Re: PPG quota

2009-09-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for your kind remarks, Jack and Paul.

Although this is one of my favorite images, I think it may have been
viewed as trite.  When I took the image, I had never seen photos of
Peyto Lake, and I was stunned by its beauty.  Since then, I have seen
a number of shots taken from this precise vantage point, and they all
look pretty much the same.  I think that the image may have gotten
enough votes, but that the Pentax reviewers might have said Ho-hum,
not this again.

Thanks for looking.

Dan

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Magnificent shot. Was possibly held for further review which could very well 
 be a compliment to the image. Unfortunately they don't provide a grade.

 Jack

 --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:39 PM
 I had another of those frustrating
 experiences with the PPG.

 Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images,
 including this one:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634

 All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks.
 I submitted several
 more, and they were rejected, but this one remained ready
 for
 review.  Today, finally, it showed up in the
 Declined section.
 Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected
 promptly, but
 when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and
 get
 disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended
 review.

 Dan

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Re: PPG quota

2009-09-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan,
Trite or not, it's still a magnificent image.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for your kind remarks, Jack and Paul.

 Although this is one of my favorite images, I think it may have been
 viewed as trite.  When I took the image, I had never seen photos of
 Peyto Lake, and I was stunned by its beauty.  Since then, I have seen
 a number of shots taken from this precise vantage point, and they all
 look pretty much the same.  I think that the image may have gotten
 enough votes, but that the Pentax reviewers might have said Ho-hum,
 not this again.

 Thanks for looking.

 Dan

 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Magnificent shot. Was possibly held for further review which could very well 
 be a compliment to the image. Unfortunately they don't provide a grade.

 Jack

 --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:39 PM
 I had another of those frustrating
 experiences with the PPG.

 Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images,
 including this one:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634

 All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks.
 I submitted several
 more, and they were rejected, but this one remained ready
 for
 review.  Today, finally, it showed up in the
 Declined section.
 Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected
 promptly, but
 when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and
 get
 disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended
 review.

 Dan

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Re: PPG quota

2009-09-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bob.  It is one of my favorite travel images, which is why I
was bummed out when Pentax rejected it after holding it under review
for so long.

Dan

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dan,
 Trite or not, it's still a magnificent image.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for your kind remarks, Jack and Paul.

 Although this is one of my favorite images, I think it may have been
 viewed as trite.  When I took the image, I had never seen photos of
 Peyto Lake, and I was stunned by its beauty.  Since then, I have seen
 a number of shots taken from this precise vantage point, and they all
 look pretty much the same.  I think that the image may have gotten
 enough votes, but that the Pentax reviewers might have said Ho-hum,
 not this again.

 Thanks for looking.

 Dan

 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Magnificent shot. Was possibly held for further review which could very 
 well be a compliment to the image. Unfortunately they don't provide a grade.

 Jack

 --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:39 PM
 I had another of those frustrating
 experiences with the PPG.

 Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images,
 including this one:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634

 All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks.
 I submitted several
 more, and they were rejected, but this one remained ready
 for
 review.  Today, finally, it showed up in the
 Declined section.
 Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected
 promptly, but
 when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and
 get
 disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended
 review.

 Dan

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Re: PPG quota

2009-09-01 Thread Sasha Sobol
Wow, Daniel- I love that shot.


--Sasha

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Bob.  It is one of my favorite travel images, which is why I
 was bummed out when Pentax rejected it after holding it under review
 for so long.

 Dan

 On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dan,
 Trite or not, it's still a magnificent image.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Thanks for your kind remarks, Jack and Paul.

 Although this is one of my favorite images, I think it may have been
 viewed as trite.  When I took the image, I had never seen photos of
 Peyto Lake, and I was stunned by its beauty.  Since then, I have seen
 a number of shots taken from this precise vantage point, and they all
 look pretty much the same.  I think that the image may have gotten
 enough votes, but that the Pentax reviewers might have said Ho-hum,
 not this again.

 Thanks for looking.

 Dan

 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Magnificent shot. Was possibly held for further review which could very 
 well be a compliment to the image. Unfortunately they don't provide a 
 grade.

 Jack

 --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:39 PM
 I had another of those frustrating
 experiences with the PPG.

 Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images,
 including this one:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634

 All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks.
 I submitted several
 more, and they were rejected, but this one remained ready
 for
 review.  Today, finally, it showed up in the
 Declined section.
 Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected
 promptly, but
 when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and
 get
 disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended
 review.

 Dan

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread AlunFoto
Rick,

You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G by any chance? I really
don't recognise your description...

