Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'
Thanks alan. It must be tough being a bird in winter. Not around my feeders it isn't. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Alan C" Subject: Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch' Nice. It must be tough being a bird in winter. Alan C -Original Message- From: Ken Waller Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 10:51 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - 'American Goldfinch' Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 ISO http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136 Comments appreciated Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'
Thanks Jack, The males are the brightly colored ones in the summer and loose much of that color in the winter turning more into the females plumage coloring. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch' Good detail, Ken! Ann advised the winter drab down that occurres in the Michigan winters. J Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Are the very pale soft tones by design, Ken? I would have thought they would be more vivid. Especially the yellow/gold. Good detail. J - Original Message - From: "Ken Waller" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 12:51:19 PM Subject: PESO - 'American Goldfinch' Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 ISO http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136 Comments appreciated Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks ann. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" Subject: Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch' Caption : "You lookin at me?" Lovely shot, Ken ann On 2/6/2017 3:51 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 ISO http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136 Comments appreciated Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'
I am pretty sure that happens to all Goldfinches in winter. The males especially get their most colorful plumage for the breeding season, and it naturally fades later in the season. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > Ann advised the > winter drab down that occurres in > the Michigan winters. > Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Good detail, Ken! Ann advised the winter drab down that occurres in the Michigan winters. J Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > > Are the very pale soft tones by design, Ken? > I would have thought they would be more vivid. > Especially the yellow/gold. > Good detail. > > J > > - Original Message - > From: "Ken Waller" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 12:51:19 PM > Subject: PESO - 'American Goldfinch' > > Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 > ISO > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136 > > Comments appreciated > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks Paul. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch' Very nice. Paul via phone On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 ISO http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136 Comments appreciated Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for the comment Gonz Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Gonz" Subject: Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch' Excellent! On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 ISO http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136 Comments appreciated Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Didn't know that, Ann. Glad I asked. Thanks! J - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 7:25:13 PM Subject: Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch' Jack - Natures Design.. It is winter in MIchigan... Goldfinches drab down ann On 2/6/2017 6:40 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Are the very pale soft tones by design, Ken? > I would have thought they would be more vivid. > Especially the yellow/gold. > Good detail. > > J > > - Original Message - > From: "Ken Waller" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 12:51:19 PM > Subject: PESO - 'American Goldfinch' > > Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 > ISO > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136 > > Comments appreciated > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice. It must be tough being a bird in winter. Alan C -Original Message- From: Ken Waller Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 10:51 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - 'American Goldfinch' Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 ISO http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136 Comments appreciated Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Jack - Natures Design.. It is winter in MIchigan... Goldfinches drab down ann On 2/6/2017 6:40 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Are the very pale soft tones by design, Ken? I would have thought they would be more vivid. Especially the yellow/gold. Good detail. J - Original Message - From: "Ken Waller" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 12:51:19 PM Subject: PESO - 'American Goldfinch' Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 ISO http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136 Comments appreciated Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Are the very pale soft tones by design, Ken? I would have thought they would be more vivid. Especially the yellow/gold. Good detail. J - Original Message - From: "Ken Waller" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 12:51:19 PM Subject: PESO - 'American Goldfinch' Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 ISO http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136 Comments appreciated Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Caption : "You lookin at me?" Lovely shot, Ken ann On 2/6/2017 3:51 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 ISO http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136 Comments appreciated Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very nice. Paul via phone > On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 > ISO > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136 > > Comments appreciated > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Excellent! On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 > ISO > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136 > > Comments appreciated > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Come to the dark side. Some day soon you'll be wondering why you had to have that backup [x]*300mm lens and realize it's /not/ /long/ /enough/! On 8/12/2010 7:12 AM, frank theriault wrote: I'm rather obsessed with these little guys, but they're rather hard to get. Small, quick, they let me get ~almost~ close enough to shoot with 200mm, then take off. In several months, this is about the best I've gotten: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/american-goldfinch.html I need longer glass, because this just isn't sharp enough (heavily cropped). I never thought I'd hear myself say it, but I need more mm's. 300, 600, whatever. First I need more money. To get that I need a better job. I'm getting sucked into the vortex, the black hole. rrrggghhh! Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- "Here's something to think about: How come you never see a headline like 'Psychic Wins Lottery'?" --Jay Leno -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Jack. When I took that shot, I was still getting used to the camera. I'd had it less than a month and was still trying to get a feel for exposure compensation and using it a lot. It was taken at 6:42 am on May 27 -- which would have put the sun just coming over the back of the house and hitting the lower branches of the tree at that moment. Looking at the EXIF, it shows I had the compensation at +0.7. That would certainly explain the blooming, I'd say. ;-) On 1:59 PM, Jack Davis wrote: A good catch, Walter. I find I have to slightly under expose the bright yellow ones as their feathers "bloom" and lose their fine detail. The finches themselves being so small are all but impossible to meter off of. Jack --- On Fri, 8/13/10, Walter G. wrote: From: Walter G. Subject: Re: PESO - American Goldfinch To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 4:06 PM Just to follow up on my previous one... Here's the one I caught perched in the tree: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/4888903359/#/photos/walt_gilbert/4888903359/lightbox/ I shot this one with my 200mm kit lens at 800 ISO, 1/180 at f/7.1 in portrait mode. (I obviously didn't check before taking the shot.) -- http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbert http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/ http://wally-gee.deviantart.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A good catch, Walter. I find I have to slightly under expose the bright yellow ones as their feathers "bloom" and lose their fine detail. The finches themselves being so small are all but impossible to meter off of. Jack --- On Fri, 8/13/10, Walter G. wrote: > From: Walter G. > Subject: Re: PESO - American Goldfinch > To: pdml@pdml.net > Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 4:06 PM > Just to follow up on my previous > one... > > Here's the one I caught perched in the tree: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/4888903359/#/photos/walt_gilbert/4888903359/lightbox/ > > I shot this one with my 200mm kit lens at 800 ISO, 1/180 at > f/7.1 in > portrait mode. (I obviously didn't check before > taking the shot.) > > -- > http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbert > http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/ > http://wally-gee.deviantart.com/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks! I got the two-lens K-x kit -- 18-55mm and 50-200mm. They actually have a three-lens kit with a 70-300mm, but the shop didn't have one in stock, so I settled and picked up a decent Promaster 70-300mm later. Now, I'm saving up for old manual focus primes. >I can see why they are called "gold" - quite a shot. So 200mm is a kit lens >these days, huh? >-- >Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. -- http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbert http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/ http://wally-gee.deviantart.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I can see why they are called "gold" - quite a shot. So 200mm is a kit lens these days, huh? -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. "Walter G." wrote: >Just to follow up on my previous one... > >Here's the one I caught perched in the tree: > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/4888903359/#/photos/walt_gilbert/4888903359/lightbox/ > >I shot this one with my 200mm kit lens at 800 ISO, 1/180 at f/7.1 in >portrait mode. (I obviously didn't check before taking the shot.) > >-- >http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbert >http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/ >http://wally-gee.deviantart.com/ > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Just to follow up on my previous one... Here's the one I caught perched in the tree: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/4888903359/#/photos/walt_gilbert/4888903359/lightbox/ I shot this one with my 200mm kit lens at 800 ISO, 1/180 at f/7.1 in portrait mode. (I obviously didn't check before taking the shot.) -- http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbert http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/ http://wally-gee.deviantart.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've managed to have decent luck catching them. This is the best in-flight one I've gotten, and I've gotten a pretty decent one sitting in a tree. On this one, I used my old manual focus Asahi Takumar 135mm prime at 200 ISO for 1/2500 in aperture priority -- not sure what the f-stop was, but I'm guessing it was 2.5 considering how soft it is. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/400117/#/photos/walt_gilbert/400117/lightbox/ I've had my best luck setting my focus on the feeder, waiting for the bird to land, leading the bird between its perched position and the feeder, adjusting the focus to a point between the bird and the feeder, and snapping as it passes through the frame, hand-held. Of course, I sit in a small recessed front porch about 15 feet from the feeder, which gives me just enough cover to avoid spooking them. I don't know if it would be practical for you to set up something like that -- maybe a small canopy of some sort -- but it does work for me. It does take practice -- catching birds in-flight has been my main focus since I got my K-x. But keep at it and I'm sure you'll start snapping them left and right. Best of luck, Walt -- http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbert http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/ http://wally-gee.deviantart.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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frank theriault wrote: I'm rather obsessed with these little guys, but they're rather hard to get. Small, quick, they let me get ~almost~ close enough to shoot with 200mm, then take off. In several months, this is about the best I've gotten: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/american-goldfinch.html I need longer glass, because this just isn't sharp enough (heavily cropped). I never thought I'd hear myself say it, but I need more mm's. 300, 600, whatever. First I need more money. To get that I need a better job. I'm getting sucked into the vortex, the black hole. rrrggghhh! Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Better than any goldfinch shots I've managed. Small, shy, fast. I've simply decided that birds ain't for me. And they know it too. Two chickadees spent 5 minutes bouncing around all the coneflowers in my backyard the other day, within a few feet of where my wife and were eating lunch. She kept saying, "go get your camera!" But I wasn't going to be fooled that easily. Those birds were just toying with me :) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks!! ;-) Jack --- On Fri, 8/13/10, frank theriault wrote: > From: frank theriault > Subject: Re: PESO - American Goldfinch > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 3:55 AM > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:41 AM, > Jack Davis > wrote: > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=524 > > Bastard! > > ;-) > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Christian Skofteland wrote: > http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bNuA-oAASYY/SXZe0S7BO8I/AB4/8FtMwrSKfss/s1600-h/black-crested_titmouse_IMG_1866.jpg Bastard! ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=524 Bastard! ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Busy background. But they are busy elusive creatures. And the background is busy in the "right" way. so I like this shot. Well done Frank. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/8/12 frank theriault : > I'm rather obsessed with these little guys, but they're rather hard to > get. Small, quick, they let me get ~almost~ close enough to shoot > with 200mm, then take off. In several months, this is about the best > I've gotten: > > http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/american-goldfinch.html > > I need longer glass, because this just isn't sharp enough (heavily > cropped). I never thought I'd hear myself say it, but I need more > mm's. 300, 600, whatever. First I need more money. To get that I > need a better job. > > I'm getting sucked into the vortex, the black hole. > > rrrggghhh! > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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This all gives me a chance to re-show off an idea that actually worked. We've gone through about a metric ton of Niger in a feeder in the past couple years. After the frustration of many photo attempts, I decided to give the feeder a natural arm for them to use as another perch. Gold finches almost never fly directly to the feeder screen. They perch everywhere they can find around it 'til they feel things appear OK and they've selected the perfect feeding spot. The House finches (red sort of gray with red toned head and neck) don't perch, but fly directly to the feeder base. I'm told they don't "perch." I went to the country and cut a stalk of Wild Mustard. Took it home and taped it to the top of the feeder. This is the result. I sorta wish the head/tail overlap hadn't happened. Forgive me for this duplication? Thanks! Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=524 --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Christian Skofteland wrote: > From: Christian Skofteland > Subject: Re: PESO - American Goldfinch > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 7:37 AM > Not a bad try frank. Soon > you'll be selling your soul for a 500/4 or 600/4 :-) > > Those little bastards move so fast it's like trying to > photograph electrons. > > The best advice I can give you is to watch them for a > while. Birds are creatures of habit and will return to > the same perch over and over again in the course of an hour > or so. Watch as they hop from one perch to the next in the > same order over and over again. Pick the perch with > the best background and angle and just focus on that > spot. Stare at it through the viewfinder ignoring the > little guys as they tease and mock you from other > perches. Then as soon as one hits the perch, fire off > as many frames as you can. That's how i got some of my > favorite shots like this one: > > http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bNuA-oAASYY/SXZe0S7BO8I/AB4/8FtMwrSKfss/s1600-h/black-crested_titmouse_IMG_1866.jpg > > Christian > - > http://404notfound.blogspot.com > http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 07:12:34AM -0400, frank theriault > wrote: > > I'm rather obsessed with these little guys, but > they're rather hard to > > get. Small, quick, they let me get ~almost~ > close enough to shoot > > with 200mm, then take off. In several months, > this is about the best > > I've gotten: > > > > http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/american-goldfinch.html > > > > I need longer glass, because this just isn't sharp > enough (heavily > > cropped). I never thought I'd hear myself say > it, but I need more > > mm's. 300, 600, whatever. First I need > more money. To get that I > > need a better job. > > > > I'm getting sucked into the vortex, the black hole. > > > > rrrggghhh! > > > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > > > cheers, > > frank > > > > -- > > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > -- > > Christian > - > http://404notfound.blogspot.com > http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - American Goldfinch
Not a bad try frank. Soon you'll be selling your soul for a 500/4 or 600/4 :-) Those little bastards move so fast it's like trying to photograph electrons. The best advice I can give you is to watch them for a while. Birds are creatures of habit and will return to the same perch over and over again in the course of an hour or so. Watch as they hop from one perch to the next in the same order over and over again. Pick the perch with the best background and angle and just focus on that spot. Stare at it through the viewfinder ignoring the little guys as they tease and mock you from other perches. Then as soon as one hits the perch, fire off as many frames as you can. That's how i got some of my favorite shots like this one: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bNuA-oAASYY/SXZe0S7BO8I/AB4/8FtMwrSKfss/s1600-h/black-crested_titmouse_IMG_1866.jpg Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 07:12:34AM -0400, frank theriault wrote: > I'm rather obsessed with these little guys, but they're rather hard to > get. Small, quick, they let me get ~almost~ close enough to shoot > with 200mm, then take off. In several months, this is about the best > I've gotten: > > http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/american-goldfinch.html > > I need longer glass, because this just isn't sharp enough (heavily > cropped). I never thought I'd hear myself say it, but I need more > mm's. 300, 600, whatever. First I need more money. To get that I > need a better job. > > I'm getting sucked into the vortex, the black hole. > > rrrggghhh! > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - American Goldfinch
