RE: WTB: mirror lens
Thanks Paul, that sounds funny and is easy to remember :-) greetings Markus >>-Original Message- >>From: Paul Sorenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:33 PM >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >>Subject: Re: WTB: mirror lens >> >> >>A good starting point for moon pix is the "moony 11" - similar to the >>sunny16 rule. Aperture f:11, shutter 1/ISO. > >>
RE: WTB: mirror lens
Exposure is difficult. Never trust the meter. It will try to give you a 18% grey (in average) picture.That's how meters work! A meter is not a miraculous garantie for well exposed photographs everytime. On the contrary, in fact. When you are photographing small, bright objects (not filling the frame) - like faces on a theater scene or the moon - you MUST "underexpose" (minus correction). Two stops is a very good starting point in my experience. Or perhaps spot metering, which will give you an 18% "grey" moon. Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Sorenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 9. marts 2006 14:33 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: WTB: mirror lens A good starting point for moon pix is the "moony 11" - similar to the sunny16 rule. Aperture f:11, shutter 1/ISO. -P Markus Maurer wrote: > Hi Derby > now I understand, you got too much black space around the moon and the > camera overexposed. > So a full frame moon should translate to nearly gray then... > thanks for your answer > greetings > Markus > > >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:05 PM >>> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >>> Subject: RE: WTB: mirror lens >>> >>> >>> Hi Markus, >>> >>> Oh, with a 500 and a 2x, the moon should be quite large in the >>> frame. So the >>> metering will be close. But if I just had the mirror without the extender, >>> normal metering will just create a white blob for the moon. Its >>> nice to have the >>> freedom to chimp, and adjust accordingly. >>> >>> D >>> >>> >>> >>> Quoting Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>>> Hi Derby >>>> do you overexpose moonlight shots by 2 stops or did I misunderstand you >>>> here? >>>> I would like to try some shots of full moon soon with the Tamron SP 500 >>>> mirror lens and maybe the SP 2x extender. >>>> greetings >>>> Markus >>>> >>>>>> But I still like M. It's useful if the metered exposure is out by >>>>>> more than two >>>>>> stops (happens often when taking moonlight shots, and you want to >>>>>> keep lunar >>>>>> detail). >>>>>> >>>>>> D >>>>>> >>> > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/277 - Release Date: 03/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/277 - Release Date: 03/08/2006
Re: WTB: mirror lens
On Mar 9, 2006, at 8:33 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: A good starting point for moon pix is the "moony 11" - similar to the sunny16 rule. Aperture f:11, shutter 1/ISO. -P Depends on how bright you want the moon to be. I always use f/16, because it is always a bright, sunny day on the light parts of the moon. That's what NASA used, BTW. Bob
Re: WTB: mirror lens
A good starting point for moon pix is the "moony 11" - similar to the sunny16 rule. Aperture f:11, shutter 1/ISO. -P Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Derby now I understand, you got too much black space around the moon and the camera overexposed. So a full frame moon should translate to nearly gray then... thanks for your answer greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:05 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: WTB: mirror lens Hi Markus, Oh, with a 500 and a 2x, the moon should be quite large in the frame. So the metering will be close. But if I just had the mirror without the extender, normal metering will just create a white blob for the moon. Its nice to have the freedom to chimp, and adjust accordingly. D Quoting Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi Derby do you overexpose moonlight shots by 2 stops or did I misunderstand you here? I would like to try some shots of full moon soon with the Tamron SP 500 mirror lens and maybe the SP 2x extender. greetings Markus But I still like M. It's useful if the metered exposure is out by more than two stops (happens often when taking moonlight shots, and you want to keep lunar detail). D
RE: WTB: mirror lens
Hi Derby now I understand, you got too much black space around the moon and the camera overexposed. So a full frame moon should translate to nearly gray then... thanks for your answer greetings Markus >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:05 PM >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >>Subject: RE: WTB: mirror lens >> >> >>Hi Markus, >> >>Oh, with a 500 and a 2x, the moon should be quite large in the >>frame. So the >>metering will be close. But if I just had the mirror without the extender, >>normal metering will just create a white blob for the moon. Its >>nice to have the >>freedom to chimp, and adjust accordingly. >> >>D >> >> >> >>Quoting Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> Hi Derby >>> do you overexpose moonlight shots by 2 stops or did I misunderstand you >>> here? >>> I would like to try some shots of full moon soon with the Tamron SP 500 >>> mirror lens and maybe the SP 2x extender. >>> greetings >>> Markus >>> >>> >> >>> >>But I still like M. It's useful if the metered exposure is out by >>> >>more than two >>> >>stops (happens often when taking moonlight shots, and you want to >>> >>keep lunar >>> >>detail). >>> >> >>> >>D >>> >> >>> >> >>
RE: WTB: mirror lens
Hi Markus, Oh, with a 500 and a 2x, the moon should be quite large in the frame. So the metering will be close. But if I just had the mirror without the extender, normal metering will just create a white blob for the moon. Its nice to have the freedom to chimp, and adjust accordingly. D Quoting Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Derby > do you overexpose moonlight shots by 2 stops or did I misunderstand you > here? > I would like to try some shots of full moon soon with the Tamron SP 500 > mirror lens and maybe the SP 2x extender. > greetings > Markus > > >> > >>But I still like M. It's useful if the metered exposure is out by > >>more than two > >>stops (happens often when taking moonlight shots, and you want to > >>keep lunar > >>detail). > >> > >>D > >> >
RE: WTB: mirror lens
Hi Derby do you overexpose moonlight shots by 2 stops or did I misunderstand you here? I would like to try some shots of full moon soon with the Tamron SP 500 mirror lens and maybe the SP 2x extender. greetings Markus >> >>But I still like M. It's useful if the metered exposure is out by >>more than two >>stops (happens often when taking moonlight shots, and you want to >>keep lunar >>detail). >> >>D >>
Re: WTB: mirror lens
Quoting Perry Pellechia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 3/7/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perry Pellechia wrote: > > > > >On 3/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Quoting Perry Pellechia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>On 3/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > I have two mirror lenses and they both work fine on the DS > > > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index4/05_09_moon/01.htm > > > > They just work like M lenses (with one f-stop), so you use the AE-L > (or > > > > > > >>>green > > >>> > > >>> > > button on the D) method. > > > > D > > > > > > >>>Derby, > > >>>They are actually easier to use in AV mode. Since they have only one > > >>>aperture setting, setting the camera to AV mode will force open > > >>>aperture metering. The camera will adjust the shutter for each > > >>>exposure by pressing the shutter button. There is no need for the > > >>>extra "manual" step of measure the exposure (green button or AE-L). > > >>> > > >>>Perry. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>Ah, very true > > >> > > >>But I still like M. It's useful if the metered exposure is out by more > than two > > >>stops (happens often when taking moonlight shots, and you want to keep > lunar > > >>detail). > > >> > > >>D > > >> > > >> > > > > > >Sure there is a use for M mode but the camera is not going to meter > > >any differently using green-button/M mode and AV mode. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually it will, Av meters continuously and M sets and holds. > > > > -Adam > > > > > Yes, I know that, but if you are going to set the shutter using the > green button/M mode then I do not see how you would get a different > exposre value than just using AV mode. > The metering will be the same. But I take a shot, chimp, and if the exposure is out, I adjust the shutter speed. If the metered exposure is out by more than 2 stops, you can't adjust for this using exposure compensation if in Av. Sorry, I should have chosen my words better. D
RE: WTB: mirror lens
Hey, I love the FA85 soft on the DS D Quoting Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > He was talking generally about compatibility of the old lens line up on > digital. He said Pentax had reported no real problems, except with _the_ > soft focus, and with mirror lenses. > Strange... Fovi (Pentax Norway) are considered as knowing their things. I'm > not suggesting "the list" is wrong. I'm just wondering. Perhaps I'll give > them a new call asking. > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > -Original Message- > > From: Perry Pellechia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 8. mars 2006 02:05 > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Subject: Re: WTB: mirror lens > > > > They are mis-stating the situation. Like other non "A" lenses mirror > > lens will not allow program mode. However, since they are fixed > > aperture they are actually easier to use than other "A" lenses. Set > > the camera to AV mode and fire away. > > > > Perry. > > > > On 3/7/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I spoke with Pentax Norway today. They said that mirror lenses don't > > work at > > > the D(S/L...). I did not ask why. Does someone have an explanation for > > this? > > > Or did I simply get him wrong? He said something about mirror lenses > > being > > > fixed aperture. > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > > > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > > > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: 1. mars 2006 01:35 > > > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > > Subject: Re: WTB: mirror lens > > > > > > > > http://rugift.com/photocameras/lenses.htm > > > > > > > > On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'm looking to fool around with a mirror lens and see if I can make > > it > > > > > do the things I want it to do. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not picky about focal length, speed or condition, provided it is > > > > > inexpensive. I'd need something in either K mount or m42. > > > > > > > > > > I'm also willing to pay more for a faster one. What I'm trying to > > > > > determine for myself is whether or not I want to pay $200 for a > > 500mm > > > > > f5.6 mirror. > > > > > > > > > > Let me know what'cha got or if you have any heads-ups for me. I've > > > > > seen a lot of 500mm f8s on eBay in the $100 range, which is too much > > > > > for a lens that I probably wouldn't use after testing. > > > > > > > > > > -Aaron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > <> > > Perry Pellechia > > > > Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry > > <> > > > > > >
