Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-15 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 15 Sep 2006 01:09:19 +0200 schreef J and K Messervy  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I don't really understand this push for smaller and smaller DSLRs.  I  
> like a
> substantial (camera) body in my hands.  I've got big steam shovel hands  
> and
> tiny little cameras are frustrating.  Also, I love the tactile nature of  
> slr
> cameras...they're precision machines.  These miniature cameras are more  
> like
> toys to me.  One reason I love my LX film body is the tactile feel of a
> (mostly) mechanical instrument.
>
> I for one am glad the K10D is bigger than my DL.  I wouldn't want  
> anything
> smaller.

I love small camera's and, this being a Pentax list, I'm a bit surprised I  
seem to be the only one.

I fully expected not to use my MZ-50 after I got a Z-1, but I find I grab  
it surprisingly often: it's just so handy with one small lens on it...

And: An E-400 like Pentax would really fit the DA-pancakes...

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-15 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:50:43 +0200 schreef P. J. Alling  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>>
>>
>> I do wonder how they made the E-400 so light: at 380 grams it's much  
>> less
>> than the K100. The size difference is not so large.
>
> Plastic.

And a tiny battery, I read later. A true entry level camera, much like a  
MZ-50 or -60.

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Sep 14, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Cotty wrote:

>> given the runaway
>> success they're having with the K100D and the upcoming K10D ...
>
> Why Godders, I've always thought of you as a man of consideration and
> reason. There wouldn't be an element of *hype* involved in this
> statement would there  ;-)

I'm sorry. Did I say that with my outside voice? ]'-)

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread J and K Messervy
I don't really understand this push for smaller and smaller DSLRs.  I like a 
substantial (camera) body in my hands.  I've got big steam shovel hands and 
tiny little cameras are frustrating.  Also, I love the tactile nature of slr 
cameras...they're precision machines.  These miniature cameras are more like 
toys to me.  One reason I love my LX film body is the tactile feel of a 
(mostly) mechanical instrument.

I for one am glad the K10D is bigger than my DL.  I wouldn't want anything 
smaller.

James
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> On 9/14/06 9:45 AM, "Lucas Rijnders", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I do wonder how they made the E-400 so light: at 380 grams it's much less
>> than the K100.
>
> It's like my brain.  There is nothing in it :-).
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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Tom C
I would expect the new model to be relatively power hungry in comparison... 
especially with shake reduction.



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>I kind of think they had to change the batteries, I've gotten a lot of
>variability from the ones I've been using in the D and the DS.  It may
>be unfair but it reflects badly on the cameras.  I'll bet its been one
>of the major complaints they've gotten.  I do wish that it were possible
>to use AAs though, maybe in the grip, but that's water under the bridge
>now.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >Amen to that.  The Pentax designers could care less about accomodating
> >owners of the *ist D, like myself,  who have several CF cards.  Lack of 
>CF
> >card slot, and the change to non-AA battery power is the big turn-off for
> >me on the "top-of-the line" K10.
> >
> >Jim A.
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> >>It's about half the size of a SD card. But that doesn't matter as far
> >>as the point people were making about the Pentax is concerned. If a
> >>camera as small as this Olympus can take a CF card and a XD card, then
> >>a slightly larger camera like the Pentax should in principle be able
> >>to take a CF and SD card.
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> >>My E500 also takes XD and CF. not that I have any CF cards.
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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
I kind of think they had to change the batteries, I've gotten a lot of 
variability from the ones I've been using in the D and the DS.  It may 
be unfair but it reflects badly on the cameras.  I'll bet its been one 
of the major complaints they've gotten.  I do wish that it were possible 
to use AAs though, maybe in the grip, but that's water under the bridge 
now.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Amen to that.  The Pentax designers could care less about accomodating
>owners of the *ist D, like myself,  who have several CF cards.  Lack of CF
>card slot, and the change to non-AA battery power is the big turn-off for
>me on the "top-of-the line" K10.
>
>Jim A.
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>>It's about half the size of a SD card. But that doesn't matter as far
>>as the point people were making about the Pentax is concerned. If a
>>camera as small as this Olympus can take a CF card and a XD card, then
>>a slightly larger camera like the Pentax should in principle be able
>>to take a CF and SD card.
>>
>>My E500 also takes XD and CF. not that I have any CF cards.
>>
>>--
>>Cheers,
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
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>>>Subject: Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF
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>>>On 14/9/06, Bill Owens, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>No, xd is much smaller than a sd.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Thanks Bill
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RE: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread japilado
Amen to that.  The Pentax designers could care less about accomodating
owners of the *ist D, like myself,  who have several CF cards.  Lack of CF
card slot, and the change to non-AA battery power is the big turn-off for
me on the "top-of-the line" K10.

Jim A.





