Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-10 Thread Mike Hamilton
I've never been satisfied with the mounting of any strap on the SLRs
that I've owned.  With the K10D, I finally did something about it.

My main issue is the straps getting in the way when I'm holding the
camera.  Getting in the way of the SD card door, in the way of my
hands, when mounted on a tripod, etc...

Here's my solution (better described in pics than words)
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-1.jpg
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-2.jpg

The little keyrings are stolen from an old Canonet GIII QL17
rangefinder (not sure if they were original or not).  The strap is
from a LowePro TLZ1 bag that doesn't see much use anymore.
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Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-16 Thread Walter Hamler
I know this is old news (thread) but I was at the camera store this AM. 
While there I picked up one of these
http://www.optechusa.com/product/detail/?PRODUCT_ID=23&PRODUCT_SUB_ID=&CATEGORY_ID=4

20.00 and it has the detachable snaps. They had another brand that had the 
little zip pockets but it didn't have the detachable snap.
I like this much better than the Pentax strap as it is much more 
comfortable.

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread John Coyle
Mike - just a caution - I did a similar thing with my MZ-S, but found the 
metal buckles quickly wore the paint off.
If you could find a similar soft leather arrangement, maybe
HTH

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia

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> I've never been satisfied with the mounting of any strap on the SLRs
> that I've owned.  With the K10D, I finally did something about it.
>
> My main issue is the straps getting in the way when I'm holding the
> camera.  Getting in the way of the SD card door, in the way of my
> hands, when mounted on a tripod, etc...
>
> Here's my solution (better described in pics than words)
> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-1.jpg
> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-2.jpg
>
> The little keyrings are stolen from an old Canonet GIII QL17
> rangefinder (not sure if they were original or not).  The strap is
> from a LowePro TLZ1 bag that doesn't see much use anymore.
> -- 
>
> Cheers,
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Cotty
On 10/4/07, Mike Hamilton, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Here's my solution (better described in pics than words)
>http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-1.jpg
>http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-2.jpg


Ye gods, I don't like all that metalwork hanging around near the body.
My solution was to sew on some permanent short sections (ironically of
Pentax MX strap) to the body lug on one side, and use a wrist grip on
the other. I can then attach the neck strap at will.



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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Mike,

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:46:30 -0600, Mike Hamilton wrote:

>I've never been satisfied with the mounting of any strap on the SLRs
>that I've owned.  With the K10D, I finally did something about it.
>
>My main issue is the straps getting in the way when I'm holding the
>camera.  Getting in the way of the SD card door, in the way of my
>hands, when mounted on a tripod, etc...

Me too, I want to be able to remove the neck-strap easily ...

>Here's my solution (better described in pics than words)
>http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-1.jpg
>http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-2.jpg
>
>The little keyrings are stolen from an old Canonet GIII QL17
>rangefinder (not sure if they were original or not).  The strap is
>from a LowePro TLZ1 bag that doesn't see much use anymore.

Hmm, too much sharp metal for my taste, 
they WILL damage the camera after a while ...

I used a short loop of an old strap (much like Cotty I guess :-)
plus some non-scratching 'carabine' aluminium hooks:

http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=19

The third row in that gallery shows details of the lugs.
The lugs are small enough to not be in the way
with the neck-strap removed ...


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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread David Savage
...or:



Cheers,

Dave

On 4/11/07, Jan van Wijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:46:30 -0600, Mike Hamilton wrote:
>
> >I've never been satisfied with the mounting of any strap on the SLRs
> >that I've owned.  With the K10D, I finally did something about it.
> >
> >My main issue is the straps getting in the way when I'm holding the
> >camera.  Getting in the way of the SD card door, in the way of my
> >hands, when mounted on a tripod, etc...
>
> Me too, I want to be able to remove the neck-strap easily ...
>
> >Here's my solution (better described in pics than words)
> >http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-1.jpg
> >http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-2.jpg
> >
> >The little keyrings are stolen from an old Canonet GIII QL17
> >rangefinder (not sure if they were original or not).  The strap is
> >from a LowePro TLZ1 bag that doesn't see much use anymore.
>
> Hmm, too much sharp metal for my taste,
> they WILL damage the camera after a while ...
>
> I used a short loop of an old strap (much like Cotty I guess :-)
> plus some non-scratching 'carabine' aluminium hooks:
>
> http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=19
>
> The third row in that gallery shows details of the lugs.
> The lugs are small enough to not be in the way
> with the neck-strap removed ...