I didn't join the foray until half a year after the first invitations
went out. I had read a lot of bitching from many on this list over the
interface, and was very skeptical to begin with. In fact, I wrote to
Pentax and suggested some improvements, both on the gallery display
and the voting page. A few were incorporated too, along with other
changes to improve the interface speed over time. I joined in June,
btw, and the beta stage ended in September 2007. Further improvements
were made later that autumn, and I don't think it's that bad anymore.
I may have grown used to it too, of course.

Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work praised the site's convenient
interface for browsing images. Without any encouragement from me
except providing the link.

Jostein

2009/8/30 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:
 rant on

 I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few 
 years ago.

 Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which has 
 only gotten more ridiculous.

 I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower than 
 an Apple II in Job's garage.

 Screw this, I said, and have never uploaded anything.  When the very few 
 PDMLers who post things to the PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of 
 patience wth the incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.

 rant off

 Rick

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


 --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
 Subject: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
 After a long spell, I uploaded
 something in PPG and discovered that we
 now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should make
 voting easier...

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Rob Studdert
On 31/08/2009, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rick,

 You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G by any chance? I really
 don't recognise your description...

I have been running ADSL 1.5Mb and it was clumsy and slow as a wet
week to load, I do not allow any of my Browsers (IE, FF, Chrome and
Safari).

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jostein,
On occasion, somebody here will link to the gallery for a photo.
I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up more internally.
Finally, it will look like it is going to open something, but no,
wait, just kidding, not yet!
When a picture opens it is nice.
I went thru all 100 of yours and they are beautiful (and a major
accomplishment).
But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs and the gallery is too slow.
It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the internet distribution side.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rick,

 You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G by any chance? I really
 don't recognise your description...

 I didn't join the foray until half a year after the first invitations
 went out. I had read a lot of bitching from many on this list over the
 interface, and was very skeptical to begin with. In fact, I wrote to
 Pentax and suggested some improvements, both on the gallery display
 and the voting page. A few were incorporated too, along with other
 changes to improve the interface speed over time. I joined in June,
 btw, and the beta stage ended in September 2007. Further improvements
 were made later that autumn, and I don't think it's that bad anymore.
 I may have grown used to it too, of course.

 Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work praised the site's convenient
 interface for browsing images. Without any encouragement from me
 except providing the link.

 Jostein

 2009/8/30 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:
 rant on

 I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few 
 years ago.

 Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which 
 has only gotten more ridiculous.

 I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower 
 than an Apple II in Job's garage.

 Screw this, I said, and have never uploaded anything.  When the very few 
 PDMLers who post things to the PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of 
 patience wth the incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.

 rant off

 Rick

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


 --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
 Subject: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
 After a long spell, I uploaded
 something in PPG and discovered that we
 now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should make
 voting easier...

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Jack Davis
IF I interpret your experience with the PPG correctly, I feel it's safe to say 
that I don't have the same experience. From the time I click on PPG, select an 
artist (myself..of course), choose a photo and have it come up is something 
like 4-6 secs.
Comcast cable connection.

Jack

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:37 AM
 Jostein,
 On occasion, somebody here will link to the gallery for a
 photo.
 I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up more
 internally.
 Finally, it will look like it is going to open something,
 but no,
 wait, just kidding, not yet!
 When a picture opens it is nice.
 I went thru all 100 of yours and they are beautiful (and a
 major
 accomplishment).
 But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs and the
 gallery is too slow.
 It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the internet
 distribution side.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Rick,
 
  You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G by any
 chance? I really
  don't recognise your description...
 
  I didn't join the foray until half a year after the
 first invitations
  went out. I had read a lot of bitching from many on
 this list over the
  interface, and was very skeptical to begin with. In
 fact, I wrote to
  Pentax and suggested some improvements, both on the
 gallery display
  and the voting page. A few were incorporated too,
 along with other
  changes to improve the interface speed over time. I
 joined in June,
  btw, and the beta stage ended in September 2007.
 Further improvements
  were made later that autumn, and I don't think it's
 that bad anymore.
  I may have grown used to it too, of course.
 
  Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work praised the
 site's convenient
  interface for browsing images. Without any
 encouragement from me
  except providing the link.
 
  Jostein
 
  2009/8/30 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:
  rant on
 
  I filled in the data form for a PPG account
 shortly after it opened a few years ago.
 
  Then, I read here and elsewhere about the
 ridiculous review system, which has only gotten more
 ridiculous.
 
  I tried to look at people's photos, and found the
 interface to be slower than an Apple II in Job's garage.
 
