Re: DA Lenses, Entrance Pupil

2007-08-09 Thread Toine
I found this on the panotools list:
http://michel.thoby.free.fr/Tokina_10_17/NPP-Tokina.jpg

On 8/8/07, jon carver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I've been using a couple DA lenses in panoramic shots
> and was hoping to compare the results of my experiment
> to determine the location of the entrance pubil of two
> lenses:
>
> DA 40 f/2.8 Limited
> DA Fisheye Zoom 10-17
>
> I'm using a K10D and Nodal Ninja. The 40 seems to like
> a 62mm offset from the rot. axis and the Fisheye
> (@17mm) seems to like a 90mm offset. Has anyone out
> there using these lenses in pano's found similar
> results?
>
> TIA,
> -Jon
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Re: DA Lenses, Entrance Pupil

2007-08-09 Thread Toine
The poster also posted this:
Please take note that for six shots and 17 mm, the NPP is some
millimeters backwards from the shown position.
To put it simply: the NPP is about fixed from 10 mm (four shots
around) to 17 mm (six shots around).

On 8/9/07, Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I found this on the panotools list:
> http://michel.thoby.free.fr/Tokina_10_17/NPP-Tokina.jpg
>
> On 8/8/07, jon carver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I've been using a couple DA lenses in panoramic shots
> > and was hoping to compare the results of my experiment
> > to determine the location of the entrance pubil of two
> > lenses:
> >
> > DA 40 f/2.8 Limited
> > DA Fisheye Zoom 10-17
> >
> > I'm using a K10D and Nodal Ninja. The 40 seems to like
> > a 62mm offset from the rot. axis and the Fisheye
> > (@17mm) seems to like a 90mm offset. Has anyone out
> > there using these lenses in pano's found similar
> > results?
> >
> > TIA,
> > -Jon
> >
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Re: DA lenses on 35mm (found some info)

2007-03-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Mar 12, 2007, at 5:35 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:

> On 3/12/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Makes a great 24x24 mm Pentax Superwide on a 35mm body ...
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/DA14FF-sq.jpg
>>
>
> Which brings to mind...  There's really no specific reason for DSLRs
> sensors to be rectangular, except for the size of mirror and prism,
> right?
>
> How about a 24x24mm DSLR?
>
> Not that I'd care for one--I like 3:2 myself.

Square sensors cost more to manufacture, that's why you rarely see  
anything like that in a production camera. But I like square format  
and wouldn't be unhappy with a 24x24 mm format sensor.

ON the other hand, a 4:3 format sensor fits my compositon and prints  
most of the time best and would enable me to get the most from the  
camera's resolution. Cropping to either square or 3:2 from 4:3  
invokes less wasted area than cropping to either 4:3 or square from  
3:2 capture. So if they're going to make any change at all, I'd  
prefer they fitted a larger sensor with a 4:3 proportion. Looking at  
the image circle of the DA14, I think they could do an 18x24mm sensor  
which, at the same density as the K10D sensor, would net almost 2.4  
Mpixel more resolution for my 11x14 inch and similar format prints  
with no increase in noise over the current sensor.

That's what I'd like to see.

Godfrey

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Re: DA lenses on 35mm (found some info)

2007-03-12 Thread Juan Buhler
On 3/12/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Makes a great 24x24 mm Pentax Superwide on a 35mm body ...
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/DA14FF-sq.jpg
>

Which brings to mind...  There's really no specific reason for DSLRs
sensors to be rectangular, except for the size of mirror and prism,
right?

How about a 24x24mm DSLR?

Not that I'd care for one--I like 3:2 myself.

j

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Re: DA lenses on 35mm (found some info)

2007-03-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Makes a great 24x24 mm Pentax Superwide on a 35mm body ...

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/DA14FF-sq.jpg

G


On Mar 12, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:

> Richard Day has posted a scan of an image taken with the DA 14 on  
> film:
>
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=22421936
>
> It clearly won't work with any sensor much larger than what we  
> have. In
> my mind, this greatly diminishes the possibility that Pentax will ever
> bring out a camera based on a 1.3x crop sensor.


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Re: DA lenses on 35mm (found some info)

2007-03-12 Thread Joseph Tainter
Richard Day has posted a scan of an image taken with the DA 14 on film:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=22421936

It clearly won't work with any sensor much larger than what we have. In 
my mind, this greatly diminishes the possibility that Pentax will ever 
bring out a camera based on a 1.3x crop sensor.

Joe

-

Hi,

Some time ago I asked for the 35mm coverage of the DA70, but it seemed 
that nobody could check it on a film camera.

I have found a thread on dpreview with info about this and other lenses 
that may be of your interest.
(I know that Pentax is only at APS-C, but for us that don't make a 
living on our hobby, it may help that a lens is also usable in 35mm 
format...).

