RE: are all our Aussies ok?

2009-02-11 Thread Bob W
The menu bar is a little bit insensitive right now. It reads: Hot Topics |
... | Bush Fires | What's hot right now | ... | Hotmail


 
 http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/750089/koala-rescued-in-f
 orest-near-mirboo
 
 DS
 


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Re: are all our Aussies ok?

2009-02-11 Thread Joseph McAllister

 Very tender story, Dave.

I hate to think of the thousands more that were not so lucky.


On Feb 10, 2009, at 23:35 , David Savage wrote:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/750089/koala-rescued-in-forest-near-mirboo 



DS

2009/2/11 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:19:04 +0900, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com 


said:
And the news that arsonists are responsible for some of the fires  
that

lead to deaths is enraging a lot of people.




Yeah - unfortunately a large number of summer fires are started by  
these

morons.  And they're almost impossible to catch in the act.

Having said that, dry lightning strikes are responsible for many
outbreaks as well.  I was amazed at how readily this can happen  
when a
lightning strike set a large tree alight in our back paddock a  
couple of

years ago.  The resultant fire took hold incredibly quickly.  Had the
lightning not been followed by heavy rain after about 10 minutes, I
shudder to think what might have happened.



Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/




2009/2/11 Paul li...@fauxfotos.com:

Hi,

I'm in Melbourne and the whole thing still seems a bit surreal at  
this
stage. I was at a family members house on Saturday, it was so  
hot, the air
was thick with smoke and wind was unbelievably strong.  Some of  
the areas
hit are only a 30 minute drive from the central business and are  
pretty much

the outer suburbs of Melbourne.

I can think of the two other PDML members of the past who live in  
Melbourne

and from memory they weren't in any area affected.

Paul

m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:


 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:


I'm in Sydney, which is safe.  The fires near here didn't get  
very bad.
Melbourne's summer climate is much more arid than Sydney's, so  
fires

there
are more frequently close to the flashpoint at which vapourised
eucalyptus
oil in the atmosphere will explode into a fireball.  Sydney's  
blanketing
humidity usually suppresses the combustibility of the  
atmosphere around

the
fire front.


I'm finding the news pics we see here decidedly odd.  You will  
see an
aerial shot of maybe a dozen dwellings, all razed to the  
ground.  Around
them are numerous, perfectly flammable trees that have not,  
apparently, been
touched.  In another shot you will see large areas of woodland  
reduced to

grey ash, with nearby dwellings apparently untouched.




There is a Melbourne pdmler whose been in lurk mode for a good  
while, his
name escapes me, but I think he's a city boy so should be safe  
(I hope so

anyway).

Regards, Anthony




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I'll take our iciness to fire anyday --  hope everyone is safe

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Re: are all our Aussies ok?

2009-02-11 Thread James
I am from the state that has all the flooding up north.
We (I) am rather envious of those with all the rain. 
We need it here in the south east corner of the state as we are still on water 
restrictions.

James



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Re: are all our Aussies ok?

2009-02-10 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:19:04 +0900, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com
said:
 And the news that arsonists are responsible for some of the fires that
 lead to deaths is enraging a lot of people.
 


Yeah - unfortunately a large number of summer fires are started by these
morons.  And they're almost impossible to catch in the act.

Having said that, dry lightning strikes are responsible for many
outbreaks as well.  I was amazed at how readily this can happen when a
lightning strike set a large tree alight in our back paddock a couple of
years ago.  The resultant fire took hold incredibly quickly.  Had the
lightning not been followed by heavy rain after about 10 minutes, I
shudder to think what might have happened.



Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/


 
 2009/2/11 Paul li...@fauxfotos.com:
  Hi,
 
  I'm in Melbourne and the whole thing still seems a bit surreal at this
  stage. I was at a family members house on Saturday, it was so hot, the air
  was thick with smoke and wind was unbelievably strong.  Some of the areas
  hit are only a 30 minute drive from the central business and are pretty much
  the outer suburbs of Melbourne.
 
