Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-09 Thread Cory Waters
This is so far the most disappointing news about the new camera.   I 
almost always have the grip with me.  I may or may not have a bag where 
I am and the chances that I have the bag with the bloody remote in it 
are very slim indeed.  Pants pockets?  You must be joking.  First 
thought was how well the little remotes fare in the wash.  I'll have to 
find a strap with a pocket, I guess.


CW


Ken Waller wrote:

I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote.


Thats why my pants have pockets.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?



On Jul 8, 2009, at 07:51 , paul stenquist wrote:


I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote.


Isn't that what Cesar is for, or does he just do gates now.:-0

Dave




I use it when I shoot
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forget it

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-09 Thread Doug Franklin

Cory Waters wrote:
This is so far the most disappointing news about the new camera.   I 
almost always have the grip with me.  I may or may not have a bag where 
I am and the chances that I have the bag with the bloody remote in it 
are very slim indeed.  Pants pockets?  You must be joking.  First 
thought was how well the little remotes fare in the wash.  I'll have to 
find a strap with a pocket, I guess.


It's really not that hard to make a pouch to attach to your strap.  It 
can be as simple as a couple of pull ties and an old film canister.


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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-09 Thread David Savage
2009/7/9 Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com:
 Cory Waters wrote:

 This is so far the most disappointing news about the new camera.   I
 almost always have the grip with me.  I may or may not have a bag where I am
 and the chances that I have the bag with the bloody remote in it are very
 slim indeed.  Pants pockets?  You must be joking.  First thought was how
 well the little remotes fare in the wash.  I'll have to find a strap with a
 pocket, I guess.

Cory, replace the supplied strap with something like the Lowepro
Voyager S. It has a Velcro pocked for card storage.

It's also much more comfortable, and has quick release buckles for
when you don't want the strap attached.

I bought one for a friends birthday earlier this year  on seeing it
liked it enough that I got one for myself.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-09 Thread paul stenquist

Okay, that will work for me, since it has release buckles. Thanks Dave.
Paul

On Jul 9, 2009, at 8:27 AM, David Savage wrote:


2009/7/9 Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com:

Cory Waters wrote:


This is so far the most disappointing news about the new camera.   I
almost always have the grip with me.  I may or may not have a bag  
where I am
and the chances that I have the bag with the bloody remote in it  
are very
slim indeed.  Pants pockets?  You must be joking.  First thought  
was how
well the little remotes fare in the wash.  I'll have to find a  
strap with a

pocket, I guess.


Cory, replace the supplied strap with something like the Lowepro
Voyager S. It has a Velcro pocked for card storage.

It's also much more comfortable, and has quick release buckles for
when you don't want the strap attached.

I bought one for a friends birthday earlier this year  on seeing it
liked it enough that I got one for myself.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-09 Thread Sasha Sobol
Btw, talking about straps - the one I found most comfortable is black
rapid r-strap.
And it has pocket (though I never used it).

--Sasha

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:48 AM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Okay, that will work for me, since it has release buckles. Thanks Dave.
 Paul

 On Jul 9, 2009, at 8:27 AM, David Savage wrote:

 2009/7/9 Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com:

 Cory Waters wrote:

 This is so far the most disappointing news about the new camera.   I
 almost always have the grip with me.  I may or may not have a bag where
 I am
 and the chances that I have the bag with the bloody remote in it are
 very
 slim indeed.  Pants pockets?  You must be joking.  First thought was how
 well the little remotes fare in the wash.  I'll have to find a strap
 with a
 pocket, I guess.

 Cory, replace the supplied strap with something like the Lowepro
 Voyager S. It has a Velcro pocked for card storage.

 It's also much more comfortable, and has quick release buckles for
 when you don't want the strap attached.

 I bought one for a friends birthday earlier this year  on seeing it
 liked it enough that I got one for myself.

 Cheers,

 Dave

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
Good info!  I have to remove and put back the strap depending on my
usage.  The Pentax one is clumsy to do this with.  I'll be looking up
the one you describe.

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Thursday, July 9, 2009, 5:27:47 AM, you wrote:
DS Cory, replace the supplied strap with something like the Lowepro
DS Voyager S. It has a Velcro pocked for card storage.

DS It's also much more comfortable, and has quick release buckles for
DS when you don't want the strap attached.

DS I bought one for a friends birthday earlier this year  on seeing it
DS liked it enough that I got one for myself.

DS Cheers,

DS Dave





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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread Igor Roshchin

I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries
can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs.
... or was it an option if you get the grip?

Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question?

Igor

Tue Jul 7 21:24:45 CDT 2009
paul stenquist wrote:

 I'm annoyed that no aftermarket batteries seem to be available for the  
 K8. I want at least four batteries, and I don't want to pay Pentax  
 prices for an item that should be generic.

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph McAllister
The camera takes a dedicated battery. The grip has two inserts, one  
for the dedicated battery, one for 6 AA cells.



On Jul 7, 2009, at 23:36 , Igor Roshchin wrote:



I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries
can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs.
... or was it an option if you get the grip?

Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question?

