Re: PESO: Grey Warbler
Nice job! > On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:47 AM, David Mann wrote: > > A grey warbler came to visit our garden this evening. They're a very small > bird, smaller than a sparrow. And they don't really stop moving. You > usually hear them instead of seeing them (they have a wonderful song). > > These aren't amazing but they're the best I managed to get from 22 photos. > Both are very heavy crops, shot at 3200ISO so there's also a bit of noise. > > http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1108/#peso > > http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1109/#peso > > Pentax K5ii, FA*400mm f/5.6, both 1/500 at f/9.5 handheld. > > This AF with this camera/lens combination is terrible for little birds. The > only way I can get it to lock on anything but the most obvious targets is to > let it auto-select its AF point. In that case it'll focus on any old thing > and it's a lottery as to whether your subject is actually in focus. But at > least it mostly stops hunting. > > Cheers, > Dave > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Grey Warbler
On the K5 I find the AF works just fine with any of my lenses. Seldom hunts. I use single point, spot focus. With situations like the Grey Warbler you are more or less forced into MF - too much extraneous stuff in the way. Alan C On 02-Apr-21 04:46 AM, David Mann wrote: I did a bit of testing with the AF this morning, with fairly mixed results. In my frustration I had thought the K10D had been better with that lens so I tried it with both cameras. The K5ii is better but both cameras seemed to get confused at times. I can't quite put my finger on it just yet - strongly backlit subjects seem to cause some issues. They'd both focus just fine on darker / lower-contrast areas of the garden but sometimes they just wouldn't lock, often on bushy trees with small leaves. It may just be the 3D nature of the subject making things difficult. I tested both cameras with just the central point. The K5ii is definitely better at knowing which direction to move the focus. My K10D nearly found itself at the bottom of a cliff at Norfolk Island because of that. I still wish there was a focus limiter on these long lenses so when they do hunt it wouldn't take so long. Cheers, Dave On Apr 2, 2021, at 2:08 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: Looks like you did just fine! cute little guy If I were out shooting I'd try your auto-select trick - or maybe inside in low light when Ashley does something cute. the autor focus on the K-5 is pretty awful ann On 4/1/2021 3:47 AM, David Mann wrote: A grey warbler came to visit our garden this evening. They're a very small bird, smaller than a sparrow. And they don't really stop moving. You usually hear them instead of seeing them (they have a wonderful song). These aren't amazing but they're the best I managed to get from 22 photos. Both are very heavy crops, shot at 3200ISO so there's also a bit of noise. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1108/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1109/#peso Pentax K5ii, FA*400mm f/5.6, both 1/500 at f/9.5 handheld. This AF with this camera/lens combination is terrible for little birds. The only way I can get it to lock on anything but the most obvious targets is to let it auto-select its AF point. In that case it'll focus on any old thing and it's a lottery as to whether your subject is actually in focus. But at least it mostly stops hunting. Cheers, Dave -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Grey Warbler
I did a bit of testing with the AF this morning, with fairly mixed results. In my frustration I had thought the K10D had been better with that lens so I tried it with both cameras. The K5ii is better but both cameras seemed to get confused at times. I can't quite put my finger on it just yet - strongly backlit subjects seem to cause some issues. They'd both focus just fine on darker / lower-contrast areas of the garden but sometimes they just wouldn't lock, often on bushy trees with small leaves. It may just be the 3D nature of the subject making things difficult. I tested both cameras with just the central point. The K5ii is definitely better at knowing which direction to move the focus. My K10D nearly found itself at the bottom of a cliff at Norfolk Island because of that. I still wish there was a focus limiter on these long lenses so when they do hunt it wouldn't take so long. Cheers, Dave > On Apr 2, 2021, at 2:08 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > Looks like you did just fine! cute little guy If I were out shooting > I'd try your auto-select trick - or maybe inside in low light when Ashley > does something cute. the autor focus on the K-5 is pretty awful > > ann > > > On 4/1/2021 3:47 AM, David Mann wrote: >> A grey warbler came to visit our garden this evening. They're a very small >> bird, smaller than a sparrow. And they don't really stop moving. You >> usually hear them instead of seeing them (they have a wonderful song). >> >> These aren't amazing but they're the best I managed to get from 22 photos. >> Both are very heavy crops, shot at 3200ISO so there's also a bit of noise. >> >> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1108/#peso >> >> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1109/#peso >> >> Pentax K5ii, FA*400mm f/5.6, both 1/500 at f/9.5 handheld. >> >> This AF with this camera/lens combination is terrible for little birds. The >> only way I can get it to lock on anything but the most obvious targets is to >> let it auto-select its AF point. In that case it'll focus on any old thing >> and it's a lottery as to whether your subject is actually in focus. But at >> least it mostly stops hunting. >> >> Cheers, >> Dave >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > ann sanfedele photography > https://annsan.smugmug.com > https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts > https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan > https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Grey Warbler
