Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-11 Thread Christine Nielsen
Mark, I wonder if there is any way to capitalize on the Boston
Marathon next week...?  Dana-Farber fields a large team of runners
every year to help them fund-raise (this is my brother's 3rd year on
the team), maybe there is a sales opportunity there somewhere?  Of
course, time is short now, but it's a thought for the future,
anyway...

-c

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

How much will it cost to do all that you would like?

Thank you again for all you hard work on our behalf.  We all appreciate it.

 A good start would be able to buy 10 books - there's a 10% discount
 for ordering 10 or more, so that brings the wholesale price down to
 29.66 each (plus shipping, so say about $30.00 each).

 So $300.00 would be a reasonable target. Any extra can go into either
 extra books to sell (at GFM for example) or possible placing a small
 ad somewhere.

 Anyone have any advertising or promotion ideas/suggestions. I thought
 of T.O.P. but Mike's cheapest ad is $300.00 for one month, which is
 way beyond our price range.  Cheap/free suggestions welcomed.

 --
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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-10 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 9 April 2011 23:20, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Anyone have any advertising or promotion ideas/suggestions. I thought
 of T.O.P. but Mike's cheapest ad is $300.00 for one month, which is
 way beyond our price range.  Cheap/free suggestions welcomed.

 Did everyone that was out of pocket with MJ a few years back receive a
 refund? It might be that a favour from him is in order?

No. Why do you think i send him cat pictures.

Dave

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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-10 Thread John Sessoms

From: William Robb


On 09/04/2011 7:44 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:



 Did everyone that was out of pocket with MJ a few years back receive a
 refund? It might be that a favour from him is in order?


Yeah, I think I paid 24 US bucks when the US$ was actually worth
something for two of his newsletters. I didn't think it was good value.
And no, Mike was not good enough to refund money to me when he bailed on
his newsletter.



Sounds like the NY Times. I got an email from them recently they're 
going to start charging a subscription for access to their web content.


My first thought was were they going to do the same thing they did last 
time, i.e. abandon the idea when they don't get enough paid subscribers?


After I'd paid for my annual subscription, they dropped the idea and 
went back to providing free content, but did not refund anything to 
those of us who had subscribed, nor provided any extra content to paid 
subscribers.


Since I didn't get anything for my paid subscription last time, I'm not 
subscribing this time. They need me more than I need them.



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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:06 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 No. Why do you think i send him cat pictures.

 Dave
OH NO, not cat pictures!  What a cruel man you are indeed!

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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-10 Thread Larry Colen
Ideas for places to advertise the book:

We should, of course, send word to Ned, and press releases to the major online 
photo blogs.

It probably would not hurt to send emails of the press releases to the dead 
tree photo mags either.

Are there any sort of pediatric oncology trade journals, professional websites 
etc?

I wonder of Pentax USA would be willing to buy some to sell at trade shows? 
They'd get a tax writeoff, a great way to show off the abilities of the gear, 
good PR etc. 
If they buy in on the concept, it could be worth it to them to have more than a 
few printed, which could greatly lower the cost per book.

Someone should set up a facebook event for selling them. Events are the easiest 
way on facebook to get the word out to a lot of people, and it seems that most 
people younger than 40 have facebook accounts, albeit with a fairly steep 
dropoff in age for folks over 50.

I wonder if anyone has the chops to make a short video to post on youtube about 
it?

We should ask Craig Shergold, who was a childhood cancer survivor, to send out 
an email asking people to buy a copy.

On Apr 9, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Jack Davis wrote:
 
 This stat has likely been related, but how many 2009/2010 books were sold?
 
 I think (hope) that the 2011 edition will generate a really
 enthusiastic response from the participants, from Pentax and from
 everyone else; the result should be more widespread awareness and
 better sales.
 
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 www.robertstech.com
 

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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-09 Thread David J Brooks
Done

Dave

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 The test copy of the 2011 PDML Photo Annual looks great. My S.O. had
 judged it the best one yet, both in terms of book design and the
 photography it contains. High praise indeed. There are very few image
 tweaks to be made and a couple of typos that slipped through the
 gauntlet. I should hear in the next day or so about the Pediatric
 Oncology Global Outreach official status with Dana-Farber and I'll
 make the necessary additions/changes to the copy in the book. We'll be
 good to go at that point. Monday? Tuesday? I want to get in under the
 wire for the Blurb sale price thing.

 I'd like to send out a few copies of the book for promotional purposes
 - to a couple web sites and print publications, some people at Pentax
 who've helped and to a couple of the physicians and scientists who are
 working on the project. My current part-time faculty position leaves
 me in no financial position to pay for this on my own as I have in
 previous years, so if any PDMLers are in a position to kick in a
 couple of dollars I've set up a donations page at
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/donate.htm to help defray the cost
 of producing and promoting the PDML Photo Annual.

