Re: The economics of Digital photography.
On 9/22/2015 1:49 PM, John wrote: On 9/22/2015 12:09 AM, Bill wrote: On 21/09/2015 7:11 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: All that's assuming that you don't already own, or want to own a computer. All well and good, but I wouldn't have an 8 core CPU and 32gigs of RAM were it not for digital photography. True, but is that a good thing or a bad thing? I consider it a good thing if you're running an OS that hogs ram, and what OS doesn't these days. Personally I'm running a 6 Core system, with only 4 gig of ram, but I'm also running WinXP on my photo machine, mostly for hardware compatibility. More ram would be superfluous, though to bring it up to 16 gig would be only about, (I was going to say $200, for the same quality memory, I'm using now, but I just checked prices and it would be, get this), $74. Which is all my MB supports. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The economics of Digital photography.
On 9/22/2015 12:09 AM, Bill wrote: On 21/09/2015 7:11 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: All that's assuming that you don't already own, or want to own a computer. All well and good, but I wouldn't have an 8 core CPU and 32gigs of RAM were it not for digital photography. True, but is that a good thing or a bad thing? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The economics of Digital photography.
Well, my work computer is a late 2008 MacBook Pro, updated with an SSHD and Yosemite. At work it's in a docking station with an external keyboard, a mouse, a printer, and a 24 in. monitor. At home, there is a lovely iMac. My wife uses it for her work, and she works a lot. So, a few years ago I got a Mac Mini, a 24 in monitor, a keyboard, trackball, i1 Display, and two external hard drives for photos. One of these days I'll upgrade the internal hard drive to an SSHD. All I use it for is photos and PDML. I don't pollute it with work. So, it's a photo expense. Rick On Sep 22, 2015, at 1:38 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Why? I'd have my computer system today anyway. Maybe not the calibration > equipment, but everything else. I do a lot more with my computer than just > process photographs. > > G > >> On Sep 21, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Rick Womerwrote: >> >> Of course, you have to factor in the cost of the computer, storage, monitor, >> software, and calibration equipment. >> >> I think digital is still cheaper than film, but far from "free". >> >> Someday I might figure it all out... maybe. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The economics of Digital photography.
Why? I'd have my computer system today anyway. Maybe not the calibration equipment, but everything else. I do a lot more with my computer than just process photographs. G > On Sep 21, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Rick Womerwrote: > > Of course, you have to factor in the cost of the computer, storage, monitor, > software, and calibration equipment. > > I think digital is still cheaper than film, but far from "free". > > Someday I might figure it all out... maybe. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The economics of Digital photography.
No, but 6 core and 16 gig's would probably do. Not all that expensive to build, and is a slightly below average gaming machine, or software development workstation. More than enough power for digital image rendering. What you've got will probably let you produce you're pro quality movies. On 9/22/2015 12:09 AM, Bill wrote: On 21/09/2015 7:11 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: All that's assuming that you don't already own, or want to own a computer. All well and good, but I wouldn't have an 8 core CPU and 32gigs of RAM were it not for digital photography. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The economics of Digital photography.
All that's assuming that you don't already own, or want to own a computer. Remember a computer can not only take the place of a Slide viewer/projecter, but an entire darkroom. A good quality enlarger could cost at least as much as a mid range computer system, before investing in enlarging lenses. In addition, a computer can be used as a communications device, a movie viewer, it gives access to libraries of information and data, not to mention pornography and cat pictures... I suppose that Pornography and Cat pictures are the same thing to some people, especially if they're Japanese http://www.weirdasianews.com/2015/09/18/japan-loves-women-in-cat-themed-lingerie/ On 9/21/2015 8:46 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Of course, you have to factor in the cost of the computer, storage, monitor, software, and calibration equipment. I think digital is still cheaper than film, but far from "free". Someday I might figure it all out... maybe. Rick On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:02 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: You know it's funny, I hadn't thought about this in a long time, but: It was always touted that you paid more for a modern digital camera than an equivalent film camera, up front, and saved on the cost of processing the film over time. It just occurred to me that I spent more in both nominal and inflation adjusted terms on my last purchased Pentax LX during the film era, than I did for my K-5II, true I bought both used, but still price per frame shot is much lower with the K-5II in fact it's essentially free, almost literally. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The economics of Digital photography.
Of course, you have to factor in the cost of the computer, storage, monitor, software, and calibration equipment. I think digital is still cheaper than film, but far from "free". Someday I might figure it all out... maybe. Rick On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:02 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > You know it's funny, I hadn't thought about this in a long time, but: It was > always touted that you paid more for a modern digital camera than an > equivalent film camera, up front, and saved on the cost of processing the > film over time. It just occurred to me that I spent more in both nominal and > inflation adjusted terms on my last purchased Pentax LX during the film era, > than I did for my K-5II, true I bought both used, but still price per frame > shot is much lower with the K-5II in fact it's essentially free, almost > literally. > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The economics of Digital photography.
On 21/09/2015 7:11 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: All that's assuming that you don't already own, or want to own a computer. All well and good, but I wouldn't have an 8 core CPU and 32gigs of RAM were it not for digital photography. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The economics of Digital photography.
You know it's funny, I hadn't thought about this in a long time, but: It was always touted that you paid more for a modern digital camera than an equivalent film camera, up front, and saved on the cost of processing the film over time. It just occurred to me that I spent more in both nominal and inflation adjusted terms on my last purchased Pentax LX during the film era, than I did for my K-5II, true I bought both used, but still price per frame shot is much lower with the K-5II in fact it's essentially free, almost literally. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The economics of Digital photography.
P.J. Alling wrote: > You know it's funny, I hadn't thought about this in a long time, but: > It was always touted that you paid more for a modern digital camera > than an equivalent film camera, up front, and saved on the cost of > processing the film over time. It just occurred to me that I spent > more in both nominal and inflation adjusted terms on my last purchased > Pentax LX during the film era, than I did for my K-5II, true I bought > both used, but still price per frame shot is much lower with the K-5II > in fact it's essentially free, almost literally. More practical today as well, but having used an LX recently, not as much fun. You can't have everything. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.