Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
Sorry.  The phrase is "Not even wrong".  "No even wrong" is successfully wrong.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> Pauli's famous line about scientific theories that we so incomplete as
> to be pointless:  No even wrong.
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:02 AM, David Mann  wrote:
>> On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>>
>>> Perth?  Is that part of Australia?...
>>
>> Ouch, I thought you Aussies were more patriotic than that.
>>
>> I'd offer to swap you Perth for Auckland but we'd end up being responsible 
>> for Rolf Harris...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
Pauli's famous line about scientific theories that we so incomplete as
to be pointless:  No even wrong.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:02 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>
>> Perth?  Is that part of Australia?...
>
> Ouch, I thought you Aussies were more patriotic than that.
>
> I'd offer to swap you Perth for Auckland but we'd end up being responsible 
> for Rolf Harris...
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-09 Thread David Mann
On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> Perth?  Is that part of Australia?...

Ouch, I thought you Aussies were more patriotic than that.

I'd offer to swap you Perth for Auckland but we'd end up being responsible for 
Rolf Harris...

Cheers,
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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling

On 9/7/2011 5:33 PM, Bob W wrote:

Bob W wrote:


One of the greatest art feuds was between Leonardo da Vinci and
Michelangelo. Leonardo famously said that Michelangelo's anatomical

pictures

"look like a bag of walnuts".

And I agree with him.

The version of the story I heard had him using "sack of potatoes", but
DaVinci probably wouldn't have been familiar with that New World food
so "bag of walnuts" makes more sense. And, yes, he was right.

Mark Roberts - Photography&  Multimedia
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recent research into his childhood sketchbooks have proved that in fact
Leonardo da Vinci invented the potato.

B

And the Florence Fry, an idea almost immediately stolen by the French...

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
"Ken Waller"  wrote:

>Its just a matter of finding a small enough, twisty enough track and/or 
>racing in the rain. One of my regional races, way back when, was at 
>Waterford Hills, Michigan - named by Stirling Moss as one of the best small 
>tracks he'd ever seen.
>
>I was driving a 72 Pinto that competed in the under 2.0 L Trans Am. For the 
>feature race, run in the rain, I outran several higher horsepower race cars 
>and finished ahead of them. They were all over the track in the rain.

I did an endurance race in the rain once. On an FZR400 I was able to
pass quite a few GSXR750s and similar big bikes that simply couldn't
get any power down. After my friend came in from the first shift he
warned me not to exit corners above 7000 rpm, which is odd because
standard procedure with the FZR400 was to always keep the revs between
10-14 thou. But the first time I tried coming out of a corner at 8000
rpm showed me in quite dramatic fashion that 7000 was the right
number!


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Jim King
Three of my favorite ripostes are by Winston Churchill:

Lady Astor to Churchill: "Winston, if you were my husband I would flavour your 
coffee with poison."
Churchill: "Madam, if I were your husband, I should drink it."

Bessie Braddock to Churchill: "Winston, you're drunk!" 
Churchill: "Bessie, you're ugly, very ugly.  Tomorrow morning I shall be sober."

Playwright George Bernard Shaw invited Winston Churchill to the first night of 
his newest play, enclosing two tickets:
“One for yourself and one for a friend – if you have one.”
Churchill wrote back, saying he couldn’t make it, but he would like tickets for 
the second night – “if there is one.”


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 08:20:10AM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:
> On 2011-09-08 1:30, John Francis wrote:
> 
> >Nothing new there.  That's exactly the scenario that unfolded around
> >40 years ago, except in that case the powerhouses were Ford Galaxies,
> >and the roller skates were Mini Coopers.
> 
> It's pretty much unavoidable when the day is long enough for six or
> seven run groups and you're trying to stuff thirty or forty classes
> into them.  That doesn't make it less frustrating on track, though.

Oh, the Minis-vs-Galaxies battles were extremely entertaining (at least
from a spectator viewpoint).  I've seen them at Silverstone (a circuit
with long, fast straights where the Galaxies disappeared in the distance)
and on the club circuit at Brands Hatch (1.3 twisty miles).

