Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-06 Thread John

By that standard, National Geographic wouldn't be allowed to have a
Facebook account.

It's less than a month since the brouhaha when Facebook censored Nick
Ut's iconic "Napalm Girl" for nudity.

On 10/6/2016 11:57 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


Do Zulus see his work?
Perhaps boobs sell better elsewhere.

J

- Original Message -
From: "Alan C" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:14:02 AM
Subject: Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

In Zulu culture, especially in the rural areas, it is quite normal for women
to be bare breasted. I heard a Zulu photographer on the radio the am
bemoaning the fact that he too had been kicked off FB. He made the point
that it was irrational to judge Zulu culture by Western standards.

Alan C

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Walker
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:08 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

On 5 Oct 2016, at 19:06, Bruce Walker  wrote:



On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Steve Cottrell 
wrote:
On 3/10/16, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:


If "jump" should ever becomes a Pug subject, Bruce is set.


Not to mention tits and bums.


Best left unmentioned, I fear. I am on my second 30-day Facebook
suspension in 90 days because of them.


Do they employ a Titfinder General or do they rely on your friends and
neighbours to denounce you!


They do have some image analysis algorithms -- deeply flawed -- that
they unsuccessfully employ. These only manage to annoy legitimate
posters. Most of the time they rely on snitches (a mix of enemies, Mrs
Grundy's and self-appointed Net.Cops) to report images and links.



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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-06 Thread John

Doesn't Dave Brooks live near you?

On 10/6/2016 5:17 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Yeah: hour or two drive and over-photographed. Either one is kind of
the death knell for me, but together ...

If one or more nude figures appeared in it I could be interested.


On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 9:39 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Um, Bruce - don't you live in or near Toronto?  Therefore just an hour or
two drive to a very Iconic place I can think of... over-photographed but
hey..

ann


On 10/5/2016 9:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Bill  wrote:


On 10/5/2016 12:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


An enjoyable PUG once again, and again thank you to Brian for managing
it!

Thank you also to everyone for commenting on my Skipping shot; glad
you enjoyed it so much.

Malcolm, I struggled to find an appropriate image for this PUG too. I
stumbled upon this one while scanning through my portfolio for
something else entirely. Some still-functioning brain cells groggily
signaled me that it might be a PUG choice. So I uploaded it with a day
or two to spare. Goes to show, you just never know. :)

I have _no_ idea about Iconic Places. I don't think I've ever been to
any when I was carrying a camera.


Just post a picture of Dorrie. Her being there makes any place an iconic
place.


Bill, that's a very sweet thing to say and I'll be sure to pass that
along to her. If you're lucky she'll doodle a little caricature for
you. :)  (Dorrie's back in art school right now.)

But I still can't see the studios where we work, in an anonymous strip
mall above a bingo hall, as anything but absolutely non-iconic,
despite Dorrie's wonderfully pulchritudinous influence.




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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Right, it's not about Zulu culture.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2016, at 9:07 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps not, Jack. When everybody's topless, a few boobs in photos is
> not very interesting. :)
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> Do Zulus see his work?
>> Perhaps boobs sell better elsewhere.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Alan C" 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:14:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!
>> 
>> In Zulu culture, especially in the rural areas, it is quite normal for women
>> to be bare breasted. I heard a Zulu photographer on the radio the am
>> bemoaning the fact that he too had been kicked off FB. He made the point
>> that it was irrational to judge Zulu culture by Western standards.
>> 
>> Alan C
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bruce Walker
>> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:08 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!
>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>>> On 5 Oct 2016, at 19:06, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Steve Cottrell 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 3/10/16, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> If "jump" should ever becomes a Pug subject, Bruce is set.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not to mention tits and bums.
>>>> 
>>>> Best left unmentioned, I fear. I am on my second 30-day Facebook
>>>> suspension in 90 days because of them.
>>> 
>>> Do they employ a Titfinder General or do they rely on your friends and
>>> neighbours to denounce you!
>> 
>> They do have some image analysis algorithms -- deeply flawed -- that
>> they unsuccessfully employ. These only manage to annoy legitimate
>> posters. Most of the time they rely on snitches (a mix of enemies, Mrs
>> Grundy's and self-appointed Net.Cops) to report images and links.
>> 
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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-06 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 6 Oct 2016, at 17:04, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Sadly, not even Western standards. More like American network TV
> standards circa 1955. They claim to be sensitive to world wide
> cultures, so you'd expect a most strict interpretation, but they don't
> require women to be clad in burkas.

