Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
Bipin, I solve this "issue" in a rather simple manner: 1. I have a very portable Ricoh GXR camera with me at all times during the day. So I take pictures whenever I feel like it. 2. I prune my PDML inbox from my cell phone from wherever I am. 3. I don't read all PDML message but only those that I think are interesting to me... On 8/28/2012 7:19 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: I have a very enthusiastic photographer friend who wished to form another Pentax Mail In Forum called iPentax. I wrote back telling him that there is already a very interesting one called PDML. He agreed, but said that he was once a member of PDML but spent too much time reading PDML mail in his Inbox, and less time on his actual photography. Many a time the number of mails on the same topic was overwhelming, with little or no inputs to stimulate his grey cells and his photography. Perhaps we can ponder on this issue with ways to prune down the number of "non-issue" mails that help only to fatten up the Inbox. The British call it "cotton wooling". I may have stirred the hornets nest, but I took a sincere and calculated risk to highlight this issue to all of you. I beg pardon. Bipin. camp: San Mateo, California and not from the far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:57:28 +0100 "Bob W" wrote: > > So far no one has remarked that India a very large place with a > > population of more than twice North Ameraica's has 40 whole Pentax > > users! Well done Pentax. (Not making fun of you Subash, making fun > > of Pentax marketing, which is really to easy). > > Have a look at the way wealth is distributed in India and it may be > easier to understand. Maybe there are only 41 people in India who can > afford a Pentax. Bob, i realise that's partly said tongue in cheek and while true, that's not the whole story. true that 'modern' capitalist economy has only made worse traditional imbalances (which were/ are quite bad). the number of new shiny audis, bmws, porsches and mercs on the road (all of them have factories here now except porsche i think) is practically obscene given the large and visible number of people living under what the government euphemistically describes as the 'poverty line'. as in modern democracies elsewhere, the government seems to gift away vast swathes of national resources rather cheaply to corporations to the benefit of a few individuals directly and the short-term benefit of the middle-classes indirectly. the number of kick-back scams in the last two years alone has been unbelievable. all that is depressing no doubt. but like i said that's not the whole story. dslrs, why even cameras, were unaffordable once. my first ever camera was a digital p&s which i bought at the age of 42 and i bought myself my first dslr four years later (the *ist DS). it's not that bad now. there is a huge and rising middle-class population with money to throw around (about 500 million at the last count; not too sure of the figures). nikon, canon and sony are everywhere. but pentax can be got only through the grey market and if anything goes wrong, you are on your own. from what i can see, the k-x seems to have brought in more people to the fold than any other new pentax dslr -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
I can only just imagine what would have resulted if you'd edited that on an iPhone! :) Sent from my iPod On 2012-08-29, at 4:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:32 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote: > >> It would be pdml threads if they flew into uncharted territory rather than >> falling into well worn ruts. > > Arrgh, editing on the phone. I meant to type > > It would be better if pdml threads flew into uncharted territory rather than > falling into well worn ruts. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
on 2012-08-29 8:02 Steven Desjardins wrote Gmail solves this problem for me. It only shows the top 50 threads. If you go to page 2 you're dead to me. are you using "Priority inbox" or just letting the last 50 threads with a reply float up? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:32 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote: > It would be pdml threads if they flew into uncharted territory rather than > falling into well worn ruts. Arrgh, editing on the phone. I meant to type It would be better if pdml threads flew into uncharted territory rather than falling into well worn ruts. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
From: lrc It would be pdml threads if they flew into uncharted territory rather than falling into well worn ruts. More like they follow well worn ruts into uncharted territory. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > P. J. Alling > > So far no one has remarked that India a very large place with a > population of more than twice North Ameraica's has 40 whole Pentax > users! Well done Pentax. (Not making fun of you Subash, making fun of > Pentax marketing, which is really to easy). Have a look at the way wealth is distributed in India and it may be easier to understand. Maybe there are only 41 people in India who can afford a Pentax. B > > On 8/28/2012 1:15 AM, Subash Jeyan wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:19:12 -0700 > > Bipin Gupta wrote: > > > >> I have a very enthusiastic photographer friend who wished to form > >> another Pentax Mail In Forum called iPentax. I wrote back telling > >> him that there is already a very interesting one called PDML. > >> He agreed, but said that he was once a member of PDML but spent too > >> much time reading PDML mail in his Inbox, and less time on his > actual > >> photography. > > since i have a feeling the OP might be referring to me (not that it > > matters in the larger scheme of things :)) about two and a half years > > back i started a googlegroup for pentax users in india (there are > > about > > 40 of us there now). mainly because pentax doesn't have an official > > presence in india, it is difficult to get pentax gear here unless one > > has relatives/friends abroad, so a forum like that, among other > > things, is very helpful to circulate available second-hand stuff > > around. we also, now and then, post photos and discuss other things. > > it's a low-volume mailing list and it serves its purpose. > > > > but i don't recall saying anything on the above line to the OP :) and > > i am still very much here in PDML and enjoying the conversations to > boot. > > imagine PDML without OT or flame war epics :) > > > > what *is* bothering me is, i can't for the life of me figure out why > > this guy called steve cottrell is trying to convince us that he is > > actually cotty... > > > > > -- > Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to > avoid a lengthly search. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