The cars would pass and re-pass each other at several different points on
every lap, but still got to the start-finish line in about the same time.


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread William Robb

On 08/09/2011 3:08 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:






What if Aussies go to Canada?



We teach them about beer and barbecuing.

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Waller
Enjoy the experience - the Cayman should be a touch faster than the Boxster 
if they're both the base or 'S' model.


Be sure to relate the experience here.

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From: "Cotty" 

Subject: Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History



On 7/9/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


On the track, I'm sure that you're a real tosser.


Just thought I'd chip in here to stir a bit :)

Filming corporate video tomorrow for one of my clients who are holding
an annual conference with morning seminars. In the afternoon, the 60 odd
delegates will get some track time, which we can film also. Track time?
Yup - the venue is the Porsche Experience Centre at Silverstone, with
the race circuit just feet away hosting a Le Mans series this weekend
IIRC. The other cameraman and me will be having a go in either a Cayman
or a Boxster :) I told him shiny side up please.

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Waller
Its just a matter of finding a small enough, twisty enough track and/or 
racing in the rain. One of my regional races, way back when, was at 
Waterford Hills, Michigan - named by Stirling Moss as one of the best small 
tracks he'd ever seen.


I was driving a 72 Pinto that competed in the under 2.0 L Trans Am. For the 
feature race, run in the rain, I outran several higher horsepower race cars 
and finished ahead of them. They were all over the track in the rain.


Kenneth Waller
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From: "John Francis" 

Subject: Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History



On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:37:21PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2011-09-07 22:39, Anthony Farr wrote:

>But
>they were much more powerful and faster in a straight line.  Through
>the bendy bits they really were "mobile chicanes".

Several run groups at your typical SCCA event will have that flavor,
due to the classes that end up combined sometimes.  I think the
worst I've seen was a run group that included both GT1 monster
horsepower cars and GT-Lites (or was it GT4 back then) which handled
like roller skates but had zip for power compared to the GT1 cars.
GT1s took off like scalded cats on the straights, and got caught up
by the Lites in the twisty bits.  Lap after lap after lap.


Nothing new there.  That's exactly the scenario that unfolded around
40 years ago, except in that case the powerhouses were Ford Galaxies,
and the roller skates were Mini Coopers.



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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-09-08 1:30, John Francis wrote:


Nothing new there.  That's exactly the scenario that unfolded around
40 years ago, except in that case the powerhouses were Ford Galaxies,
and the roller skates were Mini Coopers.


It's pretty much unavoidable when the day is long enough for six or 
seven run groups and you're trying to stuff thirty or forty classes into 
them.  That doesn't make it less frustrating on track, though.


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-09-08 0:48, Larry Colen wrote:


On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

"Passable" if it's someone else's car, "throwable" if it's mine. ;-)


On the track, I'm sure that you're a real tosser.


Off track, too. :-)


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Brian Walters
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:08 AM, "Dario Bonazza"
 wrote:
> David Mann wrote:
> 
> > One of my favourites was uttered by our late Prime Minister Robert Muldoon 
> > who was in office from 1975 to 1984.
> >
> > "Any NZer who moves to Australia raises the average IQ of both countries."
> >
> > Having said that, a friend of mine is moving to Perth in October.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dave
> 
> What if Aussies go to Canada?



They freeze and are never heard of again.


Cheers

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Brian Walters
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:56 PM, "David Mann"
 wrote:
> On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> > Well, seeing as we've strayed from the Artist-on-Artist insults, one of
> > my favourite put downs was by then Australian Prime Minister Gough
> > Whitlam.
> 
> One of my favourites was uttered by our late Prime Minister Robert
> Muldoon who was in office from 1975 to 1984.
> 
> "Any NZer who moves to Australia raises the average IQ of both
> countries."
> 
> Having said that, a friend of mine is moving to Perth in October.
> 


Perth?  Is that part of Australia?...


Cheers

Brian

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza

David Mann wrote:

One of my favourites was uttered by our late Prime Minister Robert Muldoon 
who was in office from 1975 to 1984.


"Any NZer who moves to Australia raises the average IQ of both countries."

