Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-21 Thread J.C. O'Connell

On 9/20/2013 1:53 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Unfortunately they no longer qualify as modern.

On 9/10/2013 8:32 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

On 9/10/2013 8:17 AM, CollinB wrote:

I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
impressive.
Just out of my price range at the moment.
But I wonder ... what's your favorite?



the two best pentax zooms I have are the 35-105f3.5 A and the 24-50f4 A





thankfully they arent

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What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax brand Zoom

2013-09-21 Thread Bipin Gupta
I mostly use the Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 EX DC and the Pentax DA 18-135
f3.5- 5.6 WR. Both my lenses are excellent copies and tack sharp.
Note: I get a combined seamless focal length from 10 to 135 mm (15 to
200 mm in APS-C term), covering my genre of Street, Travel,
Architecture and Landscape Photography - 85% in of the time - 50/50
ratio.
For that balance 15% low light situation shoots, I use the brutally
sharp Tamron 28-75 f2.8 lens.
And for that odd sports, wildlife, naval or air show shoot, I use the
Sigma 70-300 DL Macro I purchased for a song from KEH - an excellent 
sharp copy.
Happy that I have covered all my bases including inclement weather
shoots for cheap.
Regards.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land

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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-20 Thread P.J. Alling

Unfortunately they no longer qualify as modern.

On 9/10/2013 8:32 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

On 9/10/2013 8:17 AM, CollinB wrote:

I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
impressive.
Just out of my price range at the moment.
But I wonder ... what's your favorite?



the two best pentax zooms I have are the 35-105f3.5 A and the 24-50f4 A




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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-20 Thread Larry Colen
Best for what?

The two zooms I regularly use are my 18-250 and my 16-50. 

If I need versatility with decent quality, it is very difficult to beat
the 18-250.  It's not the sharpest or fastest zoom, but it's sharp and
fast enough for most things, and when you need it, the range is very handy.

My 16-50 is weather sealed, reasonably fast, and pretty sharp. I find
myself using it a lot more often than I expected when I got it.

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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-20 Thread P.J. Alling
I'm not sure that I should answer this, as I don't own a modern, i.e. a 
Pentax zoom that's actually being manufactured now.  Nor do I own any 
Pentax Digital zooms, but for what it is you cannot beat the FA 20-35mm 
f4.0.  Sharp, decent quality build, even though it's mostly plastic, it 
has a limitied zoom range, (ultra wide to wide on 35mm format, wide to 
normal on APS-C digital).  Very few imaging defects.  It's just a 
great little lens that even if I owned a more versicle zoom say the 
16-50 f2.0 or 17-70 f4.0, one of which is on my short list, just not 
sure which, would still find it's way into my medium bag, maybe even 
into my small bag.


On 9/10/2013 8:17 AM, CollinB wrote:

I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
impressive.
Just out of my price range at the moment.
But I wonder ... what's your favorite?





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Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread CollinB
I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
impressive.
Just out of my price range at the moment.
But I wonder ... what's your favorite?


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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread J.C. O'Connell

On 9/10/2013 8:17 AM, CollinB wrote:

I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
impressive.
Just out of my price range at the moment.
But I wonder ... what's your favorite?



the two best pentax zooms I have are the 35-105f3.5 A and the 24-50f4 A

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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread J.C. O'Connell

On 9/10/2013 8:32 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

On 9/10/2013 8:17 AM, CollinB wrote:

I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
impressive.
Just out of my price range at the moment.
But I wonder ... what's your favorite?



the two best pentax zooms I have are the 35-105f3.5 A and the 24-50f4 A


I forgot, the 70-210f4 A is pretty much fantastic too.

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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread Stan Halpin
All good. I have maybe a slight preference ordering:
 - 50-135
 - 16-50
 - 60-250
but they all feel good, work well, and the 16-50, plus either of the others 
depending on the venues you shoot in, is about all the lens anybody really 
needs.

stan

On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:17 AM, CollinB wrote:

 I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
 impressive.
 Just out of my price range at the moment.
 But I wonder ... what's your favorite?
 
 
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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread Attila Boros
+1 for the 16-50, can't comment on the others.

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 All good. I have maybe a slight preference ordering:
  - 50-135
  - 16-50
  - 60-250
 but they all feel good, work well, and the 16-50, plus either of the others 
 depending on the venues you shoot in, is about all the lens anybody really 
 needs.

 stan

 On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:17 AM, CollinB wrote:

 I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
 impressive.
 Just out of my price range at the moment.
 But I wonder ... what's your favorite?


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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have all the DA* zooms. The 60-250/4 is the best of the bunch by a slim 
margin, but they're all quite good. Better than the Pentax primes I own, but I 
must add that I've never owned the best A* and FA* primes.

Paul
On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:17 AM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

 I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
 impressive.
 Just out of my price range at the moment.
 But I wonder ... what's your favorite?
 
 
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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/10/13 8:17 AM, CollinB wrote:

I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
impressive.
Just out of my price range at the moment.
But I wonder ... what's your favorite?




12-24/4

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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread Jack Davis
From time to time I take a few shots with the DA* 50~135 F/2.8 just to keep 
the AF limber and, once again, experience it's stunning clarity and contrast. 
Love it!!
 