On Aug 12, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Let yourself go, Frank. You may come out the other side in a lower price range demension. 8) They are tiny, fidgety, brightly feathered, difficult targets. In open sun light, their feathers absolutely glow and their small size doesn't always influence even a spot meter. Detail in such fine feathers is elusive. Only way I've gotten decent shots of them (with my max 300mm) has been by using "trap focus." I've gotten some decent shots with the A400/5.6 and manual focus, but only at or near the feeder. Paul Jack --- On Thu, 8/12/10, frank theriault wrote: From: frank theriault Subject: PESO - American Goldfinch To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 4:12 AM I'm rather obsessed with these little guys, but they're rather hard to get. Small, quick, they let me get ~almost~ close enough to shoot with 200mm, then take off. In several months, this is about the best I've gotten: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/american-goldfinch.html I need longer glass, because this just isn't sharp enough (heavily cropped). I never thought I'd hear myself say it, but I need more mm's. 300, 600, whatever. First I need more money. To get that I need a better job. I'm getting sucked into the vortex, the black hole. rrrggghhh! Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - American Goldfinch
Good jon here Frank. We have a dozen or so of these in the back yard using our sock feeders. Hard to get even with my 300 Dave On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:12 AM, frank theriault wrote: > I'm rather obsessed with these little guys, but they're rather hard to > get. Small, quick, they let me get ~almost~ close enough to shoot > with 200mm, then take off. In several months, this is about the best > I've gotten: > > http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/american-goldfinch.html > > I need longer glass, because this just isn't sharp enough (heavily > cropped). I never thought I'd hear myself say it, but I need more > mm's. 300, 600, whatever. First I need more money. To get that I > need a better job. > > I'm getting sucked into the vortex, the black hole. > > rrrggghhh! > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's still a pretty nice image, Frank. We have a lot of these birds at our thistle feeder, and they are indeed hard to capture. They never rest very long in any one place. Good work as usual, Frank. Dan On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:12 AM, frank theriault wrote: > I'm rather obsessed with these little guys, but they're rather hard to > get. Small, quick, they let me get ~almost~ close enough to shoot > with 200mm, then take off. In several months, this is about the best > I've gotten: > > http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/american-goldfinch.html > > I need longer glass, because this just isn't sharp enough (heavily > cropped). I never thought I'd hear myself say it, but I need more > mm's. 300, 600, whatever. First I need more money. To get that I > need a better job. > > I'm getting sucked into the vortex, the black hole. > > rrrggghhh! > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - American Goldfinch
From: frank theriault I'm rather obsessed with these little guys, but they're rather hard to get. Small, quick, they let me get ~almost~ close enough to shoot with 200mm, then take off. In several months, this is about the best I've gotten: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/american-goldfinch.html I need longer glass, because this just isn't sharp enough (heavily cropped). I never thought I'd hear myself say it, but I need more mm's. 300, 600, whatever. First I need more money. To get that I need a better job. I'm getting sucked into the vortex, the black hole. rrrggghhh! Doesn't matter how long your lens is, it's not long enough. If you've got a 200, you need a 300; if you've got a 400, you need a 600 ... the birds KNOW and they move just far enough away to frustrate you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - American Goldfinch
Let yourself go, Frank. You may come out the other side in a lower price range demension. 8) They are tiny, fidgety, brightly feathered, difficult targets. In open sun light, their feathers absolutely glow and their small size doesn't always influence even a spot meter. Detail in such fine feathers is elusive. Only way I've gotten decent shots of them (with my max 300mm) has been by using "trap focus." Jack --- On Thu, 8/12/10, frank theriault wrote: > From: frank theriault > Subject: PESO - American Goldfinch > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 4:12 AM > I'm rather obsessed with these little > guys, but they're rather hard to > get. Small, quick, they let me get ~almost~ close > enough to shoot > with 200mm, then take off. In several months, this is > about the best > I've gotten: > > http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/american-goldfinch.html > > I need longer glass, because this just isn't sharp enough > (heavily > cropped). I never thought I'd hear myself say it, but > I need more > mm's. 300, 600, whatever. First I need more > money. To get that I > need a better job. > > I'm getting sucked into the vortex, the black hole. > > rrrggghhh! > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - American Goldfinch
...and then you need a body with shake reduction, and a monopod... Or, there's always a bird feeder. Makes 'em hold still a bit. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 8/12/10, frank theriault wrote: > I'm rather obsessed with these little > guys, but they're rather hard to > get. Small, quick, they let me get ~almost~ close > enough to shoot > with 200mm, then take off. In several months, this is > about the best > I've gotten: > > http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/american-goldfinch.html > > I need longer glass, because this just isn't sharp enough > (heavily > cropped). I never thought I'd hear myself say it, but > I need more > mm's. 300, 600, whatever. First I need more > money. To get that I > need a better job. > > I'm getting sucked into the vortex, the black hole. > > rrrggghhh! > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.