RE: WTB: mirror lens
He was talking generally about compatibility of the old lens line up on digital. He said Pentax had reported no real problems, except with _the_ soft focus, and with mirror lenses. Strange... Fovi (Pentax Norway) are considered as knowing their things. I'm not suggesting "the list" is wrong. I'm just wondering. Perhaps I'll give them a new call asking. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Perry Pellechia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 8. mars 2006 02:05 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: WTB: mirror lens > > They are mis-stating the situation. Like other non "A" lenses mirror > lens will not allow program mode. However, since they are fixed > aperture they are actually easier to use than other "A" lenses. Set > the camera to AV mode and fire away. > > Perry. > > On 3/7/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I spoke with Pentax Norway today. They said that mirror lenses don't > work at > > the D(S/L...). I did not ask why. Does someone have an explanation for > this? > > Or did I simply get him wrong? He said something about mirror lenses > being > > fixed aperture. > > > > > > Tim > > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 1. mars 2006 01:35 > > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > Subject: Re: WTB: mirror lens > > > > > > http://rugift.com/photocameras/lenses.htm > > > > > > On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm looking to fool around with a mirror lens and see if I can make > it > > > > do the things I want it to do. > > > > > > > > I'm not picky about focal length, speed or condition, provided it is > > > > inexpensive. I'd need something in either K mount or m42. > > > > > > > > I'm also willing to pay more for a faster one. What I'm trying to > > > > determine for myself is whether or not I want to pay $200 for a > 500mm > > > > f5.6 mirror. > > > > > > > > Let me know what'cha got or if you have any heads-ups for me. I've > > > > seen a lot of 500mm f8s on eBay in the $100 range, which is too much > > > > for a lens that I probably wouldn't use after testing. > > > > > > > > -Aaron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > <> > Perry Pellechia > > Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry > <> >
Re: WTB: mirror lens
They are fixed aperture. They'll work the same way K and M lenses work. Hit the green button or equivalent to set the shutter speed. Paul On Mar 7, 2006, at 7:56 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I spoke with Pentax Norway today. They said that mirror lenses don't work at the D(S/L...). I did not ask why. Does someone have an explanation for this? Or did I simply get him wrong? He said something about mirror lenses being fixed aperture. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1. mars 2006 01:35 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: WTB: mirror lens http://rugift.com/photocameras/lenses.htm On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm looking to fool around with a mirror lens and see if I can make it do the things I want it to do. I'm not picky about focal length, speed or condition, provided it is inexpensive. I'd need something in either K mount or m42. I'm also willing to pay more for a faster one. What I'm trying to determine for myself is whether or not I want to pay $200 for a 500mm f5.6 mirror. Let me know what'cha got or if you have any heads-ups for me. I've seen a lot of 500mm f8s on eBay in the $100 range, which is too much for a lens that I probably wouldn't use after testing. -Aaron
Re: WTB: mirror lens
On 3/7/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perry Pellechia wrote: > > >On 3/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Quoting Perry Pellechia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >> > >> > >>>On 3/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > I have two mirror lenses and they both work fine on the DS > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index4/05_09_moon/01.htm > > They just work like M lenses (with one f-stop), so you use the AE-L (or > > > >>>green > >>> > >>> > button on the D) method. > > D > > > >>>Derby, > >>>They are actually easier to use in AV mode. Since they have only one > >>>aperture setting, setting the camera to AV mode will force open > >>>aperture metering. The camera will adjust the shutter for each > >>>exposure by pressing the shutter button. There is no need for the > >>>extra "manual" step of measure the exposure (green button or AE-L). > >>> > >>>Perry. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Ah, very true > >> > >>But I still like M. It's useful if the metered exposure is out by more than > >>two > >>stops (happens often when taking moonlight shots, and you want to keep lunar > >>detail). > >> > >>D > >> > >> > > > >Sure there is a use for M mode but the camera is not going to meter > >any differently using green-button/M mode and AV mode. > > > > > > > Actually it will, Av meters continuously and M sets and holds. > > -Adam > > Yes, I know that, but if you are going to set the shutter using the green button/M mode then I do not see how you would get a different exposre value than just using AV mode.
