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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Illegitimus non carborundum Sarcina stercoris Phalacrocorax aristotelis pulcherrimae plumae! Aguila non copit murem sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium est I wish now that I'd paid more attention to my Latin master at high school (although I suspect even he would have trouble with some of what's being served up here) I suspect my little effort is grammatically dubious - it's over 35 years since I did Latin at school. Still, I am feeling rather tempted to apply for the vacancy in the Vatican. I think I'd be good at writing bulls. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Don't you mean bull? (Only joking!) Thanks, Bob ( others). You gave me considerable pleasure trying to recall my long lost Latin skills. BTW, where does the cormorant (phalacrocoracis) fit in? Alan -- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:15 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: k-5 grip glitch grinds... sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium est I suspect my little effort is grammatically dubious - it's over 35 years since I did Latin at school. Still, I am feeling rather tempted to apply for the vacancy in the Vatican. I think I'd be good at writing bulls. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think you all need a lesson in Latin!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVy4BrxpKGQ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Alan Cole BTW, where does the cormorant (phalacrocoracis) fit in? ask yourself why it has such greasy plumage, and you may imagine the answer... The PDML's favourite fowl Is not the bobolink or owl It's not the tanager, The tit or the badger, It's the cormorant. The red-footed phalacrocorax Has such a gigantical thorax That when it takes flight It can't help but shite And that's why its nest smells of borax B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Alan Cole BTW, where does the cormorant (phalacrocoracis) fit in? ask yourself why it has such greasy plumage, and you may imagine the answer... The PDML's favourite fowl Is not the bobolink or owl It's not the tanager, The tit or the badger, It's the cormorant. The red-footed phalacrocorax Has such a gigantical thorax That when it takes flight It can't help but shite And that's why its nest smells of borax Iambic Mark! As we already have a lot of great material, I propose a poetry section for the 2013 PDML Annual. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for that Bob. Plena cacas. Thank goodness elephants can't fly! Another senior moment. Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin Gupta To Paul and the other PDMLers who have wasted Server time and space in writing such gibberish. Typical Childish behavior. Sorry to mention this. But this K-5 glitch was a serious topic and a good learning experience for all of us. Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land. refrigera vir! B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 20/2/13, Bipin Gupta, discombobulated, unleashed: To Paul and the other PDMLers who have wasted Server time and space in writing such gibberish. Typical Childish behavior. Unheard of. Mark!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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nullum sensum humor On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:53 AM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: To Paul and the other PDMLers who have wasted Server time and space in writing such gibberish. Typical Childish behavior. Sorry to mention this. But this K-5 glitch was a serious topic and a good learning experience for all of us. Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Res ipsa loquitor. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: February 20, 2013 2/20/13 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: K-5 grip glitch grinds... From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin Gupta To Paul and the other PDMLers who have wasted Server time and space in writing such gibberish. Typical Childish behavior. Sorry to mention this. But this K-5 glitch was a serious topic and a good learning experience for all of us. Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land. refrigera vir! B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Feb 20, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:53 AM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: To Paul and the other PDMLers who have wasted Server time and space in writing such gibberish. Typical Childish behavior. Sorry to mention this. But this K-5 glitch was a serious topic and a good learning experience for all of us. nullum sensum humor Shouldn't that be humum? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Aahz Maruch On Wed, Feb 20, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:53 AM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: To Paul and the other PDMLers who have wasted Server time and space in writing such gibberish. Typical Childish behavior. Sorry to mention this. But this K-5 glitch was a serious topic and a good learning experience for all of us. nullum sensum humor Shouldn't that be humum? 'humum' would be from 'humus', which means ground, earth, land. The form ending in -m (humum) is the accusative; what's needed here is the genitive (possesive form), which is 'humi' in the singular, and 'humorum' in the plural, meaning 'of the soil/s'. It still wouldn't actually mean anything much, because 'nullum sensum' is also in the accusative, so it's the object of the phrase, which has no subject. Perhaps one could understand 'habet', meaning 'he has' no sense of something, but sadly not 'humor' since that word doesn't appear to exist in Latin, and the etymology of the English word takes you quite a long way from its modern meaning. You might be able to have instead, nullum sensum comoediae habet, or ludi sensum non habet. I hope you enjoyed that little lesson, especially young Bipin. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:03:20PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 19, 2013, at 9:50 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bruce Walker On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Nielsen Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Illegitimus non carborundum Sarcina stercoris Phalacrocorax aristotelis -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Illegitimus non carborundum Sarcina stercoris Phalacrocorax aristotelis pulcherrimae plumae! B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Illegitimus non carborundum Sarcina stercoris Phalacrocorax aristotelis pulcherrimae plumae! Aguila non copit murem -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Illegitimus non carborundum Sarcina stercoris Phalacrocorax aristotelis pulcherrimae plumae! Aguila non copit murem sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 20/2/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium est Fecking mad, the lorra yous -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/20/2013 7:35 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Res ipsa loquitor. Ixnay with the Atinlay? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Illegitimus non carborundum Sarcina stercoris Phalacrocorax aristotelis pulcherrimae plumae! Aguila non copit murem sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium est castigat ridendo mores -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Illegitimus non carborundum Sarcina stercoris Phalacrocorax aristotelis pulcherrimae plumae! Aguila non copit murem sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium est I wish now that I'd paid more attention to my Latin master at high school (although I suspect even he would have trouble with some of what's being served up here) -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Illegitimus non carborundum Sarcina stercoris Phalacrocorax aristotelis pulcherrimae plumae! Aguila non copit murem sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium est castigat ridendo mores Bachata merengue danza plena -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Feb 20, 2013, Mark C wrote: On 2/20/2013 7:35 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Res ipsa loquitor. Ixnay with the Atinlay? Non compos mentis -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2013-02-20 5:35 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote Res ipsa loquitor. i have a pair of boxer shorts with that inscribed (from my partner's time in law school); the elastic is just about shot -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: You might be able to have instead, nullum sensum comoediae habet, or ludi sensum non habet. I hope you enjoyed that little lesson, especially young Bipin. Romanes eunt domus! *ducks* :D Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:08 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2013-02-20 5:35 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote Res ipsa loquitor. i have a pair of boxer shorts with that inscribed (from my partner's time in law school); the elastic is just about shot Not semper ubi sub ubi? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Nielsen Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Christine Nielsen Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... While shooting with the k-5 at my daughter's gymnastics meet, the camera stopped working. As in, I'd push the shutter, and though I'd feel something inside activating slightly (the mirror? though it wasn't the full-bodied slap of my previous run-in with mirror flops), the shutter would not release. Then, the battery indicator would appear empty (having appeared full seconds previous), and the LCD screen would say battery depleted. I couldn't get it to shoot... Not on manual focus. Not after turning off on. Not after removing battery replacing. Not after replacing battery with a different battery. Not after changing lenses. Not after checking to make sure it wasn't the k-7... Here's when it did work: after fiddling with a Setup menu item Select Battery... it has 3 options: Auto, Body First, Grip First. It must be set to Auto as default... and even though I was not using the grip at the time, the camera seemed to think I was, since it showed a little diagram of two batteries, both lit. I switched to Body First, and... bingo. Back in business. (I will add: grip was not attached, but I did have my tripod mount screwed into the base of the camera... ) So, what do you make of that? It is somewhat similar to the flops.. for which the camera has already been serviced... but not exactly. I've been meaning to send in my 16-50 for service (won't focus, won't shoot in AF)... maybe I send it all in together? Or maybe I wait until it really goes belly up can't be revived? I feel like I've had some bad luck with this camera... but maybe this is the cost of use? Did you have the grip attached when you first turned it on then remove the grip to mount it on the tripod? That's the only way I can think of that it would think the grip is attached when it isn't. If you turned it on with the grip attached then removed the grip it might glitch still be looking for that battery ... or not. I couldn't make the K20D do it, but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen. (Extrapolating from the K20D + grip) I believe that when Select Battery is set to auto, it uses whichever battery it thinks has the most charge when it's first turned on. When it's set to grip first or body first, it will use that battery until it's almost depleted, then you have to manually switch to the other battery by turning the camera off back on. Looking at the K20D Select Battery menu, icons for both batteries are shown even when the grip is not attached. When the battery grip is not attached, it should have a diagonal line through the grip battery icon to show that it's not present. In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/02/2013 10:29 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... odd thing story snipped So, what do you make of that? I think the K5 is a lemon, plain and simple. I'm starting to wonder if mine is, anyway. Which would be a drag, because otherwise, I've been a big fan of that camera. I'm of the opinion that Hoya specced the camera way higher than the hardware could reliably deliver. I believe they sourced all the electronic parts from the lowest bidder with little regard for how variances would affect performance and reliability, and they skipped doing any testing or quality control at all, going straight from design to boxed units on the shelves with no steps in between. There are lots of good ones, but there are way too many bad ones out there to believe Hoya wasn't wringing every Yen possible out of the thing to make the camera division look at least somewhat profitable. From what I've read, the K5II and K5IIs, which are Ricoh era cameras, are closer to what the K5 should have been. Maybe they'll just send me one of those, then. Ha. -c Hopefully they've fixed the lens release button. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Nielsen Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... :) -c B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:37 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: e sure Did you have the grip attached when you first turned it on then remove the grip to mount it on the tripod? That's the only way I can think of that it would think the grip is attached when it isn't. If you turned it on with the grip attached then removed the grip it might glitch still be looking for that battery ... or not., No, the grip hasn't been attached for weeks. I usually leave the tripod mounting plate attached to the camera though. I couldn't make the K20D do it, but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen. (Extrapolating from the K20D + grip) I believe that when Select Battery is set to auto, it uses whichever battery it thinks has the most charge when it's first turned on. That's what I figured, too... When it's set to grip first or body first, it will use that battery until it's almost depleted, then you have to manually switch to the other battery by turning the camera off back on. Looking at the K20D Select Battery menu, icons for both batteries are shown even when the grip is not attached. OK, good to know... When I saw both icons shown, even without grip, I thought that was odd... but maybe that's how it is. Either way, it seemed as if the camera was trying to access the other battery... which wasn't there. I'll have to play with it some more today see if I can replicate the problem... Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bill, It's not like Pentax has a history of getting it right the 1st time. (SF1n or PZ-1p) Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/02/2013 10:29 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... odd thing story snipped So, what do you make of that? I think the K5 is a lemon, plain and simple. I'm of the opinion that Hoya specced the camera way higher than the hardware could reliably deliver. I believe they sourced all the electronic parts from the lowest bidder with little regard for how variances would affect performance and reliability, and they skipped doing any testing or quality control at all, going straight from design to boxed units on the shelves with no steps in between. There are lots of good ones, but there are way too many bad ones out there to believe Hoya wasn't wringing every Yen possible out of the thing to make the camera division look at least somewhat profitable. From what I've read, the K5II and K5IIs, which are Ricoh era cameras, are closer to what the K5 should have been. Hopefully they've fixed the lens release button. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Christine, I think the power/battery management system has been wonky since grips were 1st sold. For that matter, even before grips were sold, power was a camera problem. (The *ist D went from 3/3 on the battery to fully dead in nanoseconds.) It's always the first place I look when I encounter a problem. Set the camera for internal battery first and don't worry. It's only a problem if there is now way to work around it. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:37 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: e sure Did you have the grip attached when you first turned it on then remove the grip to mount it on the tripod? That's the only way I can think of that it would think the grip is attached when it isn't. If you turned it on with the grip attached then removed the grip it might glitch still be looking for that battery ... or not., No, the grip hasn't been attached for weeks. I usually leave the tripod mounting plate attached to the camera though. I couldn't make the K20D do it, but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen. (Extrapolating from the K20D + grip) I believe that when Select Battery is set to auto, it uses whichever battery it thinks has the most charge when it's first turned on. That's what I figured, too... When it's set to grip first or body first, it will use that battery until it's almost depleted, then you have to manually switch to the other battery by turning the camera off back on. Looking at the K20D Select Battery menu, icons for both batteries are shown even when the grip is not attached. OK, good to know... When I saw both icons shown, even without grip, I thought that was odd... but maybe that's how it is. Either way, it seemed as if the camera was trying to access the other battery... which wasn't there. I'll have to play with it some more today see if I can replicate the problem... Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Nielsen Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 11 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:59:08 -0500 From: Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: k-5 grip glitch grinds... Message-ID: cajuu0cemjpbx08tcjp9jltstoedvmtzx3t6ucwe0ntjpkpb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Nielsen Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Bibo, ergo sum. :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't think there is anything really wrong with the k-5's design. I mean the biggest two issues were the mirror flop and the sensor stain issues. If anything, the problem was more with quality control than anything else. Shame about the lens release too. Adhesives fail. Sh*t happens. The D600 and D800 both had their share of issues as well. As production goes on, these problems are all slowly fixed. I bought my k-5 at the tail end of its production cycle. Actually production had already ceased. I don't have any problems with it whatsoever. I have some low light focusing issues with certain types of lighting, but big whoop. AF has always been a weaker area of pentax in comparison the canikon and honestly, I think the k-5 was a big improvement over the k-7 and the k-5 ii solved most of the low light issues for most people from what I read. Actually the k-7 was the proving ground for that body design and I would imagine that many of the components asides from the logic board and AF/meter sensors were reused from the k-7. The mirror, shutter, pentaprism, LCD, everything else was probably just recycled...if it ain't broke Oh I forgot about p-ttl being wonky with bounce. I typically use an autothyristor flash anyways, so p-ttl isn't even a consideration. I can adjust the flash output in EV steps. You can do the same with p-ttl tooI don't get what the big deal is really. From what I hear it is a consistent value that it is off. The built in flash has always worked ok for me when I am forced to use it. Kind of glad its there actually. Ok so the k-5 had some problemsa lemon? Not really. No camera or system is perfect. My pentax cameras have all been very reliable. I'm sure the gearing on my zx-7 will fail eventually, but who cares when you pay $15 for a body? I have a k1000 and spotmatic needing some TLC from Eric. Once those eventually get sent off I will be good on 35mm film bodies for as long as film sticks around. On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/02/2013 10:29 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... odd thing story snipped So, what do you make of that? I think the K5 is a lemon, plain and simple. I'm of the opinion that Hoya specced the camera way higher than the hardware could reliably deliver. I believe they sourced all the electronic parts from the lowest bidder with little regard for how variances would affect performance and reliability, and they skipped doing any testing or quality control at all, going straight from design to boxed units on the shelves with no steps in between. There are lots of good ones, but there are way too many bad ones out there to believe Hoya wasn't wringing every Yen possible out of the thing to make the camera division look at least somewhat profitable. From what I've read, the K5II and K5IIs, which are Ricoh era cameras, are closer to what the K5 should have been. Hopefully they've fixed the lens release button. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Bruce Walker On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Nielsen Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Illegitimus non carborundum -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 19, 2013, at 9:50 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bruce Walker On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Nielsen Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Illegitimus non carborundum Sarcina stercoris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Vinum carum, coitus vilus. Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 19, 2013, at 9:50 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bruce Walker On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Nielsen Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Illegitimus non carborundum Sarcina stercoris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Feb 19, 2013, l...@red4est.com wrote: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 19, 2013, at 9:50 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bruce Walker On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Nielsen Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Illegitimus non carborundum Sarcina stercoris Vinum carum, coitus vilus. Veni, vidi, visa -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/19/2013 10:37 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013, l...@red4est.com wrote: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 19, 2013, at 9:50 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bruce Walker On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Nielsen Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... [...] In other news, I bought a k-01 today. (Before all the other stuff happened.) post hoc ergo propter hoc ... caveat emptor... In latin, truthiness. -- -bmw I have no help for Christine but in vino est veritas Illegitimus non carborundum Sarcina stercoris Vinum carum, coitus vilus. Veni, vidi, visa Klaatu barada nikto. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I didn't realize the Romans were such a vulgar lot. My Latin teacher must have practiced some sort of censorship. Nihil sub sole novum. Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 18/02/2013 10:29 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Here's an odd thing that happened to me today... odd thing story snipped So, what do you make of that? I think the K5 is a lemon, plain and simple. I'm of the opinion that Hoya specced the camera way higher than the hardware could reliably deliver. I believe they sourced all the electronic parts from the lowest bidder with little regard for how variances would affect performance and reliability, and they skipped doing any testing or quality control at all, going straight from design to boxed units on the shelves with no steps in between. There are lots of good ones, but there are way too many bad ones out there to believe Hoya wasn't wringing every Yen possible out of the thing to make the camera division look at least somewhat profitable. From what I've read, the K5II and K5IIs, which are Ricoh era cameras, are closer to what the K5 should have been. Hopefully they've fixed the lens release button. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
