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Adam, Thanks for your thoughts. Pat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/6/08, gldnbearz, discombobulated, unleashed: Canon 1Dxxx? Nikon D3? That's rareified air, folks. I've seen pics of Cotty Dave B., so I expect size to not be an issue for them. We'll take that as a compliment. We will, er yes, we will. Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:53 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: SDM technology lenses On 10/6/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: If you think the D300's bad, try a D3 (or worse, a Canon 1DmIIN) Au contraire mon frere. The 1D series with a 70-200 2.8 balances beautifully and is not heavy at all. My opinion, you understand. That's because by the time you get the camera to eye level it has achieved a low Earth orbit. No wonder i feel lighter these days. Dave William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/6/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: JCOHOWEVER/JCO, the EOS-1d mII N with (non-IS) 70-200/2.8 weighs roughly 5.6lbs (2.54kg). Just to confirm Adam's statement, my P645 with A200/4 weighs 4lbs 11oz (2.12kg). So yeah, your camera is freaking heavy. JCONO ITS NOT YOU FREAKASAURUS MY GOD GET IT RIGHT/JCO -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/6/08, gldnbearz, discombobulated, unleashed: I spent a stint in high school where there was a Video Club complete with full size VHS camcorders (remember those?), spare batteries (3 x8 x1.5), extension cables, mike pacs, etc where we did tapings of newsworthy events around campus. I learned that I didn't have the height size necessary for that line of work. Maybe if I kept at it, I might have. Like I said, if the shoe fits. The cost to me is a chiro visit once a month and realistically looking at maybe another ten years tops at it. I'm trying to downsize soon. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/10 Tue PM 09:25:57 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: SDM technology lenses Who'll be the first to review this one? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-4-5kg-Single-Bick-Anvil/dp/B000MTNJIO/r ef=wl_itt_dp?ie=UTF8coliid=I51ZQYZ28Z0E2colid=WC7E8MODN8EJ Bob 4.5Kg? Used by fairies to make thimbles. Landrover/1DMkIII anvils need to be _at least_ one order of magnitude bigger. Not compared to your anvil collection, anyway... --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Au contraire mon frere. The 1D series with a 70-200 2.8 balances beautifully and is not heavy at all. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Adam, On 6/9/08, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Buffer is small enough that it can be a real issue even when not shooting in continuous advance. I know I had issues with that with both the K100D and the *istD. Can you give some examples of situations when you ran into this? Most of the time, I am doing static stuff, family, friends, those sorts of events. Lot more use during trips, etc. I found the DS to have the best ergonomics overall (the grip on the D is too shallow, the K10D is about midway between the two and the K100D was a almost as nice a handful, but not as solid). Thanks for confirming the ergonomics. Can you give your comments on the view finder differences btwn the DS (prism) and K100D (mirror - which the K200D also has)? Pats -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:07 PM, gldnbearz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Adam, On 6/9/08, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Buffer is small enough that it can be a real issue even when not shooting in continuous advance. I know I had issues with that with both the K100D and the *istD. Can you give some examples of situations when you ran into this? Most of the time, I am doing static stuff, family, friends, those sorts of events. Lot more use during trips, etc. The big problem for me was when I'd shoot a few closely spaced shots. I shoot on the street a lot (architecture, cityscapes and cars mostly), and would easily hit the buffer limit if something popped up right after I'd taken a couple shots. Same thing when bracketing, had to wait for the camera to write out the buffer before taking the next set of bracketed shots. I found this endlessly frustrating with the K100D (and the *istD, which offered a slightly larger buffer, but way slower writes). I found the DS to have the best ergonomics overall (the grip on the D is too shallow, the K10D is about midway between the two and the K100D was a almost as nice a handful, but not as solid). Thanks for confirming the ergonomics. Can you give your comments on the view finder differences btwn the DS (prism) and K100D (mirror - which the K200D also has)? Pats The mirror finder is smaller, noticeably dimmer and somewhat harder to determine critical focus with. I could live with the mirror when using fastish zooms, but with slow lenses or fast primes it was an issue (too dim with the slow lenses, not able to determine critical focus with the fast ones). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:29 PM, gldnbearz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SR requires a larger body unfortunately. Understood I expected that to play a part in the increased size. I found the DS to have the best ergonomics overall (the grip on the D is too shallow, the K10D is about midway between the two and the K100D was a almost as nice a handful, but not as solid). Weight isn't really an issue for me though, I currently shoot with the somewhat heavy Nikon D300. SO recently got the Nikon D300. With the grip an 80-400VR lems, that is one HEAVY sucker. But even the body alone is pretty significant. I have the D200 and the grip really helps in the balance of the camera, especially with the big glass. I keep thinking his encouragement is just so I won't frown upon the D300. ;) Its black, so he's a pro. Think of it that way.LOL Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:29 PM, gldnbearz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SR requires a larger body unfortunately. Understood I expected that to play a part in the increased size. I found the DS to have the best ergonomics overall (the grip on the D is too shallow, the K10D is about midway between the two and the K100D was a almost as nice a handful, but not as solid). Weight isn't really an issue for me though, I currently shoot with the somewhat heavy Nikon D300. SO recently got the Nikon D300. With the grip an 80-400VR lems, that is one HEAVY sucker. But even the body alone is pretty significant. I keep thinking his encouragement is just so I won't frown upon the D300. ;) If you think the D300's bad, try a D3 (or worse, a Canon 1DmIIN) -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/6/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: If you think the D300's bad, try a D3 (or worse, a Canon 1DmIIN) Au contraire mon frere. The 1D series with a 70-200 2.8 balances beautifully and is not heavy at all. My opinion, you understand. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Cotty wrote: On 10/6/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: If you think the D300's bad, try a D3 (or worse, a Canon 1DmIIN) Au contraire mon frere. The 1D series with a 70-200 2.8 balances beautifully and is not heavy at all. My opinion, you understand. My Crown Graphic wouldn't be heavy for Sasquatch, either. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/6/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: My Crown Graphic wouldn't be heavy for Sasquatch, either. I had to Google that. !!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Not compared to your anvil collection, anyway... --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Au contraire mon frere. The 1D series with a 70-200 2.8 balances beautifully and is not heavy at all. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Who'll be the first to review this one? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-4-5kg-Single-Bick-Anvil/dp/B000MTNJIO/r ef=wl_itt_dp?ie=UTF8coliid=I51ZQYZ28Z0E2colid=WC7E8MODN8EJ Bob Not compared to your anvil collection, anyway... --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Au contraire mon frere. The 1D series with a 70-200 2.8 balances beautifully and is not heavy at all. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who'll be the first to review this one? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-4-5kg-Single-Bick-Anvil/dp/B000MTNJIO/r ef=wl_itt_dp?ie=UTF8coliid=I51ZQYZ28Z0E2colid=WC7E8MODN8EJ You don't want a Draper anvil. Trust me. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Canon 1Dxxx? Nikon D3? That's rareified air, folks. I've seen pics of Cotty Dave B., so I expect size to not be an issue for them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/6/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: If you think the D300's bad, try a D3 (or worse, a Canon 1DmIIN) Au contraire mon frere. The 1D series with a 70-200 2.8 balances beautifully and is not heavy at all. My opinion, you understand. -- Cheers, Cotty Balances beautifully? Sure. It certainly does. Not heavy? It weighs more than my 645 Super with winder, AE prism and a 150/3.5 on it. That's heavy. And note the 1DmIII is noticably lighter (due to Canon finally using a modern LiIon battery) -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:40 PM, gldnbearz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Canon 1Dxxx? Nikon D3? That's rareified air, folks. I've seen pics of Cotty Dave B., so I expect size to not be an issue for them. I'm somewhat larger than Dave, and while Cotty's got a couple inches on me, I'm pretty sure I've got a few pounds on him. And 1DmII's are going used for the price of a new K20D these days, N's are somehwat more, but can be had under $2K. D3's are still pricey, but I'm seeing a lot of them locally. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/6/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Who'll be the first to review this one? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-4-5kg-Single-Bick-Anvil/dp/B000MTNJIO/r ef=wl_itt_dp?ie=UTF8coliid=I51ZQYZ28Z0E2colid=WC7E8MODN8EJ Non IS version, tut tut. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/6/08, gldnbearz, discombobulated, unleashed: Canon 1Dxxx? Nikon D3? That's rareified air, folks. I've seen pics of Cotty Dave B., so I expect size to not be an issue for them. We'll take that as a compliment. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/6/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: Not heavy? It weighs more than my 645 Super with winder, AE prism and a 150/3.5 on it. That's heavy. And note the 1DmIII is noticably lighter (due to Canon finally using a modern LiIon battery) Size is everything. Not just cameras. If the shoe fits, right? My point is that to simply say a certain item is absurdly heavy is a non- sequitur. Even a Sasquatch has limits. I spent 4 hours today filming in a Jacobean house, carrying a tripod that weighs 20 lbs and a camera/lens/battery combo that weighs 23 lbs. But I was getting paid for it :) If I was doing it for fun, I would not carry all that. If you're a big person with strong arms and hands like Godzilla's, a D3 or a 1D are not heavy. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Cotty wrote: On 10/6/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: Not heavy? It weighs more than my 645 Super with winder, AE prism and a 150/3.5 on it. That's heavy. And note the 1DmIII is noticably lighter (due to Canon finally using a modern LiIon battery) Size is everything. Not just cameras. If the shoe fits, right? My point is that to simply say a certain item is absurdly heavy is a non- sequitur. Even a Sasquatch has limits. For the record, I didn't intend to call you Sasquatch. I was trying to imply that it's all relative. So I think we are, more or less, in agreement. JCOHOWEVER/JCO, the EOS-1d mII N with (non-IS) 70-200/2.8 weighs roughly 5.6lbs (2.54kg). Just to confirm Adam's statement, my P645 with A200/4 weighs 4lbs 11oz (2.12kg). So yeah, your camera is freaking heavy. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I spent a stint in high school where there was a Video Club complete with full size VHS camcorders (remember those?), spare batteries (3 x8 x1.5), extension cables, mike pacs, etc where we did tapings of newsworthy events around campus. I learned that I didn't have the height size necessary for that line of work. Maybe if I kept at it, I might have. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spent 4 hours today filming in a Jacobean house, carrying a tripod that weighs 20 lbs and a camera/lens/battery combo that weighs 23 lbs. But I was getting paid for it :) If I was doing it for fun, I would not carry all that. If you're a big person with strong arms and hands like Godzilla's, a D3 or a 1D are not heavy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: SDM technology lenses On 10/6/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: If you think the D300's bad, try a D3 (or worse, a Canon 1DmIIN) Au contraire mon frere. The 1D series with a 70-200 2.8 balances beautifully and is not heavy at all. My opinion, you understand. That's because by the time you get the camera to eye level it has achieved a low Earth orbit. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 12:37:24PM -0700, gldnbearz wrote: Can someone educate me on the SDM enabled lenses? Am I correct in understanding that the AF is engaged only if you use the lens with an SDM enabled body? Otherwise the lens if MF only? No. Some of the SDM lenses (the DA* 16-50 and 50-135, at least) also have screwdriver AF, so they will work with older AF bodies. I can use my 16-50 on my *ist-D, and could use it on my PZ-1p (with vignetting). The only SDM lens I know of that is SDM-only (thus requiring a K10D, K20D or K200D) is the 17-70 lens. Note that that actually has SDM in the name of the lens. I assume many (if not all) new lenses will be SDM-only. SO is a bad influence/enabler... I'm being encouraged to upgrade from the istDS to a K200 +/- 50-135 lens, so I'm checking to see what ramifications might be. Not that I *need* the 50-135 when I have the really nice 16-45 and just got the 50-200 this month. Pat, lurker -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't