  Screw this, I said, and have never uploaded
 anything.  When the very few PDMLers who post things to the
 PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of patience wth the
 incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.
 
  rant off
 
  Rick
 
  http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
  --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
  Subject: PPG quota
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
  After a long spell, I uploaded
  something in PPG and discovered that we
  now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should
 make
  voting easier...
 
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jack,
I'm paying for a premium ATT broadband connection here.
The initial splash page takes 5 seconds or so to load.
I brought up 10 recent additions in 32 seconds, one after another.
It gets me impatient to see the little loading bar...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 IF I interpret your experience with the PPG correctly, I feel it's safe to 
 say that I don't have the same experience. From the time I click on PPG, 
 select an artist (myself..of course), choose a photo and have it come up is 
 something like 4-6 secs.
 Comcast cable connection.

 Jack

 --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:37 AM
 Jostein,
 On occasion, somebody here will link to the gallery for a
 photo.
 I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up more
 internally.
 Finally, it will look like it is going to open something,
 but no,
 wait, just kidding, not yet!
 When a picture opens it is nice.
 I went thru all 100 of yours and they are beautiful (and a
 major
 accomplishment).
 But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs and the
 gallery is too slow.
 It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the internet
 distribution side.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Rick,
 
  You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G by any
 chance? I really
  don't recognise your description...
 
  I didn't join the foray until half a year after the
 first invitations
  went out. I had read a lot of bitching from many on
 this list over the
  interface, and was very skeptical to begin with. In
 fact, I wrote to
  Pentax and suggested some improvements, both on the
 gallery display
  and the voting page. A few were incorporated too,
 along with other
  changes to improve the interface speed over time. I
 joined in June,
  btw, and the beta stage ended in September 2007.
 Further improvements
  were made later that autumn, and I don't think it's
 that bad anymore.
  I may have grown used to it too, of course.
 
  Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work praised the
 site's convenient
  interface for browsing images. Without any
 encouragement from me
  except providing the link.
 
  Jostein
 
  2009/8/30 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:
  rant on
 
  I filled in the data form for a PPG account
 shortly after it opened a few years ago.
 
  Then, I read here and elsewhere about the
 ridiculous review system, which has only gotten more
 ridiculous.
 
  I tried to look at people's photos, and found the
 interface to be slower than an Apple II in Job's garage.
 
  Screw this, I said, and have never uploaded
 anything.  When the very few PDMLers who post things to the
 PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of patience wth the
 incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.
 
  rant off
 
  Rick
 
  http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
  --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
  Subject: PPG quota
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
  After a long spell, I uploaded
  something in PPG and discovered that we
  now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should
 make
  voting easier...
 
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Jack Davis
What I was clumsily trying to say, the TOTAL time needed from clicking on PPG 
to the opening of a selected artist's image is 'prox 4 - 6 secs.

Jack

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 9:54 AM
 Jack,
 I'm paying for a premium ATT broadband connection here.
 The initial splash page takes 5 seconds or so to load.
 I brought up 10 recent additions in 32 seconds, one after
 another.
 It gets me impatient to see the little loading bar...
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  IF I interpret your experience with the PPG correctly,
 I feel it's safe to say that I don't have the same
 experience. From the time I click on PPG, select an artist
 (myself..of course), choose a photo and have it come up is
 something like 4-6 secs.
  Comcast cable connection.
 
  Jack
 
  --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: PPG quota
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:37 AM
  Jostein,
  On occasion, somebody here will link to the
 gallery for a
  photo.
  I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up
 more
  internally.
  Finally, it will look like it is going to open
 something,
  but no,
  wait, just kidding, not yet!
  When a picture opens it is nice.
  I went thru all 100 of yours and they are
 beautiful (and a
  major
  accomplishment).
  But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs
 and the
  gallery is too slow.
  It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the
 internet
  distribution side.
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Rick,
  
   You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G
 by any
  chance? I really
   don't recognise your description...
  
   I didn't join the foray until half a year
 after the
  first invitations
   went out. I had read a lot of bitching from
 many on
  this list over the
   interface, and was very skeptical to begin
 with. In
  fact, I wrote to
   Pentax and suggested some improvements, both
 on the
  gallery display
   and the voting page. A few were incorporated
 too,
  along with other
   changes to improve the interface speed over
 time. I
  joined in June,
   btw, and the beta stage ended in September
 2007.
  Further improvements
   were made later that autumn, and I don't
 think it's
  that bad anymore.
   I may have grown used to it too, of course.
  
   Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work
 praised the
  site's convenient
   interface for browsing images. Without any
  encouragement from me
   except providing the link.
  
