Re: PPG quota

2009-09-01 Thread Sasha Sobol
Wow, Daniel- I love that shot.


--Sasha

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> Thanks, Bob.  It is one of my favorite travel images, which is why I
> was bummed out when Pentax rejected it after holding it under review
> for so long.
>
> Dan
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>> Dan,
>> Trite or not, it's still a magnificent image.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
>> wrote:
>>> Thanks for your kind remarks, Jack and Paul.
>>>
>>> Although this is one of my favorite images, I think it may have been
>>> viewed as trite.  When I took the image, I had never seen photos of
>>> Peyto Lake, and I was stunned by its beauty.  Since then, I have seen
>>> a number of shots taken from this precise vantage point, and they all
>>> look pretty much the same.  I think that the image may have gotten
>>> enough votes, but that the Pentax reviewers might have said "Ho-hum,
>>> not this again."
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>>> Magnificent shot. Was possibly held for further review which could very 
>>>> well be a compliment to the image. Unfortunately they don't provide a 
>>>> grade.
>>>>
>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
>>>>> Subject: Re: PPG quota
>>>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>>>> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:39 PM
>>>>> I had another of those frustrating
>>>>> experiences with the PPG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images,
>>>>> including this one:
>>>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634
>>>>>
>>>>> All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks.
>>>>> I submitted several
>>>>> more, and they were rejected, but this one remained "ready
>>>>> for
>>>>> review."  Today, finally, it showed up in the
>>>>> "Declined" section.
>>>>> Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected
>>>>> promptly, but
>>>>> when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and
>>>>> get
>>>>> disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended
>>>>> "review."
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
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Re: PPG quota

2009-09-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bob.  It is one of my favorite travel images, which is why I
was bummed out when Pentax rejected it after holding it under review
for so long.

Dan

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Dan,
> Trite or not, it's still a magnificent image.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> Thanks for your kind remarks, Jack and Paul.
>>
>> Although this is one of my favorite images, I think it may have been
>> viewed as trite.  When I took the image, I had never seen photos of
>> Peyto Lake, and I was stunned by its beauty.  Since then, I have seen
>> a number of shots taken from this precise vantage point, and they all
>> look pretty much the same.  I think that the image may have gotten
>> enough votes, but that the Pentax reviewers might have said "Ho-hum,
>> not this again."
>>
>> Thanks for looking.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>> Magnificent shot. Was possibly held for further review which could very 
>>> well be a compliment to the image. Unfortunately they don't provide a grade.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
>>>> Subject: Re: PPG quota
>>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>>> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:39 PM
>>>> I had another of those frustrating
>>>> experiences with the PPG.
>>>>
>>>> Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images,
>>>> including this one:
>>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634
>>>>
>>>> All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks.
>>>> I submitted several
>>>> more, and they were rejected, but this one remained "ready
>>>> for
>>>> review."  Today, finally, it showed up in the
>>>> "Declined" section.
>>>> Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected
>>>> promptly, but
>>>> when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and
>>>> get
>>>> disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended
>>>> "review."
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
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Re: PPG quota

2009-09-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan,
Trite or not, it's still a magnificent image.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> Thanks for your kind remarks, Jack and Paul.
>
> Although this is one of my favorite images, I think it may have been
> viewed as trite.  When I took the image, I had never seen photos of
> Peyto Lake, and I was stunned by its beauty.  Since then, I have seen
> a number of shots taken from this precise vantage point, and they all
> look pretty much the same.  I think that the image may have gotten
> enough votes, but that the Pentax reviewers might have said "Ho-hum,
> not this again."
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
> Dan
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Magnificent shot. Was possibly held for further review which could very well 
>> be a compliment to the image. Unfortunately they don't provide a grade.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
>>> Subject: Re: PPG quota
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:39 PM
>>> I had another of those frustrating
>>> experiences with the PPG.
>>>
>>> Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images,
>>> including this one:
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634
>>>
>>> All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks.
>>> I submitted several
>>> more, and they were rejected, but this one remained "ready
>>> for
>>> review."  Today, finally, it showed up in the
>>> "Declined" section.
>>> Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected
>>> promptly, but
>>> when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and
>>> get
>>> disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended
>>> "review."
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
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Re: PPG quota

2009-09-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for your kind remarks, Jack and Paul.

Although this is one of my favorite images, I think it may have been
viewed as trite.  When I took the image, I had never seen photos of
Peyto Lake, and I was stunned by its beauty.  Since then, I have seen
a number of shots taken from this precise vantage point, and they all
look pretty much the same.  I think that the image may have gotten
enough votes, but that the Pentax reviewers might have said "Ho-hum,
not this again."

Thanks for looking.