> It's about half the size of a SD card. But that doesn't matter as far
> as the point people were making about the Pentax is concerned. If a
> camera as small as this Olympus can take a CF card and a XD card, then
> a slightly larger camera like the Pentax should in principle be able
> to take a CF and SD card.
>
> My E500 also takes XD and CF. not that I have any CF cards.
>
> --
> Cheers,
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>
>> -Original Message-
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>> Behalf Of Cotty
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>> To: pentax list
>> Subject: Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF
>>
>> On 14/9/06, Bill Owens, discombobulated, unleashed:
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>> >No, xd is much smaller than a sd.
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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I've been looking at it, and I think it looks smaller than it actually is.

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>given the runaway  
>success they're having with the K100D and the upcoming K10D ...

Why Godders, I've always thought of you as a man of consideration and
reason. There wouldn't be an element of *hype* involved in this
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RE: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Bob W
It's about half the size of a SD card. But that doesn't matter as far
as the point people were making about the Pentax is concerned. If a
camera as small as this Olympus can take a CF card and a XD card, then
a slightly larger camera like the Pentax should in principle be able
to take a CF and SD card.

My E500 also takes XD and CF. not that I have any CF cards.

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> >No, xd is much smaller than a sd.
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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
The reviewer seems giddy with praise.  I like the strap lugs, I miss 
them on the Pentax DSLRs.

Tim Øsleby wrote:

>Hands-on review here
>http://www.digit.no/wip4/detail.epl?id=98892
>
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>Subject: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF
>
>This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD compatible
>with SD?
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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
I've been looking at it, and I think it looks smaller than it actually is.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Far too small for my hands. Looks like you would need a tweasers to work some 
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>>This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD compatible
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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
>
>
>I do wonder how they made the E-400 so light: at 380 grams it's much less  
>than the K100. The size difference is not so large.
>  
>

Plastic.

Lucas Rijnders wrote:

>Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:03:26 +0200 schreef David Savage  
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>  
>
>>That's a really small camera.
>>I can feel my hands cramping up just looking at it.
>>
>>
>
>Huh? It's about the size of the M-, A-, or MZ-series, which is fine in my  
>book. That K10, on the other hand, comes close to a Z-1. Definately on the  
>large side... Either Pentax has given up on 'small', and concentrates on  
>features now, or they have their work cut out for them for the K200 or  
>K1000...
>
>I do wonder how they made the E-400 so light: at 380 grams it's much less  
>than the K100. The size difference is not so large.
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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
They stopped competing in that direction already, the K100D is already 
bigger than the Ds/Dl Et. Al.

Digital Image Studio wrote:

>On 14/09/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
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>>That's a really small camera.
>>
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>Pentax will be poohing themselves, who wears the crown now. LOL
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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
I didn't realize how small it was until you mentioned it.  Looks more 
like a novelty than a real tool.

David Savage wrote:

>That's a really small camera.
>
>I can feel my hands cramping up just looking at it.
>
>Dave
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>On 9/14/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD compatible
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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
The XD cards are much a bit smaller than SD cards, I'm already not happy 
about how easy it would be to mishandle and lose an SD card...

Cotty wrote:

>This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD compatible
>with SD?
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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Sep 14, 2006, at 6:21 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

> On 14/09/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> That's a really small camera.
>
> Pentax will be poohing themselves, who wears the crown now. LOL

I doubt that Pentax will be poohing themselves, given the runaway  
success they're having with the K100D and the upcoming K10D ...

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 15/9/06, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I definitely wouldn't be fazed to own a larger camera, even 5D sized
>at this stage though the M8 does look tempting ;-)

If they don't find a way to cover that LCD, it will just be a toy. There
are two Leica buyers - the loaded hobbyist/collector and the travelling
pro. Designed with that exposed LCD on the back, I can see the latter
wincing in pain at the thought of clunking it about in a souk. To vulnerable.

Shame, it is nice

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:

>For Cotty and anyone else who wants to know the reletive sizes of CF, 
>SD, and XD cards a Q&D snapshot:
>
>http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Cards.jpg

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:

>BTW, I wonder when they will stop putting a D on the names?

When they go back to making film cameras ;-)

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/14/06 9:45 AM, "Lucas Rijnders", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I do wonder how they made the E-400 so light: at 380 grams it's much less
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RE: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
Agreed. I could never use this as my everyday camera. But it looks kind of
nice as a replacement for my Oly 5050 wide. 


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Far too small for my hands. Looks like you would need a tweasers to work
some of the controls.
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RE: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread pnstenquist
Far too small for my hands. Looks like you would need a tweasers to work some 
of the controls.
Paul
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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread graywolf
For Cotty and anyone else who wants to know the reletive sizes of CF, 
SD, and XD cards a Q&D snapshot:

http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Cards.jpg

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RE: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
Hands-on review here
http://www.digit.no/wip4/detail.epl?id=98892


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This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD compatible
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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Adam Maas
David Savage wrote:
> On 9/14/06, Lucas Rijnders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:03:26 +0200 schreef David Savage
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>
>>>That's a really small camera.
>>>I can feel my hands cramping up just looking at it.
>>
>>Huh? It's about the size of the M-, A-, or MZ-series
> 
> 
> Yeah. Too small for me to hold comfortably.
> 
> Dave
> 

Ditto. Need to get the winder for my MX, it's really a bit too small.