Re: WTB: mirror lens
Perry Pellechia wrote: On 3/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quoting Perry Pellechia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 3/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have two mirror lenses and they both work fine on the DS http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index4/05_09_moon/01.htm They just work like M lenses (with one f-stop), so you use the AE-L (or green button on the D) method. D Derby, They are actually easier to use in AV mode. Since they have only one aperture setting, setting the camera to AV mode will force open aperture metering. The camera will adjust the shutter for each exposure by pressing the shutter button. There is no need for the extra "manual" step of measure the exposure (green button or AE-L). Perry. Ah, very true But I still like M. It's useful if the metered exposure is out by more than two stops (happens often when taking moonlight shots, and you want to keep lunar detail). D Sure there is a use for M mode but the camera is not going to meter any differently using green-button/M mode and AV mode. Actually it will, Av meters continuously and M sets and holds. -Adam
Re: WTB: mirror lens
On 3/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Perry Pellechia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On 3/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I have two mirror lenses and they both work fine on the DS > > > > > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index4/05_09_moon/01.htm > > > > > > They just work like M lenses (with one f-stop), so you use the AE-L (or > > green > > > button on the D) method. > > > > > > D > > Derby, > > They are actually easier to use in AV mode. Since they have only one > > aperture setting, setting the camera to AV mode will force open > > aperture metering. The camera will adjust the shutter for each > > exposure by pressing the shutter button. There is no need for the > > extra "manual" step of measure the exposure (green button or AE-L). > > > > Perry. > > > > Ah, very true > > But I still like M. It's useful if the metered exposure is out by more than > two > stops (happens often when taking moonlight shots, and you want to keep lunar > detail). > > D Sure there is a use for M mode but the camera is not going to meter any differently using green-button/M mode and AV mode.
Re: WTB: mirror lens
Quoting Perry Pellechia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 3/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have two mirror lenses and they both work fine on the DS > > > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index4/05_09_moon/01.htm > > > > They just work like M lenses (with one f-stop), so you use the AE-L (or > green > > button on the D) method. > > > > D > Derby, > They are actually easier to use in AV mode. Since they have only one > aperture setting, setting the camera to AV mode will force open > aperture metering. The camera will adjust the shutter for each > exposure by pressing the shutter button. There is no need for the > extra "manual" step of measure the exposure (green button or AE-L). > > Perry. > Ah, very true But I still like M. It's useful if the metered exposure is out by more than two stops (happens often when taking moonlight shots, and you want to keep lunar detail). D
Re: WTB: mirror lens
On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:05:43 -, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have two mirror lenses and they both work fine on the DS http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index4/05_09_moon/01.htm They just work like M lenses (with one f-stop), so you use the AE-L (or green button on the D) method. Not necessary. Use Av mode. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: WTB: mirror lens
On 3/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have two mirror lenses and they both work fine on the DS > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index4/05_09_moon/01.htm > > They just work like M lenses (with one f-stop), so you use the AE-L (or green > button on the D) method. > > D Derby, They are actually easier to use in AV mode. Since they have only one aperture setting, setting the camera to AV mode will force open aperture metering. The camera will adjust the shutter for each exposure by pressing the shutter button. There is no need for the extra "manual" step of measure the exposure (green button or AE-L). Perry. > > > > > Quoting Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I spoke with Pentax Norway today. They said that mirror lenses don't work at > > the D(S/L...). I did not ask why. Does someone have an explanation for this? > > Or did I simply get him wrong? He said something about mirror lenses being > > fixed aperture. > > > > > > Tim > > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > > > -----Original Message- > > > From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 1. mars 2006 01:35 > > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > Subject: Re: WTB: mirror lens > > > > > > http://rugift.com/photocameras/lenses.htm > > > > > > On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm looking to fool around with a mirror lens and see if I can make it > > > > do the things I want it to do. > > > > > > > > I'm not picky about focal length, speed or condition, provided it is > > > > inexpensive. I'd need something in either K mount or m42. > > > > > > > > I'm also willing to pay more for a faster one. What I'm trying to > > > > determine for myself is whether or not I want to pay $200 for a 500mm > > > > f5.6 mirror. > > > > > > > > Let me know what'cha got or if you have any heads-ups for me. I've > > > > seen a lot of 500mm f8s on eBay in the $100 range, which is too much > > > > for a lens that I probably wouldn't use after testing. > > > > > > > > -Aaron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- <> Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry <>
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Oops, this should read other non-A lenses. > aperture they are actually easier to use than other "A" lenses. Set > > Perry. > > On 3/7/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I spoke with Pentax Norway today. They said that mirror lenses don't work at > > the D(S/L...). I did not ask why. Does someone have an explanation for this? > > Or did I simply get him wrong? He said something about mirror lenses being > > fixed aperture. > > > > > > Tim > > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 1. mars 2006 01:35 > > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > Subject: Re: WTB: mirror lens > > > > > > http://rugift.com/photocameras/lenses.htm > > > > > > On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm looking to fool around with a mirror lens and see if I can make it > > > > do the things I want it to do. > > > > > > > > I'm not picky about focal length, speed or condition, provided it is > > > > inexpensive. I'd need something in either K mount or m42. > > > > > > > > I'm also willing to pay more for a faster one. What I'm trying to > > > > determine for myself is whether or not I want to pay $200 for a 500mm > > > > f5.6 mirror. > > > > > > > > Let me know what'cha got or if you have any heads-ups for me. I've > > > > seen a lot of 500mm f8s on eBay in the $100 range, which is too much > > > > for a lens that I probably wouldn't use after testing. > > > > > > > > -Aaron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > <> > Perry Pellechia > > Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry > <> > -- <> Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry <>
RE: WTB: mirror lens
I have two mirror lenses and they both work fine on the DS http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index4/05_09_moon/01.htm They just work like M lenses (with one f-stop), so you use the AE-L (or green button on the D) method. D Quoting Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I spoke with Pentax Norway today. They said that mirror lenses don't work at > the D(S/L...). I did not ask why. Does someone have an explanation for this? > Or did I simply get him wrong? He said something about mirror lenses being > fixed aperture. > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 1. mars 2006 01:35 > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Subject: Re: WTB: mirror lens > > > > http://rugift.com/photocameras/lenses.htm > > > > On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm looking to fool around with a mirror lens and see if I can make it > > > do the things I want it to do. > > > > > > I'm not picky about focal length, speed or condition, provided it is > > > inexpensive. I'd need something in either K mount or m42. > > > > > > I'm also willing to pay more for a faster one. What I'm trying to > > > determine for myself is whether or not I want to pay $200 for a 500mm > > > f5.6 mirror. > > > > > > Let me know what'cha got or if you have any heads-ups for me. I've > > > seen a lot of 500mm f8s on eBay in the $100 range, which is too much > > > for a lens that I probably wouldn't use after testing. > > > > > > -Aaron > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: WTB: mirror lens
They are mis-stating the situation. Like other non "A" lenses mirror lens will not allow program mode. However, since they are fixed aperture they are actually easier to use than other "A" lenses. Set the camera to AV mode and fire away. Perry. On 3/7/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I spoke with Pentax Norway today. They said that mirror lenses don't work at > the D(S/L...). I did not ask why. Does someone have an explanation for this? > Or did I simply get him wrong? He said something about mirror lenses being > fixed aperture. > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 1. mars 2006 01:35 > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Subject: Re: WTB: mirror lens > > > > http://rugift.com/photocameras/lenses.htm > > > > On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm looking to fool around with a mirror lens and see if I can make it > > > do the things I want it to do. > > > > > > I'm not picky about focal length, speed or condition, provided it is > > > inexpensive. I'd need something in either K mount or m42. > > > > > > I'm also willing to pay more for a faster one. What I'm trying to > > > determine for myself is whether or not I want to pay $200 for a 500mm > > > f5.6 mirror. > > > > > > Let me know what'cha got or if you have any heads-ups for me. I've > > > seen a lot of 500mm f8s on eBay in the $100 range, which is too much > > > for a lens that I probably wouldn't use after testing. > > > > > > -Aaron > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- <> Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry <>
RE: WTB: mirror lens
I spoke with Pentax Norway today. They said that mirror lenses don't work at the D(S/L...). I did not ask why. Does someone have an explanation for this? Or did I simply get him wrong? He said something about mirror lenses being fixed aperture. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 1. mars 2006 01:35 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: WTB: mirror lens > > http://rugift.com/photocameras/lenses.htm > > On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm looking to fool around with a mirror lens and see if I can make it > > do the things I want it to do. > > > > I'm not picky about focal length, speed or condition, provided it is > > inexpensive. I'd need something in either K mount or m42. > > > > I'm also willing to pay more for a faster one. What I'm trying to > > determine for myself is whether or not I want to pay $200 for a 500mm > > f5.6 mirror. > > > > Let me know what'cha got or if you have any heads-ups for me. I've > > seen a lot of 500mm f8s on eBay in the $100 range, which is too much > > for a lens that I probably wouldn't use after testing. > > > > -Aaron > > > > >
Re: WTB: mirror lens
Thanks, I'll look for John's page. A PDMLer has offered me what seems to be a well-regarded lens for a very reasonable price, so for the time being my quest is over. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: WTB: mirror lens Date: Wed Mar 1, 2006 12:12 pm Size: 1K To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net John Mustarde used to show up regularly on the list, and had a page about long telephotos, including a few 500mm mirror lenses. As I recall, he raved about a specific Soligar or Spiratone, can't remember which, as being good. Google it; the page was up a year ago as I recall. One thing he mentioned is, that due to inherent low contrast, a manufacturer's hood is not a luxury with these beasts. I think you're gonna find them tricky. I've got two 500mm mirrors, both F8. One is so old and big that it comes with a tripod foot and has yelllow single coating (pre 1970, I think). The other is much more compact. The #1 problem with these beasts is not donuts; it is focus. I only nail about 1 of every 4-5 shots, but my eyes are old. Have fun. My mirrors are strictly for fun; not suitable for 8x10 but not too bad for 5x7 prints. -Lon Aaron Reynolds wrote: > Oh yes, I know... and this is why I was asking about used lenses, which are > traditionally cheaper. > > Buying a good used one for $100 is better than buying a lousy new one for > $100. > > -Aaron > > -Original Message- > > From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The problem is; the less you spend, the less you will think. > >
Re: WTB: mirror lens
John Mustarde used to show up regularly on the list, and had a page about long telephotos, including a few 500mm mirror lenses. As I recall, he raved about a specific Soligar or Spiratone, can't remember which, as being good. Google it; the page was up a year ago as I recall. One thing he mentioned is, that due to inherent low contrast, a manufacturer's hood is not a luxury with these beasts. I think you're gonna find them tricky. I've got two 500mm mirrors, both F8. One is so old and big that it comes with a tripod foot and has yelllow single coating (pre 1970, I think). The other is much more compact. The #1 problem with these beasts is not donuts; it is focus. I only nail about 1 of every 4-5 shots, but my eyes are old. Have fun. My mirrors are strictly for fun; not suitable for 8x10 but not too bad for 5x7 prints. -Lon Aaron Reynolds wrote: Oh yes, I know... and this is why I was asking about used lenses, which are traditionally cheaper. Buying a good used one for $100 is better than buying a lousy new one for $100. -Aaron -Original Message- From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The problem is; the less you spend, the less you will think.
Re: Re: WTB: mirror lens
Oh yes, I know... and this is why I was asking about used lenses, which are traditionally cheaper. Buying a good used one for $100 is better than buying a lousy new one for $100. -Aaron -Original Message- From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The problem is; the less you spend, the less you will think.
