Re: Smoothing out tan lines in lightroom?

2011-11-28 Thread David Parsons
The clone/heal tool in LR is only a spot brush.   It's not really
designed to do what you did.

You can do it in a pinch, but it is sub-optimal.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> Don't know for light room, but I pulled image 20110806-LRC22495.jpg into
> photoshop, set the clone tool to 35% transparency and was able to quickly
> eliminate the dagger like tan line running down her chest and the shoulder
> lines. My edit was crude but you could easily clean with the healing brush.
> Do they not have those tools in lightroom? I only use Photoshop / ACR. I
> spend about 90 seconds on the image but I doubt that it would take more than
> 5 minutes to do a fully good clean up.
>
> On 11/27/2011 4:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> Rebecca asked if I could smooth out tan lines in her upper arms in some
>> photos from this photo shoot:
>> www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627282460471
>> Rebecca is the brunette in the first four photos.
>> I don't know how to do so in lightroom, without her upper arms looking
>> like they are constructed of blurry plastic.  I *might* be able to do
>> something with the burn/dodge brush.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  Or
>> is that a photo shop job?
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Re: Smoothing out tan lines in lightroom?

2011-11-28 Thread Mark C
Don't know for light room, but I pulled image 20110806-LRC22495.jpg into 
photoshop, set the clone tool to 35% transparency and was able to 
quickly eliminate the dagger like tan line running down her chest and 
the shoulder lines. My edit was crude but you could easily clean with 
the healing brush. Do they not have those tools in lightroom? I only use 
Photoshop / ACR. I spend about 90 seconds on the image but I doubt that 
it would take more than 5 minutes to do a fully good clean up.


On 11/27/2011 4:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Rebecca asked if I could smooth out tan lines in her upper arms in some photos 
from this photo shoot:
www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627282460471
Rebecca is the brunette in the first four photos.
I don't know how to do so in lightroom, without her upper arms looking like 
they are constructed of blurry plastic.  I *might* be able to do something with 
the burn/dodge brush.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  Or is that a photo 
shop job?


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Re: Smoothing out tan lines in lightroom?

2011-11-27 Thread Larry Colen



On 11/27/2011 9:10 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Larry,

There is a way of smoothing out tan lines without LR or PS.
It is done with "photos" (in the original, Greek, meaning of the word),
and it is less technical but more natural.
And yes, it might be a bit more "graphic"...

Are you sure it was not what she actually meant?


I'm afraid that not even my studio strobes are powerful enough to smooth 
out her tan lines in that way.



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Re: Smoothing out tan lines in lightroom?

2011-11-27 Thread Igor Roshchin

Larry,

There is a way of smoothing out tan lines without LR or PS.
It is done with "photos" (in the original, Greek, meaning of the word), 
and it is less technical but more natural.
And yes, it might be a bit more "graphic"... 

Are you sure it was not what she actually meant?

:-)

Igor


On Nov 27, 2011, at 13:19 , Larry Colen wrote:

> Rebecca asked if I could smooth out tan lines in her upper arms in
> some photos from this photo shoot:
> www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627282460471
> Rebecca is the brunette in the first four photos.
> I don't know how to do so in lightroom, without her upper arms looking
> like they are constructed of blurry plastic.  I *might* be able to do
> something with the burn/dodge brush.  Does anyone have any
> suggestions?  Or is that a photo shop job?

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Re: Smoothing out tan lines in lightroom?

2011-11-27 Thread Larry Colen



On 11/27/2011 7:39 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

I think you've done it the easiest way. Close-ups of her face while singing are 
very good.


Thank you.


The one medium shot it would not be noticeable if you didn't bring it up.


This is the set of photos that she chose from that night:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157628182131755/
or
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157628182131755/

I followed the advice of using the adjustment brush, with clarity and 
sharpness dialed down.


I suspect that Rebecca is the only person who would even notice the tan 
lines in the unretouched photos.




On Nov 27, 2011, at 13:19 , Larry Colen wrote:


Rebecca asked if I could smooth out tan lines in her upper arms in some photos 
from this photo shoot:
www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627282460471
Rebecca is the brunette in the first four photos.
I don't know how to do so in lightroom, without her upper arms looking like 
they are constructed of blurry plastic.  I *might* be able to do something with 
the burn/dodge brush.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  Or is that a photo 
shop job?