Igor


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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread Graydon
On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 10:24:45PM -0400, paul stenquist scripsit:
 I'm annoyed that no aftermarket batteries seem to be available for the  
 K8. I want at least four batteries, and I don't want to pay Pentax  
 prices for an item that should be generic.

It's not a generic item, though; the energy density figures for the K-7
battery are state of the art.  The necessary QA and manufacturing
precision are going to put it in the same class as high-end Li+ laptop
batteries (=get this wrong, watch the nasty chemical fire devour the
device).

The good side is you get 1600+ shots/battery; the downside is that the
battery is expensive.  And since the volume on K-7s will be relatively
low, so is the incentive to produce a generic version of this specific
high end battery.

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Igor Roshchin

Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?




I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries
can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs.
... or was it an option if you get the grip?

Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question?



Hi Igor;
The manual for the grip specifies the rechargable lithium-ion battery 
D-LI90,  or 6 AA lithium/NiMH/alkaline batteries.
No mention is made of NiCads, so I would stay away from those battery types. 
Also, the battery tray will not hold a CR-V3 battery.
The tray for the lithium-ion battery will hold a spare SD card, the AA tray 
will not.

Neither tray will hold the small remote control.

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread paul stenquist
I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote. I use it when I  
shoot VR panoramas for real estate, and since it's in the tray, I  
can't forget it or lose it. It's too small not to have a home!

Paul
On Jul 8, 2009, at 10:42 AM, William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin
Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?




I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA  
batteries

can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs.
... or was it an option if you get the grip?

Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this  
question?




Hi Igor;
The manual for the grip specifies the rechargable lithium-ion  
battery D-LI90,  or 6 AA lithium/NiMH/alkaline batteries.
No mention is made of NiCads, so I would stay away from those  
battery types. Also, the battery tray will not hold a CR-V3 battery.
The tray for the lithium-ion battery will hold a spare SD card, the  
AA tray will not.

Neither tray will hold the small remote control.

William Robb

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread P. J. Alling
You need the, (not yet available in the US apparently), grip to use AA 
batteries.


Igor Roshchin wrote:

I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries
can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs.
... or was it an option if you get the grip?

Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question?

Igor

Tue Jul 7 21:24:45 CDT 2009
paul stenquist wrote:

  
I'm annoyed that no aftermarket batteries seem to be available for the  
K8. I want at least four batteries, and I don't want to pay Pentax  
prices for an item that should be generic.



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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: paul stenquist

Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?


I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote. I use it when I  shoot 
VR panoramas for real estate, and since it's in the tray, I  can't forget 
it or lose it. It's too small not to have a home!


Honestly, I would rather lose the spare card slot and keep the remote slot. 
I'm generally shooting with 16gb cards, so my need for a spare card in the 
camera is quite rare. OTOH, when I want a remote control, the wired one 
never seems to be where it is supposed to be.


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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling 
Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?



You need the, (not yet available in the US apparently), grip to use AA 
batteries.


Correct. The camera body will only use the dedicated battery.

William Robb

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread P. J. Alling
You'll just have to scour the internet for MZ/ZX style neck straps, I 
believe the small remote will fit in the little pockets...


paul stenquist wrote:
I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote. I use it when I 
shoot VR panoramas for real estate, and since it's in the tray, I 
can't forget it or lose it. It's too small not to have a home!

Paul
On Jul 8, 2009, at 10:42 AM, William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin
Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?




I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries
can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs.
... or was it an option if you get the grip?

Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question?



Hi Igor;
The manual for the grip specifies the rechargable lithium-ion battery 
D-LI90,  or 6 AA lithium/NiMH/alkaline batteries.
No mention is made of NiCads, so I would stay away from those battery 
types. Also, the battery tray will not hold a CR-V3 battery.
The tray for the lithium-ion battery will hold a spare SD card, the 
AA tray will not.

Neither tray will hold the small remote control.

William Robb

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RE: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread Desjardins, Steve
Paul would have us think this is a typo, but he secretly has the prototype K8 
with telepathic AF.  The batteries are in short supply because the LHC is still 
behind schedule and not making antimatter.


I'm annoyed that no aftermarket batteries seem to be available for the  
K8. I want at least four batteries, and I don't want to pay Pentax  
prices for an item that should be generic.
Paul

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread paul stenquist
That won't work for me. I use the Tamrac neck straps that unclip. I  
have to remove the strap when I put the camera on the panorama head,  
otherwise it gets caught on the tripod during rotation.

Paul
On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:45 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

You'll just have to scour the internet for MZ/ZX style neck straps,  
I believe the small remote will fit in the little pockets...


paul stenquist wrote:
I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote. I use it when I  
shoot VR panoramas for real estate, and since it's in the tray, I  
can't forget it or lose it. It's too small not to have a home!

Paul
On Jul 8, 2009, at 10:42 AM, William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin
Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?




I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA  
batteries

can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs.
... or was it an option if you get the grip?

Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this  
question?




Hi Igor;
The manual for the grip specifies the rechargable lithium-ion  
battery D-LI90,  or 6 AA lithium/NiMH/alkaline batteries.
No mention is made of NiCads, so I would stay away from those  
battery types. Also, the battery tray will not hold a CR-V3 battery.
The tray for the lithium-ion battery will hold a spare SD card,  
the AA tray will not.