It would be pdml threads if they flew into uncharted territory rather than falling into well worn ruts. "P. J. Alling" wrote: >Threads fly off into uncharted territory? I never would have >guessed... > >On 8/28/2012 11:50 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >> Of course, subject lines mean little when the thread flies off into >> uncharted territory. Not all that time consuming to figure that out, >> however. >> >> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Subash wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Brian Walters >>> wrote: Quoting Subash Jeyan : > what *is* bothering me is, i can't for the life of me figure out >why > this guy called steve cottrell is trying to convince us that he is > actually cotty... Steve Cottrell >> Cotty! Surely not. Next you'll be telling us that Bill Robb is actually Knarf.. >>> we live in confusing times >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >and follow the directions. >> >> > > >-- >Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to >avoid a lengthly search. > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
So far no one has remarked that India a very large place with a population of more than twice North Ameraica's has 40 whole Pentax users! Well done Pentax. (Not making fun of you Subash, making fun of Pentax marketing, which is really to easy). On 8/28/2012 1:15 AM, Subash Jeyan wrote: On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:19:12 -0700 Bipin Gupta wrote: I have a very enthusiastic photographer friend who wished to form another Pentax Mail In Forum called iPentax. I wrote back telling him that there is already a very interesting one called PDML. He agreed, but said that he was once a member of PDML but spent too much time reading PDML mail in his Inbox, and less time on his actual photography. since i have a feeling the OP might be referring to me (not that it matters in the larger scheme of things :)) about two and a half years back i started a googlegroup for pentax users in india (there are about 40 of us there now). mainly because pentax doesn't have an official presence in india, it is difficult to get pentax gear here unless one has relatives/friends abroad, so a forum like that, among other things, is very helpful to circulate available second-hand stuff around. we also, now and then, post photos and discuss other things. it's a low-volume mailing list and it serves its purpose. but i don't recall saying anything on the above line to the OP :) and i am still very much here in PDML and enjoying the conversations to boot. imagine PDML without OT or flame war epics :) what *is* bothering me is, i can't for the life of me figure out why this guy called steve cottrell is trying to convince us that he is actually cotty... -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
Threads fly off into uncharted territory? I never would have guessed... On 8/28/2012 11:50 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Of course, subject lines mean little when the thread flies off into uncharted territory. Not all that time consuming to figure that out, however. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Subash wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Subash Jeyan : what *is* bothering me is, i can't for the life of me figure out why this guy called steve cottrell is trying to convince us that he is actually cotty... Steve Cottrell >> Cotty! Surely not. Next you'll be telling us that Bill Robb is actually Knarf.. we live in confusing times -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
Gmail solves this problem for me. It only shows the top 50 threads. If you go to page 2 you're dead to me. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:30 AM, David Mann wrote: > On Aug 29, 2012, at 4:27 AM, steve harley wrote: > >> think of it as a river of information > > I thought it was more like a waterboarding. > > Dave > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
On Aug 29, 2012, at 4:27 AM, steve harley wrote: > think of it as a river of information I thought it was more like a waterboarding. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
On 28/08/2012 10:27 AM, steve harley wrote: think of it as a river of information — you don't have to drink it all; The problem is, it is a sewage lagoon of information. It's not a matter of drinking any of it. It's all shite (especially my stuff). It's a question of what you can stomach. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
On 28/08/2012 1:54 AM, Subash wrote: Next you'll be telling us that Bill Robb is actually Knarf.. we live in confusing times Interesting times, actually. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
On 27/08/2012 10:19 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: I have a very enthusiastic photographer friend who wished to form another Pentax Mail In Forum called iPentax. I wrote back telling him that there is already a very interesting one called PDML. He agreed, but said that he was once a member of PDML but spent too much time reading PDML mail in his Inbox, and less time on his actual photography. Many a time the number of mails on the same topic was overwhelming, with little or no inputs to stimulate his grey cells and his photography. Perhaps we can ponder on this issue with ways to prune down the number of "non-issue" mails that help only to fatten up the Inbox. The British call it "cotton wooling". I may have stirred the hornets nest, but I took a sincere and calculated risk to highlight this issue to all of you. I beg pardon. It's called the delete button. Seriously. Other than a few brief periods, I have not been unsubscribed from the PDML since 1998. Either learn to use the delete button, or allow yourself to be sucked into the vortex. It's your choice. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