That's a claim that's bound to tie them in knots of cultural relativism (a 
beautifully self-refuting argument). Putting this sort of ban on nudity is not 
being very sensitive to Western European cultures, for example, where freedom 
of expression generally outweighs men's fear of women's bodies, or adherence to 
Bronze Age nomads' ideas of morality. Didn't they host a number of decapitation 
videos at one time?

Just one more reason not to use stuff like Facebook, which, like others, is in 
any case trying to monopolise and control access to the internet.

B


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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-06 Thread P.J. Alling
Actually knowing the culture of Facebook, it's more PC standards than US 
TV standards from 1950 though in some cases it's hard to tell the 
difference, in others it's not hard at all.  I guess you could call it a 
bluenose convergence, but with homosexuality thrown in.


On 10/6/2016 12:03 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Sadly, not even Western standards. More like American network TV
standards circa 1955. They claim to be sensitive to world wide
cultures, so you'd expect a most strict interpretation, but they don't
require women to be clad in burkas.

There's lots about Facebook that's irrational.


On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Alan C  wrote:

In Zulu culture, especially in the rural areas, it is quite normal for women
to be bare breasted. I heard a Zulu photographer on the radio the am
bemoaning the fact that he too had been kicked off FB. He made the point
that it was irrational to judge Zulu culture by Western standards.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Bruce Walker
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:08 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!


On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

On 5 Oct 2016, at 19:06, Bruce Walker  wrote:



On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Steve Cottrell 
wrote:
On 3/10/16, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:


If "jump" should ever becomes a Pug subject, Bruce is set.


Not to mention tits and bums.


Best left unmentioned, I fear. I am on my second 30-day Facebook
suspension in 90 days because of them.


Do they employ a Titfinder General or do they rely on your friends and
neighbours to denounce you!


They do have some image analysis algorithms -- deeply flawed -- that
they unsuccessfully employ. These only manage to annoy legitimate
posters. Most of the time they rely on snitches (a mix of enemies, Mrs
Grundy's and self-appointed Net.Cops) to report images and links.

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-06 Thread Bruce Walker
Perhaps not, Jack. When everybody's topless, a few boobs in photos is
not very interesting. :)


On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
> Do Zulus see his work?
> Perhaps boobs sell better elsewhere.
>
> J
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alan C" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:14:02 AM
> Subject: Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!
>
> In Zulu culture, especially in the rural areas, it is quite normal for women
> to be bare breasted. I heard a Zulu photographer on the radio the am
> bemoaning the fact that he too had been kicked off FB. He made the point
> that it was irrational to judge Zulu culture by Western standards.
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Walker
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:08 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> On 5 Oct 2016, at 19:06, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Steve Cottrell 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> On 3/10/16, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>>>
>>>>> If "jump" should ever becomes a Pug subject, Bruce is set.
>>>>
>>>> Not to mention tits and bums.
>>>
>>> Best left unmentioned, I fear. I am on my second 30-day Facebook
>>> suspension in 90 days because of them.
>>
>> Do they employ a Titfinder General or do they rely on your friends and
>> neighbours to denounce you!
>
> They do have some image analysis algorithms -- deeply flawed -- that
> they unsuccessfully employ. These only manage to annoy legitimate
> posters. Most of the time they rely on snitches (a mix of enemies, Mrs
> Grundy's and self-appointed Net.Cops) to report images and links.
>
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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-06 Thread Bruce Walker
Sadly, not even Western standards. More like American network TV
standards circa 1955. They claim to be sensitive to world wide
cultures, so you'd expect a most strict interpretation, but they don't
require women to be clad in burkas.

There's lots about Facebook that's irrational.