 Big thanks.

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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

How much will it cost to do all that you would like?

Thank you again for all you hard work on our behalf.  We all appreciate it.

A good start would be able to buy 10 books - there's a 10% discount
for ordering 10 or more, so that brings the wholesale price down to
29.66 each (plus shipping, so say about $30.00 each).

So $300.00 would be a reasonable target. Any extra can go into either
extra books to sell (at GFM for example) or possible placing a small
ad somewhere.

Anyone have any advertising or promotion ideas/suggestions. I thought
of T.O.P. but Mike's cheapest ad is $300.00 for one month, which is
way beyond our price range.  Cheap/free suggestions welcomed.
 
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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 April 2011 23:20, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Anyone have any advertising or promotion ideas/suggestions. I thought
 of T.O.P. but Mike's cheapest ad is $300.00 for one month, which is
 way beyond our price range.  Cheap/free suggestions welcomed.

Did everyone that was out of pocket with MJ a few years back receive a
refund? It might be that a favour from him is in order?

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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-09 Thread Jack Davis
This stat has likely been related, but how many 2009/2010 books were sold?

Thanks, Mark!

Jack

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 From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
 Subject: Re: PDML Book update and expenses
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 6:20 AM
 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 
 How much will it cost to do all that you would like?
 
 Thank you again for all you hard work on our
 behalf.  We all appreciate it.
 
 A good start would be able to buy 10 books - there's a 10%
 discount
 for ordering 10 or more, so that brings the wholesale price
 down to
 29.66 each (plus shipping, so say about $30.00 each).
 
 So $300.00 would be a reasonable target. Any extra can go
 into either
 extra books to sell (at GFM for example) or possible
 placing a small
 ad somewhere.
 
 Anyone have any advertising or promotion ideas/suggestions.
 I thought
 of T.O.P. but Mike's cheapest ad is $300.00 for one month,
 which is
 way beyond our price range.  Cheap/free suggestions
 welcomed.
  
 -- 
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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis wrote:

This stat has likely been related, but how many 2009/2010 books were sold?

The total sold for the first two books is around 250, including both
direct sales through Blurb and batches I've bought and sold in person
at events like GFM. I small number, but then we've had little
promotion. I hope to achieve more promotion and a lot more sales with
the 2011 book. This is the first edition of the book that I've felt
looked like a polished, truly professional product, so I'm a lot more
comfortable blowing our collective horn about it. I'm also going to be
more persistent in asking PDMLers to  try to promote it in their own
locales ;-) I'll write up a generic press release that you can
customize for your own location.

I think (hope) that the 2011 edition will generate a really
enthusiastic response from the participants, from Pentax and from
everyone else; the result should be more widespread awareness and
better sales.
 
-- 
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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-09 Thread Jack Davis
THANKS, Mark for all you do! Looking forward to the press release.

Jack

--- On Sat, 4/9/11, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
 Subject: Re: PDML Book update and expenses
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 12:31 PM
 Jack Davis wrote:
 
 This stat has likely been related, but how many
 2009/2010 books were sold?
 
 The total sold for the first two books is around 250,
 including both
 direct sales through Blurb and batches I've bought and sold
 in person
 at events like GFM. I small number, but then we've had
 little
 promotion. I hope to achieve more promotion and a lot more
 sales with
 the 2011 book. This is the first edition of the book that
 I've felt
 looked like a polished, truly professional product, so I'm
 a lot more
 comfortable blowing our collective horn about it. I'm also
 going to be
 more persistent in asking PDMLers to  try to promote
 it in their own
 locales ;-) I'll write up a generic press release that you
 can
 customize for your own location.
 
 I think (hope) that the 2011 edition will generate a
 really
 enthusiastic response from the participants, from Pentax
 and from
 everyone else; the result should be more widespread
 awareness and
 better sales.
  
 -- 
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 www.robertstech.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-09 Thread William Robb

On 09/04/2011 7:44 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:






Did everyone that was out of pocket with MJ a few years back receive a
refund? It might be that a favour from him is in order?

Yeah, I think I paid 24 US bucks when the US$ was actually worth 
something for two of his newsletters. I didn't think it was good value.
And no, Mike was not good enough to refund money to me when he bailed on 
his newsletter.


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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-08 Thread Christine Nielsen
This transaction will appear on your bill as 'MARK'.

How appropriate!

Thanks for all of your efforts -- looking forward to seeing the book!

:)
-c



On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 The test copy of the 2011 PDML Photo Annual looks great. My S.O. had
 judged it the best one yet, both in terms of book design and the
 photography it contains. High praise indeed. There are very few image
 tweaks to be made and a couple of typos that slipped through the
 gauntlet. I should hear in the next day or so about the Pediatric
 Oncology Global Outreach official status with Dana-Farber and I'll
 make the necessary additions/changes to the copy in the book. We'll be
 good to go at that point. Monday? Tuesday? I want to get in under the
 wire for the Blurb sale price thing.

 I'd like to send out a few copies of the book for promotional purposes
 - to a couple web sites and print publications, some people at Pentax
 who've helped and to a couple of the physicians and scientists who are
 working on the project. My current part-time faculty position leaves
 me in no financial position to pay for this on my own as I have in
 previous years, so if any PDMLers are in a position to kick in a
 couple of dollars I've set up a donations page at
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/donate.htm to help defray the cost
 of producing and promoting the PDML Photo Annual.

 Big thanks.

 --
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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Christine Nielsen wrote:

This transaction will appear on your bill as 'MARK'.

How appropriate!

Now *that's* funny!
 
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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-08 Thread Brendan MacRae
Done.

Thanks again for your hard work, Mark.

-Brendan



- Original Message 
 From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Fri, April 8, 2011 11:41:01 AM
 Subject: PDML Book update and expenses
 
 The test copy of the 2011 PDML Photo Annual looks great. My S.O. had
 judged it the best one yet, both in terms of book design and the
 photography it contains. High praise indeed. There are very few image
 tweaks to be made and a couple of typos that slipped through the
 gauntlet. I should hear in the next day or so about the Pediatric
 Oncology Global Outreach official status with Dana-Farber and I'll
 make the necessary additions/changes to the copy in the book. We'll be
 good to go at that point. Monday? Tuesday? I want to get in under the
 wire for the Blurb sale price thing.
 
 I'd like to send out a few copies of the book for promotional purposes
 - to a couple web sites and print publications, some people at Pentax
 who've helped and to a couple of the physicians and scientists who are
 working on the project. My current part-time faculty position leaves
 me in no financial position to pay for this on my own as I have in
 previous years, so if any PDMLers are in a position to kick in a
 couple of dollars I've set up a donations page at
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/donate.htm to help defray the cost
 of producing and promoting the PDML Photo Annual. 
 
 Big thanks.
 
 -- 
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 www.robertstech.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-08 Thread Walter Hamler
Done. Looking forward to getting a copy even though I wasn't able to
enter a pic this year.

Walt

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 The test copy of the 2011 PDML Photo Annual looks great. My S.O. had
 judged it the best one yet, both in terms of book design and the
 photography it contains. High praise indeed. There are very few image
 tweaks to be made and a couple of typos that slipped through the
 gauntlet. I should hear in the next day or so about the Pediatric
 Oncology Global Outreach official status with Dana-Farber and I'll
 make the necessary additions/changes to the copy in the book. We'll be
 good to go at that point. Monday? Tuesday? I want to get in under the
 wire for the Blurb sale price thing.

 I'd like to send out a few copies of the book for promotional purposes
 - to a couple web sites and print publications, some people at Pentax
 who've helped and to a couple of the physicians and scientists who are
 working on the project. My current part-time faculty position leaves
 me in no financial position to pay for this on my own as I have in
 previous years, so if any PDMLers are in a position to kick in a
 couple of dollars I've set up a donations page at
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/donate.htm to help defray the cost
 of producing and promoting the PDML Photo Annual.

 Big thanks.

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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-08 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:24 -0400, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
wrote:
 Christine Nielsen wrote:
 
 This transaction will appear on your bill as 'MARK'.
 
 How appropriate!
 
 Now *that's* funny!
  
 



Speck would have been funnier.

Happy to donate and really looking forward to seeing 'The Book'.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
How much will it cost to do all that you would like?

Thank you again for all you hard work on our behalf.  We all appreciate it.

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Apr 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 The test copy of the 2011 PDML Photo Annual looks great. My S.O. had
 judged it the best one yet, both in terms of book design and the
 photography it contains. High praise indeed. There are very few image
 tweaks to be made and a couple of typos that slipped through the
 gauntlet. I should hear in the next day or so about the Pediatric
 Oncology Global Outreach official status with Dana-Farber and I'll
 make the necessary additions/changes to the copy in the book. We'll be
 good to go at that point. Monday? Tuesday? I want to get in under the
 wire for the Blurb sale price thing.

 I'd like to send out a few copies of the book for promotional purposes
 - to a couple web sites and print publications, some people at Pentax
 who've helped and to a couple of the physicians and scientists who are
 working on the project. My current part-time faculty position leaves
 me in no financial position to pay for this on my own as I have in
 previous years, so if any PDMLers are in a position to kick in a
 couple of dollars I've set up a donations page at
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/donate.htm to help defray the cost
 of producing and promoting the PDML Photo Annual.

 Big thanks.

 --
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