Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-06-20 Thread frank theriault

I knew you guys wuz joking - or at least that you understood me.  I should
have put a little smiley after my first line to indicate such.

I understood the humour (with a "u").  :-)  (remembering the smiley this
time!)

-frank

"Daniel J. Matyola" wrote:

> We understand you.  Some of the "North Americans" were trying to use humor
> (NOT humour) to suggest that we really don't want to hear about
> "international football."
>
> frank theriault wrote:
>

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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-06-18 Thread Stan Halpin

And how about the odds on a Finals involving Senegal and the U.S.? Any
offers? Now that the weaker teams like France and Argentina are gone, it
starts to get interesting (;-)

stan

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> 
> I'll take ten dollars of that at 100:1. How about it?
> Paul
> 
> Stan Halpin wrote:
>> 
>> What odds on Senegal?
>> 
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 05:52:04 EDT
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: OT World Cup Offer
>>> 
>>> In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to offer
>>> rather
>>> generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you guys).
>>> I
>>> will give you 100-1 odds.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-06-02 Thread Lasse Karlsson

I simply can't stay away from this OT thread.

As I write this the England and Swedish teams shake hands before their
game starts. This is the first big moment in the World Cup for these
two countries. Very quiet and peaceful outside this beautiful sunny
day.
England has not beaten Sweden in 30 years.

The odd part is that the England team is managed by the Swede Svennis
Eriksson, now trying to beat his own country and fellow fotballers.

More than a thousand years ago the English fell victims to the Viking
conquest. Let's see what they can do today.

(Boy, is this a party for an ex-fotballer.)

By the way, only twice did I shoot a football game.
A lot of waiting for sudden actions that lead to nothing... Lot's of
frames wasted, unless someone else pays for the film and
developement...

Lasse
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-06-01 Thread Paul Stenquist

I'll take ten dollars of that at 100:1. How about it?
Paul

Stan Halpin wrote:
> 
> What odds on Senegal?
> 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 05:52:04 EDT
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: OT World Cup Offer
> >
> > In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to offer rather
> > generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you guys). I
> > will give you 100-1 odds.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Peter
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-06-01 Thread Stan Halpin

What odds on Senegal?

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> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 05:52:04 EDT
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> Subject: OT World Cup Offer
> 
> In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to offer rather
> generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you guys). I
> will give you 100-1 odds.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Peter
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-31 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 30/05/02 23:48:05 GMT Daylight Time, Daniel writes:

<< Not many here will notice or care. >>

So quit gassing, then.

Peter
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-30 Thread Kevin Waterson

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > You stole the name of a great sport called football (in wich you REALLY hit
> > a BALL with your FOOT).

I had thought the name football was applied originally to seperate the games between 
those,
like hockey, that were traditionally played on horse back. Soccer(football) rules 
originally
inluded handling of the ball, but not running with it. Later this rule was removed and 
a 
specialised player put in the goal who could handle the ball.

Many football codes were shunned in the 1850-80s because it pulled people away from 
more
military style sports such as archery etc.

I imagine the game today bears little resemblance to its origin.

Australia alas, shall not be there again. Football(Soccer) has not had as big an impact
here in as in other countries.

Such is life.
Kevin Waterson
Byron Bay
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-30 Thread Albano_Garcia

Shel wrote:
Calm down, Albano 


Yes, Shel I heat up a bit. The photo of little hooligan is great!
Regards

AG
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-30 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Can we assume a member of some royal Euro family?


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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-30 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 30/05/02 18:40:30 GMT Daylight Time, Albano writes:

<<  Applied the name to a sport where some guys in
 tights try to play rugby >>

LMAO

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RE: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-30 Thread Paris, Leonard

Don't hold back.  Tell us how you really feel about us "americans".

Len
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Please, you "americans"!!
You stole the name of a great sport called football (in wich you REALLY hit
a BALL with your FOOT). Applied the name to a sport where some guys in
tights try to play rugby but being not macho enough as to face the possible
damage. Called real football "soccer". Put ridiculous nicknames to the
guys-in-tights teams and call "World Cup" a league absolutely usa-only (I
know you think you are the only thing in the world, but it's not true).
Please, FOOOTBALL is FOOTBALL. What you call football is not football. It's
"man-in-tights-with-rugby-ball-and-shoulderpads-and-stupid-brand-nickname"
Real FOOTBALL is the most popular sport in the world (you know, all that
things out of your country borderlines).
Regards

AG
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-30 Thread Gary L. Murphy

On Thu, 30 May 2002 14:21:25 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Please, FOOOTBALL is FOOTBALL. What you call football is not football.

