Re: The Death Penalty
2011/3/2 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: some things ~need~ to be in colour. not to mention photos =P still, spoken like a wise man =) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Death Penalty
Le 02/03/11 03:11, frank theriault a écrit : I'm disappointed to hear that, but c'est la vie... so am I . :-((( I had only seen this as a BW postcard . Colour makes it weaker IMHO ... could it be I am a BW freak after all dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The Death Penalty
I'm totally against the death penalty (sorry for starting a political thread). But in the case of the person who colourized this photo: http://alaintruong.canalblog.com/archives/2009/04/15/13399690.html I say, string him up! When I was answering Darren Addy on another thread, I was looking for a proper rendition of this masterpiece to tack onto my reply. When doing a Google search I came across this (there were a few others that were colourized, too). Why would anyone do this? Why? I'm outraged. rant over cheers, frank Put the noose away, Frank - you may be about to hang an innocent man! It is not the usual frame that we see. As Ann has said, it was a commercial shoot, and the boy was supposed to look behind when he was level with the pebble that you see on the ground. By coincidence I bought a tin of Erwitt notecards a few days ago, and the usual bw frame is in that set. I have just compared them and they are quite clearly different shots. This one may well have been shot in colour, EE covering himself in case it was preferred. I think it looks like a colour original, not a colourized version. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Death Penalty
Frank, you sound like you're about to start People for the Ethical Treatment of Greyscales - cool down, man! 2011/3/1 Bob W p...@web-options.com: I'm totally against the death penalty (sorry for starting a political thread). But in the case of the person who colourized this photo: http://alaintruong.canalblog.com/archives/2009/04/15/13399690.html I say, string him up! When I was answering Darren Addy on another thread, I was looking for a proper rendition of this masterpiece to tack onto my reply. When doing a Google search I came across this (there were a few others that were colourized, too). Why would anyone do this? Why? I'm outraged. rant over cheers, frank Put the noose away, Frank - you may be about to hang an innocent man! It is not the usual frame that we see. As Ann has said, it was a commercial shoot, and the boy was supposed to look behind when he was level with the pebble that you see on the ground. By coincidence I bought a tin of Erwitt notecards a few days ago, and the usual bw frame is in that set. I have just compared them and they are quite clearly different shots. This one may well have been shot in colour, EE covering himself in case it was preferred. I think it looks like a colour original, not a colourized version. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Death Penalty
I'm forever surprised to encounter those who don't seem to relate to photos unless they contain bright colors. Preferably screaming REDS. Why, indeed! Jack --- On Mon, 2/28/11, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: The Death Penalty To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 7:20 PM I'm totally against the death penalty (sorry for starting a political thread). But in the case of the person who colourized this photo: http://alaintruong.canalblog.com/archives/2009/04/15/13399690.html I say, string him up! When I was answering Darren Addy on another thread, I was looking for a proper rendition of this masterpiece to tack onto my reply. When doing a Google search I came across this (there were a few others that were colourized, too). Why would anyone do this? Why? I'm outraged. rant over cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The Death Penalty
From: frank theriault I'm totally against the death penalty (sorry for starting a political thread). But in the case of the person who colourized this photo: http://alaintruong.canalblog.com/archives/2009/04/15/13399690.html I say, string him up! When I was answering Darren Addy on another thread, I was looking for a proper rendition of this masterpiece to tack onto my reply. When doing a Google search I came across this (there were a few others that were colourized, too). Why would anyone do this? Why? I'm outraged. rant over It says Signed lower edge. Signed, titled and dated on verso. ... so perhaps it is done either by Mr. Erwitt himself or with his permission. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3472 - Release Date: 02/27/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Death Penalty