   Jostein
  
   2009/8/30 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:
   rant on
  
   I filled in the data form for a PPG
 account
  shortly after it opened a few years ago.
  
   Then, I read here and elsewhere about
 the
  ridiculous review system, which has only gotten
 more
  ridiculous.
  
   I tried to look at people's photos, and
 found the
  interface to be slower than an Apple II in Job's
 garage.
  
   Screw this, I said, and have never
 uploaded
  anything.  When the very few PDMLers who post
 things to the
  PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of
 patience wth the
  incredibly slow interface long before I've seen
 the photos.
  
   rant off
  
   Rick
  
   http://photo.net/photos/RickW
  
  
   --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
   Subject: PPG quota
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
   Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009,
 7:44 PM
   After a long spell, I uploaded
   something in PPG and discovered that
 we
   now have a quota of 1 upload a
 week.  Should
  make
   voting easier...
  
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread AlunFoto
Hmm...
I may well be that the difference is in expectations rather than
loading speed...

But then again I'm a slowish kinda guy... :-)

Jostein

2009/8/31 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:
 Jack,
 I'm paying for a premium ATT broadband connection here.
 The initial splash page takes 5 seconds or so to load.
 I brought up 10 recent additions in 32 seconds, one after another.
 It gets me impatient to see the little loading bar...
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 IF I interpret your experience with the PPG correctly, I feel it's safe to 
 say that I don't have the same experience. From the time I click on PPG, 
 select an artist (myself..of course), choose a photo and have it come up 
 is something like 4-6 secs.
 Comcast cable connection.

 Jack

 --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:37 AM
 Jostein,
 On occasion, somebody here will link to the gallery for a
 photo.
 I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up more
 internally.
 Finally, it will look like it is going to open something,
 but no,
 wait, just kidding, not yet!
 When a picture opens it is nice.
 I went thru all 100 of yours and they are beautiful (and a
 major
 accomplishment).
 But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs and the
 gallery is too slow.
 It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the internet
 distribution side.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Rick,
 
  You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G by any
 chance? I really
  don't recognise your description...
 
  I didn't join the foray until half a year after the
 first invitations
  went out. I had read a lot of bitching from many on
 this list over the
  interface, and was very skeptical to begin with. In
 fact, I wrote to
  Pentax and suggested some improvements, both on the
 gallery display
  and the voting page. A few were incorporated too,
 along with other
  changes to improve the interface speed over time. I
 joined in June,
  btw, and the beta stage ended in September 2007.
 Further improvements
  were made later that autumn, and I don't think it's
 that bad anymore.
  I may have grown used to it too, of course.
 
  Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work praised the
 site's convenient
  interface for browsing images. Without any
 encouragement from me
  except providing the link.
 
  Jostein
 
  2009/8/30 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:
  rant on
 
  I filled in the data form for a PPG account
 shortly after it opened a few years ago.
 
  Then, I read here and elsewhere about the
 ridiculous review system, which has only gotten more
 ridiculous.
 
  I tried to look at people's photos, and found the
 interface to be slower than an Apple II in Job's garage.
 
  Screw this, I said, and have never uploaded
 anything.  When the very few PDMLers who post things to the
 PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of patience wth the
 incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.
 
  rant off
 
  Rick
 
  http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
  --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
  Subject: PPG quota
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
  After a long spell, I uploaded
  something in PPG and discovered that we
  now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should
 make
  voting easier...
 
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread AlunFoto
I just checked. On a computer that's never visited the PPG before, so
there's no local cache.

12 seconds. I expect it will vary through the day, though.

Jostein

2009/8/31 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:
 What I was clumsily trying to say, the TOTAL time needed from clicking on PPG 
 to the opening of a selected artist's image is 'prox 4 - 6 secs.

 Jack

 --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 9:54 AM
 Jack,
 I'm paying for a premium ATT broadband connection here.
 The initial splash page takes 5 seconds or so to load.
 I brought up 10 recent additions in 32 seconds, one after
 another.
 It gets me impatient to see the little loading bar...
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  IF I interpret your experience with the PPG correctly,
 I feel it's safe to say that I don't have the same
 experience. From the time I click on PPG, select an artist
 (myself..of course), choose a photo and have it come up is
 something like 4-6 secs.
  Comcast cable connection.
 
  Jack
 
  --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: PPG quota
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:37 AM
  Jostein,
  On occasion, somebody here will link to the
 gallery for a
  photo.
  I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up
 more
  internally.
  Finally, it will look like it is going to open
 something,
  but no,
  wait, just kidding, not yet!
  When a picture opens it is nice.
  I went thru all 100 of yours and they are
 beautiful (and a
  major
  accomplishment).
  But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs
 and the
  gallery is too slow.
  It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the
 internet
  distribution side.
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Rick,
  
   You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G
 by any
  chance? I really
   don't recognise your description...
  