  I can think of the two other PDML members of the past who live in Melbourne
  and from memory they weren't in any area affected.
 
  Paul
 
  m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
   Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'm in Sydney, which is safe.  The fires near here didn't get very bad.
  Melbourne's summer climate is much more arid than Sydney's, so fires
  there
  are more frequently close to the flashpoint at which vapourised
  eucalyptus
  oil in the atmosphere will explode into a fireball.  Sydney's blanketing
  humidity usually suppresses the combustibility of the atmosphere around
  the
  fire front.
 
  I'm finding the news pics we see here decidedly odd.  You will see an
  aerial shot of maybe a dozen dwellings, all razed to the ground.  Around
  them are numerous, perfectly flammable trees that have not, apparently, 
  been
  touched.  In another shot you will see large areas of woodland reduced to
  grey ash, with nearby dwellings apparently untouched.
 
 
 
  There is a Melbourne pdmler whose been in lurk mode for a good while, his
  name escapes me, but I think he's a city boy so should be safe (I hope so
  anyway).
 
  Regards, Anthony
 
 
 
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  From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 
 
  ann
 
 
  sanfedele
  Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 3:18 PM
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  Subject: are all our Aussies ok?
 
 
  I'll take our iciness to fire anyday --  hope everyone is safe
 
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Re: are all our Aussies ok?

2009-02-10 Thread David Savage
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/750089/koala-rescued-in-forest-near-mirboo

DS

2009/2/11 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm:
 On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:19:04 +0900, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com
 said:
 And the news that arsonists are responsible for some of the fires that
 lead to deaths is enraging a lot of people.



 Yeah - unfortunately a large number of summer fires are started by these
 morons.  And they're almost impossible to catch in the act.

 Having said that, dry lightning strikes are responsible for many
 outbreaks as well.  I was amazed at how readily this can happen when a
 lightning strike set a large tree alight in our back paddock a couple of
 years ago.  The resultant fire took hold incredibly quickly.  Had the
 lightning not been followed by heavy rain after about 10 minutes, I
 shudder to think what might have happened.



 Cheers

 Brian

 ++
 Brian Walters
 Western Sydney Australia
 http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/



 2009/2/11 Paul li...@fauxfotos.com:
  Hi,
 
  I'm in Melbourne and the whole thing still seems a bit surreal at this
  stage. I was at a family members house on Saturday, it was so hot, the air
  was thick with smoke and wind was unbelievably strong.  Some of the areas
  hit are only a 30 minute drive from the central business and are pretty 
  much
  the outer suburbs of Melbourne.
 
  I can think of the two other PDML members of the past who live in Melbourne
  and from memory they weren't in any area affected.
 
  Paul
 
  m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
   Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'm in Sydney, which is safe.  The fires near here didn't get very bad.
  Melbourne's summer climate is much more arid than Sydney's, so fires
  there
  are more frequently close to the flashpoint at which vapourised
  eucalyptus
  oil in the atmosphere will explode into a fireball.  Sydney's blanketing
  humidity usually suppresses the combustibility of the atmosphere around
  the
  fire front.
 
  I'm finding the news pics we see here decidedly odd.  You will see an
  aerial shot of maybe a dozen dwellings, all razed to the ground.  Around
  them are numerous, perfectly flammable trees that have not, apparently, 
  been
  touched.  In another shot you will see large areas of woodland reduced to
  grey ash, with nearby dwellings apparently untouched.
 
 
 
  There is a Melbourne pdmler whose been in lurk mode for a good while, his
  name escapes me, but I think he's a city boy so should be safe (I hope so
  anyway).
 
  Regards, Anthony
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 
 
  ann
 
 
  sanfedele
  Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 3:18 PM
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
  Subject: are all our Aussies ok?
 
 
  I'll take our iciness to fire anyday --  hope everyone is safe
 
  ann
 
 
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Re: are all our Aussies ok?