Looks like you did just fine! cute little guy If I were out shooting I'd try your auto-select trick - or maybe inside in low light when Ashley does something cute. the autor focus on the K-5 is pretty awful ann On 4/1/2021 3:47 AM, David Mann wrote: A grey warbler came to visit our garden this evening. They're a very small bird, smaller than a sparrow. And they don't really stop moving. You usually hear them instead of seeing them (they have a wonderful song). These aren't amazing but they're the best I managed to get from 22 photos. Both are very heavy crops, shot at 3200ISO so there's also a bit of noise. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1108/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1109/#peso Pentax K5ii, FA*400mm f/5.6, both 1/500 at f/9.5 handheld. This AF with this camera/lens combination is terrible for little birds. The only way I can get it to lock on anything but the most obvious targets is to let it auto-select its AF point. In that case it'll focus on any old thing and it's a lottery as to whether your subject is actually in focus. But at least it mostly stops hunting. Cheers, Dave -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Grey Warbler
The best time to capture them is early morning before they get in the air. Once they start flying they don't sit still for long. :-) Cheers, frank David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the comments, Frank. I still remember your swallow shots... we have welcome swallows flying around some of the local parks and I'd like to try photographing them some day. Not easy because they're small and fast :) Cheers, Dave On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:54 am, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, those are beautiful! Impressive detail and sharpness. I love the little birdies (mostly what we get around here, other than waterfowl) but I don't think I've been able to do that well. Lovely light, too. Most impressive... Cheers, frank David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: This is the other bird I mentioned during the white-faced heron discussion. It's taken me a while to go through all the pics of him. He showed up while I was looking for photo opportunities with the macro lens around our cottage in Okains Bay. He stayed around while I went in to fetch something a bit longer. I was only going to post the first three but I liked the pose of the last one. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/704/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/705/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/706/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/707/#peso All shot with the K10D and FA*400mm f/5.6 handheld. Cheers, Dave “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Grey Warbler
Wow, those are beautiful! Impressive detail and sharpness. I love the little birdies (mostly what we get around here, other than waterfowl) but I don't think I've been able to do that well. Lovely light, too. Most impressive... Cheers, frank David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: This is the other bird I mentioned during the white-faced heron discussion. It's taken me a while to go through all the pics of him. He showed up while I was looking for photo opportunities with the macro lens around our cottage in Okains Bay. He stayed around while I went in to fetch something a bit longer. I was only going to post the first three but I liked the pose of the last one. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/704/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/705/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/706/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/707/#peso All shot with the K10D and FA*400mm f/5.6 handheld. Cheers, Dave “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for the comments, Frank. I still remember your swallow shots... we have welcome swallows flying around some of the local parks and I'd like to try photographing them some day. Not easy because they're small and fast :) Cheers, Dave On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:54 am, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, those are beautiful! Impressive detail and sharpness. I love the little birdies (mostly what we get around here, other than waterfowl) but I don't think I've been able to do that well. Lovely light, too. Most impressive... Cheers, frank David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: This is the other bird I mentioned during the white-faced heron discussion. It's taken me a while to go through all the pics of him. He showed up while I was looking for photo opportunities with the macro lens around our cottage in Okains Bay. He stayed around while I went in to fetch something a bit longer. I was only going to post the first three but I liked the pose of the last one. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/704/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/705/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/706/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/707/#peso All shot with the K10D and FA*400mm f/5.6 handheld. Cheers, Dave “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Cute little bird:) On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:17 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Excellent shots. They show how well the galvanizing is working too! Alan C -Original Message- From: David Mann Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:10 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Grey Warbler This is the other bird I mentioned during the white-faced heron discussion. It's taken me a while to go through all the pics of him. He showed up while I was looking for photo opportunities with the macro lens around our cottage in Okains Bay. He stayed around while I went in to fetch something a bit longer. I was only going to post the first three but I liked the pose of the last one. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/704/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/705/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/706/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/707/#peso All shot with the K10D and FA*400mm f/5.6 handheld. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Pictures of small birds are not as appreciated as they could be. There is an awful lot of effort to getting one good shot. But many times the images are not as striking as some of the more majestic fowl. Very nice job with a difficult, uncooperative subject matter. -- Bruce -- Sent from Sony Tablet S David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: This is the other bird I mentioned during the white-faced heron discussion. It's taken me a while to go through all the pics of him. He showed up while I was looking for photo opportunities with the macro lens around our cottage in Okains Bay. He stayed around while I went in to fetch something a bit longer. I was only going to post the first three but I liked the pose of the last one. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/704/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/705/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/706/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/707/#peso All shot with the K10D and FA*400mm f/5.6 handheld. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Bruce, I do agree with your comments about small birds. I like this particular species for their song. Occasionally we'll get one in our back yard but not very often. They usually flit about in the trees where the light is at its worst... I've put the four photos into a small gallery now. I decided that I don't like posting a bunch of links. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/gallery/48/#geso Cheers, Dave On Nov 12, 2013, at 7:31 am, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Pictures of small birds are not as appreciated as they could be. There is an awful lot of effort to getting one good shot. But many times the images are not as striking as some of the more majestic fowl. Very nice job with a difficult, uncooperative subject matter. -- Bruce -- Sent from Sony Tablet S David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: This is the other bird I mentioned during the white-faced heron discussion. It's taken me a while to go through all the pics of him. He showed up while I was looking for photo opportunities with the macro lens around our cottage in Okains Bay. He stayed around while I went in to fetch something a bit longer. I was only going to post the first three but I liked the pose of the last one. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/704/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/705/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/706/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/707/#peso All shot with the K10D and FA*400mm f/5.6 handheld. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Excellent shots. They show how well the galvanizing is working too! Alan C -Original Message- From: David Mann Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:10 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Grey Warbler This is the other bird I mentioned during the white-faced heron discussion. It's taken me a while to go through all the pics of him. He showed up while I was looking for photo opportunities with the macro lens around our cottage in Okains Bay. He stayed around while I went in to fetch something a bit longer. I was only going to post the first three but I liked the pose of the last one. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/704/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/705/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/706/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/707/#peso All shot with the K10D and FA*400mm f/5.6 handheld. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Fine Photo, David. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: We were visited by a grey warbler yesterday, a bird we occasionally hear in our area but don't often see (they have a very nice song). They're constantly on the move so very difficult to photograph. Usually I just stand and watch them but this time I thought I'd get the camera and take my chances. I think this is the best photo I've managed to get of one so far. http://www.multi.net.nz/grey-warbler-2/ K10D, FA*400mm f/5.6, 1/500th handheld at f/5.6, ISO 400. It's cropped to about 50% of the original area. The AF on the K10D really doesn't seem to work well with long glass, it kept annoying me by always starting to focus closer when it needed to go further away. To make it worse, this lens focuses to 2 metres and doesn't have a limiter. Probably doesn't help that I was shooting under a canopy so the AF didn't have much in the way of contrast. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Pretty little thing, and a wonderful capture of it. cheers, frank On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: We were visited by a grey warbler yesterday, a bird we occasionally hear in our area but don't often see (they have a very nice song). They're constantly on the move so very difficult to photograph. Usually I just stand and watch them but this time I thought I'd get the camera and take my chances. I think this is the best photo I've managed to get of one so far. http://www.multi.net.nz/grey-warbler-2/ K10D, FA*400mm f/5.6, 1/500th handheld at f/5.6, ISO 400. It's cropped to about 50% of the original area. The AF on the K10D really doesn't seem to work well with long glass, it kept annoying me by always starting to focus closer when it needed to go further away. To make it worse, this lens focuses to 2 metres and doesn't have a limiter. Probably doesn't help that I was shooting under a canopy so the AF didn't have much in the way of contrast. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2013, David Mann wrote: http://www.multi.net.nz/grey-warbler-2/ K10D, FA*400mm f/5.6, 1/500th handheld at f/5.6, ISO 400. It's cropped to about 50% of the original area. Nice! You got a lot of detail! Pedantry alert: did you actually crop to 50% area or 50% of linear dimensions (which would be a quarter of the area)? The AF on the K10D really doesn't seem to work well with long glass, it kept annoying me by always starting to focus closer when it needed to go further away. To make it worse, this lens focuses to 2 metres and doesn't have a limiter. Probably doesn't help that I was shooting under a canopy so the AF didn't have much in the way of contrast. Which AF mode were you using? (I'm curious because I've been seeing my own AF glitches with K-x/K-5 and I'm wondering whether there's some pattern.) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Really good results considering the conditions, Dave! On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: We were visited by a grey warbler yesterday, a bird we occasionally hear in our area but don't often see (they have a very nice song). They're constantly on the move so very difficult to photograph. Usually I just stand and watch them but this time I thought I'd get the camera and take my chances. I think this is the best photo I've managed to get of one so far. http://www.multi.net.nz/grey-warbler-2/ K10D, FA*400mm f/5.6, 1/500th handheld at f/5.6, ISO 400. It's cropped to about 50% of the original area. The AF on the K10D really doesn't seem to work well with long glass, it kept annoying me by always starting to focus closer when it needed to go further away. To make it worse, this lens focuses to 2 metres and doesn't have a limiter. Probably doesn't help that I was shooting under a canopy so the AF didn't have much in the way of contrast. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Just saw this, Dave. Not bad detail and nicely balanced shading and color in the background. Is it a heavy crop? Jack - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:46 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Grey Warbler Really good results considering the conditions, Dave! On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: We were visited by a grey warbler yesterday, a bird we occasionally hear in our area but don't often see (they have a very nice song). They're constantly on the move so very difficult to photograph. Usually I just stand and watch them but this time I thought I'd get the camera and take my chances. I think this is the best photo I've managed to get of one so far. http://www.multi.net.nz/grey-warbler-2/ K10D, FA*400mm f/5.6, 1/500th handheld at f/5.6, ISO 400. It's cropped to about 50% of the original area. The AF on the K10D really doesn't seem to work well with long glass, it kept annoying me by always starting to focus closer when it needed to go further away. To make it worse, this lens focuses to 2 metres and doesn't have a limiter. Probably doesn't help that I was shooting under a canopy so the AF didn't have much in the way of contrast. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:55 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: Pedantry alert: did you actually crop to 50% area or 50% of linear dimensions (which would be a quarter of the area)? I cropped to about 50% area... note that's just an approximation. Which AF mode were you using? (I'm curious because I've been seeing my own AF glitches with K-x/K-5 and I'm wondering whether there's some pattern.) I am always using AF-C at the moment. With a subject that moved so much I didn't really have much alternative :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013, David Mann wrote: On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:55 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: Which AF mode were you using? (I'm curious because I've been seeing my own AF glitches with K-x/K-5 and I'm wondering whether there's some pattern.) I am always using AF-C at the moment. With a subject that moved so much I didn't really have much alternative :) What I meant was, which AF points are you picking? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 27, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Just saw this, Dave. Not bad detail and nicely balanced shading and color in the background. Is it a heavy crop? Not too heavy, it's just under 40% of the original image area. The bird is a little smaller than a sparrow and was maybe 4-5 metres away. It'd be interesting if the camera recorded the focus distance in the metadata but all I have is Subject Distance Range: Distant view. Before I went to get the camera it had come down to about 2 metres from me... in good light, too :( But if I'd had the camera at that time, the AF noise might have scared it off. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 27, 2013, at 9:05 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:55 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: Pedantry alert: did you actually crop to 50% area or 50% of linear dimensions (which would be a quarter of the area)? I cropped to about 50% area... note that's just an approximation. I just got the calculator out... it's just under 40% of the original area. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 27, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: What I meant was, which AF points are you picking? I always use manual AF point selection. The few times I've tried the auto mode it's let me down. For that pic I was using the centre point, which I don't often use. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Grey Warbler
Dave, Nicely done! Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:28 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: We were visited by a grey warbler yesterday, a bird we occasionally hear in our area but don't often see (they have a very nice song). They're constantly on the move so very difficult to photograph. Usually I just stand and watch them but this time I thought I'd get the camera and take my chances. I think this is the best photo I've managed to get of one so far. http://www.multi.net.nz/grey-warbler-2/ K10D, FA*400mm f/5.6, 1/500th handheld at f/5.6, ISO 400. It's cropped to about 50% of the original area. The AF on the K10D really doesn't seem to work well with long glass, it kept annoying me by always starting to focus closer when it needed to go further away. To make it worse, this lens focuses to 2 metres and doesn't have a limiter. Probably doesn't help that I was shooting under a canopy so the AF didn't have much in the way of contrast. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Excellent catch, Dave. SBJ's in thick undergrowth are difficult subjects at the best of times. Most people wouldn't have the patience. Alan -- From: David Mann dmann...