Re: The suspense is over...
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 5:31 PM Subject: Re: The suspense is over... > On Sunday, November 18, 2001, at 03:53 PM, Isaac Crawford wrote: > > > Funny, we've had it for a couple of months... > > How big? Maybe my order wasn't being shipped because of the sizes...or > maybe they've delayed the Canadian rollout. Don't really know as I wasn't paying close attention until recently. > > Anyhow, the ultimate point is that quick dry = good, not quick dry = bad. Agreed. Isaac > > -Aaron > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 2:45 PM Subject: Re: The suspense is over... > On Sunday, November 18, 2001, at 01:26 PM, Isaac Crawford wrote: > > > I got it at our wholesale price, which I'm sure would be the same as > > yours! > > Yep, I was just trying to figure out what it was selling for at the > retail level. I've set a price, but I don't want to be overly expensive > or overly cheap, y'know? :) > > Unless those guys tried Ilford's materials in the last few weeks, it's > very doubtful that they tried the new stuff. It really ~is~ new. In > fact, in Canada we haven't seen the glossy material yet, other than > sales samples. Funny, we've had it for a couple of months... Isaac > > -Aaron > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
On Sunday, November 18, 2001, at 11:38 AM, Isaac Crawford wrote: > How does one calculate output resolution? I've seen the dialouge on > photodeluxe where you just type it in, but I don't see that on > photoshop 6.0 > (I'm all new to doing this myself...). So far I've done all of my work > and > then resized it to fit the media, but I don't see an actual figure for > what > I'm sending to the printer other than file size... I think that the requirement on the Ilford packaging is for printer settings -- the current Epsons can be set to print faster and use less ink by printing at 720dpi or 360dpi instead of 1440dpi. The tradeoffs are blending and overall print quality. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
On Sunday, November 18, 2001, at 01:26 PM, Isaac Crawford wrote: > I got it at our wholesale price, which I'm sure would be the same as > yours! Yep, I was just trying to figure out what it was selling for at the retail level. I've set a price, but I don't want to be overly expensive or overly cheap, y'know? :) Unless those guys tried Ilford's materials in the last few weeks, it's very doubtful that they tried the new stuff. It really ~is~ new. In fact, in Canada we haven't seen the glossy material yet, other than sales samples. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
"Isaac Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >William Robb wrote: > >> Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> > Your digital file *Output Resolution* is measured in PPI >> > (pixels per inch). This is the value that you *can* set in >> > Photoshop or whatever software you're using. >> > If you're getting an 8 x 10 from a 15 megabyte file then >> > you're outputting at less than 300 ppi. >> > >> > A 15 megabyte TIFF, output at 300 ppi, will yield a 6 x 9 >> > (approx) print. At 720 ppi it will yield a 2.5 x 4 (approx) print. >> >> I have been doing my 8x10s at 360dpi on the new Epson. This is >> working out to about a 29MB filesize. > >How does one calculate output resolution? I've seen the dialouge on >photodeluxe where you just type it in, but I don't see that on photoshop 6.0 >(I'm all new to doing this myself...). So far I've done all of my work and >then resized it to fit the media, but I don't see an actual figure for what >I'm sending to the printer other than file size... I'm using Photoshop 5.5. (Hope 6.0 is close otherwise this information won't help much...) First of all, I find everything much easier if I select "Pixels" for my units of measurement. (FILE -> PREFERENCES) >From the IMAGE menu, select IMAGE SIZE. In the dialog box that pops up there's a top section (Pixel Dimensions) with boxes for Height and Width (in pixels if that's what you set as I noted above, otherwise you can select pixels for units). The middle section of the dialog box (Print Size) has print height and width (this is where you're concerned with size in inches) and resolution (in pixels per inch). This resolution box is where you set output resolution. The lowest section of the dialog box has 2 check boxes: "Constrain Proportions" and "Resample Image" with a choice of options next to the "Resample Image" box. To change print size WITHOUT altering your file size, you mush have the "Resample Image" box UNCHECKED. When you change the number in the RESOLUTION box, the physical size of your output (print) will change, but the size of the image in pixels (and megabytes) won't. If the "Resample Image" box IS checked, changing the RESOLUTION number will keep the *print* size the same while altering the pixel dimensions of your file (and subsequently changing the file size as well). This box hould be checked if you're resizing the height and width in pixels (for web use, for example). -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:38:53 -0500, Isaac Crawford wrote: > >How does one calculate output resolution? I've seen the dialouge on >photodeluxe where you just type it in, but I don't see that on photoshop 6.0 >(I'm all new to doing this myself...). So far I've done all of my work and >then resized it to fit the media, but I don't see an actual figure for what >I'm sending to the printer other than file size... It is listed in the same dialog where you specify the new print size. Regards, JvW - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 11:41 AM Subject: Re: The suspense is over... > > Our first roll of the new quick-dry pearl stuff finally arrived. I > agree -- it's gorgeous, probably the best I've tried so far. > > Those guys had probably tried Ilford's last foray into inkjet, and it > DID stink. The ink pooled, and the detail sucked. This stuff, on the > other hand, is awesome. You can tell them apart at the retail level by > the "quick dry" label. It's a pity that they screwed up the first time. The guys at the store swore that they used the new stuff, but I think that they are falling into the old, "It's the same crap relabled" cynicism people tend to fall into when you work in retail long enough... > > What printer are you using, Isaac? I'm using an Epson 7500 here at > work. I'm looking for positive recommends for other printers so I can > sell the stuff to my customers without worrying that they're gonna come > back and want to kill me. :) I'm using an Epson 870, I'm sure that the new printers would do just as well. > > The glossy stuff hasn't arrived yet, but I have high hopes based on my > experience with the pearl. > > Also, if you don't mind me being nosy, what did you pay for the stuff? I got it at our wholesale price, which I'm sure would be the same as yours! Isaac > > -Aaron > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