Sorry to burst your bubble. But it =is= football here. Since we don't =live= where you 
do, we can call it anything we like.




Later,
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-30 Thread Shel Belinkoff

http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/humor/socfan.html


>  The lure of the world cup
>  seems to be each that nation 
>  gets to cheer blindly for their 
>  national team and hate the 
>  other countries' teams.  

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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-30 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Calm down, Albano 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Please, you "americans"!!
> You stole the name of a great sport called football (in wich you REALLY hit
> a BALL with your FOOT). Applied the name to a sport where some guys in
> tights try to play rugby but being not macho enough as to face the possible
> damage. Called real football "soccer". Put ridiculous nicknames to the
> guys-in-tights teams and call "World Cup" a league absolutely usa-only (I
> know you think you are the only thing in the world, but it's not true).
> Please, FOOOTBALL is FOOTBALL. What you call football is not football. It's
> "man-in-tights-with-rugby-ball-and-shoulderpads-and-stupid-brand-nickname"
> Real FOOTBALL is the most popular sport in the world (you know, all that
> things out of your country borderlines).

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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-30 Thread Albano_Garcia

Please, you "americans"!!
You stole the name of a great sport called football (in wich you REALLY hit
a BALL with your FOOT). Applied the name to a sport where some guys in
tights try to play rugby but being not macho enough as to face the possible
damage. Called real football "soccer". Put ridiculous nicknames to the
guys-in-tights teams and call "World Cup" a league absolutely usa-only (I
know you think you are the only thing in the world, but it's not true).
Please, FOOOTBALL is FOOTBALL. What you call football is not football. It's
"man-in-tights-with-rugby-ball-and-shoulderpads-and-stupid-brand-nickname"
Real FOOTBALL is the most popular sport in the world (you know, all that
things out of your country borderlines).
Regards

AG
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-30 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 30/05/02 13:40:39 GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  know what football (soccer) is;  my son played on a team for several
 years, and I attended allo the games, like a good father.  He no longer
 watches it either.  I tried to watch swome of the televised games, but
 found it totally lacking in interest.  Something like (ice) hockey but
 slower, and withour the physical toughness.  The lure of the world cup
 seems to be each that nation gets to cheer blindly for their national team
 and hate the other countries' teams.  Just because something is popular
 (disposable cameras, eg) doesn't make it better than everything else.
  >>
I wish I had never mentioned this..

peter
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-30 Thread Anthony Farr

If only that were true :/

Perhaps the other regions get 4 - 6 teams into the finals, but poor Oceana
not only got only one qualifier, but that side ~then~ had to play off
against South America's highest non-qualifier which was Argentina.  So
Argentina whips Maradona into shape, he boosts the side to victory over
Australia, but soon after he is found to be (once again) full of "Bolivian
Marching Powder" (a known stimulant and performance enhancing drug) and is
(once again) booted out of the game.  Me, bitter?  No comment :/

Oceana has only twice AFAIK been represented in the World Cup, by Australia
in '74 and New Zealand sometime after that.  Every other time the rightful
qualifying nation was eliminated by another region's second chance side.
And every time this manipulation of the finals was nothing but a cynical
ploy to get a bigger audience from a region where soccer is the number one
game.

Word Cup?  Perhaps FIFA's Old Boys' Club Cup would be a better name.
Fortunately FIFA has promised to end this manipulation of the finals.  We
will see.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

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(snip)
> 4-6 teams from each group qualified to the finals that
> start this weekend. In the total there are 32 teams in the finals
> and everybody call this the World Cup. This year World Cup
> happens in Korea and Japan. This event is seem for almost the
> entire planet but the Americans.
>
> ... and, the best team is Brazil ...
>
> Regards
>
> Alex
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-30 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Daniel J. Matyola
Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer


...The lure of the world cup
> seems to be each that nation gets to cheer blindly for their
national team
> and hate the other countries' teams..

Sort of like when American hockey fans boo the Canadian national
anthem before the playoff games??

