subject:"Re\: PESO \- Shadow"

Re: Peso-Shadow Snow Goose

2017-12-26 Thread Jack Davis

Thanks for your yeah vote, Ann!
J

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> On Dec 26, 2017, at 7:24 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> nice
> ann
> 
>> On 12/26/2017 7:23 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> On a gray overcast day.
>> I have to try this due to the "unique" lighting.
>> Not sure it deserves a post, but doing so anyway.
>> Opinions please..Thanks!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18447177
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Re: Peso-Shadow Snow Goose

2017-12-26 Thread Jack Davis

Thanks for the positive vote.
So should you! (:-)
J

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> On Dec 26, 2017, at 7:21 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> It’s a very nice shot! Well worth showing.
> 
> Alan, you should write for Nature Notes. « Feather-footed through the plashy 
> fen passes the questing 
> vole » and so on
> 
> On 26 Dec 2017, at 15:28, Alan C mailto:c...@lantic.net>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Whether the weather be foul or fair, fine fare the fowl wouldst be.
> 
> Nice, Jack. That D FA obviously has fast AF. I can't do that with the Sigma.
> 
> 
> Opinions please..Thanks!
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Re: Peso-Shadow Snow Goose

2017-12-26 Thread ann sanfedele


nice
ann

On 12/26/2017 7:23 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

On a gray overcast day.
I have to try this due to the "unique" lighting.
Not sure it deserves a post, but doing so anyway.
Opinions please..Thanks!

J

https://www.photo.net/photo/18447177




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Re: Peso-Shadow Snow Goose

2017-12-26 Thread Bob W-PDML

It’s a very nice shot! Well worth showing.

Alan, you should write for Nature Notes. « Feather-footed through the plashy 
fen passes the questing 
vole » and so on

On 26 Dec 2017, at 15:28, Alan C mailto:c...@lantic.net>> 
wrote:

Whether the weather be foul or fair, fine fare the fowl wouldst be.

Nice, Jack. That D FA obviously has fast AF. I can't do that with the Sigma.


Opinions please..Thanks!

J

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Re: Peso-Shadow Snow Goose

2017-12-26 Thread Jack Davis

Thank you, Alan! I'll also forward
your compliment to the D FA. HO!
J

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> On Dec 26, 2017, at 6:27 AM, Alan C  wrote:
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> Whether the weather be foul or fair, fine fare the fowl wouldst be.
> 
> Nice, Jack. That D FA obviously has fast AF. I can't do that with the Sigma.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jack Davis
> Sent: 26 December, 2017 2:23 PM
> To: PDML
> Subject: Peso-Shadow Snow Goose
> 
> 
> On a gray overcast day.
> I have to try this due to the "unique" lighting.
> Not sure it deserves a post, but doing so anyway.
> Opinions please..Thanks!
> 
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Re: Peso-Shadow Snow Goose

2017-12-26 Thread Alan C


Whether the weather be foul or fair, fine fare the fowl wouldst be.

Nice, Jack. That D FA obviously has fast AF. I can't do that with the Sigma.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Jack Davis

Sent: 26 December, 2017 2:23 PM
To: PDML
Subject: Peso-Shadow Snow Goose


On a gray overcast day.
I have to try this due to the "unique" lighting.
Not sure it deserves a post, but doing so anyway.
Opinions please..Thanks!

J

https://www.photo.net/photo/18447177

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Re: Peso-Shadow Snow Goose

2017-12-26 Thread Jack Davis


Thanks for your "yes" vote, Dan!

J

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Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 6:10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Peso-Shadow Snow Goose

Nice, Jack.  The graceful curve of the wing feathers make the shot for me.


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On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

>
> On a gray overcast day.
> I have to try this due to the "unique" lighting.
> Not sure it deserves a post, but doing so anyway.
> Opinions please..Thanks!
>
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Re: Peso-Shadow Snow Goose

2017-12-26 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Nice, Jack.  The graceful curve of the wing feathers make the shot for me.


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On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

>
> On a gray overcast day.
> I have to try this due to the "unique" lighting.
> Not sure it deserves a post, but doing so anyway.
> Opinions please..Thanks!
>
> J
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18447177
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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

2016-08-21 Thread Jack Davis


Appreciated, David!
J

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Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 12:37:15 PM
Subject: Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

well done

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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>
> Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in between my 
> camera and
> a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the attached.
> A reluctant, but unique exhibit.
>
> K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640
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> Comments sought.
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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

2016-08-21 Thread David J Brooks

well done

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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>
> Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in between my 
> camera and
> a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the attached.
> A reluctant, but unique exhibit.
>
> K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640
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> Comments sought.
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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

2016-08-21 Thread Jack Davis

Rather vertical, huh? :-)

J

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> On Aug 21, 2016, at 4:59 AM, Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> 
> Well done. Interesting take on hummer flight.
> Jostein 
> 
> Den 20. august 2016 19.37.20 CEST, skrev Jack Davis :
>> 
>> 
>> Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in
>> between my camera and 
>> a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the
>> attached.
>> A reluctant, but unique exhibit.
>> 
>> K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640
>> 
>> Comments sought.
>> 
>> J 
>> 
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1090
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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

2016-08-21 Thread Jack Davis

Thanks, Paul!
J

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> On Aug 21, 2016, at 5:14 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Very nice!
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Jostein Øksne  wrote:
>> 
>> Well done. Interesting take on hummer flight.
>> Jostein 
>> 
>> Den 20. august 2016 19.37.20 CEST, skrev Jack Davis :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in
>>> between my camera and 
>>> a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the
>>> attached.
>>> A reluctant, but unique exhibit.
>>> 
>>> K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640
>>> 
>>> Comments sought.
>>> 
>>> J 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1090
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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

2016-08-21 Thread Paul Stenquist

Very nice!