In Ps6 click "Image-Image Size" and you will see the box named "Resolution:" Maris - Original Message - From: "Isaac Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 10:38 AM Subject: Re: The suspense is over... | - Original Message - | From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 9:45 AM | Subject: Re: The suspense is over... | | | > - Original Message ----- | > From: "Mark Roberts" | > Subject: Re: The suspense is over... | > | > | > | > > Your digital file *Output Resolution* is measured in PPI | > (pixels per inch). This | > > is the value that you *can* set in Photoshop or whatever | > software you're using. | > > If you're getting an 8 x 10 from a 15 megabyte file then | > you're outputting at | > > less than 300 ppi. | > > | > > A 15 megabyte TIFF, output at 300 ppi, will yield a 6 x 9 | > (approx) print. | > > At 720 ppi it will yield a 2.5 x 4 (approx) print. | > | > I have been doing my 8x10s at 360dpi on the new Epson. This is | > working out to about a 29MB filesize. | > William Robb | > - | | How does one calculate output resolution? I've seen the dialouge on | photodeluxe where you just type it in, but I don't see that on photoshop 6.0 | (I'm all new to doing this myself...). So far I've done all of my work and | then resized it to fit the media, but I don't see an actual figure for what | I'm sending to the printer other than file size... | | Isaac | > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
on 11/18/01 8:45 AM, William Robb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Roberts" > Subject: Re: The suspense is over... > > > >> Your digital file *Output Resolution* is measured in PPI > (pixels per inch). This >> is the value that you *can* set in Photoshop or whatever > > I have been doing my 8x10s at 360dpi on the new Epson. This is > working out to about a 29MB filesize. > William Robb > - I have been using an 870 for about a year and ,depending on different factors, set my output to 240 to 360 ppi in Photoshop and 720 or 1440 for the printer driver. One of the biggest factors is the paper used as some require more or less ink than others. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: The suspense is over... > Your digital file *Output Resolution* is measured in PPI (pixels per inch). This > is the value that you *can* set in Photoshop or whatever software you're using. > If you're getting an 8 x 10 from a 15 megabyte file then you're outputting at > less than 300 ppi. > > A 15 megabyte TIFF, output at 300 ppi, will yield a 6 x 9 (approx) print. > At 720 ppi it will yield a 2.5 x 4 (approx) print. I have been doing my 8x10s at 360dpi on the new Epson. This is working out to about a 29MB filesize. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
"Isaac Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm using an 870, the 1270's little brother. I'm trying to figure out >how people are getting bad results. How did it suck? I have a feeling that >people are following the "conventional wisdom" and outputting only 300dpi or >so. Ilford states that their papers needs "start at 720 dpi". I haven't put >anything less than a 15 meg file to the printer, and those are for 8x10s! I >haven't worked out the dpi yet, but I'm sure that I'm well above the 300 and >even the 720 that has been recommended... DPI (dots per inch) refers to the resolution of your *printer*. You can't change it because it's fixed in the hardware. They're saying that you shouldn't use a printer with less than 720 dpi resolution. Your digital file *Output Resolution* is measured in PPI (pixels per inch). This is the value that you *can* set in Photoshop or whatever software you're using. If you're getting an 8 x 10 from a 15 megabyte file then you're outputting at less than 300 ppi. A 15 megabyte TIFF, output at 300 ppi, will yield a 6 x 9 (approx) print. At 720 ppi it will yield a 2.5 x 4 (approx) print. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:07 PM Subject: RE: The suspense is over... > how much do they cost? > Hmmm... I get the "company" rate since I work there, so I don't really know off the top of my head. Check out http://www.penncamera.com/shop.cfm for our latest prices... Isaac > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Isaac Crawford > > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:00 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: The suspense is over... > > > > > > Ilford inkjet papers are amazing! I just printed up some scans on both > > the perl and "smooth gloss" papers and I am amazed. The guys I work with > > warned me that the Ilford papers suck, that you can't get detail, the ink > > pools, etc... This just proves what I've thought all along, if they were > > great printers and photoshop users, they'd work somewhere else...:-) I've > > been very impressed so far, no more color darkroom work for me! > > > > Isaac - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
I'm using an 870, the 1270's little brother. I'm trying to figure out how people are getting bad results. How did it suck? I have a feeling that people are following the "conventional wisdom" and outputting only 300dpi or so. Ilford states that their papers needs "start at 720 dpi". I haven't put anything less than a 15 meg file to the printer, and those are for 8x10s! I haven't worked out the dpi yet, but I'm sure that I'm well above the 300 and even the 720 that has been recommended... Isaac - Original Message - From: Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:21 PM Subject: Re: The suspense is over... > What printer are you using? I tried Ilford once on my Epson 1270 and it did > suck. > > Bill, KG4LOV > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Original Message - > From: "Isaac Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:00 PM > Subject: The suspense is over... > > > > Ilford inkjet papers are amazing! I just printed up some scans on both > > the perl and "smooth gloss" papers and I am amazed. The guys I work with > > warned me that the Ilford papers suck, that you can't get detail, the ink > > pools, etc... This just proves what I've thought all along, if they were > > great printers and photoshop users, they'd work somewhere else...:-) I've > > been very impressed so far, no more color darkroom work for me! > > > > Isaac > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
