Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-20 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 19:49:03 +0100, Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Frank,
 
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
 
 my first thought was: great shoot(!) but perhaps little bit imbalanced
 to the right side(?). Of course I know it's not so easy to aim the
 camera straight at someone unknown in the proximity but it makes me
 wonder if it was your intention?
 
 Nevertheless, the more I'm looking at your picture the merrier it looks
 to me. Very expressive shot.
 
 I hope you'll understand me right, because my English is becoming
 horrible when I'd like to say something non-trivial. :-(
 
 Cheers,
 
 Bedo.
 

Hi,

First, thanks so much for your comment!  I really appreciate you (and
everyone else) taking the time to look at and comment on the photo.

To answer your question, I framed the shot as I did, because there
were other people in the next seat, immediately to the right (his
left) of the little boy, and I really didn't want them in the frame -
the only two humans I wanted were the man and his boy.  Since I'm not
one who every thinks, I'll crop it out later, I decided to crop in
the viewfinder (ie:  frame) that way.  And, I was actually thinking
at the time that I'd like to wait for the subway to enter into a
station,  so that we'd see the bright station whizzing by in the
windows of the door, rather than the blackness of the tunnel.

So, my framing had nothing to do with whether I thought the subjects
would see me taking their photo (although in this case, I didn't want
them to, as I didn't want the intimate moment to be disturbed). 
Normally, I don't have a problem with strangers knowing I'm taking
their photos (as many of my past PAWs will attest to).

In case you didn't see the other thread, here's the uncropped version:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3127790size=lg

which I now like a great deal more.  I think showing more door,
although it puts the subjects even more to the right of the frame,
opens up the shot, and balances them a bit better on the right.

Anyway, thanks so much for your comments!  BTW, don't apologize for
your English, you seem very articulate.  g

cheers,
frank


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Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-20 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 here's the uncropped version:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3127790size=lg

which I now like a great deal more.

Frank, I think you're picking nits here. Whichever version you pick,
it's a great photograph. One of your best.

-- 
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Photography and writing
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Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-20 Thread Peter Lacus
Frank,
In case you didn't see the other thread, here's the uncropped version:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3127790size=lg
which I now like a great deal more.  I think showing more door,
although it puts the subjects even more to the right of the frame,
opens up the shot, and balances them a bit better on the right.
I agree, this is it. The moral from this is: never crop your pictures! ;-)
Bedo.


Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-20 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:44:33 +0100, Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
.
 
 I agree, this is it. The moral from this is: never crop your pictures! ;-)
 

Thanks!  I don't know about ~never~...  vbg

cheers,
frank 


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Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-19 Thread Peter Lacus
Hello Frank,
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
my first thought was: great shoot(!) but perhaps little bit imbalanced 
to the right side(?). Of course I know it's not so easy to aim the 
camera straight at someone unknown in the proximity but it makes me 
wonder if it was your intention?

Nevertheless, the more I'm looking at your picture the merrier it looks 
to me. Very expressive shot.

I hope you'll understand me right, because my English is becoming 
horrible when I'd like to say something non-trivial. :-(

Cheers,
Bedo.


Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-18 Thread Gonz
Love it.  Nice catch.
rg
frank theriault wrote:
This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg
Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm just
fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
exposure:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look and/or comment.
cheers,
frank



Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-18 Thread Gonz

Peter J. Alling wrote:
Frank, I'm surprised at you, this is wonderfully focused.  It's a great 
composition by the way.

You have discovered Frank's problem.  He shouldn't look through the 
viewfinder, when he doesn't, they are in focus.  When he does, well

rg
frank theriault wrote:
This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg
Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm just
fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
exposure:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look and/or comment.
cheers,
frank
 





Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/2/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg

Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm just
fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
exposure:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg

Beautiful shot Frank - that's excellent. Love the framing. Print it baby
print it.




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Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-17 Thread brooksdj
 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg
 
 Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm just
 fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
 anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
 exposure:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg

Great shot Frank. I like the framing,even though you were just fixing your 
camera.LOL

Funny but when ever i take the subway,i look blurry eyed and tired to.vbgIt 
must be the
water.
Its a good thing you didi not try that with a SF-1.THAT you could hear for sure 
above a
train.LOL


Great job.  

Dave




Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-17 Thread Rick Womer
I disagree; I think the dark strip balances the image
wonderfully.  

Beautiful, Frank!

Rick

--- Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
  
  Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who
 look and/or
 comment.
 
