Re: PESO: 3 sent again
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > I think I erred and sent these three PESO's with TEXT RICH formatting. :-( > Since I can't find them in the archives, here they are again. > > Spring Riot (sent 6 days ago during our warm spell) > > https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5586142325573998018 Nice to see spring > > > Hidden Lake (originally sent 7 days ago) > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835733&size=lg This is great. Wonderful mood > > > Lakeside Bench (a follow-up trying to get comments on Hidden Lake) > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12864412&size=lg Nice Dave > > > Comments and critiques welcome > Regards, Bob S. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
If you set it up that way in the list preferences, they send you a "bounce" message when your post gets through to the list. That way you know it has been received. I like the crocus in bee very much, and the "bench" image has a perceptible feeling of loneliness and isolation. Dan On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > I think I erred and sent these three PESO's with TEXT RICH formatting. :-( > Since I can't find them in the archives, here they are again. > > Spring Riot (sent 6 days ago during our warm spell) > > https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5586142325573998018 > > > Hidden Lake (originally sent 7 days ago) > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835733&size=lg > > > Lakeside Bench (a follow-up trying to get comments on Hidden Lake) > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12864412&size=lg > > > Comments and critiques welcome > Regards, Bob S. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: 3 sent again
Like the bee one and the others are nice captures but they are very gloomy so again like the bee and the flowers. Hey I am so ready for nicer weather -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 8:26 AM To: PDML Subject: PESO: 3 sent again I think I erred and sent these three PESO's with TEXT RICH formatting. :-( Since I can't find them in the archives, here they are again. Spring Riot (sent 6 days ago during our warm spell) https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5586142325573998018 Hidden Lake (originally sent 7 days ago) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835733&size=lg Lakeside Bench (a follow-up trying to get comments on Hidden Lake) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12864412&size=lg Comments and critiques welcome Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: 3 sent again
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Bob Sullivan [...] > > Hidden Lake (originally sent 7 days ago) > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835733&size=lg > this one is really, really beautiful. It might be better with someone standing leaning against the bench looking from right to left, but on the other hand, maybe that would then draw too much attention away from the rest of the shot. The way the bare branches echo the pylons & the tower/crane is excellent. > > Lakeside Bench (a follow-up trying to get comments on Hidden Lake) > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12864412&size=lg > I can see what you're doing, but it needs the whole of the environment around to be really successful. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
Thanks Dave, Dan, Jeffery, and Bob, I am suffering from a bit of cabin fever myself, so the bee and yellow blooms were my attempt to cheer up the list a bit. I usually receive a bounce back post from the list, but failed to notice they were missing. A new laptop and some emails from outside the pdml got me off track somewhere, sending Rich Formatting. I really liked Hidden Lake and was somewhat surprised when nobody commented. I'm very happy to hear from you all now. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Bob W wrote: >> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of >> Bob Sullivan > [...] >> >> Hidden Lake (originally sent 7 days ago) >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835733&size=lg >> > > this one is really, really beautiful. It might be better with someone > standing leaning against the bench looking from right to left, but on the > other hand, maybe that would then draw too much attention away from the rest > of the shot. The way the bare branches echo the pylons & the tower/crane is > excellent. > >> >> Lakeside Bench (a follow-up trying to get comments on Hidden Lake) >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12864412&size=lg >> > > I can see what you're doing, but it needs the whole of the environment > around to be really successful. > > B > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
LIke the Hidden lake, especially - although I'd probably like it even more if a bit was trimmed from the left side... Also like your Waiting Wood stork,which isnt in this set... ann David J Brooks wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: I think I erred and sent these three PESO's with TEXT RICH formatting. :-( Since I can't find them in the archives, here they are again. Spring Riot (sent 6 days ago during our warm spell) https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5586142325573998018 Nice to see spring Hidden Lake (originally sent 7 days ago) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835733&size=lg This is great. Wonderful mood Lakeside Bench (a follow-up trying to get comments on Hidden Lake) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12864412&size=lg Nice Dave Comments and critiques welcome Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
On 11-03-26 9:25 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: I think I erred and sent these three PESO's with TEXT RICH formatting. :-( Since I can't find them in the archives, here they are again. Spring Riot (sent 6 days ago during our warm spell) https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5586142325573998018 Hidden Lake (originally sent 7 days ago) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835733&size=lg Lakeside Bench (a follow-up trying to get comments on Hidden Lake) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12864412&size=lg Comments and critiques welcome Regards, Bob S. Hidden Lake is my strong favourite of these; I love the mood and the light and colour is wonderful. You're so fortunate to have those croci (and bees!) already. We spotted some shoots appearing last week but the next day we got 10cm of snow. I'm hoping that as the snow melts off I'll get a shot of some half-open flowers poking through, but my timing will have to be perfect. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