On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> In Zulu culture, especially in the rural areas, it is quite normal for women
> to be bare breasted. I heard a Zulu photographer on the radio the am
> bemoaning the fact that he too had been kicked off FB. He made the point
> that it was irrational to judge Zulu culture by Western standards.
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Bruce Walker
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:08 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>
>> On 5 Oct 2016, at 19:06, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Steve Cottrell 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> On 3/10/16, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>>>
>>>>> If "jump" should ever becomes a Pug subject, Bruce is set.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not to mention tits and bums.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best left unmentioned, I fear. I am on my second 30-day Facebook
>>> suspension in 90 days because of them.
>>
>>
>> Do they employ a Titfinder General or do they rely on your friends and
>> neighbours to denounce you!
>
>
> They do have some image analysis algorithms -- deeply flawed -- that
> they unsuccessfully employ. These only manage to annoy legitimate
> posters. Most of the time they rely on snitches (a mix of enemies, Mrs
> Grundy's and self-appointed Net.Cops) to report images and links.
>
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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-06 Thread Jack Davis

Do Zulus see his work? 
Perhaps boobs sell better elsewhere.

J

- Original Message -
From: "Alan C" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:14:02 AM
Subject: Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

In Zulu culture, especially in the rural areas, it is quite normal for women 
to be bare breasted. I heard a Zulu photographer on the radio the am 
bemoaning the fact that he too had been kicked off FB. He made the point 
that it was irrational to judge Zulu culture by Western standards.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Bruce Walker
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:08 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> On 5 Oct 2016, at 19:06, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Steve Cottrell  
>>> wrote:
>>> On 3/10/16, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>>
>>>> If "jump" should ever becomes a Pug subject, Bruce is set.
>>>
>>> Not to mention tits and bums.
>>
>> Best left unmentioned, I fear. I am on my second 30-day Facebook
>> suspension in 90 days because of them.
>
> Do they employ a Titfinder General or do they rely on your friends and 
> neighbours to denounce you!

They do have some image analysis algorithms -- deeply flawed -- that
they unsuccessfully employ. These only manage to annoy legitimate
posters. Most of the time they rely on snitches (a mix of enemies, Mrs
Grundy's and self-appointed Net.Cops) to report images and links.

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-06 Thread Alan C
In Zulu culture, especially in the rural areas, it is quite normal for women 
to be bare breasted. I heard a Zulu photographer on the radio the am 
bemoaning the fact that he too had been kicked off FB. He made the point 
that it was irrational to judge Zulu culture by Western standards.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Bruce Walker

Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:08 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

On 5 Oct 2016, at 19:06, Bruce Walker  wrote:


On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Steve Cottrell  
wrote:

On 3/10/16, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:


If "jump" should ever becomes a Pug subject, Bruce is set.


Not to mention tits and bums.


Best left unmentioned, I fear. I am on my second 30-day Facebook
suspension in 90 days because of them.


Do they employ a Titfinder General or do they rely on your friends and 
neighbours to denounce you!


They do have some image analysis algorithms -- deeply flawed -- that
they unsuccessfully employ. These only manage to annoy legitimate
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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-06 Thread Bruce Walker
I considered an iconic place in the L'Origine du monde sense but not
wanting to be suspended for 30 days from the PDML, I reconsidered.

And you're right about bingo halls being iconic. I am guilty of too
narrow thinking yet again. But I thought of another interpretation so
I believe I'm good now. :)


On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:58 PM, William Robb
 wrote:
> Bingo halls are pretty iconic actually. I'm sure you can think of something.
>
> On Wednesday, 5 October 2016, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Bill > > wrote:
>> > On 10/5/2016 12:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> >>
>> >> An enjoyable PUG once again, and again thank you to Brian for managing
>> it!
>> >>
>> >> Thank you also to everyone for commenting on my Skipping shot; glad
>> >> you enjoyed it so much.
>> >>
>> >> Malcolm, I struggled to find an appropriate image for this PUG too. I
>> >> stumbled upon this one while scanning through my portfolio for
>> >> something else entirely. Some still-functioning brain cells groggily
>> >> signaled me that it might be a PUG choice. So I uploaded it with a day
>> >> or two to spare. Goes to show, you just never know. :)
>> >>
>> >> I have _no_ idea about Iconic Places. I don't think I've ever been to
>> >> any when I was carrying a camera.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Just post a picture of Dorrie. Her being there makes any place an iconic
>> > place.
>>
>> Bill, that's a very sweet thing to say and I'll be sure to pass that
>> along to her. If you're lucky she'll doodle a little caricature for
>> you. :)  (Dorrie's back in art school right now.)
>>
>> But I still can't see the studios where we work, in an anonymous strip
>> mall above a bingo hall, as anything but absolutely non-iconic,
>> despite Dorrie's wonderfully pulchritudinous influence.
>>
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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-06 Thread Bruce Walker
Yeah: hour or two drive and over-photographed. Either one is kind of
the death knell for me, but together ...