Jack


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Subject: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
impressive.
Just out of my price range at the moment.
But I wonder ... what's your favorite?


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Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread Bipin Gupta
I find most of you are quoting the obvious expensive (*) Zoom Lenses.
Someone also mentioned out of my price range, so hope you folks get
the message. Not being a Pro, we tend to avoid the obvious great 
expensive  (*) lenses - DA 16-50 f2.8, DA 50-135 f2.8, DA 60-250
f2.8. And what a let down on the SDM.
A very useful focal length range and sharp lens is the SMC FA 20-35mm
f4 AL. At 245 grams very light  compact too. The SMC F 24-50 f4 at
just 380 grams is a stellar performer. Tack sharp too.
Though I prefer full frame FA zooms as these are just as modern, the $
400 or lesser DA 18-135 f3.5-5.6 WR is a great all rounder. At 420
grams it is pretty compact too. My copy is tack sharp and you can see
the pores in the skin when blown up 100%. Some early copies were much
maligned though.
Regards.

Note: to counter the DA 16-50 f2.8 I bought the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 
the 28-75 f2.8. Just as good - no SDM and WR.

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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread Jack Davis
I was going for the best as price wasn't mentioned as a consideration. I 
think we understand that it's all relative. I've often been extremely pleased 
with lens performance and coveted the lens, only to be genuinely surprised by 
seeing the product of something strikingly better.

Jack


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From: Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com
To: pdml@pdml.net
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Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:18 AM
Subject: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

I find most of you are quoting the obvious expensive (*) Zoom Lenses.
Someone also mentioned out of my price range, so hope you folks get
the message. Not being a Pro, we tend to avoid the obvious great 
expensive  (*) lenses - DA 16-50 f2.8, DA 50-135 f2.8, DA 60-250
f2.8. And what a let down on the SDM.
A very useful focal length range and sharp lens is the SMC FA 20-35mm
f4 AL. At 245 grams very light  compact too. The SMC F 24-50 f4 at
just 380 grams is a stellar performer. Tack sharp too.
Though I prefer full frame FA zooms as these are just as modern, the $
400 or lesser DA 18-135 f3.5-5.6 WR is a great all rounder. At 420
grams it is pretty compact too. My copy is tack sharp and you can see
the pores in the skin when blown up 100%. Some early copies were much
maligned though.
Regards.

Note: to counter the DA 16-50 f2.8 I bought the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 
the 28-75 f2.8. Just as good - no SDM and WR.

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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread mike wilson
FA*24-70/2.8  (counts as modern in my book)

On 10/09/2013, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
 I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
 impressive.
 Just out of my price range at the moment.
 But I wonder ... what's your favorite?


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Re: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread kwaller

Depends on what you mean by modern.

I've had 2 'F' zooms in fairly heavy use since 1989 - a 28-80 f3.5-4.5 
received very heavy usage thru 2006 as it was my primarily used lens on the 
job and shot thousands of evidence photos with it (it has a built in macro 
range that was great for my work. And a 70-210 f4-5.6 which has served me 
admireably also since 1989. I admit the built of the 70-210 is not the most 
robust. And while you could spend more money on newer 'better' lenses, I've 
never seen enough diference to warrant the change.


I have a 16-50 f2.8 DA* which I got after not being able to get a 28-70 f2.8 
FA*, and other than the faster aperature I wind up using the 28-80 more 
often than not due to it more convenient size and weight.


YMMV

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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Subject: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom



I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
impressive.
Just out of my price range at the moment.
But I wonder ... what's your favorite?



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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
60-250/4 is my only new zoom, and outstanding!  Bob S.

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:17 AM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
 I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
 impressive.
 Just out of my price range at the moment.
 But I wonder ... what's your favorite?


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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread Alan C
I agree that there are still good options for those who can't afford the 
limited  * ranges. My SMC FA 100-300 isn't too shabby - the original 
black one, not the plastic white one.


Alan

-Original Message- 
From: Bipin Gupta

Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:18 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

I find most of you are quoting the obvious expensive (*) Zoom Lenses.
Someone also mentioned out of my price range, so hope you folks get
the message. Not being a Pro, we tend to avoid the obvious great 
expensive  (*) lenses - DA 16-50 f2.8, DA 50-135 f2.8, DA 60-250
f2.8. And what a let down on the SDM.
A very useful focal length range and sharp lens is the SMC FA 20-35mm
f4 AL. At 245 grams very light  compact too. The SMC F 24-50 f4 at
just 380 grams is a stellar performer. Tack sharp too.
Though I prefer full frame FA zooms as these are just as modern, the $
400 or lesser DA 18-135 f3.5-5.6 WR is a great all rounder. At 420
grams it is pretty compact too. My copy is tack sharp and you can see
the pores in the skin when blown up 100%. Some early copies were much
maligned though.
Regards.

Note: to counter the DA 16-50 f2.8 I bought the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 
the 28-75 f2.8. Just as good - no SDM and WR.

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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-10 Thread Philip Northeast
I tend to use mainly primes but my DA* 50-135 is my preferred lens for 
portraits- lovely rendition of skin tones


Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 10/09/13 10:17 PM, CollinB wrote:

I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
impressive.
Just out of my price range at the moment.
But I wonder ... what's your favorite?




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