own any SDM lenses however from what I know only one SDM lens needs an SDM enabled body to autofocus, the new 17-70mm f4.0. All other SDM lenses, up till now, also support the screwdriver drive used on the *ist-D[x] and K100 bodies. gldnbearz wrote: Can someone educate me on the SDM enabled lenses? Am I correct in understanding that the AF is engaged only if you use the lens with an SDM enabled body? Otherwise the lens if MF only? SO is a bad influence/enabler... I'm being encouraged to upgrade from the istDS to a K200 +/- 50-135 lens, so I'm checking to see what ramifications might be. Not that I *need* the 50-135 when I have the really nice 16-45 and just got the 50-200 this month. Pat, lurker -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for the responses. It seem like there is no reason there not to upgrade - although I'm still looking for good excuses... On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:44 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't own any SDM lenses however from what I know only one SDM lens needs an SDM enabled body to autofocus, the new 17-70mm f4.0. All other SDM lenses, up till now, also support the screwdriver drive used on the *ist-D[x] and K100 bodies. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The DA* 16-50 and DA* 50-135 autofocus on both my K10D using SDM or my *istD using the old screwdriver method. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, June 9, 2008, 12:37:24 PM, you wrote: g Can someone educate me on the SDM enabled lenses? Am I correct in g understanding that the AF is engaged only if you use the lens with an g SDM enabled body? Otherwise the lens if MF only? g SO is a bad influence/enabler... I'm being encouraged to upgrade g from the istDS to a K200 +/- 50-135 lens, so I'm checking to see what g ramifications might be. Not that I *need* the 50-135 when I have the g really nice 16-45 and just got the 50-200 this month. g Pat, lurker -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The DA*'s offer both options (SDM and screwdriver), the sole DA SDM lens (the 17-70) only does SDM. I'd look very carefully at the K200D as an upgrade from the DS, it's a downgrade in many ways (smaller buffer, worse viewfinder, only P-TTL flash) but does give weather-sealing, a grip, more pixels and SR. A used K10D would give more camera for much less money as it lacks the limitations of the K200D other than flash protocols (P-TTL only as well, but it can wirelessly command). -Adam On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM, gldnbearz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone educate me on the SDM enabled lenses? Am I correct in understanding that the AF is engaged only if you use the lens with an SDM enabled body? Otherwise the lens if MF only? SO is a bad influence/enabler... I'm being encouraged to upgrade from the istDS to a K200 +/- 50-135 lens, so I'm checking to see what ramifications might be. Not that I *need* the 50-135 when I have the really nice 16-45 and just got the 50-200 this month. Pat, lurker -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Adam, The tempting features of the K200D are the shake reduction, weather sealing, and the fact that it takes AA batteries. I have an Optio with a proprietary charger. Can't say as I always know where the charger is when I need it. I knew about the viewfinder issue with the K200D, didn't know about the buffer (don't know how it would affect the kind of photos I take), and do have a 360 flash so P-TTL only might not be a problem. Again, not sure of the outcome. Biggest draw back is I like the compact physical size of the DS. Any upgrade would include a size/weight upgrade as well, I'm afraid. Would anyone who has made this switch care to comment? Pat On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd look very carefully at the K200D as an upgrade from the DS, it's a downgrade in many ways (smaller buffer, worse viewfinder, only P-TTL flash) but does give weather-sealing, a grip, more pixels and SR. A used K10D would give more camera for much less money as it lacks the limitations of the K200D other than flash protocols (P-TTL only as well, but it can wirelessly command). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 02:37:31PM -0700, gldnbearz wrote: Hi Adam, The tempting features of the K200D are the shake reduction, a used K10D will have that weather sealing, and that and the fact that it takes AA batteries. but not that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Also the DS weighs 18oz (~540g) vs K10D (793g w/ batt) vs K200D (24.3oz/730g w/ lithium AAs). Higher MP is nice, but not essential as that invariably leads to larger memory cards then larger hard drives. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:06 PM, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 02:37:31PM -0700, gldnbearz wrote: Hi Adam, The tempting features of the K200D are the shake reduction, a used K10D will have that weather sealing, and that and the fact that it takes AA batteries. but not that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:37 PM, gldnbearz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Adam, The tempting features of the K200D are the shake reduction, weather sealing, and the fact that it takes AA batteries. I have an Optio with a proprietary charger. Can't say as I always know where the charger is when I need it. Note that the battery life of a K10D or K20D is much longer than a PS with a proprietary charger. 500+ shots in RAW is quite doable, and twice that with a grip. A single spare battery is all I've ever found the need for with most of my DSLR's (the Canon 10D was the exception, rather poor battery life). I knew about the viewfinder issue with the K200D, didn't know about the buffer (don't know how it would affect the kind of photos I take), and do have a 360 flash so P-TTL only might not be a problem. Again, not sure of the outcome. The Buffer is small enough that it can be a real issue even when not shooting in continuous advance. I know I had issues with that with both the K100D and the *istD. Biggest draw back is I like the compact physical size of the DS. Any upgrade would include a size/weight upgrade as well, I'm afraid. Would anyone who has made this switch care to comment? Pat SR requires a larger body unfortunately. I found the DS to have the best ergonomics overall (the grip on the D is too shallow, the K10D is about midway between the two and the K100D was a almost as nice a handful, but not as solid). Weight isn't really an issue for me though, I currently shoot with the somewhat heavy Nikon D300. -Adam -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Adam Maas wrote: Note that the battery life of a K10D or K20D is much longer than a PS with a proprietary charger. 500+ shots in RAW is quite doable, and twice that with a grip. No doubt. I can't speak for the K20D, but my K10D regularly goes to 900 or more shots per charge. I generally chimp very little, and rarely use the flash, so virtually all of the energy gets used capturing and saving the photos. I change the battery as soon as it stops showing Full on the meter. If I weren't so paranoid, I could've left the charger at home for my last week-long vacation and just taken the charged backup pack. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SR requires a larger body unfortunately. Understood I expected that to play a part in the increased size. I found the DS to have the best ergonomics overall (the grip on the D is too shallow, the K10D is about midway between the two and the K100D was a almost as nice a handful, but not as solid). Weight isn't really an issue for me though, I currently shoot with the somewhat heavy Nikon D300. SO recently got the Nikon D300. With the grip an 80-400VR lems, that is one HEAVY sucker. But even the body alone is pretty significant. I keep thinking his encouragement is just so I won't frown upon the D300. ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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gldnbearz a écrit : Can someone educate me on the SDM enabled lenses? Am I correct in understanding that the AF is engaged only if you use the lens with an SDM enabled body? Otherwise the lens if MF only? SO is a bad influence/enabler... I'm being encouraged to upgrade from the istDS to a K200 +/- 50-135 lens, so I'm checking to see what ramifications might be. Not that I *need* the 50-135 when I have the really nice 16-45 and just got the 50-200 this month. Read the FAQ at! http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=10527486 / Q: Will PENTAX be developing SDM-only lenses from now on? A: No: Despite the great advantages of our SDM autofocus systems, we will continue to develop both SDM and body-based focus systems. In fact, different types of lenses have different requirements. For example, our unique Limited lenses are often so compact that there is no space for an SDM autofocus motor. Until time and technology present other options, we will continue to develop both types of autofocus systems. Remark: Current DA* lenses (16-50mm, 50-135mm, 200mm and 300mm) contain both SDM and body-based focusing. While we will continue to develop lenses for each type of autofocus system, we will also phase out lenses that support both types of focusing simultaneously. Due to issues of cost, development timeframe and other factors, in the future, PENTAX lenses will either support SDM focusing or body-based focusing, but not both. / -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