 Wonderful shot, Frank!
 (even if it's in focus... :-)
 
 I hope you don't mind if I suggest you to crop the
 dark strip on
 the left? I find it a bit distracting.
 Thanks a lot for sharing.
 
 Ciao,
 
 Gianfranco
 
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Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-17 Thread Albano Garcia

Really like it, good moment and expressions.
Regards

Albano


--- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open. 
 vbg
 
 Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a
 photo, I'm just
 fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm
 not doing
 anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about
 f2.0, auto
 exposure:
 

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
 
 Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look
 and/or comment.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri
 Cartier-Bresson
 
 


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Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/16/2005 3:50:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg

Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look and/or comment.

cheers,
frank

Ooops, slipped up, frank, that one's really in focus. :-)

Very, very nice shot. Good capture, good composition, etc., etc., etc., a 
definite keeper.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
frank theriault wrote:
 
 
 
 This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg
 
 Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm just
 fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
 anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
 exposure:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
 
 Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look and/or comment.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

  ^^
um, considering how sharp this shot is I guess I
have to call you
you Babbitt.

I like it a lot,
and considering I'min a snit because the idiot at
my laundry put 
one of those stinky things in the dryer that I'm
allergic to and
I have to do the whole laundry over, that is high
praise :)

ann in pre tourney panic mode



Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-16 Thread Juan Buhler
Very nice candid portrait, Frank.  Did they notice, or was the noise
of the train louder than the LX?

j


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:48:27 -0500, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg
 
 Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm just
 fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
 anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
 exposure:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
 
 Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look and/or comment.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 


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Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-16 Thread Norman Baugher
Frank, hell of a job, I love this one!
Norm
frank theriault wrote:
This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg
Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm just
fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
exposure:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
 




Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-16 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg

Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm just
fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
exposure:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg

Psst. Frank.
I don't know how to tell you this but that photo's... well, sh*rp.

Nice work! I really like this shot.
Your recent kiss photo was excellent also. You have to get another
exhibit somewhere.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-16 Thread David S
I really like this Frank. They've both got that glassy eye,
tired/bored look that you see alot of on public transport. I also like
how they both seem to be looking a the same thing. The broom adds an
interesting element.

Framing and exposure are excellent, and, its in focus ;-)

Well done sir.

Dave S


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:48:27 -0500, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg
 
 Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm just
 fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
 anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
 exposure:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
 
 Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look and/or comment.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 




Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-16 Thread pnstenquist
Wow! Great shot, Frank. Wonderful expressions. Technically excellent. Good work.
Paul





Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-16 Thread Brian Walters
Frank

Nicely done - who needs a waist level finder?

What happened after the shutter went off?  Did you have an unpleasant
encounter with the broom handle???


Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney, Australia



Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg
 
 Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm
 just
 fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
 anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
 exposure:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
 
 Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look and/or
 comment.
 





Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-16 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
 
 Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look and/or
comment.

Wonderful shot, Frank!
(even if it's in focus... :-)

I hope you don't mind if I suggest you to crop the dark strip on
the left? I find it a bit distracting.
Thanks a lot for sharing.

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
Now that brings to mind a whole bunch of images I didn't need just 
before bed...

Brian Walters wrote:
Frank
Nicely done - who needs a waist level finder?
What happened after the shutter went off?  Did you have an unpleasant
encounter with the broom handle???
Cheers
Brian
+
Brian Walters
Western Sydney, Australia

Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 

This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg
Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm
just
fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
exposure:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look and/or
comment.
   



 


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Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
Frank, I'm surprised at you, this is wonderfully focused.  It's a great 
composition by the way.

frank theriault wrote:
This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg
Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm just
fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
exposure:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look and/or comment.
cheers,
frank
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-16 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:48:27 -0500, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg
 
 Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm just
 fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
 anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
 exposure:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
 
 Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look and/or comment.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

I've not received a single response to this post, but I see from the
archives that at least 5 have responded.

I can't respond to individual posts, but thanks Juan, Norm, Mark,
David and Brian, for looking and commenting.  And thanks to anyone
whose post didn't make the archives.

Sorry about the sharpness issues.  I'll try to shake the camera a bit
more next time...  vbg

BTW, I think a couple of you asked about the LX and it's noise:  I
don't think they heard anything, as the train was pretty loud.  They
never even looked over.  I have no idea what they were looking at, but
it looks like they're both looking in the same direction.  We were
just pulling into a station (snapping while the station was whizzing
by through the window was a conscious decision on my part - I wanted
~something~ to be blurry... VBG), so maybe something attracted their
attention.

Anyway, thanks again for your comments.

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson