Re: cities vs. no cities
Chris, I would rather leave my name/city out of a list posted to the web. I'd rather avoid the spammers. I don't mind being included in a mailing list. Sorry, about the extra work, but you know how it is when you volunteer. g Chris Brogden wrote: However, I'm wondering how everyone would feel about having their cities posted on a web page. Personally, I don't care either way, myself, but I just assumed there would be resistance. Any thoughts or suggestions, anyone? Again, public replies are fine for this. Thanks! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: cities vs. no cities
I usually sign my posts as: Jerry in Houston -Original Message- From: W Keith Mosier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 6:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cities vs. no cities Chris, I would rather leave my name/city out of a list posted to the web. I'd rather avoid the spammers. I don't mind being included in a mailing list. Sorry, about the extra work, but you know how it is when you volunteer. g Chris Brogden wrote: However, I'm wondering how everyone would feel about having their cities posted on a web page. Personally, I don't care either way, myself, but I just assumed there would be resistance. Any thoughts or suggestions, anyone? Again, public replies are fine for this. Thanks! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: E-mails or no e-mails; Was: Re: cities vs. no cities
- Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 3:43 AM Subject: E-mails or no e-mails; Was: Re: cities vs. no cities Hello Chris My vote: In order to make it easy to communicate with someone in a particular location, you have to include the e-mail addresses. In my opinion there is no difference if you will post it here for all or if you put it as a direct mail to me and the others all. Please excuse me, I have some arguments pro, but my English is too bad ... Kristian-Heinrich from Black Forest / Germany - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: cities vs. no cities
Chris, If you plan to post it on the web please leave mine out. I get enough juck mail as it is. I would imagine a list containing e-mail addresses would be a spammers wet dream come true. You might talk to Doug Brewer about Majordomo, it is very good at sending things out to a mailing list. Though most mail programs have some capability of sending mail to a list of recipients. Even in Netscape you can just go through the list and Bcc everyone. Just put all the respondents in a separate list from your personal one. Once a month or so, depending on new additions and requested deletions you can send out an updated list. --Tom Chris Brogden wrote: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, William Robb wrote: Chris, you will find it far easier to post an html document to the internet and send the URL out to interested parties. That way, all you have to do is send out an autoreply with the URL when a submission comes in, and update the webpage as needed. Trust me on this. I know it would be easier. It's going to be quite the task to e-mail out a copy to everyone, and I would rather put it on a web page. However, I'm wondering how everyone would feel about having their cities posted on a web page. Personally, I don't care either way, myself, but I just assumed there would be resistance. Any thoughts or suggestions, anyone? Again, public replies are fine for this. Thanks! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: cities vs. no cities
I thought it was a private listing, with name and location. If it's a website with email listings, leave me out. Too much drivel could come from this. Every peddler in the world selling anything vaguely related to photography would have easy hunting. A captive audience. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/14 6:21 AM Chris, If you plan to post it on the web please leave mine out. I get enough juck mail as it is. I would imagine a list containing e-mail addresses would be a spammers wet dream come true. You might talk to Doug Brewer about Majordomo, it is very good at sending things out to a mailing list. Though most mail programs have some capability of sending mail to a list of recipients. Even in Netscape you can just go through the list and Bcc everyone. Just put all the respondents in a separate list from your personal one. Once a month or so, depending on new additions and requested deletions you can send out an updated list. --Tom Chris Brogden wrote: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, William Robb wrote: Chris, you will find it far easier to post an html document to the internet and send the URL out to interested parties. That way, all you have to do is send out an autoreply with the URL when a submission comes in, and update the webpage as needed. Trust me on this. I know it would be easier. It's going to be quite the task to e-mail out a copy to everyone, and I would rather put it on a web page. However, I'm wondering how everyone would feel about having their cities posted on a web page. Personally, I don't care either way, myself, but I just assumed there would be resistance. Any thoughts or suggestions, anyone? Again, public replies are fine for this. Thanks! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: cities vs. no cities
Thank you Doug for doing that! --Tom Doug Brewer wrote: Rob, You'll note that the headers have had individual addresses removed from them in the archives. To get the email addresses off the archive site, you'd have to read each individual message, then click on the private response button to find out the address. While not completely unspammable (not much is) it's certainly not very efficient. Doug Quoting Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave, too late - Website with email listings: http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss%40pdml.net/ Cheers, Rob Studdert Ashwood Lake Photography http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: cities vs. no cities
Tom Rittenhouse wrote: I get enough juck mail as it is. I would imagine a list containing e-mail addresses would be a spammers wet dream come true. In that case you shouldn't have posted to the PDML - the postings are archived. And, guess what - your email address is shown in the 'from' field. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: cities vs. no cities
Tom, You or I may be a special case because I can say that I have never gotten spammed and as you can see I am on this list. So, I cannot think it is due to being in the archives; unless since I post less frequently... Csar -Original Message- From: Tom Rittenhouse [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cities vs. no cities Ah, but, some of the people that would be on the location list are lurkers and so wouldn't get spam from the archives. And many spammers are rather dumb and don't realize a mailing list archive has lots of specialized e-mail addresses in it. As it is I get about 10 spams a week I figure they got my e-mail address from the archive. To prove that they are dumb, not one has been related to photography. --Tom Rob Studdert wrote: On 14 Feb 2001, at 7:51, Dave Evans wrote: I thought it was a private listing, with name and location. If it's a website with email listings, leave me out. Too much drivel could come from this. Every peddler in the world selling anything vaguely related to photography would have easy hunting. A captive audience. Dave, too late - Website with email listings: http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss%40pdml.net/ Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: cities vs. no cities
Since I started the HTML thing as a trial balloon, I will now attempt to add a wee bit of common sense (something remarkably lacking in this thread). All Chris has to do is post a name and a location to a web page. Yer email address has no reason to be there, and if I were doing this project, I wouldn't be bothered with putting email addresses into the web based list anyway. It is WAY more efficient to build this thing as an HTML document, and update it periodically, than it is to run an email list with constant update traffic. As long as the web address isn't published, but kept confidential in private replies, which only need to be sent once as a reply, then there would be nothing on it to attract a spam bot. Add a web bot excluder text file to the base directory, and the web document should be very well hidden. And if you are still to paranoid too participate, then bugger off and don't participate. So there. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
E-mails or no e-mails; Was: Re: cities vs. no cities
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, William Robb wrote: Since I started the HTML thing as a trial balloon, I will now attempt to add a wee bit of common sense (something remarkably lacking in this thread). All Chris has to do is post a name and a location to a web page. Yer email address has no reason to be there, and if I were doing this project, I wouldn't be bothered with putting email addresses into the web based list anyway. It is WAY more efficient to build this thing as an HTML document, and update it periodically, than it is to run an email list with constant update traffic. As long as the web address isn't published, but kept confidential in private replies, which only need to be sent once as a reply, then there would be nothing on it to attract a spam bot. Add a web bot excluder text file to the base directory, and the web document should be very well hidden. And if you are still to paranoid too participate, then bugger off and don't participate. So there. William Robb I considered posting the info without e-mail addresses, but thought that part of the point was to make it easy to communicate with someone in a particular location. If I don't include the e-mail addresses, then people will have to post requests for communication to the list, which is bound to piss people off as well if it starts happening too much. Do people care about this? What are your feeling regarding e-mail addresses or no e-mail addresses? The way I see it, if the majority of people don't see a need to include e-mail addys, then we can put it on a web page easily enough. If they do, then it should stay as direct mail. Any thoughts, people? chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: E-mails or no e-mails; Was: Re: cities vs. no cities
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Chris Brogden wrote: As long as the web address isn't published, but kept confidential in private replies, Something else I just thought of, Bill. For me, it's no more work to mail out the complete list to everyone than it is to mail out the URL. Same amount of time either way, so I wouldn't be saving any work by putting it on the web. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: E-mails or no e-mails; Was: Re: cities vs. no cities
on 2/14/01 8:43 PM, Chris Brogden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I considered posting the info without e-mail addresses, but thought that part of the point was to make it easy to communicate with someone in a particular location. If I don't include the e-mail addresses, then people will have to post requests for communication to the list, which is bound to piss people off as well if it starts happening too much. Chris, As long as the address list is being emailed to other members who sent in the info I don't see a problem. If some has a problem the can let you know and you can delete them from the email list (both on it and receiving the list). JeffW. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: E-mails or no e-mails; Was: Re: cities vs. no cities
I really do not care one way or the other regarding email addresses. Somehow, mine seems to get picked up and I do get a small amount of spam, but nothing that a flick of the delete key can't handle. John - Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:43 PM Subject: E-mails or no e-mails; Was: Re: cities vs. no cities Do people care about this? What are your feeling regarding e-mail addresses or no e-mail addresses? The way I see it, if the majority of people don't see a need to include e-mail addys, then we can put it on a web page easily enough. If they do, then it should stay as direct mail. Any thoughts, people? chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: cities vs. no cities
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, William Robb wrote: Hi Chris. Here is how I would do it. Make a web page of the respondents information and put it on my private site, unlinked to my index page. I would then put the URL into a sig file and reply to respondents , add the sig file and send it off. Then, you update the web page as needed when additional respondents add their information. That sounds good to me, provided that everyone else is comfortable with it. Any thoughts, people? chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: cities vs. no cities
I know it would be easier. It's going to be quite the task to e-mail out a copy to everyone, and I would rather put it on a web page. However, I'm wondering how everyone would feel about having their cities posted on a web page. Personally, I don't care either way, myself, but I just assumed there would be resistance. Any thoughts or suggestions, anyone? Again, public replies are fine for this. Thanks! chris Hi Chris, Just mail that sucker or put it up on a page already! :-) Everyone sending you their info wanted to go "public". All the others didn't reply. Dan Scott (I'm even in the phone book!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