Paul via phone

> On Aug 21, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> 
> Well done. Interesting take on hummer flight.
> Jostein 
> 
> Den 20. august 2016 19.37.20 CEST, skrev Jack Davis :
>> 
>> 
>> Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in
>> between my camera and 
>> a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the
>> attached.
>> A reluctant, but unique exhibit.
>> 
>> K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640
>> 
>> Comments sought.
>> 
>> J 
>> 
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1090
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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

2016-08-21 Thread Jostein Øksne

Well done. Interesting take on hummer flight.
Jostein 

Den 20. august 2016 19.37.20 CEST, skrev Jack Davis :
>
>
>Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in
>between my camera and 
>a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the
>attached.
>A reluctant, but unique exhibit.
>
>K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640
>
>Comments sought.
>
>J 
>
>
>http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1090

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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

2016-08-21 Thread Jack Davis

LoL!
J

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> On Aug 20, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Looks like you gave him a hell of a fright!
> 
> LOL.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jack Davis
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:37 PM
> To: PDML
> Subject: Peso-Shadow Hummer
> 
> 
> 
> Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in between my 
> camera and
> a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the attached.
> A reluctant, but unique exhibit.
> 
> K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640
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> Comments sought.
> 
> J
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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

2016-08-21 Thread Jack Davis

Thanks, Bruce! Tuff photo subject so..probably not. :)
J

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> On Aug 21, 2016, at 2:22 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Unique look, Jack. Would work well mixed into a gallery of hummer
> shots for contrast.
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in between 
>> my camera and
>> a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the attached.
>> A reluctant, but unique exhibit.
>> 
>> K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640
>> 
>> Comments sought.
>> 
>> J
>> 
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>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1090
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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer ( Larry)

2016-08-21 Thread Bruce Walker

Fixing PF is almost zero bother: it's one little checkbox under Lens
Corrections in Lr, and something similar in ACR. I often enable it by
default. Even in the silhouette version some PF is likely present.

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> The PF could probably be corrected, though not really worth the bother.
>
>
 On Aug 20, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

 Thanks, Larry.

 All with ACR.
 Bit of purple fringing.

 J

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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

2016-08-21 Thread Bruce Walker

Unique look, Jack. Would work well mixed into a gallery of hummer
shots for contrast.


On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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>
> Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in between my 
> camera and
> a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the attached.
> A reluctant, but unique exhibit.
>
> K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640
>
> Comments sought.
>
> J
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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

2016-08-20 Thread Alan C


Looks like you gave him a hell of a fright!

LOL.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:37 PM
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Subject: Peso-Shadow Hummer



Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in between 
my camera and

a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the attached.
A reluctant, but unique exhibit.

K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640

Comments sought.

J


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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer ( Larry)

2016-08-20 Thread Jack Davis

Me too, Ann! The silhouette is 
virtually complete (on my screen)
and I had no thoughts of lightening
the Hummer, but did so due to 
Larry's question re my doing so, as I
stated earlier.
The initial shot is what I wanted!
J
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> On Aug 20, 2016, at 6:55 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I wanted you to go in the other direction... :-) making the hummer's body 
> darker - a real silhouette .. and the sky deeper blue..
> 
> Like the wing as it is
> 
> ann
> 
> 
>> On 8/20/2016 9:42 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Want to add, this isn't an image I'd
>> seriously post with pride.
>> Only posting to satisfy Larry's
>> curiosity.
>> J
>> Sent
>> 
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>> 
>>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Larry.
>>> 
>>> All with ACR.
>>> Bit of purple fringing.
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1091
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Larry Colen" 
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:49:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer
>>> 
>>> Very cool.  I'd never try four that lighting, but it worked quite well.  
>>> Have you tried processing it to bring up the shadows?
>>> 
>>>> On August 20, 2016 10:37:20 AM PDT, Jack Davis  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in
>>>> between my camera and
>>>> a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the
>>>> attached.
>>>> A reluctant, but unique exhibit.
>>>> 
>>>> K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640
>>>> 
>>>> Comments sought.
>>>> 
>>>> J
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1090
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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer ( Larry)

2016-08-20 Thread Larry Colen




ann sanfedele wrote:

I wanted you to go in the other direction... :-) making the hummer's
body darker - a real silhouette .. and the sky deeper blue..


That would probably have worked better.



Like the wing as it is


Definitely.



ann


On 8/20/2016 9:42 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Want to add, this isn't an image I'd
seriously post with pride.
Only posting to satisfy Larry's
curiosity.


I've seen some pretty amazing recovery in post processing.  But I guess 
this frame just had the detail too deep down in the noise.


The PF could probably be corrected, though not really worth the bother.

   LRC


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On Aug 20, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:


Thanks, Larry.

All with ACR.
Bit of purple fringing.

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1091

- Original Message -
From: "Larry Colen" 
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Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:49:39 PM
Subject: Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

Very cool. I'd never try four that lighting, but it worked quite
well. Have you tried processing it to bring up the shadows?


On August 20, 2016 10:37:20 AM PDT, Jack Davis
 wrote:


Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in
between my camera and
a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the
attached.
A reluctant, but unique exhibit.

K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640

Comments sought.

J


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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer ( Larry)

2016-08-20 Thread ann sanfedele

I wanted you to go in the other direction... :-) making the hummer's 
body darker - a real silhouette .. and the sky deeper blue..


Like the wing as it is

ann


On 8/20/2016 9:42 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Want to add, this isn't an image I'd
seriously post with pride.
Only posting to satisfy Larry's
curiosity.
J
Sent

  my iPhone


On Aug 20, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:


Thanks, Larry.

All with ACR.
Bit of purple fringing.

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1091

- Original Message -
From: "Larry Colen" 
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Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:49:39 PM
Subject: Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

Very cool.  I'd never try four that lighting, but it worked quite well.  Have 
you tried processing it to bring up the shadows?


On August 20, 2016 10:37:20 AM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:


Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in
between my camera and
a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the
attached.
A reluctant, but unique exhibit.

K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640

Comments sought.

J


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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer ( Larry)

2016-08-20 Thread Jack Davis

Want to add, this isn't an image I'd
seriously post with pride.
Only posting to satisfy Larry's
curiosity.
J
Sent 

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> On Aug 20, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks, Larry.
> 
> All with ACR.
> Bit of purple fringing.
> 
> J
> 
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1091
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Larry Colen" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:49:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer
> 
> Very cool.  I'd never try four that lighting, but it worked quite well.  Have 
> you tried processing it to bring up the shadows?
> 
>> On August 20, 2016 10:37:20 AM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in
>> between my camera and 
>> a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the
>> attached.
>> A reluctant, but unique exhibit.
>> 
>> K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640
>> 
>> Comments sought.
>> 
>> J 
>> 
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1090
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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer ( Larry)

2016-08-20 Thread Jack Davis


Thanks, Larry.

All with ACR.
Bit of purple fringing.

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1091

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Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:49:39 PM
Subject: Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

Very cool.  I'd never try four that lighting, but it worked quite well.  Have 
you tried processing it to bring up the shadows?

On August 20, 2016 10:37:20 AM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
>
>Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in
>between my camera and 
>a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the
>attached.
>A reluctant, but unique exhibit.
>
>K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640
>
>Comments sought.
>
>J 
>
>
>http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1090

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Re: Peso-Shadow Hummer

2016-08-20 Thread Larry Colen

Very cool.  I'd never try four that lighting, but it worked quite well.  Have 
you tried processing it to bring up the shadows?

On August 20, 2016 10:37:20 AM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
>
>Was enjoying my visit to the Patio this AM when this Hummer got in
>between my camera and 
>a clear bright sky. Fired off a short burst that contained the
>attached.
>A reluctant, but unique exhibit.
>
>K-3 w/55-300, 1/8000, ISO640
>
>Comments sought.
>
>J 
>
>
>http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1090

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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-08-03 Thread Bruce Walker

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 03/08/2015 2:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Bill.
>>
>> It wasn't one of my first choices either, as I mentioned; I passed
>> over it a couple of times. But all the 4 and 5-star shots from this
>> set are in quarantine pending a magazine submission and I was looking
>> for something else I could post to keep the social media wheels
>> lubricated, both for myself and the model. (She starts to get antsy if
>> I don't supply her with new retouches now and then. :) )
>
>
> Send her my way. I could probably help her out, providing she doesn't mind
> bad pictures.

When she starts doing the travelling model gig, I'll put her in touch. :)


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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-08-03 Thread Bill


On 03/08/2015 2:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Thanks, Bill.

It wasn't one of my first choices either, as I mentioned; I passed
over it a couple of times. But all the 4 and 5-star shots from this
set are in quarantine pending a magazine submission and I was looking
for something else I could post to keep the social media wheels
lubricated, both for myself and the model. (She starts to get antsy if
I don't supply her with new retouches now and then. :) )


Send her my way. I could probably help her out, providing she doesn't 
mind bad pictures.




But it's taken on a bit of a life of its own, getting good notice on
ello and Flickr. You just never know what will take off.


On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Bill  wrote:

[...]
This is almost an aside, and should go into another post, but the image in
question is quite nice, though not one of the best pictures I've seen you do
of Dorrie.







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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-08-03 Thread Bill


On 03/08/2015 2:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Thanks, Bill.

It wasn't one of my first choices either, as I mentioned; I passed
over it a couple of times. But all the 4 and 5-star shots from this
set are in quarantine pending a magazine submission and I was looking
for something else I could post to keep the social media wheels
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I don't supply her with new retouches now and then. :) )


Send he my way. I could probably help her out, providing she doesn't 
mind bad pictures.




But it's taken on a bit of a life of its own, getting good notice on
ello and Flickr. You just never know what will take off.


On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Bill  wrote:

[...]
This is almost an aside, and should go into another post, but the image in
question is quite nice, though not one of the best pictures I've seen you do
of Dorrie.







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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-08-03 Thread Bruce Walker

Thanks, Bill.

It wasn't one of my first choices either, as I mentioned; I passed
over it a couple of times. But all the 4 and 5-star shots from this
set are in quarantine pending a magazine submission and I was looking
for something else I could post to keep the social media wheels
lubricated, both for myself and the model. (She starts to get antsy if
I don't supply her with new retouches now and then. :) )

But it's taken on a bit of a life of its own, getting good notice on
ello and Flickr. You just never know what will take off.

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Bill  wrote:
> [...]
> This is almost an aside, and should go into another post, but the image in
> question is quite nice, though not one of the best pictures I've seen you do
> of Dorrie.

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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-08-03 Thread Bruce Walker

If one of the purposes of art is to provoke thought and discussion,
then I feel pretty good about my image. :)

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Knarf  wrote:
> I think that it's a very "grown up" thing to discuss sexual exploitation, 
> what it is, and what it means to individuals and to society.
>
> Cheers,
>
> frank
>
> On 2 August, 2015 5:37:03 PM EDT, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>>Simply beautiful. Analyzing it beyond that and agonizing over the ways
>>we view the human form is utter nonsense. Grow up people!
>>
>>Paul via phone
>>
>>> On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Bruce Walker 
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before
>>> suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high
>>> contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and
>>> decided to keep the experiment.
>>>
>>> NSFW (nudity).
>>>
>>> http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792
>>>
>>> Model: Dorrie Mack
>>>
>>> K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100
>>>
>>> Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod),
>>> with 15 degree grid and barn doors.
>>>
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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-08-02 Thread Knarf

I think that it's a very "grown up" thing to discuss sexual exploitation, what 
it is, and what it means to individuals and to society.

Cheers,

frank

On 2 August, 2015 5:37:03 PM EDT, Paul Stenquist  
wrote:
>Simply beautiful. Analyzing it beyond that and agonizing over the ways
>we view the human form is utter nonsense. Grow up people!
>
>Paul via phone
>
>> On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Bruce Walker 
>wrote:
>> 
>> I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before
>> suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high
>> contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and
>> decided to keep the experiment.
>> 
>> NSFW (nudity).
>> 
>> http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792
>> 
>> Model: Dorrie Mack
>> 
>> K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100
>> 
>> Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod),
>> with 15 degree grid and barn doors.
>> 
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>> 
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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-08-02 Thread Knarf

" >If you see sexualization, then that is what you see.
>It may not be what someone else sees."

She's showing her tits, Bill. Please show me an adult who doesn't think that's 
sexual! At this point I'm not even saying it's bad, but to deny it's sexual? 

" >Generally speaking, exploitation doesn't involve consent."

I guess it depends on what "consent" means, doesn't it? Power, who has it and 
who doesn't, has a huge part to play whether one can be said to truly consent. 

Do think that blacks working on the railways back in the '40s and 50's were 
exploited? They did demeaning work, never rose to supervisory positions yet 
they got decent pay compared to many in their community. Whites got paid much 
more and had much better working conditions. The fact that blacks "agreed" to 
the jobs and pay doesn't mean they weren't exploited.

" >If it's normal and acceptable, then by definition it's okay."

By your definition slavery was "okay".

" >If a person is comfortable with the process, then your discomfort is 
>your problem, and is something that you are trying to project onto
>them."

Actually I think the problem is that so many are comfortable with this. I think 
the fact that so many don't see a disparity between portrayals of men and women 
in the media is the problem. I think the fact that so many see the disparity 
and are okay with it is the problem.

Cheers,

frank



On 2 August, 2015 4:31:25 PM EDT, Bill  wrote:
>On 02/08/2015 2:14 PM, Knarf wrote:
>> So there's a photo of a woman naked above the waist and the viewer
>> has sexualized her?
>>
>> Are you serious?
>
>If you see sexualization, then that is what you see.
>It may not be what someone else sees.
>
>>
>> Bruce took that photo knowing that part of its appeal would be
>> sexual. And Dorrie agreed to have the photo taken, knowing that sex
>> was a part of it.
>Were you there?
>>
>> Does that mean Bruce exploited Dorrie? No.
>>
>> By agreeing to be photographed in that way (indeed, being part of the
>> creative process) was Dorrie being exploited? Yeah, I think so.
>
>Generally speaking, exploitation doesn't involve consent.
>>
>> Not by Bruce but by a society that puts a value on the sexualization
>> and objectification of women. Being a consenting part of the process
>> doesn't mean one isn't being exploited.
>
>Now it's my turn to ask if you are serious.
>Exploitation: "the action or fact of treating someone unfairly in order
>
>to benefit from their work."
>
>Was the model treated unfairly? Did  Bruce have to threaten her or drug
>
>her into a stupor to get her to pose?
>
>The whole "exploitation" thing is a construct of people who want to 
>control others through shaming them.
>If a person wants to be exploited, they will be exploited.
>Oops, if they want to be exploited, that takes away the unfair part of 
>the definition.
>
>
>
>>
>> We're all socialized to see this as normal and acceptable but does
>> that mean it's okay?
>
>If it's normal and acceptable, then by definition it's okay.
>
>>
>> Men and women are portrayed far differently by the media. Yes, men
>> can be sexualized, but in a very different way, and certainly far
>> less frequently than women.
>>
>> My problem isn't necessarily with this individual photo or with
>> Bruce. It's that this is a part of the exploitation and
>> objectification that goes on every day on TV, in movies, magazines,
>> and advertising of all kinds. Women ~are~ treated differently than
>> men especially in sexual portrayals, and to the extent that this
>> photo is a part of that, I feel very uncomfortable.
>
>If a person is comfortable with the process, then your discomfort is 
>your problem, and is something that you are trying to project onto
>them.

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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-08-02 Thread Paul Stenquist

Simply beautiful. Analyzing it beyond that and agonizing over the ways we view 
the human form is utter nonsense. Grow up people!

Paul via phone

> On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before
> suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high
> contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and
> decided to keep the experiment.
> 
> NSFW (nudity).
> 
> http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792
> 
> Model: Dorrie Mack
> 
> K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100
> 
> Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod),
> with 15 degree grid and barn doors.
> 
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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-08-02 Thread Bill


On 02/08/2015 2:14 PM, Knarf wrote:

So there's a photo of a woman naked above the waist and the viewer
has sexualized her?

Are you serious?


If you see sexualization, then that is what you see.
It may not be what someone else sees.



Bruce took that photo knowing that part of its appeal would be
sexual. And Dorrie agreed to have the photo taken, knowing that sex
was a part of it.

Were you there?


Does that mean Bruce exploited Dorrie? No.

By agreeing to be photographed in that way (indeed, being part of the
creative process) was Dorrie being exploited? Yeah, I think so.


Generally speaking, exploitation doesn't involve consent.


Not by Bruce but by a society that puts a value on the sexualization
and objectification of women. Being a consenting part of the process
doesn't mean one isn't being exploited.


Now it's my turn to ask if you are serious.
Exploitation: "the action or fact of treating someone unfairly in order 
to benefit from their work."


Was the model treated unfairly? Did  Bruce have to threaten her or drug 
her into a stupor to get her to pose?


The whole "exploitation" thing is a construct of people who want to 
control others through shaming them.

If a person wants to be exploited, they will be exploited.
Oops, if they want to be exploited, that takes away the unfair part of 
the definition.






We're all socialized to see this as normal and acceptable but does
that mean it's okay?


If it's normal and acceptable, then by definition it's okay.



Men and women are portrayed far differently by the media. Yes, men
can be sexualized, but in a very different way, and certainly far
less frequently than women.

My problem isn't necessarily with this individual photo or with
Bruce. It's that this is a part of the exploitation and
objectification that goes on every day on TV, in movies, magazines,
and advertising of all kinds. Women ~are~ treated differently than
men especially in sexual portrayals, and to the extent that this
photo is a part of that, I feel very uncomfortable.


If a person is comfortable with the process, then your discomfort is 
your problem, and is something that you are trying to project onto them.




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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-08-02 Thread Bob W-PDML

On 2 Aug 2015, at 20:29, Bill  wrote:
> 
>> On 01/08/2015 9:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> Thank you very much for your kind words and support, Frank!
>> 
>> 
>> If it is of any comfort to you, the model, Dorrie, fully participates
>> in and approves of every part of the image creation process.
> 
> I think this is where the whole "exploitation" via sexualization and 
> objectification argument falls on it's face.
> When the subject is a willing participant in the process, who is being 
> exploited?
> 
> [...]
> 
> There is a very tired old argument that art was invented to get women out of 
> their clothes.

[...] I think that's slightly different from what we see here. The art thing 
may be similar to bower birds building their wacky bowers to attract females. 

> Perhaps it is true, perhaps it isn't, but the argument ignores the reality 
> that the subject has to be a willing participant in the process for the 
> process to happen, which effectively torpedoes the whole exploitation 
> argument.

Not really because the way you've presented it is rather shallow and doesn't 
take into account all sorts of factors, such as economic power, which tend on 
average to reduce women's options compared to men's in many ways and to 
normalise other options, such as exploiting their body.

B
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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-08-02 Thread Knarf

So there's a photo of a woman naked above the waist and the viewer has 
sexualized her?

Are you serious?

Bruce took that photo knowing that part of its appeal would be sexual. And 
Dorrie agreed to have the photo taken, knowing that sex was a part of it.

Does that mean Bruce exploited Dorrie? No.

By agreeing to be photographed in that way (indeed, being part of the creative 
process) was Dorrie being exploited? Yeah, I think so.

Not by Bruce but by a society that puts a value on the sexualization and 
objectification of women. Being a consenting part of the process doesn't mean 
one isn't being exploited.

We're all socialized to see this as normal and acceptable but does that mean 
it's okay?

Men and women are portrayed far differently by the media. Yes, men can be 
sexualized, but in a very different way, and certainly far less frequently than 
women.

My problem isn't necessarily with this individual photo or with Bruce. It's 
that this is a part of the exploitation and objectification that goes on every 
day on TV, in movies, magazines, and advertising of all kinds. Women ~are~ 
treated differently than men especially in sexual portrayals, and to the extent 
that this photo is a part of that, I feel very uncomfortable. 

Thanks for listening,

frank

On 2 August, 2015 3:28:59 PM EDT, Bill  wrote:
>On 01/08/2015 9:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> Thank you very much for your kind words and support, Frank!
>>
>>
>> If it is of any comfort to you, the model, Dorrie, fully participates
>> in and approves of every part of the image creation process.
>
>I think this is where the whole "exploitation" via sexualization and 
>objectification argument falls on it's face.
>When the subject is a willing participant in the process, who is being 
>exploited?
>
>Who is sexualizing the model? Is it the photographer who has taken a 
>picture of the model? The artist who sketches or paints a likeness of 
>the model?
>
>Or is it the viewer who sexualizes and objectifies the model with his
>or 
>her own preconceptions?
>
>There is a very tired old argument that art was invented to get women 
>out of their clothes. Perhaps it is true, perhaps it isn't, but the 
>argument ignores the reality that the subject has to be a willing 
>participant in the process for the process to happen, which effectively
>
>torpedoes the whole exploitation argument.
>
>This is almost an aside, and should go into another post, but the image
>
>in question is quite nice, though not one of the best pictures I've
>seen 
>you do of Dorrie.
>
>bill

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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-08-02 Thread Bill


On 01/08/2015 9:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Thank you very much for your kind words and support, Frank!


If it is of any comfort to you, the model, Dorrie, fully participates
in and approves of every part of the image creation process.


I think this is where the whole "exploitation" via sexualization and 
objectification argument falls on it's face.
When the subject is a willing participant in the process, who is being 
exploited?


Who is sexualizing the model? Is it the photographer who has taken a 
picture of the model? The artist who sketches or paints a likeness of 
the model?


Or is it the viewer who sexualizes and objectifies the model with his or 
her own preconceptions?


There is a very tired old argument that art was invented to get women 
out of their clothes. Perhaps it is true, perhaps it isn't, but the 
argument ignores the reality that the subject has to be a willing 
participant in the process for the process to happen, which effectively 
torpedoes the whole exploitation argument.


This is almost an aside, and should go into another post, but the image 
in question is quite nice, though not one of the best pictures I've seen 
you do of Dorrie.


bill

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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-08-01 Thread Bruce Walker

Thank you very much for your kind words and support, Frank!

If it is of any comfort to you, the model, Dorrie, fully participates
in and approves of every part of the image creation process.

We discuss shoot ideas, and what we are each comfortable with. This is
decidedly not a one-sided thing where, for example, I would dictate
how I want her to pose and what to wear and she passively submits to
it. The majority of the poses are hers.

I encourage her to participate in the editing (ie image selection)
process post-shoot. I give her veto rights over anything that she
deems outside her comfort zone. I accept but don't feel bound by her
shot selection suggestions as well. As the photographer and artist,
final editing decisions are mine.

Dorrie is very broad-minded and an artist in her own right. To give
you an indication, her favourite artist is Egon Schiele.  She attends
life drawing classes to improve her own painting skills, and I suspect
swipe posing ideas. :)

But I guess I shouldn't be comforting you anyway, probably the
opposite. Afflicting the comfortable? :)

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Knarf  wrote:
> I struggle with these photos because I feel uncomfortable with their 
> sexualization and objectification of the subject.
>
> But I can't deny their technical and artistic brilliance.
>
> In the end I have to admit that it's quite beautiful, which causes more inner 
> conflict because the feminist-ally in me tells me I should feel shame.
>
> What's a lefty to do?
>
> Nice shot!
>
> Cheers,
>
> frank
>
> On 29 July, 2015 4:39:50 PM EDT, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before
>>suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high
>>contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and
>>decided to keep the experiment.
>>
>>NSFW (nudity).
>>
>>http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792
>>
>>Model: Dorrie Mack
>>
>>K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100
>>
>>Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod),
>>with 15 degree grid and barn doors.
>>
>>Comments really are welcome.
>
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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-07-29 Thread John

"A Brief And Gloriously Naughty History Of Early Erotica In Art (NSFW)"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/a-brief-and-gloriously-naughty-history-of-erotica-in-art_55b65df9e4b0224d8832ecb9?

It's been around for a long, long time.

On 7/29/2015 10:35 PM, Knarf wrote:

I struggle with these photos because I feel uncomfortable with their
sexualization and objectification of the subject.

But I can't deny their technical and artistic brilliance.

In the end I have to admit that it's quite beautiful, which causes
more inner conflict because the feminist-ally in me tells me I should
feel shame.

What's a lefty to do?

Nice shot!

Cheers,

frank

On 29 July, 2015 4:39:50 PM EDT, Bruce Walker
wrote:

I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times
before suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look
with high contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with
it, and decided to keep the experiment.

NSFW (nudity).

http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792

Model: Dorrie Mack

K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100

Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector
(Litemod), with 15 degree grid and barn doors.

Comments really are welcome.

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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

2015-07-29 Thread Knarf

I struggle with these photos because I feel uncomfortable with their 
sexualization and objectification of the subject.

But I can't deny their technical and artistic brilliance. 

In the end I have to admit that it's quite beautiful, which causes more inner 
conflict because the feminist-ally in me tells me I should feel shame.

What's a lefty to do?

Nice shot!

Cheers,

frank

On 29 July, 2015 4:39:50 PM EDT, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before
>suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high
>contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and
>decided to keep the experiment.
>
>NSFW (nudity).
>
>http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792
>
>Model: Dorrie Mack
>
>K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100
>
>Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod),
>with 15 degree grid and barn doors.
>
>Comments really are welcome.

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Re: PESO: Shadow Blossoms

2012-02-26 Thread Jack Davis

In this case, it's all about the lighting. The more dense the surrounding, the 
greater the desired effect.(to a point)

Jack


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That is a really tough subject.  The large print might be necessary to 
make it work.

If anyone has any hints on how to shoot trees in the woods so they come 
out as a picture of something rather than just an abstract mass of 
branches, I'm very interested.  It's a subject that I've never been able 
to do much with.


On 2/25/2012 7:00 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Jack,
> I think Paul is right about a large print.
> The web image just doesn't have necessary pop.
> I can see what it must be, but need it BIGGER.  ;-)
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> Intriguing. But with so much detail it will probably work better as a large 
>> print rather than a web image. A tighter crop and larger image area would 
>> probably help here.  I do like the light on the blossoms and the way they 
>> explode out of the forest. I just think the way it's displayed isn't doing 
>> it justice.
>>
>> Paul
>> On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>
>>> Another of those previously posted as, "Along the River."
>>>
>>>
>>> Comments invited.
>>>
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>>>
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Re: PESO: Shadow Blossoms

2012-02-26 Thread Jack Davis

Thanks, again, Frank!
 
Jack


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And another beautiful photo. Sublime light.

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Jack Davis 
Sent: February 25, 2012 2/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Shadow Blossoms

Another of those previously posted as, "Along the River."
 
 
Comments invited.
 
Jack
 
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=631

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RE: PESO: Shadow Blossoms

2012-02-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com

And another beautiful photo. Sublime light.

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Jack Davis 
Sent: February 25, 2012 2/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Shadow Blossoms

Another of those previously posted as, "Along the River."
 
 
Comments invited.
 
Jack
 
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=631

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Re: PESO: Shadow Blossoms

2012-02-25 Thread Larry Colen

That is a really tough subject.  The large print might be necessary to 
make it work.


If anyone has any hints on how to shoot trees in the woods so they come 
out as a picture of something rather than just an abstract mass of 
branches, I'm very interested.  It's a subject that I've never been able 
to do much with.



On 2/25/2012 7:00 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Jack,
I think Paul is right about a large print.
The web image just doesn't have necessary pop.
I can see what it must be, but need it BIGGER.  ;-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

Intriguing. But with so much detail it will probably work better as a large 
print rather than a web image. A tighter crop and larger image area would 
probably help here.  I do like the light on the blossoms and the way they 
explode out of the forest. I just think the way it's displayed isn't doing it 
justice.

Paul
On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


Another of those previously posted as, "Along the River."


Comments invited.

Jack

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Re: PESO: Shadow Blossoms

2012-02-25 Thread Jack Davis

Exactly, a print for the wall would include considerably more.
Remarks well taken, Bob. 

Jack


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Jack,
I do think that's better.
I miss some of the light/shadow on the forest floor,
I just don't see how to send a 25 by 20 inch print over the internet.
This is kind of like having a 3x5 of an Ansel Adams photo.
You know the goodness is there, you just can't see it.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> OK, both you and Paul, while I like something more of the lighting and total 
> environment in the posted shot, I get your "detail" point.
> This do-over enlarges the blossoms which, by contrast, I want to be coming 
> out of the shadows. IOW, I have to include at least this much forest.
> While I, somewhat, miss the sun's effect on the forest floor, I'll grant that 
> it's really not that necessary.
>
> Better?
>
> Jack
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=632
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Bob Sullivan 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Cc:
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:00 AM
> Subject: Re: PESO: Shadow Blossoms
>
> Jack,
> I think Paul is right about a large print.
> The web image just doesn't have necessary pop.
> I can see what it must be, but need it BIGGER.  ;-)
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> Intriguing. But with so much detail it will probably work better as a large 
>> print rather than a web image. A tighter crop and larger image area would 
>> probably help here.  I do like the light on the blossoms and the way they 
>> explode out of the forest. I just think the way it's displayed isn't doing 
>> it justice.
>>
>> Paul
>> On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>
>>> Another of those previously posted as, "Along the River."
>>>
>>>
>>> Comments invited.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=631
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Re: PESO: Shadow Blossoms

2012-02-25 Thread Bob Sullivan

Jack,
I do think that's better.
I miss some of the light/shadow on the forest floor,
I just don't see how to send a 25 by 20 inch print over the internet.
This is kind of like having a 3x5 of an Ansel Adams photo.
You know the goodness is there, you just can't see it.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> OK, both you and Paul, while I like something more of the lighting and total 
> environment in the posted shot, I get your "detail" point.
> This do-over enlarges the blossoms which, by contrast, I want to be coming 
> out of the shadows. IOW, I have to include at least this much forest.
> While I, somewhat, miss the sun's effect on the forest floor, I'll grant that 
> it's really not that necessary.
>
> Better?
>
> Jack
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=632
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Bob Sullivan 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Cc:
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:00 AM
> Subject: Re: PESO: Shadow Blossoms
>
> Jack,
> I think Paul is right about a large print.
> The web image just doesn't have necessary pop.
> I can see what it must be, but need it BIGGER.  ;-)
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> Intriguing. But with so much detail it will probably work better as a large 
>> print rather than a web image. A tighter crop and larger image area would 
>> probably help here.  I do like the light on the blossoms and the way they 
>> explode out of the forest. I just think the way it's displayed isn't doing 
>> it justice.
>>
>> Paul
>> On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>
>>> Another of those previously posted as, "Along the River."
>>>
>>>
>>> Comments invited.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=631
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Re: PESO: Shadow Blossoms

2012-02-25 Thread Paul Stenquist

Much improved, IMO.

On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

> OK, both you and Paul, while I like something more of the lighting and total 
> environment in the posted shot, I get your "detail" point. 
> This do-over enlarges the blossoms which, by contrast, I want to be coming 
> out of the shadows. IOW, I have to include at least this much forest.
> While I, somewhat, miss the sun's effect on the forest floor, I'll grant that 
> it's really not that necessary.
> 
> Better?
> 
> Jack
> 
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=632
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Bob Sullivan 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:00 AM
> Subject: Re: PESO: Shadow Blossoms
> 
> Jack,
> I think Paul is right about a large print.
> The web image just doesn't have necessary pop.
> I can see what it must be, but need it BIGGER.  ;-)
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> Intriguing. But with so much detail it will probably work better as a large 
>> print rather than a web image. A tighter crop and larger image area would 
>> probably help here.  I do like the light on the blossoms and the way they 
>> explode out of the forest. I just think the way it's displayed isn't doing 
>> it justice.
>> 
>> Paul
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Re: PESO: Shadow Blossoms

2012-02-25 Thread Jack Davis

OK, both you and Paul, while I like something more of the lighting and total 
environment in the posted shot, I get your "detail" point. 
This do-over enlarges the blossoms which, by contrast, I want to be coming out 
of the shadows. IOW, I have to include at least this much forest.
While I, somewhat, miss the sun's effect on the forest floor, I'll grant that 
it's really not that necessary.

Better?

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Jack,
I think Paul is right about a large print.
The web image just doesn't have necessary pop.
I can see what it must be, but need it BIGGER.  ;-)
Regards,  Bob S.

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> Intriguing. But with so much detail it will probably work better as a large 
> print rather than a web image. A tighter crop and larger image area would 
> probably help here.  I do like the light on the blossoms and the way they 
> explode out of the forest. I just think the way it's displayed isn't doing it 
> justice.
>
> Paul
> On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
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Re: PESO: Shadow Blossoms

2012-02-25 Thread Bob Sullivan

Jack,
I think Paul is right about a large print.
The web image just doesn't have necessary pop.
I can see what it must be, but need it BIGGER.  ;-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Intriguing. But with so much detail it will probably work better as a large 
> print rather than a web image. A tighter crop and larger image area would 
> probably help here.  I do like the light on the blossoms and the way they 
> explode out of the forest. I just think the way it's displayed isn't doing it 
> justice.
>
> Paul
> On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>
>> Another of those previously posted as, "Along the River."
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Re: PESO: Shadow Blossoms

2012-02-25 Thread Paul Stenquist

Intriguing. But with so much detail it will probably work better as a large 
print rather than a web image. A tighter crop and larger image area would 
probably help here.  I do like the light on the blossoms and the way they 
explode out of the forest. I just think the way it's displayed isn't doing it 
justice.

Paul
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> Another of those previously posted as, "Along the River."
>  
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Re: PESO - Shadow

2011-09-08 Thread David J Brooks

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Thanks, Ann!
>
> It's fun to shoot around home, but I must admit I like travel shooting more.

With gas at $1.30 a litre i shoot in the back yard.:-)

Dave

BTW i like this one

Dave
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> --- On Tue, 9/6/11, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
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>> From: Ann Sanfedele 
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Shadow
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2011, 7:30 PM
>> Rick--
>> I like this, and your "stripes" but especially "caution"
>> Not sure why, but your recent stuff is much more to my
>> liking than
>> images from your travels abroad, for the most part.  I
>> absolutely love
>> "caution"  I think I'd like "Stripes more in BW"
>> and the
>> leaves and shadows are very pleasant .
>>
>> ann
>>
>> On 9/6/2011 18:46, Rick Womer wrote:
>> > Another taken on my way home from work last week:
>> >
>> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14142975&size=lg
>> >
>> > (K7, FA 24-90)
>> >
>> > Rick
>> >
>> >
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Re: PESO - Shadow

2011-09-07 Thread Bob Sullivan

Rick,
I like the locust tree leaf shadows (very organic) contrasted with the
geometric brick pattern.
And then on the right, you have the actual leaves with the smooth
steel door as background.
That's a lot for a simple picture of an urban design.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Well rendered pleasing effect, Rick.
>
> Jack
>
>
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: PESO - Shadow
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> Another taken on my way home from work last week:
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Re: PESO - Shadow

2011-09-07 Thread Eactivist

Very pleasant.

Marnie aka the almost  akaless :-)

In a message dated 9/6/2011 3:46:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight  Time, 
rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes:
Another taken on my way home from work  last  week:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14142975&size=lg

(K7,  FA 24-90)

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Re: PESO - Shadow

2011-09-06 Thread Jack Davis

Well rendered pleasing effect, Rick.

Jack


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Subject: PESO - Shadow

Another taken on my way home from work last week:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14142975&size=lg

(K7, FA 24-90)

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Re: PESO - Shadow

2011-09-06 Thread Rick Womer

Thanks, Ann!

It's fun to shoot around home, but I must admit I like travel shooting more.

Rick

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--- On Tue, 9/6/11, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> From: Ann Sanfedele 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Shadow
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2011, 7:30 PM
> Rick--
> I like this, and your "stripes" but especially "caution"
> Not sure why, but your recent stuff is much more to my
> liking than 
> images from your travels abroad, for the most part.  I
> absolutely love
> "caution"  I think I'd like "Stripes more in BW" 
> and the
> leaves and shadows are very pleasant .
> 
> ann
> 
> On 9/6/2011 18:46, Rick Womer wrote:
> > Another taken on my way home from work last week:
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14142975&size=lg
> >
> > (K7, FA 24-90)
> >
> > Rick
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Re: PESO - Shadow

2011-09-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele


Rick--
I like this, and your "stripes" but especially "caution"
Not sure why, but your recent stuff is much more to my liking than 
images from your travels abroad, for the most part.  I absolutely love

"caution"  I think I'd like "Stripes more in BW"  and the
leaves and shadows are very pleasant .

ann

On 9/6/2011 18:46, Rick Womer wrote:

Another taken on my way home from work last week:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14142975&size=lg

(K7, FA 24-90)

Rick





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Re: PESO: Shadow Puppets

2010-07-14 Thread drd1135

The problem was that this was taken with my BlackBerry ;-). I just happened to 
see this while walking on the trail. I need to start carrying an actual camera. 
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Steve, this is a great idea.  However, there is so much CA in all the branches 
that it is really distracting, as are the blown-out patches of sky.  If you 
zoomed in on the leaf (or cropped down to it, but I doubt the image will stand 
it) you'd have a winner.

Rick

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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/40620...@n04/4787806690/
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> An odd and flawed photo, but I still thought I'd share it.
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Re: PESO: Shadow Puppets

2010-07-14 Thread Rick Womer

Steve, this is a great idea.  However, there is so much CA in all the branches 
that it is really distracting, as are the blown-out patches of sky.  If you 
zoomed in on the leaf (or cropped down to it, but I doubt the image will stand 
it) you'd have a winner.

Rick

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