2009-02-10 Thread Paul

Hi,

I'm in Melbourne and the whole thing still seems a bit surreal at this 
stage. I was at a family members house on Saturday, it was so hot, the 
air was thick with smoke and wind was unbelievably strong.  Some of the 
areas hit are only a 30 minute drive from the central business and are 
pretty much the outer suburbs of Melbourne.


I can think of the two other PDML members of the past who live in 
Melbourne and from memory they weren't in any area affected.


Paul

m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
I'm in Sydney, which is safe.  The fires near here didn't get very bad.  


Melbourne's summer climate is much more arid than Sydney's, so fires there
are more frequently close to the flashpoint at which vapourised eucalyptus
oil in the atmosphere will explode into a fireball.  Sydney's blanketing
humidity usually suppresses the combustibility of the atmosphere around the
fire front. 



I'm finding the news pics we see here decidedly odd.  You will see an aerial 
shot of maybe a dozen dwellings, all razed to the ground.  Around them are 
numerous, perfectly flammable trees that have not, apparently, been touched.  
In another shot you will see large areas of woodland reduced to grey ash, with 
nearby dwellings apparently untouched.

  

There is a Melbourne pdmler whose been in lurk mode for a good while, his
name escapes me, but I think he's a city boy so should be safe (I hope so
anyway).

Regards, Anthony



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Subject: are all our Aussies ok?


I'll take our iciness to fire anyday --  hope everyone is safe

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Re: are all our Aussies ok?

2009-02-10 Thread David Savage
And the news that arsonists are responsible for some of the fires that
lead to deaths is enraging a lot of people.

Dave (the pi55ed)

2009/2/11 Paul li...@fauxfotos.com:
 Hi,

 I'm in Melbourne and the whole thing still seems a bit surreal at this
 stage. I was at a family members house on Saturday, it was so hot, the air
 was thick with smoke and wind was unbelievably strong.  Some of the areas
 hit are only a 30 minute drive from the central business and are pretty much
 the outer suburbs of Melbourne.

 I can think of the two other PDML members of the past who live in Melbourne
 and from memory they weren't in any area affected.

 Paul

 m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

  Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm in Sydney, which is safe.  The fires near here didn't get very bad.
 Melbourne's summer climate is much more arid than Sydney's, so fires
 there
 are more frequently close to the flashpoint at which vapourised
 eucalyptus
 oil in the atmosphere will explode into a fireball.  Sydney's blanketing
 humidity usually suppresses the combustibility of the atmosphere around
 the
 fire front.

 I'm finding the news pics we see here decidedly odd.  You will see an
 aerial shot of maybe a dozen dwellings, all razed to the ground.  Around
 them are numerous, perfectly flammable trees that have not, apparently, been
 touched.  In another shot you will see large areas of woodland reduced to
 grey ash, with nearby dwellings apparently untouched.



 There is a Melbourne pdmler whose been in lurk mode for a good while, his
 name escapes me, but I think he's a city boy so should be safe (I hope so
 anyway).

 Regards, Anthony



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 Subject: are all our Aussies ok?


 I'll take our iciness to fire anyday --  hope everyone is safe

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Re: are all our Aussies ok?

2009-02-10 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Paul  all our Australian friends:  Stay safe  I hope the fires are put 
down soon.  Sending best regards from Chicago.  Christine



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Hi,

I'm in Melbourne and the whole thing still seems a bit surreal at this 
stage. I was at a family members house on Saturday, it was so hot, the air 
was thick with smoke and wind was unbelievably strong.  Some of the areas 
hit are only a 30 minute drive from the central business and are pretty 
much the outer suburbs of Melbourne.


I can think of the two other PDML members of the past who live in 
Melbourne and from memory they weren't in any area affected.