Dan

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Magnificent shot. Was possibly held for further review which could very well 
> be a compliment to the image. Unfortunately they don't provide a grade.
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>
>> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
>> Subject: Re: PPG quota
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:39 PM
>> I had another of those frustrating
>> experiences with the PPG.
>>
>> Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images,
>> including this one:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634
>>
>> All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks.
>> I submitted several
>> more, and they were rejected, but this one remained "ready
>> for
>> review."  Today, finally, it showed up in the
>> "Declined" section.
>> Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected
>> promptly, but
>> when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and
>> get
>> disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended
>> "review."
>>
>> Dan
>>
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread paul stenquist

Nice shot. Better than the majority of landscapes in the gallery.
I think when a pic sits that long it means it passed peer review but  
was rejected by the gallery gods.

Paul
On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I had another of those frustrating experiences with the PPG.

Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images,  
including this one:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634

All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks.  I submitted several
more, and they were rejected, but this one remained "ready for
review."  Today, finally, it showed up in the "Declined" section.
Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected promptly, but
when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and get
disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended "review."

Dan

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Jack Davis
Magnificent shot. Was possibly held for further review which could very well be 
a compliment to the image. Unfortunately they don't provide a grade.

Jack

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
> Subject: Re: PPG quota
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:39 PM
> I had another of those frustrating
> experiences with the PPG.
> 
> Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images,
> including this one:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634
> 
> All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks. 
> I submitted several
> more, and they were rejected, but this one remained "ready
> for
> review."  Today, finally, it showed up in the
> "Declined" section.
> Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected
> promptly, but
> when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and
> get
> disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended
> "review."
> 
> Dan
> 
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I had another of those frustrating experiences with the PPG.

Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images, including this one:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634

All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks.  I submitted several
more, and they were rejected, but this one remained "ready for
review."  Today, finally, it showed up in the "Declined" section.
Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected promptly, but
when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and get
disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended "review."

Dan

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jostein,
Our expectations are indeed different.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 2:54 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
> I just checked. On a computer that's never visited the PPG before, so
> there's no local cache.
>
> 12 seconds. I expect it will vary through the day, though.
>
> Jostein
>
> 2009/8/31 Jack Davis :
>> What I was clumsily trying to say, the TOTAL time needed from clicking on 
>> PPG to the opening of a selected artist's image is 'prox 4 - 6 secs.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Bob Sullivan 
>>> Subject: Re: PPG quota
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 9:54 AM
>>> Jack,
>>> I'm paying for a premium ATT broadband connection here.
>>> The initial splash page takes 5 seconds or so to load.
>>> I brought up 10 recent additions in 32 seconds, one after
>>> another.
>>> It gets me impatient to see the little loading bar...
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jack Davis
>>> wrote:
>>> > IF I interpret your experience with the PPG correctly,
>>> I feel it's safe to say that I don't have the same
>>> experience. From the time I click on PPG, select an "artist"
>>> (myself..of course), choose a photo and have it come up is
>>> something like 4-6 secs.
>>> > Comcast cable connection.
>>> >
>>> > Jack
>>> >
>>> > --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> From: Bob Sullivan 
>>> >> Subject: Re: PPG quota
>>> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> >> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:37 AM
>>> >> Jostein,
>>> >> On occasion, somebody here will link to the
>>> gallery for a
>>> >> photo.
>>> >> I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up
>>> more
>>> >> internally.
>>> >> Finally, it will look like it is going to open
>>> something,
>>> >> but no,
>>> >> wait, just kidding, not yet!
>>> >> When a picture opens it is nice.
>>> >> I went thru all 100 of yours and they are
>>> beautiful (and a
>>> >> major
>>> >> accomplishment).
>>> >> But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs
>>> and the
>>> >> gallery is too slow.
>>> >> It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the
>>> internet
>>> >> distribution side.
>>> >> Regards,  Bob S.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFoto
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Rick,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G
>>> by any
>>> >> chance? I really
>>> >> > don't recognise your description...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I didn't join the foray until half a year
>>> after the
>>> >> first invitations
>>> >> > went out. I had read a lot of bitching from
>>> many on
>>> >> this list over the
>>> >> > interface, and was very skeptical to begin
>>> with. In
>>> >> fact, I wrote to
>>> >> > Pentax and suggested some improvements, both
>>> on the
>>> >> gallery display
>>> >> > and the voting page. A few were incorporated
>>> too,
>>> >> along with other
>>> >> > changes to improve the interface speed over
>>> time. I
>>> >> joined in June,
>>> >> > btw, and the beta stage ended in September
>>> 2007.
>>> >> Further improvements
>>> >> > were made later that autumn, and I don't
>>> think it's
>>> >> that bad anymore.
>>> >> > I may have grown used to it too, of course.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work
>>> praised the
>>> >> site's convenient
>>> >> > interface for browsing images. Without any
>>> >> encouragement from me
>>> >> > except providing the link.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Jostein
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2009/8/30 Rick Womer :
>>> >&g

Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread AlunFoto
I just checked. On a computer that's never visited the PPG before, so
there's no local cache.

12 seconds. I expect it will vary through the day, though.