   I didn't join the foray until half a year
 after the
  first invitations
   went out. I had read a lot of bitching from
 many on
  this list over the
   interface, and was very skeptical to begin
 with. In
  fact, I wrote to
   Pentax and suggested some improvements, both
 on the
  gallery display
   and the voting page. A few were incorporated
 too,
  along with other
   changes to improve the interface speed over
 time. I
  joined in June,
   btw, and the beta stage ended in September
 2007.
  Further improvements
   were made later that autumn, and I don't
 think it's
  that bad anymore.
   I may have grown used to it too, of course.
  
   Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work
 praised the
  site's convenient
   interface for browsing images. Without any
  encouragement from me
   except providing the link.
  
   Jostein
  
   2009/8/30 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:
   rant on
  
   I filled in the data form for a PPG
 account
  shortly after it opened a few years ago.
  
   Then, I read here and elsewhere about
 the
  ridiculous review system, which has only gotten
 more
  ridiculous.
  
   I tried to look at people's photos, and
 found the
  interface to be slower than an Apple II in Job's
 garage.
  
   Screw this, I said, and have never
 uploaded
  anything.  When the very few PDMLers who post
 things to the
  PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of
 patience wth the
  incredibly slow interface long before I've seen
 the photos.
  
   rant off
  
   Rick
  
   http://photo.net/photos/RickW
  
  
   --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
   Subject: PPG quota
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
   Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009,
 7:44 PM
   After a long spell, I uploaded
   something in PPG and discovered that
 we
   now have a quota of 1 upload a
 week.  Should
  make
   voting easier...
  
   --
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jostein,
Our expectations are indeed different.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 2:54 PM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just checked. On a computer that's never visited the PPG before, so
 there's no local cache.

 12 seconds. I expect it will vary through the day, though.

 Jostein

 2009/8/31 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:
 What I was clumsily trying to say, the TOTAL time needed from clicking on 
 PPG to the opening of a selected artist's image is 'prox 4 - 6 secs.

 Jack

 --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 9:54 AM
 Jack,
 I'm paying for a premium ATT broadband connection here.
 The initial splash page takes 5 seconds or so to load.
 I brought up 10 recent additions in 32 seconds, one after
 another.
 It gets me impatient to see the little loading bar...
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  IF I interpret your experience with the PPG correctly,
 I feel it's safe to say that I don't have the same
 experience. From the time I click on PPG, select an artist
 (myself..of course), choose a photo and have it come up is
 something like 4-6 secs.
  Comcast cable connection.
 
  Jack
 
  --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: PPG quota
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:37 AM
  Jostein,
  On occasion, somebody here will link to the
 gallery for a
  photo.
  I watch it post a gallery header page then spin up
 more
  internally.
  Finally, it will look like it is going to open
 something,
  but no,
  wait, just kidding, not yet!
  When a picture opens it is nice.
  I went thru all 100 of yours and they are
 beautiful (and a
  major
  accomplishment).
  But I'm on a high speed line in the USA suburbs
 and the
  gallery is too slow.
  It's in the design on the Pentax side, not in the
 internet
  distribution side.
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:25 AM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Rick,
  
   You're not connecting via dialup or mobile 3G
 by any
  chance? I really
   don't recognise your description...
  
   I didn't join the foray until half a year
 after the
  first invitations
   went out. I had read a lot of bitching from
 many on
  this list over the
   interface, and was very skeptical to begin
 with. In
  fact, I wrote to
   Pentax and suggested some improvements, both
 on the
  gallery display
   and the voting page. A few were incorporated
 too,
  along with other
   changes to improve the interface speed over
 time. I
  joined in June,
   btw, and the beta stage ended in September
 2007.
  Further improvements
   were made later that autumn, and I don't
 think it's
  that bad anymore.
   I may have grown used to it too, of course.
  
   Last Thursday, btw, a colleague at work
 praised the
  site's convenient
   interface for browsing images. Without any
  encouragement from me
   except providing the link.
  
   Jostein
  
   2009/8/30 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:
   rant on
  
   I filled in the data form for a PPG
 account
  shortly after it opened a few years ago.
  
   Then, I read here and elsewhere about
 the
  ridiculous review system, which has only gotten
 more
  ridiculous.
  
   I tried to look at people's photos, and
 found the
  interface to be slower than an Apple II in Job's
 garage.
  