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 11/04/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...or:
>
> 

...or

http://www.tamrac.com/g_camerastraps.htm  (I use a combo of N-45 and
N15 straps on all my cameras and cases, so all my straps are
interchangeable)

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have a similar releasable strap made by Tamarac. No cobbling  
necessary:-).
Paul
On Apr 11, 2007, at 7:14 AM, David Savage wrote:

> ...or:
>
>  Speedster.aspx>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> On 4/11/07, Jan van Wijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:46:30 -0600, Mike Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> I've never been satisfied with the mounting of any strap on the SLRs
>>> that I've owned.  With the K10D, I finally did something about it.
>>>
>>> My main issue is the straps getting in the way when I'm holding the
>>> camera.  Getting in the way of the SD card door, in the way of my
>>> hands, when mounted on a tripod, etc...
>>
>> Me too, I want to be able to remove the neck-strap easily ...
>>
>>> Here's my solution (better described in pics than words)
>>> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-1.jpg
>>> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-2.jpg
>>>
>>> The little keyrings are stolen from an old Canonet GIII QL17
>>> rangefinder (not sure if they were original or not).  The strap is
>>> from a LowePro TLZ1 bag that doesn't see much use anymore.
>>
>> Hmm, too much sharp metal for my taste,
>> they WILL damage the camera after a while ...
>>
>> I used a short loop of an old strap (much like Cotty I guess :-)
>> plus some non-scratching 'carabine' aluminium hooks:
>>
>> http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=19
>>
>> The third row in that gallery shows details of the lugs.
>> The lugs are small enough to not be in the way
>> with the neck-strap removed ...
>
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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Mike Hamilton
> >> Hmm, too much sharp metal for my taste,
> >> they WILL damage the camera after a while ...

There is some slight paint wear on the lugs, but that's not something
that concerns me.  The key rings will not affect any other bit on the
camera.


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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If damage is character, well, I prefer less character in my equipment.

My solution to this problem is that I generally do without the  
neckstrap entirely and use a handstrap only. But there are times  
when  neckstrap might be useful, so I've adopted a solution similar  
to others in that I have a couple of short, soft links on the strap  
lugs to allow fitting a neckstrap with a quick release. It works well.

I don't know who made the neck strap I have: I've had it for about  
two decades and used it with all manner of cameras, but it has very  
nice, compact, strong quick releases that work well.

Godfrey

On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:

> What's wrong with wearing the paint off...it gives your camera  
> "character".
> Norm
>
> John Coyle wrote:
>> Mike - just a caution - I did a similar thing with my MZ-S, but  
>> found the
>> metal buckles quickly wore the paint off.
>> If you could find a similar soft leather arrangement, maybe


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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Norm Baugher
What's wrong with wearing the paint off...it gives your camera "character".
Norm

John Coyle wrote:
> Mike - just a caution - I did a similar thing with my MZ-S, but found the 
> metal buckles quickly wore the paint off.
> If you could find a similar soft leather arrangement, maybe
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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Norm Baugher
I forgot - I was thinking 6 x 7. Character <> Damage
Norm

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> If damage is character, well, I prefer less character in my equipment.
>
> My solution to this problem is that I generally do without the  
> neckstrap entirely and use a handstrap only. But there are times  
> when  neckstrap might be useful, so I've adopted a solution similar  
> to others in that I have a couple of short, soft links on the strap  
> lugs to allow fitting a neckstrap with a quick release. It works well.
>
> I don't know who made the neck strap I have: I've had it for about  
> two decades and used it with all manner of cameras, but it has very  
> nice, compact, strong quick releases that work well.
>
> Godfrey
>
> On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:
>
>   
>> What's wrong with wearing the paint off...it gives your camera  
>> "character".
>> Norm
>>
>> John Coyle wrote:
>> 
>>> Mike - just a caution - I did a similar thing with my MZ-S, but  
>>> found the
>>> metal buckles quickly wore the paint off.
>>> If you could find a similar soft leather arrangement, maybe
>>>   
>
>
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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Rob,