Paul

m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm in Sydney, which is safe.  The fires near here didn't get very bad.
Melbourne's summer climate is much more arid than Sydney's, so fires 
there
are more frequently close to the flashpoint at which vapourised 
eucalyptus

oil in the atmosphere will explode into a fireball.  Sydney's blanketing
humidity usually suppresses the combustibility of the atmosphere around 
the

fire front.


I'm finding the news pics we see here decidedly odd.  You will see an 
aerial shot of maybe a dozen dwellings, all razed to the ground.  Around 
them are numerous, perfectly flammable trees that have not, apparently, 
been touched.  In another shot you will see large areas of woodland 
reduced to grey ash, with nearby dwellings apparently untouched.



There is a Melbourne pdmler whose been in lurk mode for a good while, 
his
name escapes me, but I think he's a city boy so should be safe (I hope 
so

anyway).

Regards, Anthony



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I'll take our iciness to fire anyday --  hope everyone is safe

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RE: are all our Aussies ok?

2009-02-09 Thread m.9.wilson

 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I'm in Sydney, which is safe.  The fires near here didn't get very bad.  
 
 Melbourne's summer climate is much more arid than Sydney's, so fires there
 are more frequently close to the flashpoint at which vapourised eucalyptus
 oil in the atmosphere will explode into a fireball.  Sydney's blanketing
 humidity usually suppresses the combustibility of the atmosphere around the
 fire front. 

I'm finding the news pics we see here decidedly odd.  You will see an aerial 
shot of maybe a dozen dwellings, all razed to the ground.  Around them are 
numerous, perfectly flammable trees that have not, apparently, been touched.  
In another shot you will see large areas of woodland reduced to grey ash, with 
nearby dwellings apparently untouched.

 
 There is a Melbourne pdmler whose been in lurk mode for a good while, his
 name escapes me, but I think he's a city boy so should be safe (I hope so
 anyway).
 
 Regards, Anthony
 
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Re: are all our Aussies ok?

2009-02-09 Thread ann sanfedele



m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: 
 

I'm in Sydney, which is safe.  The fires near here didn't get very bad.  


Melbourne's summer climate is much more arid than Sydney's, so fires there
are more frequently close to the flashpoint at which vapourised eucalyptus
oil in the atmosphere will explode into a fireball.  Sydney's blanketing
humidity usually suppresses the combustibility of the atmosphere around the
fire front. 
   



I'm finding the news pics we see here decidedly odd.  You will see an aerial 
shot of maybe a dozen dwellings, all razed to the ground.  Around them are 
numerous, perfectly flammable trees that have not, apparently, been touched.  
In another shot you will see large areas of woodland reduced to grey ash, with 
nearby dwellings apparently untouched.
 



As one sees photos from our forest fires out west in the USA...   I 
walked around Oakland in the early 90's
after one major fire there where there were untouched houses just a few 
strides away from totally demolished ones,
and the photos from the southern california brush fires show similar 
oddities...but walking around the area (about a year

after the event, in my case) really drives that home.

ann

 




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are all our Aussies ok?

2009-02-08 Thread ann sanfedele


I'll take our iciness to fire anyday --  hope everyone is safe

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Re: are all our Aussies ok?

2009-02-08 Thread David Savage
2009/2/9 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:

 I'll take our iciness to fire anyday --  hope everyone is safe

I'm on the other side of the country from where the flooding  bush fires are.

DS

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RE: are all our Aussies ok?

2009-02-08 Thread Anthony Farr
I'm in Sydney, which is safe.  The fires near here didn't get very bad.  

Melbourne's summer climate is much more arid than Sydney's, so fires there
are more frequently close to the flashpoint at which vapourised eucalyptus
oil in the atmosphere will explode into a fireball.  Sydney's blanketing
humidity usually suppresses the combustibility of the atmosphere around the
fire front. 

There is a Melbourne pdmler whose been in lurk mode for a good while, his
name escapes me, but I think he's a city boy so should be safe (I hope so
anyway).

Regards, Anthony

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