Having said that, a friend of mine is moving to Perth in October.

Cheers,
Dave


What if Aussies go to Canada?

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread David Mann
On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> Well, seeing as we've strayed from the Artist-on-Artist insults, one of
> my favourite put downs was by then Australian Prime Minister Gough
> Whitlam.

One of my favourites was uttered by our late Prime Minister Robert Muldoon who 
was in office from 1975 to 1984.

"Any NZer who moves to Australia raises the average IQ of both countries."

Having said that, a friend of mine is moving to Perth in October.

Cheers,
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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/9/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>On the track, I'm sure that you're a real tosser.

Just thought I'd chip in here to stir a bit :)

Filming corporate video tomorrow for one of my clients who are holding
an annual conference with morning seminars. In the afternoon, the 60 odd
delegates will get some track time, which we can film also. Track time?
Yup - the venue is the Porsche Experience Centre at Silverstone, with
the race circuit just feet away hosting a Le Mans series this weekend
IIRC. The other cameraman and me will be having a go in either a Cayman
or a Boxster :) I told him shiny side up please.

Then three days of editing !!

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Larry Colen

On 9/7/2011 10:30 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:37:21PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2011-09-07 22:39, Anthony Farr wrote:


But
they were much more powerful and faster in a straight line.  Through
the bendy bits they really were "mobile chicanes".

Several run groups at your typical SCCA event will have that flavor,
due to the classes that end up combined sometimes.  I think the
worst I've seen was a run group that included both GT1 monster
horsepower cars and GT-Lites (or was it GT4 back then) which handled
like roller skates but had zip for power compared to the GT1 cars.
GT1s took off like scalded cats on the straights, and got caught up
by the Lites in the twisty bits.  Lap after lap after lap.

Nothing new there.  That's exactly the scenario that unfolded around
40 years ago, except in that case the powerhouses were Ford Galaxies,
and the roller skates were Mini Coopers.


Several years ago, when I built my spec miata, one of the local clubs 
had us in the same run group as the legends cars:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_car_racing

On pavement, the Legends were running on spec tires, which were pretty 
much street tires.  They have about 140 hp, and weigh 1,300 pounds with 
driver.


The spec miatas were running on DOT legal race tires, which are stickier 
than the full on race slicks of up until not too many years ago, have a 
bit under 140 hp, and weigh 2,300 pounds with driver.  Despite having 
nearly twice the acceleration, the legends would turn about the same lap 
times as the spec miatas. The end result being that the legends cars 
would go barreling down the straights like a scalded ape often passing 
one of a pair of miatas in a hot duel, then park it in the turns so that 
any miatas unlucky enough to be behind the legend would not only end up 
split up from the driver they were dicing with, but would then lose 
their "momentum", and lose even more speed on the next straight.






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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:37:21PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:
> On 2011-09-07 22:39, Anthony Farr wrote:
> 
> >But
> >they were much more powerful and faster in a straight line.  Through
> >the bendy bits they really were "mobile chicanes".
> 
> Several run groups at your typical SCCA event will have that flavor,
> due to the classes that end up combined sometimes.  I think the
> worst I've seen was a run group that included both GT1 monster
> horsepower cars and GT-Lites (or was it GT4 back then) which handled
> like roller skates but had zip for power compared to the GT1 cars.
> GT1s took off like scalded cats on the straights, and got caught up
> by the Lites in the twisty bits.  Lap after lap after lap.

Nothing new there.  That's exactly the scenario that unfolded around
40 years ago, except in that case the powerhouses were Ford Galaxies,
and the roller skates were Mini Coopers.


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

> On 2011-09-07 20:36, Larry Colen wrote:
>> For the motorheads on the list, one of my favorite things to call a race car 
>> is "passable".
> 
> "Passable" if it's someone else's car, "throwable" if it's mine. ;-)

On the track, I'm sure that you're a real tosser.