Jostein

2009/8/31 Jack Davis :
> What I was clumsily trying to say, the TOTAL time needed from clicking on PPG 
> to the opening of a selected artist's image is 'prox 4 - 6 secs.
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>
>> From: Bob Sullivan 
>> Subject: Re: PPG quota
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 9:54 AM
>> Jack,
>> I'm paying for a premium ATT broadband connection here.
>> The initial splash page takes 5 seconds or so to load.
>> I brought up 10 recent additions in 32 seconds, one after
>> another.
>> It gets me impatient to see the little loading bar...
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jack Davis
>> wrote:
>> > IF I interpret your experience with the PPG correctly,
>> I feel it's safe to say that I don't have the same
>> experience. From the time I click on PPG, select an "artist"
>> (myself..of course), choose a photo and have it come up is
>> something like 4-6 secs.
>> > Comcast cable connection.
>> >
>> > Jack
>> >
>> > --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Bob Sullivan 
>> >> Subject: Re: PPG quota
>> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> >> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:37 AM
>> >> Jostein,
>> >> On occasion, somebody here will link to the
>> gallery for a
>> >> photo.
>> >> I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up
>> more
>> >> internally.
>> >> Finally, it will look like it is going to open
>> something,
>> >> but no,
>> >> wait, just kidding, not yet!
>> >> When a picture opens it is nice.
>> >> I went thru all 100 of yours and they are
>> beautiful (and a
>> >> major
>> >> accomplishment).
>> >> But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs
>> and the
>> >> gallery is too slow.
>> >> It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the
>> internet
>> >> distribution side.
>> >> Regards,  Bob S.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFoto
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Rick,
>> >> >
>> >> > You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G
>> by any
>> >> chance? I really
>> >> > don't recognise your description...
>> >> >
>> >> > I didn't join the foray until half a year
>> after the
>> >> first invitations
>> >> > went out. I had read a lot of bitching from
>> many on
>> >> this list over the
>> >> > interface, and was very skeptical to begin
>> with. In
>> >> fact, I wrote to
>> >> > Pentax and suggested some improvements, both
>> on the
>> >> gallery display
>> >> > and the voting page. A few were incorporated
>> too,
>> >> along with other
>> >> > changes to improve the interface speed over
>> time. I
>> >> joined in June,
>> >> > btw, and the beta stage ended in September
>> 2007.
>> >> Further improvements
>> >> > were made later that autumn, and I don't
>> think it's
>> >> that bad anymore.
>> >> > I may have grown used to it too, of course.
>> >> >
>> >> > Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work
>> praised the
>> >> site's convenient
>> >> > interface for browsing images. Without any
>> >> encouragement from me
>> >> > except providing the link.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jostein
>> >> >
>> >> > 2009/8/30 Rick Womer :
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I filled in the data form for a PPG
>> account
>> >> shortly after it opened a few years ago.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then, I read here and elsewhere about
>> the
>> >> ridiculous review system, which has only gotten
>> more
>> >> ridiculous.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I tried to look at people's photos, and
>> found the
>> >> interface to be slower than an Apple II in Job

Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Jack Davis
What I was clumsily trying to say, the TOTAL time needed from clicking on PPG 
to the opening of a selected artist's image is 'prox 4 - 6 secs.

Jack

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> From: Bob Sullivan 
> Subject: Re: PPG quota
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 9:54 AM
> Jack,
> I'm paying for a premium ATT broadband connection here.
> The initial splash page takes 5 seconds or so to load.
> I brought up 10 recent additions in 32 seconds, one after
> another.
> It gets me impatient to see the little loading bar...
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jack Davis
> wrote:
> > IF I interpret your experience with the PPG correctly,
> I feel it's safe to say that I don't have the same
> experience. From the time I click on PPG, select an "artist"
> (myself..of course), choose a photo and have it come up is
> something like 4-6 secs.
> > Comcast cable connection.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Bob Sullivan 
> >> Subject: Re: PPG quota
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:37 AM
> >> Jostein,
> >> On occasion, somebody here will link to the
> gallery for a
> >> photo.
> >> I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up
> more
> >> internally.
> >> Finally, it will look like it is going to open
> something,
> >> but no,
> >> wait, just kidding, not yet!
> >> When a picture opens it is nice.
> >> I went thru all 100 of yours and they are
> beautiful (and a
> >> major
> >> accomplishment).
> >> But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs
> and the
> >> gallery is too slow.
> >> It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the
> internet
> >> distribution side.
> >> Regards,  Bob S.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFoto
> >> wrote:
> >> > Rick,
> >> >
> >> > You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G
> by any
> >> chance? I really
> >> > don't recognise your description...
> >> >
> >> > I didn't join the foray until half a year
> after the
> >> first invitations
> >> > went out. I had read a lot of bitching from
> many on
> >> this list over the
> >> > interface, and was very skeptical to begin
> with. In
> >> fact, I wrote to
> >> > Pentax and suggested some improvements, both
> on the
> >> gallery display
> >> > and the voting page. A few were incorporated
> too,
> >> along with other
> >> > changes to improve the interface speed over
> time. I
> >> joined in June,
> >> > btw, and the beta stage ended in September
> 2007.
> >> Further improvements
> >> > were made later that autumn, and I don't
> think it's
> >> that bad anymore.
> >> > I may have grown used to it too, of course.
> >> >
> >> > Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work
> praised the
> >> site's convenient
> >> > interface for browsing images. Without any
> >> encouragement from me
> >> > except providing the link.
> >> >
> >> > Jostein
> >> >
> >> > 2009/8/30 Rick Womer :
> >> >> 
> >> >>
> >> >> I filled in the data form for a PPG
> account
> >> shortly after it opened a few years ago.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then, I read here and elsewhere about
> the
> >> ridiculous review system, which has only gotten
> more
> >> ridiculous.
> >> >>
> >> >> I tried to look at people's photos, and
> found the
> >> interface to be slower than an Apple II in Job's
> garage.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Screw this", I said, and have never
> uploaded
> >> anything.  When the very few PDMLers who post
> things to the
> >> PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of
> patience wth the
> >> incredibly slow interface long before I've seen
> the photos.
> >> >>
> >> >> 
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick
> >> >>
> >> >> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon 
> >> wrote:
> >> &g

Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread AlunFoto
Hmm...
I may well be that the difference is in expectations rather than
loading speed...

But then again I'm a slowish kinda guy... :-)

Jostein

2009/8/31 Bob Sullivan :
> Jack,
> I'm paying for a premium ATT broadband connection here.
> The initial splash page takes 5 seconds or so to load.
> I brought up 10 recent additions in 32 seconds, one after another.
> It gets me impatient to see the little loading bar...
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> IF I interpret your experience with the PPG correctly, I feel it's safe to 
>> say that I don't have the same experience. From the time I click on PPG, 
>> select an "artist" (myself..of course), choose a photo and have it come up 
>> is something like 4-6 secs.
>> Comcast cable connection.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Bob Sullivan 
>>> Subject: Re: PPG quota
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:37 AM
>>> Jostein,
>>> On occasion, somebody here will link to the gallery for a
>>> photo.
>>> I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up more
>>> internally.
>>> Finally, it will look like it is going to open something,
>>> but no,
>>> wait, just kidding, not yet!
>>> When a picture opens it is nice.
>>> I went thru all 100 of yours and they are beautiful (and a
>>> major
>>> accomplishment).
>>> But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs and the
>>> gallery is too slow.
>>> It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the internet
>>> distribution side.
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFoto
>>> wrote:
>>> > Rick,
>>> >
>>> > You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G by any
>>> chance? I really
>>> > don't recognise your description...
>>> >
>>> > I didn't join the foray until half a year after the
>>> first invitations
>>> > went out. I had read a lot of bitching from many on
>>> this list over the
>>> > interface, and was very skeptical to begin with. In
>>> fact, I wrote to
>>> > Pentax and suggested some improvements, both on the
>>> gallery display
>>> > and the voting page. A few were incorporated too,
>>> along with other
>>> > changes to improve the interface speed over time. I
>>> joined in June,
>>> > btw, and the beta stage ended in September 2007.
>>> Further improvements
>>> > were made later that autumn, and I don't think it's
>>> that bad anymore.
>>> > I may have grown used to it too, of course.
>>> >
>>> > Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work praised the
>>> site's convenient
>>> > interface for browsing images. Without any
>>> encouragement from me
>>> > except providing the link.
>>> >
>>> > Jostein
>>> >
>>> > 2009/8/30 Rick Womer :
>>> >> 
>>> >>
>>> >> I filled in the data form for a PPG account
>>> shortly after it opened a few years ago.
>>> >>
>>> >> Then, I read here and elsewhere about the
>>> ridiculous review system, which has only gotten more
>>> ridiculous.
>>> >>
>>> >> I tried to look at people's photos, and found the
>>> interface to be slower than an Apple II in Job's garage.
>>> >>
>>> >> "Screw this", I said, and have never uploaded
>>> anything.  When the very few PDMLers who post things to the
>>> PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of patience wth the
>>> incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.
>>> >>
>>> >> 
>>> >>
>>> >> Rick
>>> >>
>>> >> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> From: Bong Manayon 
>>> >>> Subject: PPG quota
>>> >>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
>>> >>> After a long spell, I uploaded
>>> >>> something in PPG and discovered that we
>>> >>> now have a 

Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jack,
I'm paying for a premium ATT broadband connection here.
The initial splash page takes 5 seconds or so to load.
I brought up 10 recent additions in 32 seconds, one after another.
It gets me impatient to see the little loading bar...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> IF I interpret your experience with the PPG correctly, I feel it's safe to 
> say that I don't have the same experience. From the time I click on PPG, 
> select an "artist" (myself..of course), choose a photo and have it come up is 
> something like 4-6 secs.
> Comcast cable connection.
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>
>> From: Bob Sullivan 
>> Subject: Re: PPG quota
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:37 AM
>> Jostein,
>> On occasion, somebody here will link to the gallery for a
>> photo.
>> I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up more
>> internally.
>> Finally, it will look like it is going to open something,
>> but no,
>> wait, just kidding, not yet!
>> When a picture opens it is nice.
>> I went thru all 100 of yours and they are beautiful (and a
>> major
>> accomplishment).
>> But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs and the
>> gallery is too slow.
>> It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the internet
>> distribution side.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFoto
>> wrote:
>> > Rick,
>> >
>> > You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G by any
>> chance? I really
>> > don't recognise your description...
>> >
>> > I didn't join the foray until half a year after the
>> first invitations
>> > went out. I had read a lot of bitching from many on
>> this list over the
>> > interface, and was very skeptical to begin with. In
>> fact, I wrote to
>> > Pentax and suggested some improvements, both on the
>> gallery display
>> > and the voting page. A few were incorporated too,
>> along with other
>> > changes to improve the interface speed over time. I
>> joined in June,
>> > btw, and the beta stage ended in September 2007.
>> Further improvements
>> > were made later that autumn, and I don't think it's
>> that bad anymore.
>> > I may have grown used to it too, of course.
>> >
>> > Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work praised the
>> site's convenient
>> > interface for browsing images. Without any
>> encouragement from me
>> > except providing the link.
>> >
>> > Jostein
>> >
>> > 2009/8/30 Rick Womer :
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >> I filled in the data form for a PPG account
>> shortly after it opened a few years ago.
>> >>
>> >> Then, I read here and elsewhere about the
>> ridiculous review system, which has only gotten more
>> ridiculous.
>> >>
>> >> I tried to look at people's photos, and found the
>> interface to be slower than an Apple II in Job's garage.
>> >>
>> >> "Screw this", I said, and have never uploaded
>> anything.  When the very few PDMLers who post things to the
>> PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of patience wth the
>> incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >> Rick
>> >>
>> >> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> From: Bong Manayon 
>> >>> Subject: PPG quota
>> >>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
>> >>> After a long spell, I uploaded
>> >>> something in PPG and discovered that we
>> >>> now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should
>> make
>> >>> voting easier...
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Bong Manayon
>> >>> http://www.bong.uni.cc
>> >>>
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>> >>> directly above and follow the directions.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>

Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Jack Davis
IF I interpret your experience with the PPG correctly, I feel it's safe to say 
that I don't have the same experience. From the time I click on PPG, select an 
"artist" (myself..of course), choose a photo and have it come up is something 
like 4-6 secs.
Comcast cable connection.

Jack

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> From: Bob Sullivan 
> Subject: Re: PPG quota
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:37 AM
> Jostein,
> On occasion, somebody here will link to the gallery for a
> photo.
> I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up more
> internally.
> Finally, it will look like it is going to open something,
> but no,
> wait, just kidding, not yet!
> When a picture opens it is nice.
> I went thru all 100 of yours and they are beautiful (and a
> major
> accomplishment).
> But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs and the
> gallery is too slow.
> It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the internet
> distribution side.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFoto
> wrote:
> > Rick,
> >
> > You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G by any
> chance? I really
> > don't recognise your description...
> >
> > I didn't join the foray until half a year after the
> first invitations
> > went out. I had read a lot of bitching from many on
> this list over the
> > interface, and was very skeptical to begin with. In
> fact, I wrote to
> > Pentax and suggested some improvements, both on the
> gallery display
> > and the voting page. A few were incorporated too,
> along with other
> > changes to improve the interface speed over time. I
> joined in June,
> > btw, and the beta stage ended in September 2007.
> Further improvements
> > were made later that autumn, and I don't think it's
> that bad anymore.
> > I may have grown used to it too, of course.
> >
> > Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work praised the
> site's convenient
> > interface for browsing images. Without any
> encouragement from me
> > except providing the link.
> >
> > Jostein
> >
> > 2009/8/30 Rick Womer :
> >> 
> >>
> >> I filled in the data form for a PPG account
> shortly after it opened a few years ago.
> >>
> >> Then, I read here and elsewhere about the
> ridiculous review system, which has only gotten more
> ridiculous.
> >>
> >> I tried to look at people's photos, and found the
> interface to be slower than an Apple II in Job's garage.
> >>
> >> "Screw this", I said, and have never uploaded
> anything.  When the very few PDMLers who post things to the
> PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of patience wth the
> incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: Bong Manayon 
> >>> Subject: PPG quota
> >>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
> >>> After a long spell, I uploaded
> >>> something in PPG and discovered that we
> >>> now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should
> make
> >>> voting easier...
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Bong Manayon
> >>> http://www.bong.uni.cc
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jostein,
On occasion, somebody here will link to the gallery for a photo.
I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up more internally.
Finally, it will look like it is going to open something, but no,
wait, just kidding, not yet!
When a picture opens it is nice.
I went thru all 100 of yours and they are beautiful (and a major
accomplishment).
But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs and the gallery is too slow.
It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the internet distribution side.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
> Rick,
>
> You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G by any chance? I really
> don't recognise your description...
>
> I didn't join the foray until half a year after the first invitations
> went out. I had read a lot of bitching from many on this list over the
> interface, and was very skeptical to begin with. In fact, I wrote to
> Pentax and suggested some improvements, both on the gallery display
> and the voting page. A few were incorporated too, along with other
> changes to improve the interface speed over time. I joined in June,
> btw, and the beta stage ended in September 2007. Further improvements
> were made later that autumn, and I don't think it's that bad anymore.
> I may have grown used to it too, of course.
>
> Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work praised the site's convenient
> interface for browsing images. Without any encouragement from me
> except providing the link.
>
> Jostein
>
> 2009/8/30 Rick Womer :
>> 
>>
>> I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few 
>> years ago.
>>
>> Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which 
>> has only gotten more ridiculous.
>>
>> I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower 
>> than an Apple II in Job's garage.
>>
>> "Screw this", I said, and have never uploaded anything.  When the very few 
>> PDMLers who post things to the PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of 
>> patience wth the incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Bong Manayon 
>>> Subject: PPG quota
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
>>> After a long spell, I uploaded
>>> something in PPG and discovered that we
>>> now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should make
>>> voting easier...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bong Manayon
>>> http://www.bong.uni.cc
>>>
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Rob Studdert
On 31/08/2009, AlunFoto  wrote:
> Rick,
>
> You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G by any chance? I really
> don't recognise your description...