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 5:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Grey Warbler We were visited by a grey warbler yesterday, a bird we occasionally hear in our area but don't often see (they have a very nice song). They're constantly on the move so very difficult to photograph. Usually I just stand and watch them but this time I thought I'd get the camera and take my chances. I think this is the best photo I've managed to get of one so far. http://www.multi.net.nz/grey-warbler-2/ K10D, FA*400mm f/5.6, 1/500th handheld at f/5.6, ISO 400. It's cropped to about 50% of the original area. The AF on the K10D really doesn't seem to work well with long glass, it kept annoying me by always starting to focus closer when it needed to go further away. To make it worse, this lens focuses to 2 metres and doesn't have a limiter. Probably doesn't help that I was shooting under a canopy so the AF didn't have much in the way of contrast. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Dave, Nice catch! The backlighting works to make the bird the focus. And that's mighty close for a shy bird! Hope things are getting back to normal in NZ. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:08 PM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: http://www.multi.net.nz/grey-warbler/ These little guys are often heard in NZ forests but are rarely seen, and are nearly impossible to photograph. They are very small and are constantly on the move. I think this one is a juvenile. We've had a couple of them hanging about in our garden recently. I consider it quite a privilege to have them around. You can hear their song here: http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/small-forest-birds/8/1 Sorry about the noise, it's my K10D at ISO800 and I had to use the shadow/highlight tool due to the backlighting. FA*400mm f/5.6 handheld. I'll buy a K-5 tomorrow after I win tonight's lottery. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Grey Warbler
sweet birdie - doesn't look all that noisy, the background is just right on my machine - can you bring up that shadow/highlight tool again and work on her/his eye a bit? and spend the next few weeks stalking the grey-warbler between the after shocks.. ann David Mann wrote: http://www.multi.net.nz/grey-warbler/ These little guys are often heard in NZ forests but are rarely seen, and are nearly impossible to photograph. They are very small and are constantly on the move. I think this one is a juvenile. We've had a couple of them hanging about in our garden recently. I consider it quite a privilege to have them around. You can hear their song here: http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/small-forest-birds/8/1 Sorry about the noise, it's my K10D at ISO800 and I had to use the shadow/highlight tool due to the backlighting. FA*400mm f/5.6 handheld. I'll buy a K-5 tomorrow after I win tonight's lottery. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 9, 2011, at 11:40 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Dave, Nice catch! The backlighting works to make the bird the focus. And that's mighty close for a shy bird! The photo I posted yesterday is cropped a bit to remove clutter but the 400mm does get you pretty close. These birds are a bit smaller than a sparrow. I got another shot today which I may post later. I think it's slightly out of focus but the lighting looks better. I need to look at it on the computer screen to see whether it's usable. Hope things are getting back to normal in NZ. The boil water notice was lifted on Thursday and we're now using up the water that we'd treated and put into large plastic bottles. We have a 10 litre one in the kitchen to hold boiled water for drinking which we usually kept about half full, and a 20 litre one in the bathroom with bleached water for hand-washing. I must admit to some trepidation about drinking the tap water after several weeks of having to treat it. The birds will be happy now as I've re-levelled, scrubbed and refilled their swimming pool. Not sure if I mentioned that we had a heat pump installed just over a week ago after our remaining chimney had been removed. We have a gas fire that had been installed into the old open fireplace so that's now useless and will be taken out at some stage in the future. Our insurance company had to be bailed out by the government as they've used up all of their capital along with their own reinsurance. That shouldn't affect us much as EQC are covering the important stuff. I'm expecting the sewer system to take about a decade to fix. The CBD is still mostly closed, it's a mess in there. I saw a small section of it last week as there are a couple of roads open. They've been opening up a few sections to let business owners retrieve important items. And I finally caught up with a friend who lives fairly close to the epicenter. The insurance estimate to repair his house is $120,000 to $140,000. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's no good... :-( Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: I'm expecting the sewer system to take about a decade to fix. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I hasten to add that's my unqualified layman's opinion. Which is as good as any other when you're on the internet. On Apr 10, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: That's no good... :-( Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: I'm expecting the sewer system to take about a decade to fix. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 10, 2011, at 1:46 PM, David Mann wrote: I got another shot today which I may post later. I think it's slightly out of focus but the lighting looks better. I need to look at it on the computer screen to see whether it's usable. Welcome to later :) It's out of focus but I didn't have to do much for the lighting. One of these days I'll get a photo that's worthy of printing. The pic is on the same url, just scroll down. http://www.multi.net.nz/grey-warbler/ If all goes well I'll post some fantail shots later. I had a couple of amazing photo sessions with one today. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