William Robb
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-29 Thread suaide

> The world cup is the true world sport competition: soccer.
> Some obscure sport No, about 5.5 million people in the

 I meant 5.5 billion people  

> world loves it. Just the 0.5 million remaining north Americans
> and some crazy people don't know anything about it.
> 
> To be true what is going to start this weekend are the finals.
> The world cup started last year with almost 200 national teams.
> They played against each other in regional groups
> (one for south america, europe, north america, africa, asia and
> oceania). 4-6 teams from each group qualified to the finals that
> start this weekend. In the total there are 32 teams in the finals
> and everybody call this the World Cup. This year World Cup
> happens in Korea and Japan. This event is seem for almost the
> entire planet but the Americans.
> 
> ... and, the best team is Brazil ...
> 
> Regards
> 
> Alex
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-29 Thread suaide

The world cup is the true world sport competition: soccer.
Some obscure sport No, about 5.5 million people in the
world loves it. Just the 0.5 million remaining north Americans
and some crazy people don't know anything about it.

To be true what is going to start this weekend are the finals.
The world cup started last year with almost 200 national teams.
They played against each other in regional groups
(one for south america, europe, north america, africa, asia and
oceania). 4-6 teams from each group qualified to the finals that
start this weekend. In the total there are 32 teams in the finals
and everybody call this the World Cup. This year World Cup
happens in Korea and Japan. This event is seem for almost the
entire planet but the Americans.

... and, the best team is Brazil ...

Regards

Alex

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Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer


> On Wednesday 29 May 2002 14:19, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > What is this "World Cup" you guys keep talking about?  Some obscure
> > sport? Dan
> Unlike the world series, this one is open to the world.
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Of Course.  A few years ago, I went to a riot and a football (soccer)
game broke out.  :0).

William Robb wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: Daniel J. Matyola
> Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer
>
> > What is this "World Cup" you guys keep talking about?  Some
> obscure sport?
>
> Please tell me you forgot the smiley.
>
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Re: Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-29 Thread David Brooks

Don't do what i did years ago on a trip to England.
Went to a 'football' match in Arsenals home stadium
playing Leeds United and i wore the Leeds scarf.We 
had to make a mad dash to the bus(Leeds won)at the 
end of the game.
So my answer would be,the one everyone else
is cheering for:)

Dave
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-Okay, someone tell me who I should cheer for!

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Re: Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-29 Thread David Brooks

And those leather straps on their heads are
not helmets.Keeps players from biteing their
ears off.Wish they had those when i was in
High School:)eh whats that,can't hear ya:)

Dave

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Now, one hundred to one really isn't fair.  I'd go 99
to one. :)

What I don't understand is why rugby isn't more
popular in the US.  If ever there was a tough-guy,
macho man sport that's it.  We make such a big deal
about football instead.  In rugby, the guys don't wear
mountains of sissy pads and they don't stop playing
when the ball-carrier gets creamed.  Just pass it off
to the next one.  Much faster game.

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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-29 Thread Debra Wilborn

--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: Debra Wilborn
> Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer
> 
> 
> > Now, one hundred to one really isn't fair.  I'd go
> 99
> > to one. :)
> >
> > What I don't understand is why rugby isn't more
> > popular in the US.  If ever there was a tough-guy,
> > macho man sport that's it.  We make such a big
> deal
> > about football instead.  In rugby, the guys don't
> wear
> > mountains of sissy pads and they don't stop
> playing
> > when the ball-carrier gets creamed.  Just pass it
> off
> > to the next one.  Much faster game.
> 
> I wonder if it has to do with the possibility of
> real injury
> being sustained by the players.
> I have long though that NFL football is a pansy
> game.
> Even CFL football is a tougher game.
> 
> William Robb
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The most emabarrassing part is the gobs of money
involved.  Like a few million bucks to air a
one-minute commercial during the Superbowl. 
Everything is so overhyped.  Example: Emmitt Smith of
the Dallas Cowboys writes a gung-ho letter to his
teammates, something like a preseason pep talk, and it
makes the front cover of the Sports section in my city
paper.  Whatever!  I'm not even in Dallas.

Have you ever watched an NFL-Europe game?  Talk about
bizzare.  The one I saw was Rhine vs. Berlin or
Stuttgart (sp?) so everyone in the stands is German. 
The game is called in German at the stadium but the
broadcast is done in English.  All the players are
Americanc and you get the impression that they're the
only Americans in town.  