I have been running ADSL 1.5Mb and it was clumsy and slow as a wet
week to load, I do not allow any of my Browsers (IE, FF, Chrome and
Safari).

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-30 Thread AlunFoto
Rick,

You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G by any chance? I really
don't recognise your description...

I didn't join the foray until half a year after the first invitations
went out. I had read a lot of bitching from many on this list over the
interface, and was very skeptical to begin with. In fact, I wrote to
Pentax and suggested some improvements, both on the gallery display
and the voting page. A few were incorporated too, along with other
changes to improve the interface speed over time. I joined in June,
btw, and the beta stage ended in September 2007. Further improvements
were made later that autumn, and I don't think it's that bad anymore.
I may have grown used to it too, of course.

Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work praised the site's convenient
interface for browsing images. Without any encouragement from me
except providing the link.

Jostein

2009/8/30 Rick Womer :
> 
>
> I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few 
> years ago.
>
> Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which has 
> only gotten more ridiculous.
>
> I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower than 
> an Apple II in Job's garage.
>
> "Screw this", I said, and have never uploaded anything.  When the very few 
> PDMLers who post things to the PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of 
> patience wth the incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.
>
> 
>
> Rick
>
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon  wrote:
>
>> From: Bong Manayon 
>> Subject: PPG quota
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
>> After a long spell, I uploaded
>> something in PPG and discovered that we
>> now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should make
>> voting easier...
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.bong.uni.cc
>>
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-30 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Aug 29, 2009, at 19:41 , Rick Womer wrote:

I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be  
slower than an Apple II in Job's garage.



Did anyone see the program "How It's Made?" that I saw last night  
(made in 2008) where they showed how player piano rolls were  
manufactured? I did.


A digital keyboard is played and recorded digitally to an old  
Macintosh, where is shows up as elongated dots and lines on a Mac  
screen. It's then transferred to a 5 1/4 floppy with peeling label as  
an analog file (didn't show how) and that is fed into an old Apple ] 
[ with dual floppies and a green screen Apple monitor just like in the  
the 1979 ads for same. The Apple ][ runs the machine that stamps the  
tunes through 18 layers of the thin oilskin-like paper. The words to  
the song are printed on the paper from a master that is created with  
an old machine that looked like a large Dymo-writer, except it punched  
through the master 3" canvas-like tape.


So 32 years after it was introduced, an Apple ][ is still controlling  
an industrial machine. Huzaa!


Under contract, I once produced an 8 bit board for Apple ][s that  
along with the Basic program I wrote tested continuity on Southern  
Bell (BellSouth) cable breakout fixtures with 6 punch down blocks and  
4 short RS-232 cables as they came to the end of the assembly line. It  
worked great, but paid me little money, of course.


Odds are it is no longer running.


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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
> On 30/08/2009, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> Me four.
>
> Me also, signed up during Beta phase but was disgusted by the
> interface and a few other issues so elected not to contribute.

I contributed during the beta stage, and had 4 of my 5 entries
accepted. Since then i'm 2 for 50.

Dave
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30/08/2009, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Me four.

Me also, signed up during Beta phase but was disgusted by the
interface and a few other issues so elected not to contribute.

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-30 Thread Jack Davis
I agree, Dan. It has, doubtless, been a photo stimulus to many.

Jack

--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
> Subject: Re: PPG quota
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 8:17 PM
> Nothing is perfect, Rick.  The
> Pentax Photo Gallery is a wonderful
> display of interesting images.  It is well worth
> participating in.
> 
> I am often frustrated when they reject one of my favorite
> images, or
> take a long time to "review" one, but I enjoy looking at
> the
> collection and the other entries, and I am grateful that
> Pentax spent
> the time and money to create and maintain it.
> 
> We have all become used to instant gratification, but
> patience is
> still a virtue we all need from time to time.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Rick Womer
> wrote:
> > 
> >
> > I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly
> after it opened a few years ago.
> >
> > Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous
> review system, which has only gotten more ridiculous.
> >
> > I tried to look at people's photos, and found the
> interface to be slower than an Apple II in Job's garage.
> >
> > "Screw this", I said, and have never uploaded
> anything.  When the very few PDMLers who post things to the
> PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of patience wth the
> incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Bong Manayon 
> >> Subject: PPG quota
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
> >> After a long spell, I uploaded
> >> something in PPG and discovered that we
> >> now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should
> make
> >> voting easier...
> >>
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-30 Thread David J Brooks
Me four.

