RE: Why Pentax *ist (35mm) isn´t good?
Part of the reason is because there are only a few people here that actually have one, so most people here have no real first-hand knowledge of it. Most of the opinions here are based on reading what other people say about it and then carrying that lack of knowledge to extremes. I recommend finding a camera store that will allow you to test it yourself. Bring a roll of film with you, load it up, and then put the camera through some tough tests to see how it performs. Len --- -Original Message- From: Jose Luis Gonzalez Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 6:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why Pentax *ist (35mm) isn´t good? I´m new in the forum, and it seems that the new Pentax *ist (35mm) is not a favourite among forum members. Can anybody explain me in a few words why? In other words, may I buy that camera, or the Nikon 75 or even the veteran Canon EOS 300 are better choices? I never had a AF camera (I own a Pentax P30t) so tell me your opinions about the best choice among the three mentioned bodies. Thanks
Re: Why Pentax *ist (35mm) isn´t good?
I´m new in the forum, and it seems that the new Pentax *ist (35mm) is not a favourite among forum members. Can anybody explain me in a few words why? In other words, may I buy that camera, or the Nikon 75 or even the veteran Canon EOS 300 are better choices? I never had a AF camera (I own a Pentax P30t) so tell me your opinions about the best choice among the three mentioned bodies. I don't think the *ist is a bad camera at all, just that most members here don't like the crippled mount which was designed to dump the K/M lenses. But then again, this should not bother any new comers because they are going to buy AF lenses anyway. regards, Alan Chan _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Why Pentax *ist (35mm) isn´t good?
Insufficient. According to Master Rubenstein, you have to check it for at least 6 months. cheers, caveman. Len Paris wrote: Part of the reason is because there are only a few people here that actually have one, so most people here have no real first-hand knowledge of it. Most of the opinions here are based on reading what other people say about it and then carrying that lack of knowledge to extremes. I recommend finding a camera store that will allow you to test it yourself. Bring a roll of film with you, load it up, and then put the camera through some tough tests to see how it performs.
Re: Why Pentax *ist (35mm) isn´t good?
What? Shoot some film? That's heresy on this list! Bill - Original Message - From: Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:30 PM Subject: RE: Why Pentax *ist (35mm) isn´t good? Part of the reason is because there are only a few people here that actually have one, so most people here have no real first-hand knowledge of it. Most of the opinions here are based on reading what other people say about it and then carrying that lack of knowledge to extremes. I recommend finding a camera store that will allow you to test it yourself. Bring a roll of film with you, load it up, and then put the camera through some tough tests to see how it performs. Len --- -Original Message- From: Jose Luis Gonzalez Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 6:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why Pentax *ist (35mm) isn´t good? I´m new in the forum, and it seems that the new Pentax *ist (35mm) is not a favourite among forum members. Can anybody explain me in a few words why? In other words, may I buy that camera, or the Nikon 75 or even the veteran Canon EOS 300 are better choices? I never had a AF camera (I own a Pentax P30t) so tell me your opinions about the best choice among the three mentioned bodies. Thanks
Re: Why Pentax *ist (35mm) isn´t good?
How dare you suggest some of us shoot film with cameras. We haven't got time as spend all are free time arguing about features, lack of features, construction, advertising or what we would like to compare in the future. Now, back to the spec sheets and catalogues Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] What? Shoot some film? That's heresy on this list! Bill
Re: Why Pentax *ist (35mm) isn´t good?
Before I look at the other replies, I want to respond to this. 1. on this list are some very, very experienced photographers who would look down their nose at any entry level camera. 2. the rumor is that the more advanced *ist Digital is going to have the same interface which dismays those who have been waiting years for Pentax to bring out an advanced digital slr. 3. there is a certain element of the if it ain't perfect it is junk attitude here. 4. no one here has any real experience with the camera because it is so new, so you are dealing with speculations from folks who have been disappointed before. Try back in 3 months and there will be a lot of real information on the camera here. 5. we hate the name. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Jose Luis Gonzalez Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:11 PM Subject: Why Pentax *ist (35mm) isn´t good? I´m new in the forum, and it seems that the new Pentax *ist (35mm) is not a favourite among forum members. Can anybody explain me in a few words why? In other words, may I buy that camera, or the Nikon 75 or even the veteran Canon EOS 300 are better choices? I never had a AF camera (I own a Pentax P30t) so tell me your opinions about the best choice among the three mentioned bodies. Thanks
RE: Why Pentax *ist (35mm) isn´t good?
Jose, to a very large extent, I agree with Len's response. While you are correct that the *ist (35mm) is not a favourite among forum members, I'd venture to say that the reason is that most of those voicing negative opinions on the camera would not buy it anyway unless it was on sale on eBay for 20% of the initial retail price. So few people here actually spend money on new Pentax equipment, that it's almost absurd to call this a list of Pentax supporters. So, while your assessment of the opinions may be accurate, as Len suggested, you have to also consider the people who tend to chime in. In addition, as Len alluded to, only about THREE active people (at most?) on this list have ever even used an *ist, and few (if any) have used it extensively enough to have a sound opinion on it already (in terms of usability, ergonomics, etc). Por eso, much of what you've heard has been bickering for the sake of bandwidth consumption. But with that said, one legitimate complaint that PDMLers have voiced (about 14 million times) is the concern of 100% compatibility between the new camera and any older lenses that they may own. Since you own a P30, then I suspect that this may be an issue for you also; but of course that depends specifically on what lenses you plan to use with the new camera. If they are Auto focus lenses (likely, since it's an AF camera you want to buy), then this will not be an issue with you. In my opinion, the *ist offers a lot for the price, and is a Fantastic purchase if it suits your personal needs. From a specifications standpoint, it's hard for me to see why this camera wouldn't be an absolute winner (if Pentax marketed it correctly). Lastly, I again have appeal to Len's response when he wrote: I recommend finding a camera store that will allow you to test it yourself. That is possibly the best advice you will hear from this entire thread. If you can, find someplace with a good reputation and a decent return policy (make sure it is in writing and the terms are clear). Play with the camera for a week (or however long), and by then you will know if it's for you, not to mention if there are compatibility issues with the lenses you intend to use. If it works for you, great. If not, then perhaps come back and ask the list for other suggestions. Of course, you could likely find it cheaper on the internet than at your local store... but consider the mark-up in cost the price you pay for being able to try before you buy. As they say in those Visa commercials, Priceless. _ Jerome D. Coombs-Reyes, PhD Candidate ISyE, Georgia Institute of Technology http://exposedfilm.net