On 27/08/2012 10:40 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand how being active on pdml takes time away from photography any more than any other activity would. Seems to me that it's about priorities and choices and they have nothing to do with this list specifically. Are you implying that somehow we are personally responsible for our lives? -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
From: Bipin Gupta I have a very enthusiastic photographer friend who wished to form another Pentax Mail In Forum called iPentax. I wrote back telling him that there is already a very interesting one called PDML. He agreed, but said that he was once a member of PDML but spent too much time reading PDML mail in his Inbox, and less time on his actual photography. Many a time the number of mails on the same topic was overwhelming, with little or no inputs to stimulate his grey cells and his photography. Perhaps we can ponder on this issue with ways to prune down the number of "non-issue" mails that help only to fatten up the Inbox. The British call it "cotton wooling". I may have stirred the hornets nest, but I took a sincere and calculated risk to highlight this issue to all of you. I beg pardon. Bipin. camp: San Mateo, California and not from the far away enchanting land. Seems to me this is a PEBCAK issue, not a PDML problem. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
on 2012-08-27 22:19 Bipin Gupta wrote I have a very enthusiastic photographer friend who wished to form another Pentax Mail In Forum called iPentax. I wrote back telling him that there is already a very interesting one called PDML. He agreed, but said that he was once a member of PDML but spent too much time reading PDML mail in his Inbox, and less time on his actual photography. Many a time the number of mails on the same topic was overwhelming, with little or no inputs to stimulate his grey cells and his photography. think of it as a river of information — you don't have to drink it all; it is pretty easy from the subject lines and a little familiarity to know which threads are going to drift away (and whether you'll be interested); looking at the hierarchical structure also helps, but you need a true threaded email client, which is a bit of an endangered species the subject lines let me defer viewing many PESOs until i have more time, and viewing threads hierarchically gives me a sense of the depth of a conversation, which may tempt me or dissuade me from diving in; i usually at least look at a PESO, but may or may not read most of the thread; waiting lets threads "fill up", so it's easier to either take in the conversation with a bit of focus, or skip it -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
Of course, subject lines mean little when the thread flies off into uncharted territory. Not all that time consuming to figure that out, however. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Subash wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Brian Walters > wrote: >> >> Quoting Subash Jeyan : >>> what *is* bothering me is, i can't for the life of me figure out why >>> this guy called steve cottrell is trying to convince us that he is >>> actually cotty... > >> Steve Cottrell >> Cotty! >> >> Surely not. >> >> Next you'll be telling us that Bill Robb is actually Knarf.. > > we live in confusing times > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > > Quoting Subash Jeyan : >> what *is* bothering me is, i can't for the life of me figure out why >> this guy called steve cottrell is trying to convince us that he is >> actually cotty... > Steve Cottrell >> Cotty! > > Surely not. > > Next you'll be telling us that Bill Robb is actually Knarf.. we live in confusing times -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
Quoting Subash Jeyan : On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:19:12 -0700 Bipin Gupta wrote: I have a very enthusiastic photographer friend who wished to form another Pentax Mail In Forum called iPentax. I wrote back telling him that there is already a very interesting one called PDML. He agreed, but said that he was once a member of PDML but spent too much time reading PDML mail in his Inbox, and less time on his actual photography. since i have a feeling the OP might be referring to me (not that it matters in the larger scheme of things :)) about two and a half years back i started a googlegroup for pentax users in india (there are about 40 of us there now). mainly because pentax doesn't have an official presence in india, it is difficult to get pentax gear here unless one has relatives/friends abroad, so a forum like that, among other things, is very helpful to circulate available second-hand stuff around. we also, now and then, post photos and discuss other things. it's a low-volume mailing list and it serves its purpose. but i don't recall saying anything on the above line to the OP :) and i am still very much here in PDML and enjoying the conversations to boot. imagine PDML without OT or flame war epics :) what *is* bothering me is, i can't for the life of me figure out why this guy called steve cottrell is trying to convince us that he is actually cotty... Steve Cottrell >> Cotty! Surely not. Next you'll be telling us that Bill Robb is actually Knarf.. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
