Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
I am glad, I am not the only linguistic nerd here. Looking up one of the jokes posted in response led me to this forum: http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/jokes-that-95-of-people-wont-get/page/1 I suspects other resident nerds might enjoy some of those jokes as well. Cheers, Igor Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 12:59:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Igor Roshchin It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
I don't feel too bad. I only had to look up a couple of them. On 6/4/2014 2:12 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I am glad, I am not the only linguistic nerd here. Looking up one of the jokes posted in response led me to this forum: http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/jokes-that-95-of-people-wont-get/page/1 I suspects other resident nerds might enjoy some of those jokes as well. Cheers, Igor Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 12:59:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Igor Roshchin It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
Q. Who started the pedants' revolt? A. Which Tyler On 2 June 2014 22:26, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Control yourself, Chris. There's no room on the internet for pedantry. B On 2 Jun 2014, at 21:45, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Tautological and grammatically wrong (to be precise (and possibly pedantic)). Chris On 2 June 2014 17:59, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
A simple No more than 15 items could avoid controversy. On 6/2/2014 12:59 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
It should be 'const M = 14+1; for each basket b, ~(#items[b] M)' On 3 Jun 2014, at 16:20, John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: A simple No more than 15 items could avoid controversy. On 6/2/2014 12:59 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
Real [natural] pe[n]dants are discussed in another thread. ;-) Igor Mon Jun 2 19:21:46 EDT 2014 Ann Sanfedele wrote: Good point - I'm only a quasi-pedant ann On 6/2/2014 18:55, John Francis wrote: Or, for us true pedants, neither has/neither is On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 06:25:21PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote: My pet peeve as well, Igor - Alas, it seems that less has been taking over and i'm told by an editor friend that it is now considered acceptable usage. My other one is the both don't have/are not in place of neither have/neither are sigh ann On 6/2/2014 12:59, Igor Roshchin wrote: It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
On 4 June 2014 04:11, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Real [natural] pe[n]dants are discussed in another thread. ;-) Igor At first I did read that as Natural Pedants. So sad... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
I agree with you on the linguistic point, but everyone thinks I am a grammar nazi. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
I'm of the fewer persuasion too. That sign is doubly guilty in that 'up to X items' already means 'X items or fewer'. They should only say it once. Or fewer than once. B On 2 Jun 2014, at 18:40, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with you on the linguistic point, but everyone thinks I am a grammar nazi. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
Tautological and grammatically wrong (to be precise (and possibly pedantic)). Chris On 2 June 2014 17:59, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
Control yourself, Chris. There's no room on the internet for pedantry. B On 2 Jun 2014, at 21:45, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Tautological and grammatically wrong (to be precise (and possibly pedantic)). Chris On 2 June 2014 17:59, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
My pet peeve as well, Igor - Alas, it seems that less has been taking over and i'm told by an editor friend that it is now considered acceptable usage. My other one is the both don't have/are not in place of neither have/neither are sigh ann On 6/2/2014 12:59, Igor Roshchin wrote: It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
Or, for us true pedants, neither has/neither is On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 06:25:21PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote: My pet peeve as well, Igor - Alas, it seems that less has been taking over and i'm told by an editor friend that it is now considered acceptable usage. My other one is the both don't have/are not in place of neither have/neither are sigh ann On 6/2/2014 12:59, Igor Roshchin wrote: It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
Good point - I'm only a quasi-pedant ann On 6/2/2014 18:55, John Francis wrote: Or, for us true pedants, neither has/neither is On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 06:25:21PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote: My pet peeve as well, Igor - Alas, it seems that less has been taking over and i'm told by an editor friend that it is now considered acceptable usage. My other one is the both don't have/are not in place of neither have/neither are sigh ann On 6/2/2014 12:59, Igor Roshchin wrote: It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Control yourself, Chris. There's no room on the internet for pedantry. Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - linguistic pet peeve in a snapshot
We feel your pain, Igor. My latest peeve is that I've started noticing people writing prices with the currency symbol after the number, eg 10$. Fingernails-on-blackboard. Cheers, Dave On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:59 am, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: It has been discussed many times in many venues that the correct usage is 10 items or FEWER vs 10 items or less (and apparently there is no complete consensus, even though I am on the fewer side in this case). But in this case, the situation is worse: UP TO .. or LESS... http://42graphy.org/snapshots/IMG_20140523_212839_018-scr.jpg Some people are not paid to think. (Seen in Victoria's [BC] Save-On-Foods.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