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:22:45 +1000, Digital Image Studio wrote:

>On 11/04/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ...or:
>>
>> 
>
>...or
>
>http://www.tamrac.com/g_camerastraps.htm  (I use a combo of N-45 and
>N15 straps on all my cameras and cases, so all my straps are
>interchangeable)

The problem with (most of ?) these ready made straps is that IF the
neck-strap part is detacable, the parts remaining on the camera
are WAY to large for comfort ...

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread William Robb
Character <> Damage > Norm

Excellent.
WW

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 07:46:30PM -0600, Mike Hamilton wrote..
> I've never been satisfied with the mounting of any strap on the SLRs
> that I've owned.  With the K10D, I finally did something about it.

On my MX I have for the longest time used a similar hack, along
with a rubber anti-scratch tube around the metal bits.  The rubber
tube: a punctured race bicycle inner-tire.  Lasts forever ;-)

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/4/07, Jan van Wijk, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>I used a short loop of an old strap (much like Cotty I guess :-)
>plus some non-scratching 'carabine' aluminium hooks:
>
>   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=19

Sew those mothers on! Looks like it might come unhooked in a light breeze!!

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/04/07, Jan van Wijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The problem with (most of ?) these ready made straps is that IF the
> neck-strap part is detacable, the parts remaining on the camera
> are WAY to large for comfort ...

Agreed, not an ideal solution, only the P67, P645 and LX offer that
IMHO but you do get used to it, the remaining part of the strap flips
up out of the way pretty easily, it becomes automatic after a short
while.

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yeah, I never notice the strap entrails, and I have the same Tamarac  
straps that Rob referenced.. The clips are hanging there, but out of  
mind for me. However, I  usually leave the straps in place. It's only  
in the studio that I always detach it. Straps are a no-brainer. I  
don't think about them. They serve the singular purpose of preventing  
camera/ground contact.
Paul

On Apr 11, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

> On 12/04/07, Jan van Wijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> The problem with (most of ?) these ready made straps is that IF the
>> neck-strap part is detacable, the parts remaining on the camera
>> are WAY to large for comfort ...
>
> Agreed, not an ideal solution, only the P67, P645 and LX offer that
> IMHO but you do get used to it, the remaining part of the strap flips
> up out of the way pretty easily, it becomes automatic after a short
> while.
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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-12 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Cotty,

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:57:32 +0100, Cotty wrote:

>>I used a short loop of an old strap (much like Cotty I guess :-)
>>plus some non-scratching 'carabine' aluminium hooks:
>>
>>  http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=19
>
>Sew those mothers on! Looks like it might come unhooked in a light breeze!!

Thanks for caring, but don't worry, but they ARE sewed on :-)

I actually had a shoemaker sew that for me using extra strong material. 
The plastic parts saying 'Pentax' on them are just for looks ;-)

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RE: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-17 Thread Rod Connan
I also have one of these - I got the one with the normal straps rather than
the "loop" ones as these make the assembly too short for my height. I often
like to put my right arm through the strap to stop the camera swinging back
and forth sideways.

I find it extremely comfortable with my K10D+BGrip - also I have super
shortened a couple of their snap clip camera straps so I can hang the camera
from by backpack straps and also from my camera-vest which has D-rings up
near the collar.

Finally - because they were smart and have the male clip on one strap and
the female on the other strap you can make a nice short loop for camera
carry or use as a security strap on the tripod.

I am VERY pleased with this bit of gear - Rod

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I know this is old news (thread) but I was at the camera store this AM. 
While there I picked up one of these
http://www.optechusa.com/product/detail/?PRODUCT_ID=23&PRODUCT_SUB_ID=&CATEG
ORY_ID=4

20.00 and it has the detachable snaps. They had another brand that had the 
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I like this much better than the Pentax strap as it is much more 
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