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Christine Aguila
I watched a special on the great violin players.  They hate the line, "wow, you 
must have a very good violin."  Cheers, Christine


On Sep 7, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> I still like "Oh, you must have a very good camera."
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> They just don't insult anymore like these from the good old days ...
>> 
>> Frederic Leighton on James McNeil Whistler:
>> “My dear Whistler, you leave your pictures in such a sketchy, unfinished
>> state. Why don’t you ever finish them?”
>> 
>> James McNeil Whistler on Frederic Leighton:
>> “My dear Leighton, why do you ever begin yours?”
>> 
>> http://flavorwire.com/204165/artist-insults
>> 
>> 
>> -bmw
>> 
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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-09-07 22:39, Anthony Farr wrote:


But
they were much more powerful and faster in a straight line.  Through
the bendy bits they really were "mobile chicanes".


Several run groups at your typical SCCA event will have that flavor, due 
to the classes that end up combined sometimes.  I think the worst I've 
seen was a run group that included both GT1 monster horsepower cars and 
GT-Lites (or was it GT4 back then) which handled like roller skates but 
had zip for power compared to the GT1 cars.  GT1s took off like scalded 
cats on the straights, and got caught up by the Lites in the twisty 
bits.  Lap after lap after lap.


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-09-07 20:36, Larry Colen wrote:

For the motorheads on the list, one of my favorite things to call a race car is 
"passable".


"Passable" if it's someone else's car, "throwable" if it's mine. ;-)

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Sep 7, 2011, at 14:33 , Bob W wrote:

>> The version of the story I heard had him using "sack of potatoes", but
>> DaVinci probably wouldn't have been familiar with that New World food
>> so "bag of walnuts" makes more sense. And, yes, he was right.
>> 
>> Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
>> www.robertstech.com
>> 
> 
> recent research into his childhood sketchbooks have proved that in fact
> Leonardo da Vinci invented the potato.

I guess he was going for otatop.

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread David Savage
I love that one!

On 8 September 2011 04:21, Bob W  wrote:
> another one I like, not painters, is a story about the conductor Thomas
> Beecham during a rehearsal turned to the lady cellist and said "Madam,
> between your legs you have something which can give pleasure to thousands,
> but all you do is sit there and scratch it".
>
> B
>
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: 07 September 2011 20:48
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>> Subject: RE: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History
>>
>> One of the greatest art feuds was between Leonardo da Vinci and
>> Michelangelo. Leonardo famously said that Michelangelo's anatomical
>> pictures "look like a bag of walnuts".
>>
>> And I agree with him.
>>
>> B
>>
>> >
>> > I still like "Oh, you must have a very good camera."
>> > Regards,  Bob S.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Bruce Walker 
>> > wrote:
>> > > They just don't insult anymore like these from the good old days
>> ...
>> > >
>> > > Frederic Leighton on James McNeil Whistler:
>> > > "My dear Whistler, you leave your pictures in such a sketchy,
>> > unfinished
>> > > state. Why don't you ever finish them?"
>> > >
>> > > James McNeil Whistler on Frederic Leighton:
>> > > "My dear Leighton, why do you ever begin yours?"
>> > >
>> > > http://flavorwire.com/204165/artist-insults
>> > >
>> > >
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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Brian Walters
On Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:36 PM, "Larry Colen"
 wrote:
> For the motorheads on the list, one of my favorite things to call a race
> car is "passable".
> 


Well, seeing as we've strayed from the Artist-on-Artist insults, one of
my favourite put downs was by then Australian Prime Minister Gough
Whitlam.

While campaigning, Whitlam came under relentless haranguing by one
persistent woman repeatedly asking "But what about abortion Mister
Whitlam? How do you stand on abortion?" 

When Whitlam had had enough of this, he turned to the woman and said:

"In respect to abortion madam? Well, in your case I'd make it
retrospective!" 



Cheers

Brian

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Anthony Farr
On 8 September 2011 10:36, Larry Colen  wrote:
> For the motorheads on the list, one of my favorite things to call a race car 
> is "passable".
>

Calling a car or driver a "mobile chicane" is pretty damning, too.  I
first heard it directed at the F1 Ferraris sometime about 1980, when
turbocharging and ground-effects were simultaneously emerging as
performance enhancements.  The turbo cars had more constricted airflow
underneath because of the extra machinery, so their ground effects,
thus their corner speed, weren't as good as unturbocharged cars.  But
they were much more powerful and faster in a straight line.  Through
the bendy bits they really were "mobile chicanes".

regards, Anthony

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    to those who lack in mind and sight"
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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Anthony Farr
Two of my favourite ripostes come from the world of entertainment.