If one or more nude figures appeared in it I could be interested.


On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 9:39 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Um, Bruce - don't you live in or near Toronto?  Therefore just an hour or
> two drive to a very Iconic place I can think of... over-photographed but
> hey..
>
> ann
>
>
> On 10/5/2016 9:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/5/2016 12:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 An enjoyable PUG once again, and again thank you to Brian for managing
 it!

 Thank you also to everyone for commenting on my Skipping shot; glad
 you enjoyed it so much.

 Malcolm, I struggled to find an appropriate image for this PUG too. I
 stumbled upon this one while scanning through my portfolio for
 something else entirely. Some still-functioning brain cells groggily
 signaled me that it might be a PUG choice. So I uploaded it with a day
 or two to spare. Goes to show, you just never know. :)

 I have _no_ idea about Iconic Places. I don't think I've ever been to
 any when I was carrying a camera.

>>> Just post a picture of Dorrie. Her being there makes any place an iconic
>>> place.
>>
>> Bill, that's a very sweet thing to say and I'll be sure to pass that
>> along to her. If you're lucky she'll doodle a little caricature for
>> you. :)  (Dorrie's back in art school right now.)
>>
>> But I still can't see the studios where we work, in an anonymous strip
>> mall above a bingo hall, as anything but absolutely non-iconic,
>> despite Dorrie's wonderfully pulchritudinous influence.
>>
>
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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-05 Thread William Robb
Bingo halls are pretty iconic actually. I'm sure you can think of something.

On Wednesday, 5 October 2016, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Bill  > wrote:
> > On 10/5/2016 12:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> >>
> >> An enjoyable PUG once again, and again thank you to Brian for managing
> it!
> >>
> >> Thank you also to everyone for commenting on my Skipping shot; glad
> >> you enjoyed it so much.
> >>
> >> Malcolm, I struggled to find an appropriate image for this PUG too. I
> >> stumbled upon this one while scanning through my portfolio for
> >> something else entirely. Some still-functioning brain cells groggily
> >> signaled me that it might be a PUG choice. So I uploaded it with a day
> >> or two to spare. Goes to show, you just never know. :)
> >>
> >> I have _no_ idea about Iconic Places. I don't think I've ever been to
> >> any when I was carrying a camera.
> >>
> >
> > Just post a picture of Dorrie. Her being there makes any place an iconic
> > place.
>
> Bill, that's a very sweet thing to say and I'll be sure to pass that
> along to her. If you're lucky she'll doodle a little caricature for
> you. :)  (Dorrie's back in art school right now.)
>
> But I still can't see the studios where we work, in an anonymous strip
> mall above a bingo hall, as anything but absolutely non-iconic,
> despite Dorrie's wonderfully pulchritudinous influence.
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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-05 Thread ann sanfedele
I'm late... Thansk for liking my Mt St Helen's shot - it was the first 
thing I thought of and dug out the print to scan... but now after


seeing the whole gallyer - which definitely is solid through and 
through, I remembered I had a balloon festival shot from the old days - 
the Albuquerque one


that would have suited as will...  Glad someone did do the balloon thing :-)

Henk, Rick and Phillip floated my boat the most this month- and Filip's 
literal interpretation gave me a giggle...


ann


On 10/3/2016 8:10 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all,

For me, this is one of the most enjoyable galleries this year with a
diverse range of interpretations.

Bruce's 'Skipping' is up to his usual high standard and is my favorite
with Matthew's 'Stairway to Nowhere', Bill's 'Flying Fortress' and Ann's
'Up Mt. St Helens - 1991' also very enjoyable.