Maybe it's because we actually see in colour, and it seems unnecessarily restrictive to eliminate that information? Even, possibly, counter-productive; when the absence of colour becomes the principle feature of the image, it takes attention away from the actual subject matter. I find the BW purists about as convincing as any other zealots. If they choose to value things that way, so be it. But don't try to persuade me that theirs is the one true way. And attempting to belittle a different choice by intimating that anyone who appreciates colour photographs is an ignoramus seduced by over- saturated REDS is the sort of strawman argument I would expect to hear from someone who can't come up with anything more convincing. On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 05:20:15AM -0800, Jack Davis wrote: I'm forever surprised to encounter those who don't seem to relate to photos unless they contain bright colors. Preferably screaming REDS. Why, indeed! Jack --- On Mon, 2/28/11, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: The Death Penalty To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 7:20 PM I'm totally against the death penalty (sorry for starting a political thread). But in the case of the person who colourized this photo: http://alaintruong.canalblog.com/archives/2009/04/15/13399690.html I say, string him up! When I was answering Darren Addy on another thread, I was looking for a proper rendition of this masterpiece to tack onto my reply.? When doing a Google search I came across this (there were a few others that were colourized, too). Why would anyone do this? Why? I'm outraged. rant over cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.? -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Death Penalty
From: Jack Davis I'm forever surprised to encounter those who don't seem to relate to photos unless they contain bright colors. Preferably screaming REDS. Why, indeed! Jack Balanced, I think, by those who abhor color. Both have their place. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3472 - Release Date: 02/27/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Death Penalty
I'm using a BW monitor, looks fine to me. Dave On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:20 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I'm totally against the death penalty (sorry for starting a political thread). But in the case of the person who colourized this photo: http://alaintruong.canalblog.com/archives/2009/04/15/13399690.html I say, string him up! When I was answering Darren Addy on another thread, I was looking for a proper rendition of this masterpiece to tack onto my reply. When doing a Google search I came across this (there were a few others that were colourized, too). Why would anyone do this? Why? I'm outraged. rant over cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Death Penalty
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:33 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: Maybe it's because we actually see in colour, and it seems unnecessarily restrictive to eliminate that information? Even, possibly, counter-productive; when the absence of colour becomes the principle feature of the image, it takes attention away from the actual subject matter. I find the BW purists about as convincing as any other zealots. If they choose to value things that way, so be it. But don't try to persuade me that theirs is the one true way. And attempting to belittle a different choice by intimating that anyone who appreciates colour photographs is an ignoramus seduced by over- saturated REDS is the sort of strawman argument I would expect to hear from someone who can't come up with anything more convincing. For the record, my beef with the photo I showed is that I thought it was originally BW and that it had been colourized by some charlatan (who then forged a signature). It seems that I was wrong, and that it was a staged photo, originally in colour. I'm disappointed to hear that, but c'est la vie... I prefer BW for some work, but as anyone who saw the nature photos I took last year (and will soon be taking again with the advent of spring), some things ~need~ to be in colour. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Death Penalty
Just to make you mad. It's personal, Frank. it's revenge for all the color pictures you've desaturated. -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:20:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail ListPDML@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: The Death Penalty I'm totally against the death penalty (sorry for starting a political thread). But in the case of the person who colourized this photo: http://alaintruong.canalblog.com/archives/2009/04/15/13399690.html I say, string him up! When I was answering Darren Addy on another thread, I was looking for a proper rendition of this masterpiece to tack onto my reply. When doing a Google search I came across this (there were a few others that were colourized, too). Why would anyone do this? Why? I'm outraged. rant over cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Death Penalty
Frank, The original is color - note it says dye transfer print and is signed by Erwitt... I think this was done as commercial work, btw.. so don't be pissed ! :-) annsan Erwitt fan frank theriault wrote: I'm totally against the death penalty (sorry for starting a political thread). But in the case of the person who colourized this photo: http://alaintruong.canalblog.com/archives/2009/04/15/13399690.html I say, string him up! When I was answering Darren Addy on another thread, I was looking for a proper rendition of this masterpiece to tack onto my reply. When doing a Google search I came across this (there were a few others that were colourized, too). Why would anyone do this? Why? I'm outraged. rant over cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
