Re: The economics of Digital photography.

[P.J. Alling]

On 9/22/2015 1:49 PM, John wrote:

On 9/22/2015 12:09 AM, Bill wrote:

On 21/09/2015 7:11 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

All that's assuming that you don't already own, or want to own a
computer.


All well and good, but I wouldn't have an 8 core CPU and 32gigs of RAM
were it not for digital photography.




True, but is that a good thing or a bad thing?

I consider it a good thing if you're running an OS that hogs ram, and 
what OS doesn't these days.


Personally I'm running a 6 Core system, with only 4 gig of ram, but I'm 
also running WinXP on my photo machine, mostly for hardware 
compatibility.  More ram would be superfluous, though to bring it up to 
16 gig would be only about, (I was going to say $200, for the same 
quality memory, I'm using now, but I just checked prices and it would 
be, get this), $74.  Which is all my MB supports.


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Re: The economics of Digital photography.

[John]

On 9/22/2015 12:09 AM, Bill wrote:

On 21/09/2015 7:11 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

All that's assuming that you don't already own, or want to own a
computer.


All well and good, but I wouldn't have an 8 core CPU and 32gigs of RAM
were it not for digital photography.




True, but is that a good thing or a bad thing?

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Re: The economics of Digital photography.

[Rick Womer]

Well, my work computer is a late 2008 MacBook Pro, updated with an SSHD and 
Yosemite. At work it's in a docking station with an external keyboard, a mouse, 
a printer, and a 24 in. monitor.

At home, there is a lovely iMac. My wife uses it for her work, and she works a 
lot.

So, a few years ago I got a Mac Mini, a 24 in monitor, a keyboard, trackball, 
i1 Display, and two external hard drives for photos. One of these days I'll 
upgrade the internal hard drive to an SSHD.

All I use it for is photos and PDML. I don't pollute it with work. So, it's a 
photo expense.

Rick


On Sep 22, 2015, at 1:38 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> Why? I'd have my computer system today anyway. Maybe not the calibration 
> equipment, but everything else. I do a lot more with my computer than just 
> process photographs. 
> 
> G
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> 
>> Of course, you have to factor in the cost of the computer, storage, monitor, 
>> software, and calibration equipment.
>> 
>> I think digital is still cheaper than film, but far from "free".
>> 
>> Someday I might figure it all out... maybe.
> 
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Re: The economics of Digital photography.

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Why? I'd have my computer system today anyway. Maybe not the calibration 
equipment, but everything else. I do a lot more with my computer than just 
process photographs. 

G

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Of course, you have to factor in the cost of the computer, storage, monitor, 
> software, and calibration equipment.
> 
> I think digital is still cheaper than film, but far from "free".
> 
> Someday I might figure it all out... maybe.


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Re: The economics of Digital photography.

[P.J. Alling]

No, but 6 core and 16 gig's would probably do.  Not all that expensive 
to build, and is a slightly below average gaming machine, or software 
development workstation.  More than enough power for digital image 
rendering. What you've got will probably let you produce you're pro 
quality movies.


On 9/22/2015 12:09 AM, Bill wrote:

On 21/09/2015 7:11 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

All that's assuming that you don't already own, or want to own a
computer.


All well and good, but I wouldn't have an 8 core CPU and 32gigs of RAM 
were it not for digital photography.






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Re: The economics of Digital photography.

[P.J. Alling]

All that's assuming that you don't already own, or want to own a 
computer.  Remember a computer can not only take the place of a Slide 
viewer/projecter, but an entire darkroom.  A good quality enlarger could 
cost at least as much as a mid range computer system, before investing 
in enlarging lenses.  In addition, a computer can be used as a 
communications device, a movie viewer, it gives access to libraries of 
information and data, not to mention pornography and cat pictures...


I suppose that Pornography and Cat pictures are the same thing to some 
people, especially if they're Japanese


http://www.weirdasianews.com/2015/09/18/japan-loves-women-in-cat-themed-lingerie/

On 9/21/2015 8:46 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Of course, you have to factor in the cost of the computer, storage, monitor, 
software, and calibration equipment.

I think digital is still cheaper than film, but far from "free".

Someday I might figure it all out... maybe.

Rick

On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:02 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:


You know it's funny, I hadn't thought about this in a long time, but:  It was 
always touted that you paid more for a modern digital camera than an equivalent 
film camera, up front, and saved on the cost of processing the film over time.  
It just occurred to me that I spent more in both nominal and inflation adjusted 
terms on my last purchased Pentax LX during the film era, than I did for my 
K-5II, true I bought both used, but still price per frame shot is much lower 
with the K-5II in fact it's essentially free, almost literally.

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Re: The economics of Digital photography.

[Rick Womer]

Of course, you have to factor in the cost of the computer, storage, monitor, 
software, and calibration equipment.

I think digital is still cheaper than film, but far from "free".

Someday I might figure it all out... maybe.

Rick

On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:02 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

> You know it's funny, I hadn't thought about this in a long time, but:  It was 
> always touted that you paid more for a modern digital camera than an 
> equivalent film camera, up front, and saved on the cost of processing the 
> film over time.  It just occurred to me that I spent more in both nominal and 
> inflation adjusted terms on my last purchased Pentax LX during the film era, 
> than I did for my K-5II, true I bought both used, but still price per frame 
> shot is much lower with the K-5II in fact it's essentially free, almost 
> literally.
> 
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Re: The economics of Digital photography.

[Bill]

On 21/09/2015 7:11 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

All that's assuming that you don't already own, or want to own a
computer.


All well and good, but I wouldn't have an 8 core CPU and 32gigs of RAM 
were it not for digital photography.



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RE: The economics of Digital photography.

[Malcolm Smith]

P.J. Alling wrote:
 
> You know it's funny, I hadn't thought about this in a long time, but:
> It was always touted that you paid more for a modern digital camera
> than an equivalent film camera, up front, and saved on the cost of
> processing the film over time.  It just occurred to me that I spent
> more in both nominal and inflation adjusted terms on my last purchased
> Pentax LX during the film era, than I did for my K-5II, true I bought
> both used, but still price per frame shot is much lower with the K-5II
> in fact it's essentially free, almost literally.

More practical today as well, but having used an LX recently, not as much
fun. You can't have everything.

Malcolm


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