For some unexpected interpretations of the theme, check out the
submissions by Alan, John and Jan.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-05 Thread ann sanfedele
Um, Bruce - don't you live in or near Toronto?  Therefore just an hour 
or two drive to a very Iconic place I can think of... over-photographed 
but hey..


ann


On 10/5/2016 9:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 10/5/2016 12:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

An enjoyable PUG once again, and again thank you to Brian for managing it!

Thank you also to everyone for commenting on my Skipping shot; glad
you enjoyed it so much.

Malcolm, I struggled to find an appropriate image for this PUG too. I
stumbled upon this one while scanning through my portfolio for
something else entirely. Some still-functioning brain cells groggily
signaled me that it might be a PUG choice. So I uploaded it with a day
or two to spare. Goes to show, you just never know. :)

I have _no_ idea about Iconic Places. I don't think I've ever been to
any when I was carrying a camera.


Just post a picture of Dorrie. Her being there makes any place an iconic
place.

Bill, that's a very sweet thing to say and I'll be sure to pass that
along to her. If you're lucky she'll doodle a little caricature for
you. :)  (Dorrie's back in art school right now.)

But I still can't see the studios where we work, in an anonymous strip
mall above a bingo hall, as anything but absolutely non-iconic,
despite Dorrie's wonderfully pulchritudinous influence.




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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-05 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 10/5/2016 12:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> An enjoyable PUG once again, and again thank you to Brian for managing it!
>>
>> Thank you also to everyone for commenting on my Skipping shot; glad
>> you enjoyed it so much.
>>
>> Malcolm, I struggled to find an appropriate image for this PUG too. I
>> stumbled upon this one while scanning through my portfolio for
>> something else entirely. Some still-functioning brain cells groggily
>> signaled me that it might be a PUG choice. So I uploaded it with a day
>> or two to spare. Goes to show, you just never know. :)
>>
>> I have _no_ idea about Iconic Places. I don't think I've ever been to
>> any when I was carrying a camera.
>>
>
> Just post a picture of Dorrie. Her being there makes any place an iconic
> place.

Bill, that's a very sweet thing to say and I'll be sure to pass that
along to her. If you're lucky she'll doodle a little caricature for
you. :)  (Dorrie's back in art school right now.)

But I still can't see the studios where we work, in an anonymous strip
mall above a bingo hall, as anything but absolutely non-iconic,
despite Dorrie's wonderfully pulchritudinous influence.

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-05 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> On 5 Oct 2016, at 19:06, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>> On 3/10/16, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>>
 If "jump" should ever becomes a Pug subject, Bruce is set.
>>>
>>> Not to mention tits and bums.
>>
>> Best left unmentioned, I fear. I am on my second 30-day Facebook
>> suspension in 90 days because of them.
>
> Do they employ a Titfinder General or do they rely on your friends and 
> neighbours to denounce you!

They do have some image analysis algorithms -- deeply flawed -- that
they unsuccessfully employ. These only manage to annoy legitimate
posters. Most of the time they rely on snitches (a mix of enemies, Mrs
Grundy's and self-appointed Net.Cops) to report images and links.

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-05 Thread Bill

On 10/5/2016 12:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

An enjoyable PUG once again, and again thank you to Brian for managing it!

Thank you also to everyone for commenting on my Skipping shot; glad
you enjoyed it so much.

Malcolm, I struggled to find an appropriate image for this PUG too. I
stumbled upon this one while scanning through my portfolio for
something else entirely. Some still-functioning brain cells groggily
signaled me that it might be a PUG choice. So I uploaded it with a day
or two to spare. Goes to show, you just never know. :)

I have _no_ idea about Iconic Places. I don't think I've ever been to
any when I was carrying a camera.



Just post a picture of Dorrie. Her being there makes any place an iconic 
place.



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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-05 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016, at 05:28 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> On 5 Oct 2016, at 19:06, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> > 
> >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> >> On 3/10/16, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >> 
> >>> If "jump" should ever becomes a Pug subject, Bruce is set.
> >> 
> >> Not to mention tits and bums.
> > 
> > Best left unmentioned, I fear. I am on my second 30-day Facebook
> > suspension in 90 days because of them.
> 
> Do they employ a Titfinder General or do they rely on your friends and
> neighbours to denounce you!