   Screw this, I said, and have never
 uploaded
  anything.  When the very few PDMLers who post
 things to the
  PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of
 patience wth the
  incredibly slow interface long before I've seen
 the photos.
  
   rant off
  
   Rick
  
   http://photo.net/photos/RickW
  
  
   --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
   Subject: PPG quota
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
   Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009,
 7:44 PM
   After a long spell, I uploaded
   something in PPG and discovered that
 we
   now have a quota of 1 upload a
 week.  Should
  make
   voting easier...
  
   --
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I had another of those frustrating experiences with the PPG.

Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images, including this one:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634

All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks.  I submitted several
more, and they were rejected, but this one remained ready for
review.  Today, finally, it showed up in the Declined section.
Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected promptly, but
when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and get
disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended review.

Dan

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread Jack Davis
Magnificent shot. Was possibly held for further review which could very well be 
a compliment to the image. Unfortunately they don't provide a grade.

Jack

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:39 PM
 I had another of those frustrating
 experiences with the PPG.
 
 Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images,
 including this one:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634
 
 All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks. 
 I submitted several
 more, and they were rejected, but this one remained ready
 for
 review.  Today, finally, it showed up in the
 Declined section.
 Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected
 promptly, but
 when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and
 get
 disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended
 review.
 
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-31 Thread paul stenquist

Nice shot. Better than the majority of landscapes in the gallery.
I think when a pic sits that long it means it passed peer review but  
was rejected by the gallery gods.

Paul
On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I had another of those frustrating experiences with the PPG.

Almost a month ago, I submitted several old scanned images,  
including this one:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9522634

All the others were rejected.  in about 2 weeks.  I submitted several
more, and they were rejected, but this one remained ready for
review.  Today, finally, it showed up in the Declined section.
Somehow, it doesn't bother me when images are rejected promptly, but
when one is held for almost a month, I get my hopes up, and get
disappointed when it is finally rejected after an extended review.

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-30 Thread Cotty
On 29/8/09, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:


I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower
than an Apple II in Job's garage.

Rick, I have totally underestimated you! What was a it **really** like
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-30 Thread David J Brooks
Me four.

Dave

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Me three!  And I signed up before the gallery opened too!
 Nice images, but a pain in the butt to view or join.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 07:41:18PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
 rant on

 I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few 
 years ago.

 Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which 
 has only gotten more ridiculous.

 I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower 
 than an Apple II in Job's garage.

 Screw this, I said, and have never uploaded anything.

 rant off

 Rick

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-30 Thread Jack Davis
I agree, Dan. It has, doubtless, been a photo stimulus to many.

Jack

--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 8:17 PM
 Nothing is perfect, Rick.  The
 Pentax Photo Gallery is a wonderful
 display of interesting images.  It is well worth
 participating in.
 
 I am often frustrated when they reject one of my favorite
 images, or
 take a long time to review one, but I enjoy looking at
 the
 collection and the other entries, and I am grateful that
 Pentax spent
 the time and money to create and maintain it.
 
 We have all become used to instant gratification, but
 patience is
 still a virtue we all need from time to time.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  rant on
 
  I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly
 after it opened a few years ago.
 
  Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous
 review system, which has only gotten more ridiculous.
 
  I tried to look at people's photos, and found the
 interface to be slower than an Apple II in Job's garage.
 
  Screw this, I said, and have never uploaded
 anything.  When the very few PDMLers who post things to the
 PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of patience wth the
 incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.
 
  rant off
 
  Rick
 
  http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
  --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
  Subject: PPG quota
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
  After a long spell, I uploaded
  something in PPG and discovered that we
  now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should
 make
  voting easier...
 
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30/08/2009, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Me four.

Me also, signed up during Beta phase but was disgusted by the
interface and a few other issues so elected not to contribute.

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Rob Studdertdistudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 30/08/2009, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Me four.

 Me also, signed up during Beta phase but was disgusted by the
 interface and a few other issues so elected not to contribute.

I contributed during the beta stage, and had 4 of my 5 entries
accepted. Since then i'm 2 for 50.

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-30 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Aug 29, 2009, at 19:41 , Rick Womer wrote:

I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be  
slower than an Apple II in Job's garage.



Did anyone see the program How It's Made? that I saw last night  
(made in 2008) where they showed how player piano rolls were  
manufactured? I did.