Dave

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Me three!  And I signed up before the gallery opened too!
> Nice images, but a pain in the butt to view or join.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Francis wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 07:41:18PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
>>> 
>>>
>>> I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few 
>>> years ago.
>>>
>>> Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which 
>>> has only gotten more ridiculous.
>>>
>>> I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower 
>>> than an Apple II in Job's garage.
>>>
>>> "Screw this", I said, and have never uploaded anything.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Rick
>>
>> Me too! (except that I signed up shortly *before* the gallery public opening)
>>
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-30 Thread Cotty
On 29/8/09, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower
>than an Apple II in Job's garage.

Rick, I have totally underestimated you! What was a it **really** like
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Me three!  And I signed up before the gallery opened too!
Nice images, but a pain in the butt to view or join.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Francis wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 07:41:18PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
>> 
>>
>> I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few 
>> years ago.
>>
>> Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which 
>> has only gotten more ridiculous.
>>
>> I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower 
>> than an Apple II in Job's garage.
>>
>> "Screw this", I said, and have never uploaded anything.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Rick
>
> Me too! (except that I signed up shortly *before* the gallery public opening)
>
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-29 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 07:41:18PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
> 
> 
> I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few 
> years ago.
> 
> Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which has 
> only gotten more ridiculous.
> 
> I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower than 
> an Apple II in Job's garage.
> 
> "Screw this", I said, and have never uploaded anything.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick

Me too! (except that I signed up shortly *before* the gallery public opening)


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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nothing is perfect, Rick.  The Pentax Photo Gallery is a wonderful
display of interesting images.  It is well worth participating in.

I am often frustrated when they reject one of my favorite images, or
take a long time to "review" one, but I enjoy looking at the
collection and the other entries, and I am grateful that Pentax spent
the time and money to create and maintain it.

We have all become used to instant gratification, but patience is
still a virtue we all need from time to time.

Dan

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> 
>
> I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few 
> years ago.
>
> Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which has 
> only gotten more ridiculous.
>
> I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower than 
> an Apple II in Job's garage.
>
> "Screw this", I said, and have never uploaded anything.  When the very few 
> PDMLers who post things to the PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of 
> patience wth the incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.
>
> 
>
> Rick
>
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon  wrote:
>
>> From: Bong Manayon 
>> Subject: PPG quota
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
>> After a long spell, I uploaded
>> something in PPG and discovered that we
>> now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should make
>> voting easier...
>>
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-29 Thread Rick Womer


I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few years 
ago.

Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which has 
only gotten more ridiculous.

I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower than 
an Apple II in Job's garage.

"Screw this", I said, and have never uploaded anything.  When the very few 
PDMLers who post things to the PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of 
patience wth the incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.



Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon  wrote:

> From: Bong Manayon 
> Subject: PPG quota
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
> After a long spell, I uploaded
> something in PPG and discovered that we
> now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should make
> voting easier...
> 
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-27 Thread Bong Manayon
Okay, I get it now ... we have a quota of 10 per week.  I was not
paying attention when I uploaded something like 9 photos and came back
a day later to find there was only 1 box available.  Still tames the
beast :-)

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> now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should make voting easier...
>
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-27 Thread Jack Davis
Sorta glad they're doing this. Probably won't completely discourage someone 
uploading 27 water droplet images, but will only make it a little less 
convenient.
I hope they're considering a monthly quota..or some such.

Jack

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
> Subject: Re: PPG quota
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 12:08 PM
> It seems that PPG is now limiting
> each submitter to 10 images "UnderReview."
> 
> Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the
> "unload"
> page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos)
> at a time.
> Now, you are limited to one page.  When I went to
> upload today, there
> were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10.  This
> appears to be
> because I have one image that has been sitting in the
> "Submission
> Complete" section for several weeks, although photos I
> submitted at
> the same time or weeks later have been "declined."
> 
> I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned
> out the
> "Declined" section by deleting the photos that were still
> there.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM, 
> wrote:
> > In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M.  Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> > bongmana...@gmail.com
> writes:
> > After a long spell, I  uploaded something in PPG and
> discovered that we
> > now have a quota of 1 upload  a week.  Should make
> voting easier...
> >
> > --
> > Bong  Manayon
> >
> > ==
> > I guess that means that traffic has increased  that
> much since it started.
> >
> > QUITE a change (over time). Might have  something to
> do with Pentax having
> > released new versions of digital cameras more
>  rapidly in recent years.  :-)
> >
> > Marnie
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> > created  them. Albert Einstein
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-27 Thread Sasha Sobol
Daniel, Thanks!
I think it was few weeks ago when I e-mailed them.
Seems pretty slow.