Neither tray will hold the small remote control.

William Robb

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
I googled D-LI90 battery and ended up at Eastmaze where I ordered a
back-up battery.
It may be crap, I'll let you know.
Regards, Bob S.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:55 AM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 You need the, (not yet available in the US apparently), grip to use AA
 batteries.

 Igor Roshchin wrote:

 I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries
 can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs.
 ... or was it an option if you get the grip?

 Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question?

 Igor

 Tue Jul 7 21:24:45 CDT 2009
 paul stenquist wrote:



 I'm annoyed that no aftermarket batteries seem to be available for the
  K8. I want at least four batteries, and I don't want to pay Pentax  prices
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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 11:56:33AM -0400, paul stenquist scripsit:
 That won't work for me. I use the Tamrac neck straps that unclip. I have 
 to remove the strap when I put the camera on the panorama head,  
 otherwise it gets caught on the tripod during rotation.

Keep the thing in your hatband?

I use a Thinktank bag that has a small transparent pocket in the top
flap; the remote, the cable release, and the big flat screwdriver live
in it.  This has been working so far.

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph McAllister
Make a pocket for it on the camera strap, or put it in a film cassette  
and tape to your strap.


On Jul 8, 2009, at 07:51 , paul stenquist wrote:

I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote. I use it when I  
shoot VR panoramas for real estate, and since it's in the tray, I  
can't forget it or lose it. It's too small not to have a home!


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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph McAllister

Don't leave the strap at home, Paul !Unclip it at the site!



On Jul 8, 2009, at 08:56 , paul stenquist wrote:

That won't work for me. I use the Tamrac neck straps that unclip. I  
have to remove the strap when I put the camera on the panorama head,  
otherwise it gets caught on the tripod during rotation.

Paul


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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread David J Brooks
 On Jul 8, 2009, at 07:51 , paul stenquist wrote:

 I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote.

Isn't that what Cesar is for, or does he just do gates now.:-0

Dave




I use it when I shoot
 VR panoramas for real estate, and since it's in the tray, I can't forget it
 or lose it. It's too small not to have a home!

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread Ken Waller

I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote.


Thats why my pants have pockets.

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From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?



On Jul 8, 2009, at 07:51 , paul stenquist wrote:


I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote.


Isn't that what Cesar is for, or does he just do gates now.:-0

Dave




I use it when I shoot
VR panoramas for real estate, and since it's in the tray, I can't forget 
it

or lose it. It's too small not to have a home!


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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-08 Thread Doug Franklin

paul stenquist wrote:
That won't work for me. I use the Tamrac neck straps that unclip. I have 
to remove the strap when I put the camera on the panorama head, 
otherwise it gets caught on the tripod during rotation.


One of the better known bag and strap manufacturers, might even be 
Tamrac, have something called the MAS - Modular Attachment System, IIRC. 
 It includes some small pouches to attach to the strap to store things 
like the little remote and memory cards and stuff like that.  Something 
like that might give you the storage you want on the strap you want.


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What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-07 Thread Cory Waters
Amazon and BH don't seem to have a listing for the battery/vertical 
release grip or one for the whole camera with the kit lens.  I expect if 
I was to buy the camera right now, I'd want the  grip with it so there's 
no extra couple hundred dollars to spend later (unapproved, ya know?).   
Also, I'm going to need to sell the K10,  it'll probably be easier to 
sell with the kit lens, and don't I want the new one anyway?


So what gives?
CW

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-07 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Cory Waters 
Subject: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?



Amazon and BH don't seem to have a listing for the battery/vertical 
release grip or one for the whole camera with the kit lens.  I expect if 
I was to buy the camera right now, I'd want the  grip with it so there's 
no extra couple hundred dollars to spend later (unapproved, ya know?).   
Also, I'm going to need to sell the K10,  it'll probably be easier to 
sell with the kit lens, and don't I want the new one anyway?


So what gives?


Mine came with the grip.
It's very nice.

William Robb

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Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?

2009-07-07 Thread paul stenquist
Yeah, BH doesn't have the grip yet, but I ordered the camera anyway.  
I'll get the grip when it shows up. Hopefully soon.


I don't think the kit lens is a plus. You can sell the K10D without  
it. After one day of a seven day auction I already have a $300 bid on  
my K10 and 22 watchers.


I'm annoyed that no aftermarket batteries seem to be available for the  
K8. I want at least four batteries, and I don't want to pay Pentax  
prices for an item that should be generic.

Paul
On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:17 PM, William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: Cory Waters Subject: What's up  
with the K7 grip/kit?



Amazon and BH don't seem to have a listing for the battery/ 
vertical release grip or one for the whole camera with the kit  
lens.  I expect if I was to buy the camera right now, I'd want the   
grip with it so there's no extra couple hundred dollars to spend  
later (unapproved, ya know?).   Also, I'm going to need to sell the  
K10,  it'll probably be easier to sell with the kit lens, and don't  
I want the new one anyway?

So what gives?


Mine came with the grip.
It's very nice.

William Robb

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