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> > On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > > > > On Aug 7, 2006, at 8:07 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > > > >> OTOH the D200 is fantastic, but its a consumer body, so my clients > >> don't take me seriously, Sorry group, should have been a smily face after that comment.:-) Dave > > > > Pshaw. Any client who disparages your choice of equipment is an > > idiot. > > I agree completely. I did four jobs for a client using a Sony F707 a > few years back. First time through I did a test pass, I was skeptical > that the quality would be there and was ready to fall back to a film > camera, but after one look at the results the client was ecstatic. It > saved a ton of money and the quality was just fine for the purpose of > the work. > > I just arranged a few jobs today with another client. I'll use either > the Pentax DS or the Sony R1 to complete it. A test run with the > Sony R1 and 11x17" print made his eyes bug out... > > Godfrey > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > On Aug 7, 2006, at 8:07 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > >> OTOH the D200 is fantastic, but its a consumer body, so my clients >> don't take me seriously, > > Pshaw. Any client who disparages your choice of equipment is an > idiot. I agree completely. I did four jobs for a client using a Sony F707 a few years back. First time through I did a test pass, I was skeptical that the quality would be there and was ready to fall back to a film camera, but after one look at the results the client was ecstatic. It saved a ton of money and the quality was just fine for the purpose of the work. I just arranged a few jobs today with another client. I'll use either the Pentax DS or the Sony R1 to complete it. A test run with the Sony R1 and 11x17" print made his eyes bug out... Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Aug 7, 2006, at 8:33 PM, William Robb wrote: > Sadly, those idiots are the same idiots that put food on your table. C'mon now -- any client who knows enough about cameras that he can look at Dave's D200 and think it's not a "professional" camera but will be wowed by his D2H which is a "professional" camera and will say that to his face is a dolt -- why would you want the inferior image from the D2H? Sometimes a quick word is all you need to silence the kind of people who would carp about such things. I've said "When I did my testing, this gave me the results that I wanted". Once I was pressed on why I was shooting with a P67 and not a Hasselblad, at a hockey game of all places. So I finally asked how that person would deal with the slow speed of working caused by the Hasselblad's control layout when shooting a sporting event. He apologized and left me alone. He was very happy with the pictures. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: "Aaron Reynolds" Subject: Re: returning to this group > > On Aug 7, 2006, at 8:07 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > >> OTOH the D200 is fantastic, but its a consumer body, so my clients >> don't take me seriously, > > Pshaw. Any client who disparages your choice of equipment is an > idiot. Sadly, those idiots are the same idiots that put food on your table. I had the occassional client that questioned why I didn't use Nikon. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Aug 7, 2006, at 8:21 PM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > Pshaw. Any client who disparages your choice of equipment is an idiot. > > The guy who runs the official Jays photo service just bought a D200. Just to further the point -- he does the in-house photography of the team for the team. All headshots/mugshots/team pictures/celebrity first pitch/anthem singers as well as a large amount of action photography for the team to use in advertising etc. All those big mural photographs, too. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Aug 7, 2006, at 8:07 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > OTOH the D200 is fantastic, but its a consumer body, so my clients > don't take me seriously, Pshaw. Any client who disparages your choice of equipment is an idiot. The guy who runs the official Jays photo service just bought a D200. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Every shot is different.Over exposed, underesposed, wb differneces, all on the same fence in a matter of seconds. Less than 10,000 shutters i had to replace the AE board, twice in for metering problems and then the shutter went at 9800 actuations. Need i say more. lol OTOH the D200 is fantastic, but its a consumer body, so my clients don't take me seriously, neither will Nikon service, however i'm sure when i leave my name that might help, so i need a Canon MK II now. Dave Quoting Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Everyone I know with a D2H seriously hates it -- was it a notorious dog? > > -Aaron > > -Original Message- > > From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I;m looking for something to replace my D2h which i > hate. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Everyone I know with a D2H seriously hates it -- was it a notorious dog? -Aaron -Original Message- From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I;m looking for something to replace my D2h which i hate. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Yes if I go the Pentax route the 12-24 is definetly one of the first if not the first len we will buy. The 400 2.8 on the other hand I will just borrow the lens and camera from work..It costs more than any car I have ever owned :) Good to know the Pentax version is a good performer. I do not use ours that much as co-worker normally carries it in his bag. I usually use the 17-55 and 70-200 2.8 VR and all the other letters Nikon uses on their lenses. When only able to use one lens borrow the 18-200 as long as the light will be good. I really like the 70-200 but it is heavy and the D1X with that lens compared to the MZ5n and the 70-200 or 70-210 we have is like comparing apples to blueberries > > The 12-24 won't be that expensive to match, the Pentax 12-24 is > significantly cheaper than the Nikon but performs just as well > (The > extra cost in the Nikon is in heavier build and the AF-S motor). > > The 400 f2.8 on the other hand... > >> > > -- > > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 12:57:09 -0400 > From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: returning to this group > To: pdml@pdml.net > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; > format="flowed" > > Quoting IVAN SHUKSTER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > My name is Ivan and I live in Medicine Hat Alberta. I was a > member > > of this list briefly last summer. > > Welcome back. > > > I can buy a Pentex DSLR and upgrade some of my lenses and keep > the > > MZ5n or buy a Nikon D200 (one of which I do have on order for my > use > > at work to replace the D1X) > > Is the D1X for sale.? I would be interestedif it is. Contact me > off > list if you like. I;m looking for something to replace my D2h > which i > hate. > Dave The D1X is not mine to sale and is not for sale and in a way seeing as you are a Canadian you have already paid for it, txpayers dollars at work :) We still have uses for them , we have more than one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Quoting IVAN SHUKSTER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > My name is Ivan and I live in Medicine Hat Alberta. I was a member > of this list briefly last summer. Welcome back. > I can buy a Pentex DSLR and upgrade some of my lenses and keep the > MZ5n or buy a Nikon D200 (one of which I do have on order for my use > at work to replace the D1X) Is the D1X for sale.? I would be interestedif it is. Contact me off list if you like. I;m looking for something to replace my D2h which i hate. > Not a decision I wish to rush in as I am not much into buying and > selling cameras The only time we did change systems was from screw > mount to the K mount. Also in a position that we do not have to make > the decision until next spring as wife will need a DSLR next summer. > If we go the Pentax route it will either be the upcoming K10D or > else try to pick up a used DS/DS2 cheaply and wait for the next > camera ; K1D or K20D or whatever will come down the pipeline and > from the sounds of what Pentax is proposing it does sound positive > that improved models will continue to come. One of the reasons to go > the later route is to later convert the DS to an infrared camera. I > have enjoyed and found informative the emails about the upcoming > K10D (and the speculation as well). A DS2 or wait for the K10o or K10 seems the way to go. A lot of use have the istD, and like it, so if you can find a good used one, that might be an oprion to. Dave, near Toronto, Brooks > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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The 12-24 won't be that expensive to match, the Pentax 12-24 is significantly cheaper than the Nikon but performs just as well (The extra cost in the Nikon is in heavier build and the AF-S motor). The 400 f2.8 on the other hand... -Adam Bob Sullivan wrote: > Ivan, > > Welcome back. I think you have a problem with all your optional glass. > I'm sure the 12-24 Nikkor and 400 f2.8 are spoiling you. ;-) > They will be expensive to duplicate in Pentax gear. > > I have a Pentax Ds and played a bit with my nephew's new K100D yesterday. > I didn't get much of a read on the shake reduction feature, but I > consider it a plus. > The camera itself is just a bit more boxy than the Ds, maybe more plastic? > I expect the K10D will be a step up and feature share reduction. > > I wouldn't have a problem building a system around the old Pentax > lenses that you already owned. If you want to switch later, the glass > has been holding good value as Pentax seems to be adding users with > digital. > > Regards, Bob S. > > On 8/6/06, IVAN SHUKSTER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>My name is Ivan and I live in Medicine Hat Alberta. I was a member of this >>list briefly last summer. >>I first began using Pentax i 1973 and bought my first one , a Spotmatic F >>which I stil have, the next year. Eventually my wife and I had two Spotmatic >>Fs with a bunch of lenses most of which we traded for a second SF1x. Also own >>a MZ5n and picked up really cheap a A110 with three lenses. Not sure if I >>will ever shot a 110 again even though do have several rolls of film, but why >>bother? For the last 25 years also own a Rolleichord. >>My last two camera purchases were not Pentax, a used Shen Hao 4X5 field >>camera and before that a Sony P&S. I still shoot film, but with my new job >>there was a Hassleblad and six lenses being unused so that is what most of my >>B&W shooting has been of late. >>We are seriously thinking of obtaining a digital SLR and having to make a >>decision on brand and model. This decision is not an obvious one as although >>we have three Pentax bodies and a few lenses and accessories, none of them >>are expensive and other than the fisheye zoom, all are easily replaced with >>used equvalents. At work I am able to use for non commerical purposes the >>camera and lenses I use at work which right now is a D1X or D2H and lenses >>from the 12-24 DX to a 400 2.8 Nikkors and all the fast glass that Nikon >>makes or so it seems. Occassionlly I borrow from friend/co-worker the D2X. >>That does not help my wife however. >>I can buy a Pentex DSLR and upgrade some of my lenses and keep the MZ5n or >>buy a Nikon D200 (one of which I do have on order for my use at work to >>replace the D1X) use some of the older slower lenses that are not used at >>work until we get our own Nikkors. There are also F5 at work not being used >>as well as an 8X10 monorail camera I hope to try next year. Would also >>eventually need to buy a Nikon film camera if went this route so although it >>would give me the broadest system it would be to me them most expensive way >>and of course even if we buy Pentax I still can use the Nikon myself. >>Not a decision I wish to rush in as I am not much into buying and selling >>cameras The only time we did change systems was from screw mount to the K >>mount. Also in a position that we do not have to make the decision until next >>spring as wife will need a DSLR next summer. >>If we go the Pentax route it will either be the upcoming K10D or else try to >>pick up a used DS/DS2 cheaply and wait for the next camera ; K1D or K20D or >>whatever will come down the pipeline and from the sounds of what Pentax is >>proposing it does sound positive that improved models will continue to come. >>One of the reasons to go the later route is to later convert the DS to an >>infrared camera. I have enjoyed and found informative the emails about the >>upcoming K10D (and the speculation as well). >> >> >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Ivan, Welcome back. I think you have a problem with all your optional glass. I'm sure the 12-24 Nikkor and 400 f2.8 are spoiling you. ;-) They will be expensive to duplicate in Pentax gear. I have a Pentax Ds and played a bit with my nephew's new K100D yesterday. I didn't get much of a read on the shake reduction feature, but I consider it a plus. The camera itself is just a bit more boxy than the Ds, maybe more plastic? I expect the K10D will be a step up and feature share reduction. I wouldn't have a problem building a system around the old Pentax lenses that you already owned. If you want to switch later, the glass has been holding good value as Pentax seems to be adding users with digital. Regards, Bob S. On 8/6/06, IVAN SHUKSTER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My name is Ivan and I live in Medicine Hat Alberta. I was a member of this > list briefly last summer. > I first began using Pentax i 1973 and bought my first one , a Spotmatic F > which I stil have, the next year. Eventually my wife and I had two Spotmatic > Fs with a bunch of lenses most of which we traded for a second SF1x. Also own > a MZ5n and picked up really cheap a A110 with three lenses. Not sure if I > will ever shot a 110 again even though do have several rolls of film, but why > bother? For the last 25 years also own a Rolleichord. > My last two camera purchases were not Pentax, a used Shen Hao 4X5 field > camera and before that a Sony P&S. I still shoot film, but with my new job > there was a Hassleblad and six lenses being unused so that is what most of my > B&W shooting has been of late. > We are seriously thinking of obtaining a digital SLR and having to make a > decision on brand and model. This decision is not an obvious one as although > we have three Pentax bodies and a few lenses and accessories, none of them > are expensive and other than the fisheye zoom, all are easily replaced with > used equvalents. At work I am able to use for non commerical purposes the > camera and lenses I use at work which right now is a D1X or D2H and lenses > from the 12-24 DX to a 400 2.8 Nikkors and all the fast glass that Nikon > makes or so it seems. Occassionlly I borrow from friend/co-worker the D2X. > That does not help my wife however. > I can buy a Pentex DSLR and upgrade some of my lenses and keep the MZ5n or > buy a Nikon D200 (one of which I do have on order for my use at work to > replace the D1X) use some of the older slower lenses that are not used at > work until we get our own Nikkors. There are also F5 at work not being used > as well as an 8X10 monorail camera I hope to try next year. Would also > eventually need to buy a Nikon film camera if went this route so although it > would give me the broadest system it would be to me them most expensive way > and of course even if we buy Pentax I still can use the Nikon myself. > