Re: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-19 Thread Larry Colen 



Igor PDML-StR wrote:


HAR!
That's a nice one, Bruce!

Larry:

Com'on! What you are saying is that if your calculator is broken, two
numbers cannot be added correctly.
You can still tune the colors if they are present in the RAW file. Yes,
it might take longer time, but it is possible. But if they are not
there, no grey card would help you getting them back.

Or, are you talking about setting the WB prior to shooting, as opposed
to post-processing? Even in that case, in most situations, it is
possible to do that in post, except for some bizarre, "pathological" cases.


OK, yes it is in theory possible.  However, I have not had any luck 
adjusting the color to what I remember seeing.




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Re: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-19 Thread Igor PDML-StR 


HAR!
That's a nice one, Bruce!

Larry:

Com'on! What you are saying is that if your calculator is broken, two 
numbers cannot be added correctly.
You can still tune the colors if they are present in the RAW file. Yes, it 
might take longer time, but it is possible. But if they are not there, no 
grey card would help you getting them back.


Or, are you talking about setting the WB prior to shooting, as opposed to 
post-processing? Even in that case, in most situations, it is possible to 
do that in post, except for some bizarre, "pathological" cases.


Igor



 Bruce Walker Wed, 19 Oct 2016 10:43:00 -0700 wrote:

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:


Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Not having shot a grey card can make it hard to make sure the colors are
accurate, or more difficult to get the rendering your want. But it does
not change whether the colors come through or not.


Not doing it can make the white and gold dress look blue and black.



The clothing must be in another shot. In these the spider looks to be nude.

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Re: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-19 Thread Bruce Walker 
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>>
>> Not having shot a grey card can make it hard to make sure the colors are
>> accurate, or more difficult to get the rendering your want. But it does
>> not change whether the colors come through or not.
>
> Not doing it can make the white and gold dress look blue and black.

The clothing must be in another shot. In these the spider looks to be nude.

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Re: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-19 Thread Larry Colen 



Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Larry,

The first photo is very good. The second one can benefit from some
trimming, but I am not sure if even that would help with that bright
thing in the left bottom corner. I'd try to spot-treat it to tune down
the brightness of that object.


Good idea, I used the gradient tool on it.



Sorry, but I find that logic (quoted below) faulty.
Not having shot a grey card can make it hard to make sure the colors are
accurate, or more difficult to get the rendering your want. But it does
not change whether the colors come through or not.


Not doing it can make the white and gold dress look blue and black.



Igor


Larry Colen Tue, 18 Oct 2016 17:21:07 -0700 wrote:

We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one was
a lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't
really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.



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Re: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-19 Thread Igor PDML-StR 


Larry,

The first photo is very good. The second one can benefit from some
trimming, but I am not sure if even that would help with that bright
thing in the left bottom corner. I'd try to spot-treat it to tune down the 
brightness of that object.


Sorry, but I find that logic (quoted below) faulty.
Not having shot a grey card can make it hard to make sure the colors are 
accurate, or more difficult to get the rendering your want. But it does 
not change whether the colors come through or not.


Igor


Larry Colen Tue, 18 Oct 2016 17:21:07 -0700 wrote:

We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one was a 
lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't 
really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.


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RE: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-19 Thread Malcolm Smith 
Larry Colen wrote:

Very cool.

By the way, your email is showing up with no way to tell the original post
from the reply.  Most mail clients tend to preface the lines of the original
email with a character, like '>'.  I wonder if yours is colorizing using
HTML, which then gets stripped out.

+++

Thanks.

For the time being is that an improvement? I was without e-mail for a while
and having got a new computer with all new software, I'm loath to poke
around with the settings.

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Re: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-19 Thread Larry Colen 



Malcolm Smith wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:

We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one was a
lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't really
come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.

Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/

I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.

Nice, but I can't say I like getting to close to them.

Here's one of mine, which I chose to make sharp in places to give a
different view:  http://flic.kr/p/MFtosh


Very cool.

By the way, your email is showing up with no way to tell the original 
post from the reply.  Most mail clients tend to preface the lines of the 
original email with a character, like '>'.  I wonder if yours is 
colorizing using HTML, which then gets stripped out.





Malcolm




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RE: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-19 Thread Malcolm Smith 
Larry Colen wrote:

We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one was a
lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't really
come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.

Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/

I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.

Nice, but I can't say I like getting to close to them.

Here's one of mine, which I chose to make sharp in places to give a
different view:  http://flic.kr/p/MFtosh

Malcolm


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Re: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-18 Thread Marco Alpert 
Agreed. http://xkcd.com/1747/

m

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> First shot is the excellent. Good looking spider.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> Nice level of detail in each image. I think the colors are quite nice and
>>> natural.
>> 
>> Thanks Dan. It looks very much like most of the ones around here do, so 
>> maybe my eyes were fooled by the light or something.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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 On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one
 was a
 lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't
 really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.
 
 Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/
 
 I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.
 
 
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Re: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-18 Thread Paul Stenquist 
First shot is the excellent. Good looking spider.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> Nice level of detail in each image. I think the colors are quite nice and
>> natural.
> 
> Thanks Dan. It looks very much like most of the ones around here do, so maybe 
> my eyes were fooled by the light or something.
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> 
>>> We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one
>>> was a
>>> lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't
>>> really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.
>>> 
>>> Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/
>>> 
>>> I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.
>>> 
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Re: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-18 Thread John 

On 10/18/2016 8:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one was
a lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't
really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.

Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/

I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.




I'd keep checking back. There's a good chance the spider will build
again in the same place if it was a good spot.


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Re: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-18 Thread Larry Colen 



Brian Walters wrote:

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one was
a lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't
really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.

Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/

I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.



That's always the way...

Very interesting patterns on it.  I prefer the second image - seems a
bit sharper.  Perhaps a tighter crop to get rid of the objects at lower
left&  right?


Thanks, I had tried that cropping but felt that the spider needed to be 
closer to the top of the frame, at the bottom of the frame it just led 
the eye out of the frame, which is a real shame because the web is so 
much stronger of an image than the bits of the retaining wall.



   Larry




Cheers

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Re: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-18 Thread Brian Walters 
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one was 
> a lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't 
> really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.
> 
> Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/
> 
> I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.


That's always the way...

Very interesting patterns on it.  I prefer the second image - seems a
bit sharper.  Perhaps a tighter crop to get rid of the objects at lower
left & right?


Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-18 Thread Larry Colen 



Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Nice level of detail in each image. I think the colors are quite nice and
natural.


Thanks Dan. It looks very much like most of the ones around here do, so 
maybe my eyes were fooled by the light or something.






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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one
was a
lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't
really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.

Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/

I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.


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Re: PESO Orb Spider

2016-10-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
Nice level of detail in each image.  I think the colors are quite nice and
natural.


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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one was a
> lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't
> really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.
>
> Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/
>
> I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.
>
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Re: PESO Orb spider in web

2012-10-14 Thread Larry Colen 

On Oct 14, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:

 Here's my non helpful reply, I like the color version my wife prefers
 the BW ( and she never likes any of my BWs).

If we all agreed on everything, we'd have nothing to argue about.

 Good job either wy.

Thanks.

 
 
 This one is NSFA(*)
 
 Saw another web, this one with a European Orb spider.  I experimented
 a bit with the flash, and am pretty happy with the way this one turned
 out:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8081265450/in/set-7215763175798/
 
 I also processed one of the ones from this morning (no spider) into
 pretty high contrast black and white.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8081093396/in/set-7215763175798/
 
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