Claire Booth Luce and Dorothy Parker approached a doorway together.
Luce stepped back to let Parker go through first, saying, "Age before
beauty." Parker sailed through the doorway replying, "Pearls before
swine."

Sir Lawrence Olivier watched with amusement as Dustin Hoffman summoned
up all of his "Method", agonizingly getting into character for a
dramatic scene on the set of "Marathon Man".  At last he said, "Why
don't you just act, dear boy?"

But my favourite put down was was self administered.  Michael Curtiz,
while directing  "The Charge of the Light Brigade, called for
riderless horses to be let wander across the scene, saying, "Bring on
the empty horses."  Errol Flynn and David Niven cracked up laughing at
his awkward English.
Curtiz responded, "You people think I know f*** nothing, but I tell
you, I know f***all!"

regards, Anthony

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    to those who lack in mind and sight"
                                               (Anon)



On 8 September 2011 05:11, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> They just don't insult anymore like these from the good old days ...
>
> Frederic Leighton on James McNeil Whistler:
> “My dear Whistler, you leave your pictures in such a sketchy, unfinished
> state. Why don’t you ever finish them?”
>
> James McNeil Whistler on Frederic Leighton:
> “My dear Leighton, why do you ever begin yours?”
>
> http://flavorwire.com/204165/artist-insults
>
>
> -bmw
>

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Mark Roberts
There's an excellent one from the 2005 PDML Quotations List:

"For those who still think that the marketplace should determine what
is good art, I have just two words: Andy Warhol."
— Bob Blakely 

http://www.robertstech.com/quot2005.htm


 
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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Larry Colen
For the motorheads on the list, one of my favorite things to call a race car is 
"passable".


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Eactivist
#7 is great -- “I wouldn’t have noticed it  except that it was so big.”

But that one is good too, Bob.  Heh.

Marnie the almost akaless :-)  A lot of those quotes were from  Dali, which 
is no surprise really since he made his personality as famous as his  
paintings. Dripping (sarcasm) or surrealism.  Whichever.
-

In a message  dated 9/7/2011 12:31:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
rf.sulli...@gmail.com  writes:
I still like "Oh, you must have a very good  camera."
Regards,  Bob S.  


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I guess I'm officially de-lurking...
A long time personal fave of mine -

between Cornelia Otis Skinner and G.B.S...

I don't think Shaw said "greatest"  I cribbed this from the web.. but 
you get the idea.


in the following exchange of telegrams after a revival of  Candida.

Shaw: Excellent. Greatest. ["Brilliant" is my recollection]

Skinner: Undeserving such praise.

Shaw: I meant the play.

Skinner: So did I.

ann

On 9/7/2011 18:19, Keith Whaley wrote:

Bob W wrote:

another one I like, not painters, is a story about the conductor Thomas
Beecham during a rehearsal turned to the lady cellist and said "Madam,
between your legs you have something which can give pleasure to
thousands,
but all you do is sit there and scratch it".

B


How long did he live after THAT comment?

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Keith Whaley

Bob W wrote:

another one I like, not painters, is a story about the conductor Thomas
Beecham during a rehearsal turned to the lady cellist and said "Madam,
between your legs you have something which can give pleasure to thousands,
but all you do is sit there and scratch it".

B


How long did he live after THAT comment?

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote:

>> Bob W wrote:
>> 
>> >One of the greatest art feuds was between Leonardo da Vinci and
>> >Michelangelo. Leonardo famously said that Michelangelo's anatomical
>> >pictures "look like a bag of walnuts".
>> >
>> >And I agree with him.
>> 
>> The version of the story I heard had him using "sack of potatoes", but
>> DaVinci probably wouldn't have been familiar with that New World food
>> so "bag of walnuts" makes more sense. And, yes, he was right.
>
>recent research into his childhood sketchbooks have proved that in fact
>Leonardo da Vinci invented the potato.