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Re: Smoothing out tan lines in lightroom?

2011-11-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
I think you've done it the easiest way. Close-ups of her face while singing are 
very good. The one medium shot it would not be noticeable if you didn't bring 
it up.

On Nov 27, 2011, at 13:19 , Larry Colen wrote:

> Rebecca asked if I could smooth out tan lines in her upper arms in some 
> photos from this photo shoot:
> www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627282460471
> Rebecca is the brunette in the first four photos.
> I don't know how to do so in lightroom, without her upper arms looking like 
> they are constructed of blurry plastic.  I *might* be able to do something 
> with the burn/dodge brush.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  Or is that a 
> photo shop job?

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Re: Smoothing out tan lines in lightroom?

2011-11-27 Thread Larry Colen

On Nov 27, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Um, there are no tan lines in the first four photos, so you're golden.

She gave me a list of file numbers from the full photo shoot, I haven't tracked 
down which is which.

> 

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Re: Smoothing out tan lines in lightroom?

2011-11-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Um, there are no tan lines in the first four photos, so you're golden.

On Nov 27, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> Rebecca asked if I could smooth out tan lines in her upper arms in some 
> photos from this photo shoot:
> www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627282460471
> Rebecca is the brunette in the first four photos.
> I don't know how to do so in lightroom, without her upper arms looking like 
> they are constructed of blurry plastic.  I *might* be able to do something 
> with the burn/dodge brush.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  Or is that a 
> photo shop job?
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Re: Smoothing out tan lines in lightroom?

2011-11-27 Thread Paul Sorenson
You can try this in LR.  It works pretty well for smoothing complexion 
and shadow problems.

**
Using the brush tool,
Set:
Exposure = -4.00
Clarity = -100
Sharpness = -100

Adjust brush size & feather amount as necessary for the area you want to 
repair.

Set flow to about 75 for starters

Brush over the area you want to adjust - it will show as black so it's 
easy for you to see where you've brushed

Return Exposure to zero and see if you like what you've done

Repeat or re-do as necessary if you don't like what you see.
Setting the flow to a higher value will strengthen the effect
Set to a lower value for less effect.
*
If you can't get the results you want, then you'll have to move to 
PhotoShop, but I've had some good results using this method.


-p



On 11/27/2011 3:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Rebecca asked if I could smooth out tan lines in her upper arms in some photos 
from this photo shoot:
www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627282460471
Rebecca is the brunette in the first four photos.
I don't know how to do so in lightroom, without her upper arms looking like 
they are constructed of blurry plastic.  I *might* be able to do something with 
the burn/dodge brush.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  Or is that a photo 
shop job?


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Re: Smoothing out tan lines in lightroom?

2011-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>>Rebecca asked if I could smooth out tan lines in her upper arms in some 
>>photos from this photo shoot:
>>www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627282460471
>>Rebecca is the brunette in the first four photos.
>>I don't know how to do so in lightroom, without her upper arms looking like 
>>they are constructed of blurry plastic.  I *might* be able to do something 
>>with the burn/dodge brush.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  Or is that a 
>>photo shop job?
>
> Photoshop. Don't mess with Lightroom for this kind of work.

I agree. That's image manipulation beyond what LR was intended for.

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Re: Smoothing out tan lines in lightroom?

2011-11-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen  wrote:

>Rebecca asked if I could smooth out tan lines in her upper arms in some photos 
>from this photo shoot:
>www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627282460471
>Rebecca is the brunette in the first four photos.
>I don't know how to do so in lightroom, without her upper arms looking like 
>they are constructed of blurry plastic.  I *might* be able to do something 
>with the burn/dodge brush.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  Or is that a 
>photo shop job?

Photoshop. Don't mess with Lightroom for this kind of work.

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Smoothing out tan lines in lightroom?

2011-11-27 Thread Larry Colen
Rebecca asked if I could smooth out tan lines in her upper arms in some photos 
from this photo shoot:
www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627282460471
Rebecca is the brunette in the first four photos.
I don't know how to do so in lightroom, without her upper arms looking like 
they are constructed of blurry plastic.  I *might* be able to do something with 
the burn/dodge brush.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  Or is that a photo 
shop job?


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