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/09/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I find the D without grip too small.

I definitely wouldn't be fazed to own a larger camera, even 5D sized
at this stage though the M8 does look tempting ;-)

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
On 9/14/06, Lucas Rijnders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:03:26 +0200 schreef David Savage
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > That's a really small camera.
> > I can feel my hands cramping up just looking at it.
>
> Huh? It's about the size of the M-, A-, or MZ-series

Yeah. Too small for me to hold comfortably.

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:03:26 +0200 schreef David Savage  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> That's a really small camera.
> I can feel my hands cramping up just looking at it.

Huh? It's about the size of the M-, A-, or MZ-series, which is fine in my  
book. That K10, on the other hand, comes close to a Z-1. Definately on the  
large side... Either Pentax has given up on 'small', and concentrates on  
features now, or they have their work cut out for them for the K200 or  
K1000...

I do wonder how they made the E-400 so light: at 380 grams it's much less  
than the K100. The size difference is not so large.

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote:
> This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD compatible
> with SD?
> 
> 
> 

All the recent Oly 4/3rds bodies take both. But it's certainly true that 
this is the first really small DSLR to do so.

Bloody small, no North American release (Kinda surprising, with people 
over here actually complaining about the size of the XT). Old-fashioned 
layout too, much like a P-series Pentax.

However, I suspect the high-ISO noise will be even worse than the older 
Oly's, unless Oly has finally figured out Noise Reduction. 10MP in the 
4/3rds bitty sensor can't have good noise characteristics.

All in all, I'd much rather have the K100D than this little body.

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 14.09.2006, at 15:21 , Digital Image Studio wrote:

> Pentax will be poohing themselves, who wears the crown now. LOL
At least until Optio-S-sized K1000D comes ;-)

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread graywolf
Nope, only Oly and Fuji use them that I know of. They also have not 
gotten cheap. Consider XD cards as being semi-proprietary. The C-5050Z 
was the first Oly to use the dual card setup. I still like mine. 
interestingly it will do about 90% of what I need/want a camera to do. 
The K10D looks like it would do about 95%. By comparison the MXen can do 
98%, and the other 2% would require rather specialized equipment anyway. 
Somehow that other 5% seems awful expensive. Both the C-5050Z and the 
K10D are far too complicated in my opinion. Still, digital is darn 
convenient. Iffen I had the money I would buy a K10D anyway.

BTW, I wonder when they will stop putting a D on the names?

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> This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD compatible
> with SD?
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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
On 9/14/06, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 14/09/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That's a really small camera.
>
> Pentax will be poohing themselves, who wears the crown now. LOL

Oly. can have it as far as I'm concerned.

I find the D without grip too small.

Dave

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/09/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's a really small camera.

Pentax will be poohing themselves, who wears the crown now. LOL

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/14/06 9:03 AM, "David Savage", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That's a really small camera.
> 
> I can feel my hands cramping up just looking at it.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 9/14/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD compatible
>> with SD?
>> 
>> 

Re memory cards, Oly are stuck with the proprietary xD and if anything comes
with only xD, the sales would be doomed. So they really have no choice for
the dual format.

Re the size, this should be what the 4/3 should have been.  It does look too
small, but the compact size has its own place in the market.  All other 4/3,
be it the body or the lenses, there is no size/weight advantage over the
competitions, except the sensor size is small.  Oly are an excellent
company, one of the traditional camera/precision device mfrs like Pentax and
Nikon.  Hope they survive (in camera biz).

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, Bill Owens, discombobulated, unleashed:

>No, xd is much smaller than a sd.

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/14/06 9:17 AM, "K.Takeshita", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Re memory cards, Oly are stuck with the proprietary xD and if anything comes
> with only xD, the sales would be doomed. So they really have no choice for the
> dual format.
> 
> Re the size, this should be what the 4/3 should have been.  It does look too
> small, but the compact size has its own place in the market.  All other 4/3,
> be it the body or the lenses, there is no size/weight advantage over the
> competitions, except the sensor size is small.  Oly are an excellent company,
> one of the traditional camera/precision device mfrs like Pentax and Nikon.
> Hope they survive (in camera biz).

And I too am surprised that Oly US is not taking this model up, according to
Phill's remark.

Ken


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RE: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Bill Owens
No, xd is much smaller than a sd.

Bill

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Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
That's a really small camera.

I can feel my hands cramping up just looking at it.

Dave

On 9/14/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD compatible
> with SD?
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