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RE: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-05 Thread Malcolm Smith
Bruce Walker wrote:
Sent: 05 October 2016 19:02
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

An enjoyable PUG once again, and again thank you to Brian for managing it!

Thank you also to everyone for commenting on my Skipping shot; glad you
enjoyed it so much.

Malcolm, I struggled to find an appropriate image for this PUG too. I
stumbled upon this one while scanning through my portfolio for something
else entirely. Some still-functioning brain cells groggily signaled me that
it might be a PUG choice. So I uploaded it with a day or two to spare. Goes
to show, you just never know. :)

I have _no_ idea about Iconic Places. I don't think I've ever been to any
when I was carrying a camera.


I came up with two that I thought I could submit for iconic places, until I
checked them in Lightroom and found one I took with my 'phone, and the other
has no Pentax body/lens content. It looks like a trawl through the slides
where I know they were taken by an MX or LX, as that was all I had. Other
options might stretch  the boundary of the subject, but may be my only
choice. I do like the idea of a subject each month, even if it doesn't work
to my advantage!

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-05 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 5 Oct 2016, at 19:06, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>> On 3/10/16, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> If "jump" should ever becomes a Pug subject, Bruce is set.
>> 
>> Not to mention tits and bums.
> 
> Best left unmentioned, I fear. I am on my second 30-day Facebook
> suspension in 90 days because of them.

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-05 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 3/10/16, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>If "jump" should ever becomes a Pug subject, Bruce is set.
>
> Not to mention tits and bums.

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-05 Thread Bruce Walker
An enjoyable PUG once again, and again thank you to Brian for managing it!

Thank you also to everyone for commenting on my Skipping shot; glad
you enjoyed it so much.

Malcolm, I struggled to find an appropriate image for this PUG too. I
stumbled upon this one while scanning through my portfolio for
something else entirely. Some still-functioning brain cells groggily
signaled me that it might be a PUG choice. So I uploaded it with a day
or two to spare. Goes to show, you just never know. :)

I have _no_ idea about Iconic Places. I don't think I've ever been to
any when I was carrying a camera.


On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all,
>
> For me, this is one of the most enjoyable galleries this year with a
> diverse range of interpretations.
>
> Bruce's 'Skipping' is up to his usual high standard and is my favorite
> with Matthew's 'Stairway to Nowhere', Bill's 'Flying Fortress' and Ann's
> 'Up Mt. St Helens - 1991' also very enjoyable.
>
> For some unexpected interpretations of the theme, check out the
> submissions by Alan, John and Jan.
>
> As usual you'll find the gallery here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> there).
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery, let me know.
>
> +
>
> Next up: 'Iconic Places'
>
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
> You can submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-04 Thread John

On 10/4/2016 3:16 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Brian Walters wrote:


I struggled to find a suitable image for this one, and 'Iconic Places'
is going to be another.

Really?  I though this theme would be an easy one!

Of course I found a few suitable - yesterday!

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RE: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
Brian Walters wrote:

Actually, I was referring to Iconic Places...

Bigger problem if anything. I think I have one that fits the bill - just. My
current project is taking pictures of country lanes that I photographed 12
years ago, a sort of then and now. Otherwise for 'iconic'. It's a look
through slides I took years ago.

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-04 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, Oct 4, 2016, at 06:16 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
> Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> > I struggled to find a suitable image for this one, and 'Iconic Places' 
> > is going to be another.
> Really?  I though this theme would be an easy one!
> 
> Of course I found a few suitable - yesterday!


Actually, I was referring to Iconic Places...


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RE: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
Adam Montoya wrote:

I didn't know what to post, so I followed the theme to the letter.

Good interpretation and more original than my offering. 

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2016-10-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
Brian Walters wrote:

> I struggled to find a suitable image for this one, and 'Iconic Places' 
> is going to be another.
Really?  I though this theme would be an easy one!

Of course I found a few suitable - yesterday!

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-03 Thread Adam Montoya
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Malcolm Smith 
wrote:

> Brian Walters wrote:
>
>
> I struggled to find a suitable image for this one, and 'Iconic Places' is
> going to be another.
>
> Malcolm
>

I didn't know what to post, so I followed the theme to the letter.