Bruce, The bird bath is frozen again here. The crocci are all closed up and the bees are gone! Our warm weather was just a taste of spring to come, but still very welcome. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > On 11-03-26 9:25 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: >> >> I think I erred and sent these three PESO's with TEXT RICH formatting. >> :-( >> Since I can't find them in the archives, here they are again. >> >> Spring Riot (sent 6 days ago during our warm spell) >> >> https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5586142325573998018 >> >> >> Hidden Lake (originally sent 7 days ago) >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835733&size=lg >> >> >> Lakeside Bench (a follow-up trying to get comments on Hidden Lake) >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12864412&size=lg >> >> >> Comments and critiques welcome >> Regards, Bob S. > > Hidden Lake is my strong favourite of these; I love the mood and the light > and colour is wonderful. > > You're so fortunate to have those croci (and bees!) already. We spotted > some shoots appearing last week but the next day we got 10cm of snow. I'm > hoping that as the snow melts off I'll get a shot of some half-open flowers > poking through, but my timing will have to be perfect. > > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
On 3/26/2011 15:25, Bob Sullivan wrote: Spring Riot (sent 6 days ago during our warm spell) https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5586142325573998018 Hidden Lake (originally sent 7 days ago) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835733&size=lg Lakeside Bench (a follow-up trying to get comments on Hidden Lake) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12864412&size=lg Comments and critiques welcome Regards, Bob S. Bob, I don't care much about the first one, but I surely like the second one. The third one is the best of the bunch. It is a great photo in my eyes. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
"Bob, I don't care much about the first one, but I surely like the second one. The third one is the best of the bunch. It is a great photo in my eyes." You only say that because the second one is stunning. The first is nice but, cliche or not, I'm up to my wazoo right now in daffodil pictures. I can''t decide about #3. It's a good shot, but I am ambivalent about the bench being centered. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
On 4/6/2011 15:03, Steven Desjardins wrote: "Bob, I don't care much about the first one, but I surely like the second one. The third one is the best of the bunch. It is a great photo in my eyes." You only say that because the second one is stunning. The first is nice but, cliche or not, I'm up to my wazoo right now in daffodil pictures. I can''t decide about #3. It's a good shot, but I am ambivalent about the bench being centered. I beg to differ in opinion, Steve. I think that #3 is wonderfully non-cliche. The #2 is pretty standard if also very good. But I particularly like #3. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
Boris and Steve, Thanks for looking and your comments. Steve - there are worse things than being covered in spring flowers. :-) We're waiting for that to happen here in northern Illinois. I think it's our best time of year and those small, yellow crocus 11 days ago were the start. They are a great break after the drabness of winter. The purple crocus are showing now! Then daffodils. Boris - I do favor the 2nd shot, a happy coincidence as the sun rose over the fog. The light was so nice that I looked to squeeze another picture or two out of the scene. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 4/6/2011 15:03, Steven Desjardins wrote: >> >> "Bob, I don't care much about the first one, but I surely like the second >> one. The third one is the best of the bunch. It is a great photo in my >> eyes." >> >> You only say that because the second one is stunning. The first is >> nice but, cliche or not, I'm up to my wazoo right now in daffodil >> pictures. I can''t decide about #3. It's a good shot, but I am >> ambivalent about the bench being centered. > > I beg to differ in opinion, Steve. I think that #3 is wonderfully > non-cliche. The #2 is pretty standard if also very good. But I particularly > like #3. > > Boris > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
Hey, I can be undecided if I want. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 4/6/2011 15:03, Steven Desjardins wrote: >> >> "Bob, I don't care much about the first one, but I surely like the second >> one. The third one is the best of the bunch. It is a great photo in my >> eyes." >> >> You only say that because the second one is stunning. The first is >> nice but, cliche or not, I'm up to my wazoo right now in daffodil >> pictures. I can''t decide about #3. It's a good shot, but I am >> ambivalent about the bench being centered. > > I beg to differ in opinion, Steve. I think that #3 is wonderfully > non-cliche. The #2 is pretty standard if also very good. But I particularly > like #3. > > Boris > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > I think I erred and sent these three PESO's with TEXT RICH formatting. :-( > Since I can't find them in the archives, here they are again. > > Spring Riot (sent 6 days ago during our warm spell) > > https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5586142325573998018 > > > Hidden Lake (originally sent 7 days ago) > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835733&size=lg > > > Lakeside Bench (a follow-up trying to get comments on Hidden Lake) > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12864412&size=lg I haven't been on-list much lately, so this is the first time I've seen these. I fear that there will be many PESOs and GESOs posted over the last few weeks that I just won't have time to look at or comment on. These are wonderful, Bob, especially Hidden Lake. I echo Bob W's comments wrt that one (as he's much more articulate than me). ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