The only German player I noticed was the kicker for
Rhine (I think it was Rhine.)  Don't remember his
name, but he was a RETIRED soccer player.  The guy was
playing in title matches probably before a lot of his
teammates could walk.  Now he's enjoying life after
soccer as a good place kicker.  What's that tell you
about the toughness required to play American
football?

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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Debra Wilborn
Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer


> Now, one hundred to one really isn't fair.  I'd go 99
> to one. :)
>
> What I don't understand is why rugby isn't more
> popular in the US.  If ever there was a tough-guy,
> macho man sport that's it.  We make such a big deal
> about football instead.  In rugby, the guys don't wear
> mountains of sissy pads and they don't stop playing
> when the ball-carrier gets creamed.  Just pass it off
> to the next one.  Much faster game.

I wonder if it has to do with the possibility of real injury
being sustained by the players.
I have long though that NFL football is a pansy game.
Even CFL football is a tougher game.

William Robb
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-29 Thread Debra Wilborn

Now, one hundred to one really isn't fair.  I'd go 99
to one. :)

What I don't understand is why rugby isn't more
popular in the US.  If ever there was a tough-guy,
macho man sport that's it.  We make such a big deal
about football instead.  In rugby, the guys don't wear
mountains of sissy pads and they don't stop playing
when the ball-carrier gets creamed.  Just pass it off
to the next one.  Much faster game.

Deb in TX
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-29 Thread Aaron Reynolds

I suppose I can watch the World Cup now, as the Leafs have been 
eliminated from the Stanley Cup playoffs.  :(

Okay, someone tell me who I should cheer for!

-Aaron
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Daniel J. Matyola
Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer


> What is this "World Cup" you guys keep talking about?  Some
obscure sport?

Please tell me you forgot the smiley.

William Robb
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-28 Thread Frits Wüthrich

And then my team (the Netherlands) even doesn't play at all, a big 
shame, if I may say so.

Frits J. Wüthrich

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 17:59, Cesar Matamoros II wrote:
> Not if you watched them play the Netherlands!
>
> César
>
> Łukasz Kacperczyk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 5:58 AM
>
> Isn't that too much? ;)
> Lukasz
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:52 AM
>
> In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to
> offer rather
> generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you
> guys). I
> will give you 100-1 odds.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-28 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

>(that's soccer, you guys)

Magnum have a new book out, published by Phaidon called "Magnum
Football" (that's "Magnum Soccer" in the USA). It's in the same format
as "Magnum Landscape".

Some people might describe it as a cynical plundering of their
archives to throw together a few 2nd rate photos to take advantage of
global frenzy over the 'beautiful game'. However, the book does
contain a lot of interesting and previously unpublished photos in their
own right. There are also some, notably by HC-B, which are from the same
contact sheet as his classics, which show more context, or give an
insight into what he was up to when he took the classics.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0714842362/qid%3D1022612818/026-1376086-6091602
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0714842362/qid%3D1022612920/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F0%5F1/104-3781998-8386335

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tuesday, May 28, 2002, 10:52:04 AM, you wrote:

> In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to offer rather 
> generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you guys). I
> will give you 100-1 odds. 

> Kind regards

> Peter
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RE: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-28 Thread Cesar Matamoros II

Not if you watched them play the Netherlands!

César

Łukasz Kacperczyk
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 5:58 AM

Isn't that too much? ;)
Lukasz

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:52 AM

In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to offer
rather
generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you guys).
I
will give you 100-1 odds.

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-28 Thread Albano_Garcia

Hi, Peter
I wonder how much odds you give to us?
;-P

PS 1: How is Beckham recovering?
PS 2: Greetings from Duscher


Vamos, vamos, Argentina, vamos, vamos a ganar!!
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-28 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 28/05/02 13:09:17 GMT Daylight Time, Dave writes:

<< Hey at least their team made it... which isn't too bad considering soccer
 isn't that popular over there.  I don't see NZ in the table (not
 surprising).
  >>
Might I be correct in supposing that the Kiwi view is that soccer is for 
poofs?

Having recently immersed myself in an intriguing article on the hunting scene 
and its'  
sociological impact in NZ ...now way OT.

Pete
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RE: OT World Cup Offer

2002-05-28 Thread Łukasz Kacperczyk

Isn't that too much? ;)
Lukasz

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT World Cup Offer


In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to offer
rather
generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you guys).
I
will give you 100-1 odds.

Kind regards

Peter
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