Re: Re: WTB: mirror lens
> > From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/03/01 Wed AM 02:38:00 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: WTB: mirror lens > > Yes, that's where I'd be spending $200 on a 500 5.6 -- I want to spend less > to see what I think of mirrors. > > -Aaron The problem is; the less you spend, the less you will think. > > -Original Message- > > From: Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subj: Re: WTB: mirror lens > Date: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:35 pm > Size: 715 bytes > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > http://rugift.com/photocameras/lenses.htm > > On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm looking to fool around with a mirror lens and see if I can make it > > do the things I want it to do. > > > > I'm not picky about focal length, speed or condition, provided it is > > inexpensive. I'd need something in either K mount or m42. > > > > I'm also willing to pay more for a faster one. What I'm trying to > > determine for myself is whether or not I want to pay $200 for a 500mm > > f5.6 mirror. > > > > Let me know what'cha got or if you have any heads-ups for me. I've > > seen a lot of 500mm f8s on eBay in the $100 range, which is too much > > for a lens that I probably wouldn't use after testing. > > > > -Aaron > > > > > > > - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
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Hehe, I can't really spend $150 to see if I want to spend $200. I thought about that lens before, but I'd rather slap a 1.4x converter on my A* 200mm f2.8 and get a 280mm f4 that will undoubtedly be sharper. I have a couple of offers now that should pan out to something, thanks everybody. Though if anyone has something faster, like a 5.6 or 4.5 they want to get rid of, let me know. -Aaron On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:53 PM, Mishka wrote: http://rugift.com/photocameras/rubinar_300_lens.htm ? On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, that's where I'd be spending $200 on a 500 5.6 -- I want to spend less to see what I think of mirrors. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: WTB: mirror lens Date: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:35 pm Size: 715 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net http://rugift.com/photocameras/lenses.htm On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm looking to fool around with a mirror lens and see if I can make it do the things I want it to do. I'm not picky about focal length, speed or condition, provided it is inexpensive. I'd need something in either K mount or m42. I'm also willing to pay more for a faster one. What I'm trying to determine for myself is whether or not I want to pay $200 for a 500mm f5.6 mirror. Let me know what'cha got or if you have any heads-ups for me. I've seen a lot of 500mm f8s on eBay in the $100 range, which is too much for a lens that I probably wouldn't use after testing. -Aaron
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http://rugift.com/photocameras/rubinar_300_lens.htm ? On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, that's where I'd be spending $200 on a 500 5.6 -- I want to spend less > to see what I think of mirrors. > > -Aaron > > -Original Message- > > From: Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subj: Re: WTB: mirror lens > Date: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:35 pm > Size: 715 bytes > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > http://rugift.com/photocameras/lenses.htm > > On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm looking to fool around with a mirror lens and see if I can make it > > do the things I want it to do. > > > > I'm not picky about focal length, speed or condition, provided it is > > inexpensive. I'd need something in either K mount or m42. > > > > I'm also willing to pay more for a faster one. What I'm trying to > > determine for myself is whether or not I want to pay $200 for a 500mm > > f5.6 mirror. > > > > Let me know what'cha got or if you have any heads-ups for me. I've > > seen a lot of 500mm f8s on eBay in the $100 range, which is too much > > for a lens that I probably wouldn't use after testing. > > > > -Aaron > > > > > > >
Re: WTB: mirror lens
Yes, that's where I'd be spending $200 on a 500 5.6 -- I want to spend less to see what I think of mirrors. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: WTB: mirror lens Date: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:35 pm Size: 715 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net http://rugift.com/photocameras/lenses.htm On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking to fool around with a mirror lens and see if I can make it > do the things I want it to do. > > I'm not picky about focal length, speed or condition, provided it is > inexpensive. I'd need something in either K mount or m42. > > I'm also willing to pay more for a faster one. What I'm trying to > determine for myself is whether or not I want to pay $200 for a 500mm > f5.6 mirror. > > Let me know what'cha got or if you have any heads-ups for me. I've > seen a lot of 500mm f8s on eBay in the $100 range, which is too much > for a lens that I probably wouldn't use after testing. > > -Aaron > >
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http://rugift.com/photocameras/lenses.htm On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking to fool around with a mirror lens and see if I can make it > do the things I want it to do. > > I'm not picky about focal length, speed or condition, provided it is > inexpensive. I'd need something in either K mount or m42. > > I'm also willing to pay more for a faster one. What I'm trying to > determine for myself is whether or not I want to pay $200 for a 500mm > f5.6 mirror. > > Let me know what'cha got or if you have any heads-ups for me. I've > seen a lot of 500mm f8s on eBay in the $100 range, which is too much > for a lens that I probably wouldn't use after testing. > > -Aaron > >