--Sasha

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> Sasha:
>
> I sent in your name and email address to PPG in accordance with their
> instructions.  They should send you a photographer ID that will allow
> you to register.
>
> They don't seem to be responding as quickly as they once did.
>
> Dan
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote:
>> Btw, how do you get into ppg?
>> I I wrote them via "contact us" at ppg site quite some time ago but
>> never got anything from them.
>>
>> --Sasha
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
>> wrote:
>>> It seems that PPG is now limiting each submitter to 10 images "UnderReview."
>>>
>>> Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the "unload"
>>> page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos) at a time.
>>> Now, you are limited to one page.  When I went to upload today, there
>>> were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10.  This appears to be
>>> because I have one image that has been sitting in the "Submission
>>> Complete" section for several weeks, although photos I submitted at
>>> the same time or weeks later have been "declined."
>>>
>>> I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned out the
>>> "Declined" section by deleting the photos that were still there.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM,  wrote:
 In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 bongmana...@gmail.com writes:
 After a long spell, I  uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we
 now have a quota of 1 upload  a week.  Should make voting easier...

 --
 Bong  Manayon

 ==
 I guess that means that traffic has increased  that much since it started.

 QUITE a change (over time). Might have  something to do with Pentax having
 released new versions of digital cameras more  rapidly in recent years.  
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Sasha:

I sent in your name and email address to PPG in accordance with their
instructions.  They should send you a photographer ID that will allow
you to register.

They don't seem to be responding as quickly as they once did.

Dan

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote:
> Btw, how do you get into ppg?
> I I wrote them via "contact us" at ppg site quite some time ago but
> never got anything from them.
>
> --Sasha
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
>> It seems that PPG is now limiting each submitter to 10 images "UnderReview."
>>
>> Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the "unload"
>> page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos) at a time.
>> Now, you are limited to one page.  When I went to upload today, there
>> were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10.  This appears to be
>> because I have one image that has been sitting in the "Submission
>> Complete" section for several weeks, although photos I submitted at
>> the same time or weeks later have been "declined."
>>
>> I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned out the
>> "Declined" section by deleting the photos that were still there.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM,  wrote:
>>> In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
>>> bongmana...@gmail.com writes:
>>> After a long spell, I  uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we
>>> now have a quota of 1 upload  a week.  Should make voting easier...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bong  Manayon
>>>
>>> ==
>>> I guess that means that traffic has increased  that much since it started.
>>>
>>> QUITE a change (over time). Might have  something to do with Pentax having
>>> released new versions of digital cameras more  rapidly in recent years.  :-)
>>>
>>> Marnie
>>>
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-27 Thread Sasha Sobol
Btw, how do you get into ppg?
I I wrote them via "contact us" at ppg site quite some time ago but
never got anything from them.

--Sasha

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> It seems that PPG is now limiting each submitter to 10 images "UnderReview."
>
> Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the "unload"
> page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos) at a time.
> Now, you are limited to one page.  When I went to upload today, there
> were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10.  This appears to be
> because I have one image that has been sitting in the "Submission
> Complete" section for several weeks, although photos I submitted at
> the same time or weeks later have been "declined."
>
> I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned out the
> "Declined" section by deleting the photos that were still there.
>
> Dan
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM,  wrote:
>> In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
>> bongmana...@gmail.com writes:
>> After a long spell, I  uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we
>> now have a quota of 1 upload  a week.  Should make voting easier...
>>
>> --
>> Bong  Manayon
>>
>> ==
>> I guess that means that traffic has increased  that much since it started.
>>
>> QUITE a change (over time). Might have  something to do with Pentax having
>> released new versions of digital cameras more  rapidly in recent years.  :-)
>>
>> Marnie
>>
>> -
>> We  can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
>> created  them. Albert Einstein
>>
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It seems that PPG is now limiting each submitter to 10 images "UnderReview."

Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the "unload"
page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos) at a time.
Now, you are limited to one page.  When I went to upload today, there
were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10.  This appears to be
because I have one image that has been sitting in the "Submission
Complete" section for several weeks, although photos I submitted at
the same time or weeks later have been "declined."

I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned out the
"Declined" section by deleting the photos that were still there.

Dan

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM,  wrote:
> In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
> bongmana...@gmail.com writes:
> After a long spell, I  uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we
> now have a quota of 1 upload  a week.  Should make voting easier...
>
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> I guess that means that traffic has increased  that much since it started.
>
> QUITE a change (over time). Might have  something to do with Pentax having
> released new versions of digital cameras more  rapidly in recent years.  :-)
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-26 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
bongmana...@gmail.com writes:
After a long spell, I  uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we
now have a quota of 1 upload  a week.  Should make voting easier...

-- 
Bong  Manayon

==
I guess that means that traffic has increased  that much since it started.

QUITE a change (over time). Might have  something to do with Pentax having 
released new versions of digital cameras more  rapidly in recent years.  :-)

Marnie

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