The link:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=22325926

An abstract of the content:
---

10-17 FE - Usable from 14mm up

DA 12-24 - Usable from 16mm up

DA 16-45 - Usable from 20mm up

DA 50-200 - Not usable, vignettes at varying (small) amounts, never 
quite clears

DA 14 - Unusable, large image circle visible

DA 21 - slight corner image circle

DA 40 - Usable, no vignetting

DA 70 - Usable, no vignetting
---

IIRC, the 18-55 vignettes up to around 24mm.

Hope you find it useful.

Regards,
Jaume

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Re: DA* Lenses

2006-09-20 Thread Doug Franklin
Cameron Hood wrote:
> http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200646-05.jpg

Now if they'll just come out with quality 1.4X and 2X teleconverters
similar to the A-XS ones, that are compatible with at least the
supersonic AF, but also (hopefully) the older "blade" AF ...

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Re: DA lenses on FF

2006-02-25 Thread Thibouille
> Looks like it's fine past 24mm.  I've just checked it through the view
> finder though.
>
> Thibouille wrote:
> > What about DA18-55 ?

Thanks for checking ;)
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Re: DA lenses on FF

2006-02-25 Thread David
Looks like it's fine past 24mm.  I've just checked it through the view 
finder though.


Thibouille wrote:

What about DA18-55 ?

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Re: DA lenses on FF

2006-02-25 Thread Thibouille
What about DA18-55 ?

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Re: DA lenses on FF

2006-02-24 Thread Unca Mikey

 DA 40 - I have heard yes.


I bought a DA 40mm to use on 35mm -- works fine, it's a great lens.

*> UncaMikey



Re: DA lenses on FF

2006-02-24 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Pawel Czarnul"

Subject: DA lenses on FF




Hello All,

I would like to know which DA lenses can be used on FF (i.e. film) and
what focal lengths.

I refer to covering the entire frame. In particular:

1. DA 16-45
2. DA 10-17 FE
3. DA 12-24
4. DA 50-200
5. DA 14 ??? - I assume no here.
6. DA 40 - I have heard yes.


DA14 no.
DA10-17 will cover the 35mm frame from about 14mm to 17mm, though I don't 
know if it's sharp or not, I've just looked through the viewfinder of an LX 
with it mounted.


William Robb




Re: DA lenses on FF

2006-02-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 24, 2006, at 2:26 PM, Paweł Czarnul wrote:


1. DA 16-45


Covers 24x36 from about 22-24mm up.


5. DA 14 ??? - I assume no here.


Covers 24x24.


6. DA 40 - I have heard yes.


Many have said yes.

Godfrey




Re: DA lenses and Stan's site

2005-04-20 Thread Thibouille
Alright, thanks for the information.
BTW I take the opportunity to thank you for your site and the work you
do. It gives a very interesting source of information on lenses.

Thanks!

2005/4/20, Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I am accumulating the comments as they occur. The DA lenses (and the
> several other "missing" newer lenses) will be incorporated next time
> around.
> 
> Stan
> 
> 
> On Apr 20, 2005, at 1:10 AM, Thibouille wrote:
> 
> > None of the DA lenses are on Stan's site. Is that deliberate or are
> > they just too recent to have any comments on his site?
> >
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> 
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Re: DA lenses and Stan's site

2005-04-20 Thread Stan Halpin
I am accumulating the comments as they occur. The DA lenses (and the 
several other "missing" newer lenses) will be incorporated next time 
around.

Stan
On Apr 20, 2005, at 1:10 AM, Thibouille wrote:
None of the DA lenses are on Stan's site. Is that deliberate or are
they just too recent to have any comments on his site?
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Re: DA lenses : quote :The Fifth element :was it Green ?

2004-03-17 Thread Jostein
Hi, Clover
I agree with you. It's not a nice colour, but I think it's traditional. The
A* lenses had a rubber ring of the same colour to mark it's "asterisk-ness".
At least my 645 A* 300/4 has one.

Cheers,
Jostein

- Original Message - 
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:02 AM
Subject: DA lenses : quote :The Fifth element :was it Green ?


>
> Hello everybody,
>
> I do not like Green. ( But Hulk is still a good comics, sometimes )
>
> But I do not agree(n ? ) with the choice of green, for the color of the DA
> Ring.
>
> And You ?
>
> ^_^
>



re: DA lenses

2004-03-11 Thread "Mike Ignatiev"
> From: edwin 
>
> I think the answer is that the DA lenses are smaller than they would be if
> they were not DA.  Does anybody make a 16-45 that covers 35mm format?
> Sigma's 15-35 is not exactly small.

by the same reasoning lenses in 35mm format and, say, 6x6, covering the same angle,
should be about the same size. well, apparently (luckily!) my SMCA 24mm/2.8 is *much* 
smaller
than hassy's 50mm/2.8 

best,
mishka