Thanks Frank. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:55 PM, frank theriault wrote: > On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: >> I think I erred and sent these three PESO's with TEXT RICH formatting. :-( >> Since I can't find them in the archives, here they are again. >> >> Spring Riot (sent 6 days ago during our warm spell) >> >> https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5586142325573998018 >> >> >> Hidden Lake (originally sent 7 days ago) >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835733&size=lg >> >> >> Lakeside Bench (a follow-up trying to get comments on Hidden Lake) >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12864412&size=lg > > I haven't been on-list much lately, so this is the first time I've > seen these. I fear that there will be many PESOs and GESOs posted > over the last few weeks that I just won't have time to look at or > comment on. > > These are wonderful, Bob, especially Hidden Lake. I echo Bob W's > comments wrt that one (as he's much more articulate than me). > > ;-) > > cheers, > frank > > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
On 4/6/2011 19:08, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris - I do favor the 2nd shot, a happy coincidence as the sun rose over the fog. The light was so nice that I looked to squeeze another picture or two out of the scene. Regards, Bob S. Most certain so, sir. But yet you chose to share with us the third image as well. Surely you did so on purpose... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > I think I erred and sent these three PESO's with TEXT RICH formatting. ?:-( > Since I can't find them in the archives, here they are again. > > Spring Riot (sent 6 days ago during our warm spell) > > https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5586142325573998018 > > > Hidden Lake (originally sent 7 days ago) > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835733&size=lg > > > Lakeside Bench (a follow-up trying to get comments on Hidden Lake) > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12864412&size=lg Hadn't seen them either. I do like the "Hidden Lake", particularly the illumination of the fog by, I assume, the rising sun (?). I also haven't been on list much of late, just dipping in and out of the digests. Not much energy to reply to many threads. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
John, Thanks for noticing. Yes the fog/lake are illuminated by sunrise + some miutes. Stay strong with the therapy. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 5:53 AM, John Sessoms wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Bob Sullivan >> wrote: >>> >>> > I think I erred and sent these three PESO's with TEXT RICH formatting. >>> > ?:-( >>> > Since I can't find them in the archives, here they are again. >>> > >>> > Spring Riot (sent 6 days ago during our warm spell) >>> > >>> > >>> > https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5586142325573998018 >>> > >>> > >>> > Hidden Lake (originally sent 7 days ago) >>> > >>> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835733&size=lg >>> > >>> > >>> > Lakeside Bench (a follow-up trying to get comments on Hidden Lake) >>> > >>> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12864412&size=lg > > Hadn't seen them either. I do like the "Hidden Lake", particularly the > illumination of the fog by, I assume, the rising sun (?). > > I also haven't been on list much of late, just dipping in and out of the > digests. Not much energy to reply to many threads. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
From: Bob Sullivan John, Thanks for noticing. Yes the fog/lake are illuminated by sunrise + some miutes. Stay strong with the therapy. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. Regards, Bob S. I certainly hope so. I'm about a third of the way through radiation. Doesn't seem to bother me that much, other than I am more tired than usual. But that may also be an effect of not getting adequate exercise. The combination of therapy & internship don't leave any time to get out into the woods and wander around. I graduate at the end of July. I'm packing a ruck, stuffing all my equipment in my car and going somewhere outdoors for at least a week. My internship mostly consists of trying to photograph babies through two year olds. That and acting as "baby wrangler" for the other photographers. For someone who never had children of of his own, I'm having surprising success interacting with them. Four weeks in with no "accidents" and I haven't dropped one yet. Nor am I having any problems getting down on their level to photograph them ... although getting back up is a different matter sometimes. 8-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3 sent again
John, As you say, down is easy. Up is another matter. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:24 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Bob Sullivan > >> John, >> Thanks for noticing. Yes the fog/lake are illuminated by sunrise + some >> miutes. >> Stay strong with the therapy. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. >> Regards, Bob S. > > I certainly hope so. I'm about a third of the way through radiation. Doesn't > seem to bother me that much, other than I am more tired than usual. > > But that may also be an effect of not getting adequate exercise. The > combination of therapy & internship don't leave any time to get out into the > woods and wander around. I graduate at the end of July. I'm packing a ruck, > stuffing all my equipment in my car and going somewhere outdoors for at > least a week. > > My internship mostly consists of trying to photograph babies through two > year olds. That and acting as "baby wrangler" for the other photographers. > For someone who never had children of of his own, I'm having surprising > success interacting with them. Four weeks in with no "accidents" and I > haven't dropped one yet. > > Nor am I having any problems getting down on their level to photograph them > ... although getting back up is a different matter sometimes. 8-D > > > > > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