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-03 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016, at 11:50 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
> Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> Another excellent gallery, two that stood out for me:
> 
> Early Morning Paddock - Rick Womer
> Going Up! - Brian Walters

Thanks, Malcolm.

 
> I struggled to find a suitable image for this one, and 'Iconic Places' is
> going to be another.


Really?  I though this theme would be an easy one!


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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-03 Thread Eric Weir

> On Oct 3, 2016, at 8:10 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> G'day all,
> 
> For me, this is one of the most enjoyable galleries this year with a
> diverse range of interpretations.

Too many wonderful images to comment on. My favorites are Jack’s “Cathedral 
Ridge,” Bill’s “Flying Fortress”—my dad flew in those—Bruce’s “Skipping,” 
Igor’s “Up to the Sky,” and Joseph’s “Lunch at the Museum." 

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-03 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 3/10/16, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:

>If "jump" should ever becomes a Pug subject, Bruce is set.

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-03 Thread Jack Davis

Many well do, clever choices, but Bruce Walker's Is my favorite.
If "jump" should ever becomes a Pug subject, Bruce is set.

J 

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From: "Brian Walters" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 5:10:28 AM
Subject: October PUG - UP - is Up!

G'day all,

For me, this is one of the most enjoyable galleries this year with a
diverse range of interpretations.

Bruce's 'Skipping' is up to his usual high standard and is my favorite
with Matthew's 'Stairway to Nowhere', Bill's 'Flying Fortress' and Ann's
'Up Mt. St Helens - 1991' also very enjoyable.

For some unexpected interpretations of the theme, check out the
submissions by Alan, John and Jan.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

Next up: 'Iconic Places'

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/



Cheers

Brian

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-03 Thread Alan C
A fine gallery as usual. I don't often comment but must say I now know that 
REMAX is international. The only hot air balloon we have ever had in 
Phalaborwa was exactly like the one in Gonz's contribution. Then, the Museum 
Lunch - what a venue - the patrons must feel like royalty.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Walters

Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 2:10 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: October PUG - UP - is Up!

G'day all,

For me, this is one of the most enjoyable galleries this year with a
diverse range of interpretations.

Bruce's 'Skipping' is up to his usual high standard and is my favorite
with Matthew's 'Stairway to Nowhere', Bill's 'Flying Fortress' and Ann's
'Up Mt. St Helens - 1991' also very enjoyable.

For some unexpected interpretations of the theme, check out the
submissions by Alan, John and Jan.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

Next up: 'Iconic Places'

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

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Cheers

Brian

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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It is indeed an enjoyable and interesting gallery!

Once again, thank you so much, Brian, for all your efforts on our behalf
and the wonderful way you gather and display the images ach month.

My favorite is Bruce Walker's "Skipping."  It is a colorful and dynamic
image with strong composition and balance.  The look on her face is the
icing on the cake.

I am also quite fond of Matthew hunt's "Stairway to Nowhere":  That is a
great composition of an interesting scene, rendered with lots of detail and
textures.  "Lunch at the Museum" by Joseph Tainter also grabs my eye and my
imagination;  it clearly and effectively depicts that lovely venue.

Overall, a really great PUG!

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Brian Walters 
wrote:

> G'day all,
>
> For me, this is one of the most enjoyable galleries this year with a
> diverse range of interpretations.
>
> Bruce's 'Skipping' is up to his usual high standard and is my favorite
> with Matthew's 'Stairway to Nowhere', Bill's 'Flying Fortress' and Ann's
> 'Up Mt. St Helens - 1991' also very enjoyable.
>
> For some unexpected interpretations of the theme, check out the
> submissions by Alan, John and Jan.
>
> As usual you'll find the gallery here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> there).
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery, let me know.
>
> +
>
> Next up: 'Iconic Places'
>
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
> You can submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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RE: October PUG - UP - is Up!

2016-10-03 Thread Malcolm Smith
Brian Walters wrote:

http://pug.komkon.org/

Another excellent gallery, two that stood out for me:

Early Morning Paddock - Rick Womer
Going Up! - Brian Walters

I struggled to find a suitable image for this one, and 'Iconic Places' is
going to be another.

Malcolm 


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