You in san mateo? Bipin Gupta wrote: >I have a very enthusiastic photographer friend who wished to form >another Pentax Mail In Forum called iPentax. I wrote back telling him >that there is already a very interesting one called PDML. >He agreed, but said that he was once a member of PDML but spent too >much time reading PDML mail in his Inbox, and less time on his actual >photography. Many a time the number of mails on the same topic was >overwhelming, with little or no inputs to stimulate his grey cells and >his photography. >Perhaps we can ponder on this issue with ways to prune down the number >of "non-issue" mails that help only to fatten up the Inbox. The >British call it "cotton wooling". >I may have stirred the hornets nest, but I took a sincere and >calculated risk to highlight this issue to all of you. >I beg pardon. >Bipin. >camp: San Mateo, California > and not from the far away enchanting land. > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
Time managerment is a personal thing: it's up to you to mange how much time you spend on PDML (or anything else, for that matter). Stop abrogating your responsibility for your own time and how you use it by trying to blame another party. Ciao, Pete Mac in Melbourne. Now, where did I spit that dummy? On 28 August 2012 14:19, Bipin Gupta wrote: > I have a very enthusiastic photographer friend who wished to form > another Pentax Mail In Forum called iPentax. I wrote back telling him > that there is already a very interesting one called PDML. > He agreed, but said that he was once a member of PDML but spent too > much time reading PDML mail in his Inbox, and less time on his actual > photography. Many a time the number of mails on the same topic was > overwhelming, with little or no inputs to stimulate his grey cells and > his photography. > Perhaps we can ponder on this issue with ways to prune down the number > of "non-issue" mails that help only to fatten up the Inbox. The > British call it "cotton wooling". > I may have stirred the hornets nest, but I took a sincere and > calculated risk to highlight this issue to all of you. > I beg pardon. > Bipin. > camp: San Mateo, California > and not from the far away enchanting land. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
Quoting Bipin Gupta : I have a very enthusiastic photographer friend who wished to form another Pentax Mail In Forum called iPentax. I wrote back telling him that there is already a very interesting one called PDML. He agreed, but said that he was once a member of PDML but spent too much time reading PDML mail in his Inbox, and less time on his actual photography. Many a time the number of mails on the same topic was overwhelming, with little or no inputs to stimulate his grey cells and his photography. Perhaps we can ponder on this issue with ways to prune down the number of "non-issue" mails that help only to fatten up the Inbox. The British call it "cotton wooling". I may have stirred the hornets nest, but I took a sincere and calculated risk to highlight this issue to all of you. I beg pardon. Well, most of the off topic stuff is labelled "OT" so if you don't want to see it, setting up an appropriate email filter would do the trick. Personally, I like the OT stuff. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:19:12 -0700 Bipin Gupta wrote: > I have a very enthusiastic photographer friend who wished to form > another Pentax Mail In Forum called iPentax. I wrote back telling him > that there is already a very interesting one called PDML. > He agreed, but said that he was once a member of PDML but spent too > much time reading PDML mail in his Inbox, and less time on his actual > photography. since i have a feeling the OP might be referring to me (not that it matters in the larger scheme of things :)) about two and a half years back i started a googlegroup for pentax users in india (there are about 40 of us there now). mainly because pentax doesn't have an official presence in india, it is difficult to get pentax gear here unless one has relatives/friends abroad, so a forum like that, among other things, is very helpful to circulate available second-hand stuff around. we also, now and then, post photos and discuss other things. it's a low-volume mailing list and it serves its purpose. but i don't recall saying anything on the above line to the OP :) and i am still very much here in PDML and enjoying the conversations to boot. imagine PDML without OT or flame war epics :) what *is* bothering me is, i can't for the life of me figure out why this guy called steve cottrell is trying to convince us that he is actually cotty... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail
That's why we have subject lines. So we can filter out the crap. That's why we never look at a gallery by Larry because we know it will feature about 357 photos and take 42 minutes to scroll through. And more seriously, the beauty of the email is that we can turn off our computer, actually leave the house with a camera, take pictures for a whole day or more and then when we come back everything on pdml will still be there; we won't have missed a thing. I don't understand how being active on pdml takes time away from photography any more than any other activity would. Seems to me that it's about priorities and choices and they have nothing to do with this list specifically. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bipin Gupta Sent: August 28, 2012 8/28/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Time Management - Actual Photography vs Reading PDML Mail I have a very enthusiastic photographer friend who wished to form another Pentax Mail In Forum called iPentax. I wrote back telling him that there is already a very interesting one called PDML. He agreed, but said that he was once a member of PDML but spent too much time reading PDML mail in his Inbox, and less time on his actual photography. Many a time the number of mails on the same topic was overwhelming, with little or no inputs to stimulate his grey cells and his photography. Perhaps we can ponder on this issue with ways to prune down the number of "non-issue" mails that help only to fatten up the Inbox. The British call it "cotton wooling". I may have stirred the hornets nest, but I took a sincere and calculated risk to highlight this issue to all of you. I beg pardon. Bipin. camp: San Mateo, California and not from the far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