A digital keyboard is played and recorded digitally to an old  
Macintosh, where is shows up as elongated dots and lines on a Mac  
screen. It's then transferred to a 5 1/4 floppy with peeling label as  
an analog file (didn't show how) and that is fed into an old Apple ] 
[ with dual floppies and a green screen Apple monitor just like in the  
the 1979 ads for same. The Apple ][ runs the machine that stamps the  
tunes through 18 layers of the thin oilskin-like paper. The words to  
the song are printed on the paper from a master that is created with  
an old machine that looked like a large Dymo-writer, except it punched  
through the master 3 canvas-like tape.


So 32 years after it was introduced, an Apple ][ is still controlling  
an industrial machine. Huzaa!


Under contract, I once produced an 8 bit board for Apple ][s that  
along with the Basic program I wrote tested continuity on Southern  
Bell (BellSouth) cable breakout fixtures with 6 punch down blocks and  
4 short RS-232 cables as they came to the end of the assembly line. It  
worked great, but paid me little money, of course.


Odds are it is no longer running.


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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-29 Thread Rick Womer
rant on

I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few years 
ago.

Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which has 
only gotten more ridiculous.

I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower than 
an Apple II in Job's garage.

Screw this, I said, and have never uploaded anything.  When the very few 
PDMLers who post things to the PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of 
patience wth the incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.

rant off

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
 Subject: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
 After a long spell, I uploaded
 something in PPG and discovered that we
 now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should make
 voting easier...
 
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nothing is perfect, Rick.  The Pentax Photo Gallery is a wonderful
display of interesting images.  It is well worth participating in.

I am often frustrated when they reject one of my favorite images, or
take a long time to review one, but I enjoy looking at the
collection and the other entries, and I am grateful that Pentax spent
the time and money to create and maintain it.

We have all become used to instant gratification, but patience is
still a virtue we all need from time to time.

Dan

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 rant on

 I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few 
 years ago.

 Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which has 
 only gotten more ridiculous.

 I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower than 
 an Apple II in Job's garage.

 Screw this, I said, and have never uploaded anything.  When the very few 
 PDMLers who post things to the PPG post PESOs there, I usually run out of 
 patience wth the incredibly slow interface long before I've seen the photos.

 rant off

 Rick

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


 --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
 Subject: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:44 PM
 After a long spell, I uploaded
 something in PPG and discovered that we
 now have a quota of 1 upload a week.  Should make
 voting easier...

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-29 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 07:41:18PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
 rant on
 
 I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few 
 years ago.
 
 Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which has 
 only gotten more ridiculous.
 
 I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower than 
 an Apple II in Job's garage.
 
 Screw this, I said, and have never uploaded anything.
 
 rant off
 
 Rick

Me too! (except that I signed up shortly *before* the gallery public opening)


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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Me three!  And I signed up before the gallery opened too!
Nice images, but a pain in the butt to view or join.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 07:41:18PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
 rant on

 I filled in the data form for a PPG account shortly after it opened a few 
 years ago.

 Then, I read here and elsewhere about the ridiculous review system, which 
 has only gotten more ridiculous.

 I tried to look at people's photos, and found the interface to be slower 
 than an Apple II in Job's garage.

 Screw this, I said, and have never uploaded anything.

 rant off

 Rick

 Me too! (except that I signed up shortly *before* the gallery public opening)


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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It seems that PPG is now limiting each submitter to 10 images UnderReview.

Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the unload
page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos) at a time.
Now, you are limited to one page.  When I went to upload today, there
were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10.  This appears to be
because I have one image that has been sitting in the Submission
Complete section for several weeks, although photos I submitted at
the same time or weeks later have been declined.

I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned out the
Declined section by deleting the photos that were still there.

Dan

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 bongmana...@gmail.com writes:
 After a long spell, I  uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we
 now have a quota of 1 upload  a week.  Should make voting easier...

 --
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 ==
 I guess that means that traffic has increased  that much since it started.

 QUITE a change (over time). Might have  something to do with Pentax having
 released new versions of digital cameras more  rapidly in recent years.  :-)

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-27 Thread Sasha Sobol
Btw, how do you get into ppg?
I I wrote them via contact us at ppg site quite some time ago but
never got anything from them.

--Sasha

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 It seems that PPG is now limiting each submitter to 10 images UnderReview.

 Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the unload
 page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos) at a time.
 Now, you are limited to one page.  When I went to upload today, there
 were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10.  This appears to be
 because I have one image that has been sitting in the Submission
 Complete section for several weeks, although photos I submitted at
 the same time or weeks later have been declined.

 I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned out the
 Declined section by deleting the photos that were still there.

 Dan

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 bongmana...@gmail.com writes:
 After a long spell, I  uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we
 now have a quota of 1 upload  a week.  Should make voting easier...

