Premium, though it's possible I'll go to XP Pro depending on how performance seems. I'm on a laptop at present with Vista Business. No major complaints after turning off eye candy, reminders, automatic scheduled processes, and telling it to look like classic windows. I'll likely get 1TB of storage. But there are options. 1. 2 X 500 GB non-RAID SATA drives. 2. 2 X 500 GB configured as RAID 0. 3. 2 X 500 GB configured as RAID 1. Let's forget option 3 since I can backup to any external drive I want. To the meat of my question... Ideally the Windows virtual swap file and Photoshop scratch area are not supposed to be on the same physical disk. With option 2 though, Windows and CS2 will see 1 big drive. Who can tell which physical drive is being utilized for what? It seems counter to what I think would be the best approach (which is to have an additional RAID 0 array for PS Scratch, which I won't). While a little performance may be lost, might it be better to go with a non-RAID configuration and be sure that Windows swap and Photoshop scratch are on two independent physical devices? Any one have experience with this exactly. Also, I'm a little afraid of RAID 0 and recoverability. Thanks. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions I'm within hours from making a decision regarding a new desktop. I'm currently using PS2. The desktop comes with Vista Home Premium, though it's possible I'll go to XP Pro depending on how performance seems. I'm on a laptop at present with Vista Business. No major complaints after turning off eye candy, reminders, automatic scheduled processes, and telling it to look like classic windows. I'll likely get 1TB of storage. But there are options. 1. 2 X 500 GB non-RAID SATA drives. 2. 2 X 500 GB configured as RAID 0. 3. 2 X 500 GB configured as RAID 1. Let's forget option 3 since I can backup to any external drive I want. To the meat of my question... Ideally the Windows virtual swap file and Photoshop scratch area are not supposed to be on the same physical disk. With option 2 though, Windows and CS2 will see 1 big drive. Who can tell which physical drive is being utilized for what? It seems counter to what I think would be the best approach (which is to have an additional RAID 0 array for PS Scratch, which I won't). While a little performance may be lost, might it be better to go with a non-RAID configuration and be sure that Windows swap and Photoshop scratch are on two independent physical devices? Any one have experience with this exactly. Also, I'm a little afraid of RAID 0 and recoverability. Thanks. With 2 drives, I'd stear clear of RAID. With 2 drives, you can to either Raid 0 (fast, but half the reliability of a single drive) or RAID 1 (twice the reliability of a single drive, but half the capacity). Put your PS swap onto the second drive. I ended up with 5 drives, 4 of which are configured as two seperate RAIDs (0+1). William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
At 05:03 AM 2/11/2007, you wrote: I'm within hours from making a decision regarding a new desktop. I'm currently using PS2. The desktop comes with Vista Home Premium, though it's possible I'll go to XP Pro depending on how performance seems. I'm on a laptop at present with Vista Business. No major complaints after turning off eye candy, reminders, automatic scheduled processes, and telling it to look like classic windows. I'll likely get 1TB of storage. But there are options. 1. 2 X 500 GB non-RAID SATA drives. 2. 2 X 500 GB configured as RAID 0. 3. 2 X 500 GB configured as RAID 1. Let's forget option 3 since I can backup to any external drive I want. To the meat of my question... Ideally the Windows virtual swap file and Photoshop scratch area are not supposed to be on the same physical disk. With option 2 though, Windows and CS2 will see 1 big drive. Who can tell which physical drive is being utilized for what? It seems counter to what I think would be the best approach (which is to have an additional RAID 0 array for PS Scratch, which I won't). While a little performance may be lost, might it be better to go with a non-RAID configuration and be sure that Windows swap and Photoshop scratch are on two independent physical devices? Any one have experience with this exactly. Also, I'm a little afraid of RAID 0 and recoverability. Thanks. Stay away from RAID 0 for file storage. I lost 8 months of data (which I didn't back-up) due to a drive that physically destroyed itself. I recommend building your workstation for speed, looking into Network Attached Storage (NAS) for file storage/back-up. (I'm currently considering a Netgear ReadyNAS configured for RAID 5.) If you went that route, option 1 (or ideally 2), would be the way to go IMHO. Also, check the windows web site. There is a white paper there about configuring your system for digital imaging. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
