Re: Samsung lenses
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:16 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: "Brian Walters" >> >> >> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:03 -0600, "Jeffery Smith" >> wrote: >>> >>> > This has undoubtedly been asked before, but here goes. Are Samsung >>> > cameras/lenses corresponding to similar Pentax items not sold in the >>> > USA? >>> > I recall that Samsung started a line of dSLR cameras and lenses (badged >>> > as Schneider) a year or two ago, but have never heard of or seen them >>> > since. >> >> I think Samsung's days of re-badging Pentaxes is over. They stopped >> doing that with the GX20 (the equivalent of the K20D). They are more >> interested now in developing their NX models. >> >> I don't know if the re-badged models were ever sold in the USA (they >> probably were) but as they are now superseded, it's not surprising that >> they aren't seen. >> > > I thought the Samsung GX10 & GX20 were considered to be co-development > between Pentax & Samasung, rather than simply re-badged Pentaxes. > > There were trifling differences in control layout and operation, as well as > Samsung offering only DNG for their raw file. > > Any "Schneider Kreuznach" lens made to mount on the GX10 & GX20 should be > KAF2 & usable on Pentax. I think there may have been one or two Samsung > "Schneider Kreuznach" lens designs that were not re-badged Pentax lenses, > but I couldn't say what they were. > > I have seen the GX10 at least once, even held one in my hands. As I remember > it, it was almost, but not quite identical to my K-10D. > > It was at a Wolf Camera store, and you know how that turned out. > The GX10 and GX20 were fundamentally Pentax cameras with fairly significant changes to the software and new external shells. The earlier *ist-based bodies differed only in software and markings. Pentax designed the camera and processing system, Samsung contributed the sensor (GX20 only) and then modified the designs to suit. All of the K mount Schneider Kreuznach lenses were rebadged Pentax lenses (but non-K mount examples are not). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung lenses
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 08:16 -0500, "John Sessoms" wrote: > I thought the Samsung GX10 & GX20 were considered to be co-development > between Pentax & Samasung, rather than simply re-badged Pentaxes. You may be right although I thought Samsung's involvement with the GX20 was mainly to do with the sensor. I'd be surprised if Samsung had much involvement with the earlier models, given that they used Sony sensors. I think Samsung may have used its own image processing train. I wonder if anyone ever did any comparisons between the image quality of the GX20 and K20D, particularly at higher ISOs. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung lenses
From: "Brian Walters" > On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:03 -0600, "Jeffery Smith" wrote: > This has undoubtedly been asked before, but here goes. Are Samsung > cameras/lenses corresponding to similar Pentax items not sold in the USA? > I recall that Samsung started a line of dSLR cameras and lenses (badged > as Schneider) a year or two ago, but have never heard of or seen them > since. I think Samsung's days of re-badging Pentaxes is over. They stopped doing that with the GX20 (the equivalent of the K20D). They are more interested now in developing their NX models. I don't know if the re-badged models were ever sold in the USA (they probably were) but as they are now superseded, it's not surprising that they aren't seen. I thought the Samsung GX10 & GX20 were considered to be co-development between Pentax & Samasung, rather than simply re-badged Pentaxes. There were trifling differences in control layout and operation, as well as Samsung offering only DNG for their raw file. Any "Schneider Kreuznach" lens made to mount on the GX10 & GX20 should be KAF2 & usable on Pentax. I think there may have been one or two Samsung "Schneider Kreuznach" lens designs that were not re-badged Pentax lenses, but I couldn't say what they were. I have seen the GX10 at least once, even held one in my hands. As I remember it, it was almost, but not quite identical to my K-10D. It was at a Wolf Camera store, and you know how that turned out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung lenses
B&H had them in limited amounts for a while. I was thinking it would be kind of cool to have a Schneider 35mm f2.0, but it proved to be even more expensive than the Pentax version... On 11/11/2010 10:14 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:03 -0600, "Jeffery Smith" wrote: This has undoubtedly been asked before, but here goes. Are Samsung cameras/lenses corresponding to similar Pentax items not sold in the USA? I recall that Samsung started a line of dSLR cameras and lenses (badged as Schneider) a year or two ago, but have never heard of or seen them since. I think Samsung's days of re-badging Pentaxes is over. They stopped doing that with the GX20 (the equivalent of the K20D). They are more interested now in developing their NX models. I don't know if the re-badged models were ever sold in the USA (they probably were) but as they are now superseded, it's not surprising that they aren't seen. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung lenses
On 11 November 2010 22:14, Brian Walters wrote: > > I think Samsung's days of re-badging Pentaxes is over. They stopped > doing that with the GX20 (the equivalent of the K20D). They are more > interested now in developing their NX models. > > I don't know if the re-badged models were ever sold in the USA (they > probably were) but as they are now superseded, it's not surprising that > they aren't seen. > > Cheers > > Brian I'm pretty sure I saw the Samsung P/KAF lenses on B&H at some point. The funny thing is they were a lot more expensive than the Pentax equivalents. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung lenses
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:03 -0600, "Jeffery Smith" wrote: > This has undoubtedly been asked before, but here goes. Are Samsung > cameras/lenses corresponding to similar Pentax items not sold in the USA? > I recall that Samsung started a line of dSLR cameras and lenses (badged > as Schneider) a year or two ago, but have never heard of or seen them > since. I think Samsung's days of re-badging Pentaxes is over. They stopped doing that with the GX20 (the equivalent of the K20D). They are more interested now in developing their NX models. I don't know if the re-badged models were ever sold in the USA (they probably were) but as they are now superseded, it's not surprising that they aren't seen. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Samsung lenses
This has undoubtedly been asked before, but here goes. Are Samsung cameras/lenses corresponding to similar Pentax items not sold in the USA? I recall that Samsung started a line of dSLR cameras and lenses (badged as Schneider) a year or two ago, but have never heard of or seen them since. Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