 --
 Bong  Manayon

 ==
 I guess that means that traffic has increased  that much since it started.

 QUITE a change (over time). Might have  something to do with Pentax having
 released new versions of digital cameras more  rapidly in recent years.  :-)

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Sasha:

I sent in your name and email address to PPG in accordance with their
instructions.  They should send you a photographer ID that will allow
you to register.

They don't seem to be responding as quickly as they once did.

Dan

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Btw, how do you get into ppg?
 I I wrote them via contact us at ppg site quite some time ago but
 never got anything from them.

 --Sasha

 On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 It seems that PPG is now limiting each submitter to 10 images UnderReview.

 Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the unload
 page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos) at a time.
 Now, you are limited to one page.  When I went to upload today, there
 were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10.  This appears to be
 because I have one image that has been sitting in the Submission
 Complete section for several weeks, although photos I submitted at
 the same time or weeks later have been declined.

 I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned out the
 Declined section by deleting the photos that were still there.

 Dan

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 bongmana...@gmail.com writes:
 After a long spell, I  uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we
 now have a quota of 1 upload  a week.  Should make voting easier...

 --
 Bong  Manayon

 ==
 I guess that means that traffic has increased  that much since it started.

 QUITE a change (over time). Might have  something to do with Pentax having
 released new versions of digital cameras more  rapidly in recent years.  :-)

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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-27 Thread Sasha Sobol
Daniel, Thanks!
I think it was few weeks ago when I e-mailed them.
Seems pretty slow.

--Sasha

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 Sasha:

 I sent in your name and email address to PPG in accordance with their
 instructions.  They should send you a photographer ID that will allow
 you to register.

 They don't seem to be responding as quickly as they once did.

 Dan

 On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Btw, how do you get into ppg?
 I I wrote them via contact us at ppg site quite some time ago but
 never got anything from them.

 --Sasha

 On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 It seems that PPG is now limiting each submitter to 10 images UnderReview.

 Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the unload
 page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos) at a time.
 Now, you are limited to one page.  When I went to upload today, there
 were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10.  This appears to be
 because I have one image that has been sitting in the Submission
 Complete section for several weeks, although photos I submitted at
 the same time or weeks later have been declined.

 I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned out the
 Declined section by deleting the photos that were still there.

 Dan

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 bongmana...@gmail.com writes:
 After a long spell, I  uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we
 now have a quota of 1 upload  a week.  Should make voting easier...

 --
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 ==
 I guess that means that traffic has increased  that much since it started.

 QUITE a change (over time). Might have  something to do with Pentax having
 released new versions of digital cameras more  rapidly in recent years.  
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-27 Thread Jack Davis
Sorta glad they're doing this. Probably won't completely discourage someone 
uploading 27 water droplet images, but will only make it a little less 
convenient.
I hope they're considering a monthly quota..or some such.

Jack

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PPG quota
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 12:08 PM
 It seems that PPG is now limiting
 each submitter to 10 images UnderReview.
 
 Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the
 unload
 page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos)
 at a time.
 Now, you are limited to one page.  When I went to
 upload today, there
 were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10.  This
 appears to be
 because I have one image that has been sitting in the
 Submission
 Complete section for several weeks, although photos I
 submitted at
 the same time or weeks later have been declined.
 
 I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned
 out the
 Declined section by deleting the photos that were still
 there.
 
 Dan
 
 On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM, eactiv...@aol.com
 wrote:
  In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M.  Pacific
 Daylight Time,
  bongmana...@gmail.com
 writes:
  After a long spell, I  uploaded something in PPG and
 discovered that we
  now have a quota of 1 upload  a week.  Should make
 voting easier...
 
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  ==
  I guess that means that traffic has increased  that
 much since it started.
 
  QUITE a change (over time). Might have  something to
 do with Pentax having
  released new versions of digital cameras more
  rapidly in recent years.  :-)
 
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-27 Thread Bong Manayon
Okay, I get it now ... we have a quota of 10 per week.  I was not
paying attention when I uploaded something like 9 photos and came back
a day later to find there was only 1 box available.  Still tames the
beast :-)

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 After a long spell, I uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we
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Re: PPG quota

2009-08-26 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
bongmana...@gmail.com writes:
After a long spell, I  uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we
now have a quota of 1 upload  a week.  Should make voting easier...

-- 
Bong  Manayon

==
I guess that means that traffic has increased  that much since it started.

QUITE a change (over time). Might have  something to do with Pentax having 
released new versions of digital cameras more  rapidly in recent years.  :-)

Marnie

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