After years of trying to make chips from walnuts.
 
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RE: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Bob W
> Bob W wrote:
> 
> >One of the greatest art feuds was between Leonardo da Vinci and
> >Michelangelo. Leonardo famously said that Michelangelo's anatomical
> pictures
> >"look like a bag of walnuts".
> >
> >And I agree with him.
> 
> The version of the story I heard had him using "sack of potatoes", but
> DaVinci probably wouldn't have been familiar with that New World food
> so "bag of walnuts" makes more sense. And, yes, he was right.
> 
> Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
> www.robertstech.com
> 

recent research into his childhood sketchbooks have proved that in fact
Leonardo da Vinci invented the potato.

B


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote:

>One of the greatest art feuds was between Leonardo da Vinci and
>Michelangelo. Leonardo famously said that Michelangelo's anatomical pictures
>"look like a bag of walnuts".
>
>And I agree with him.

The version of the story I heard had him using "sack of potatoes", but
DaVinci probably wouldn't have been familiar with that New World food
so "bag of walnuts" makes more sense. And, yes, he was right.

 
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RE: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Bob W
another one I like, not painters, is a story about the conductor Thomas
Beecham during a rehearsal turned to the lady cellist and said "Madam,
between your legs you have something which can give pleasure to thousands,
but all you do is sit there and scratch it".

B

> -Original Message-
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> Subject: RE: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History
> 
> One of the greatest art feuds was between Leonardo da Vinci and
> Michelangelo. Leonardo famously said that Michelangelo's anatomical
> pictures "look like a bag of walnuts".
> 
> And I agree with him.
> 
> B
> 
> >
> > I still like "Oh, you must have a very good camera."
> > Regards,  Bob S.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Bruce Walker 
> > wrote:
> > > They just don't insult anymore like these from the good old days
> ...
> > >
> > > Frederic Leighton on James McNeil Whistler:
> > > "My dear Whistler, you leave your pictures in such a sketchy,
> > unfinished
> > > state. Why don't you ever finish them?"
> > >
> > > James McNeil Whistler on Frederic Leighton:
> > > "My dear Leighton, why do you ever begin yours?"
> > >
> > > http://flavorwire.com/204165/artist-insults
> > >
> > >
> > > -bmw
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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 03:11:24PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
> They just don't insult anymore like these from the good old days ...
> 
> Frederic Leighton on James McNeil Whistler:
> ?My dear Whistler, you leave your pictures in such a sketchy,
> unfinished state. Why don?t you ever finish them??
> 
> James McNeil Whistler on Frederic Leighton:
> ?My dear Leighton, why do you ever begin yours??

This is why Whistler is one of the group of artists, etc.,
in the Monty Python skit (Whistler, Shaw, Wilde & HRH).


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RE: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Bob W
One of the greatest art feuds was between Leonardo da Vinci and
Michelangelo. Leonardo famously said that Michelangelo's anatomical pictures
"look like a bag of walnuts".

And I agree with him.

B

> 
> I still like "Oh, you must have a very good camera."
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Bruce Walker 
> wrote:
> > They just don't insult anymore like these from the good old days ...
> >
> > Frederic Leighton on James McNeil Whistler:
> > "My dear Whistler, you leave your pictures in such a sketchy,
> unfinished
> > state. Why don't you ever finish them?"
> >
> > James McNeil Whistler on Frederic Leighton:
> > "My dear Leighton, why do you ever begin yours?"
> >
> > http://flavorwire.com/204165/artist-insults
> >
> >
> > -bmw
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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
I still like "Oh, you must have a very good camera."
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> They just don't insult anymore like these from the good old days ...
>
> Frederic Leighton on James McNeil Whistler:
> “My dear Whistler, you leave your pictures in such a sketchy, unfinished
> state. Why don’t you ever finish them?”
>
> James McNeil Whistler on Frederic Leighton:
> “My dear Leighton, why do you ever begin yours?”
>
> http://flavorwire.com/204165/artist-insults
>
>
> -bmw
>
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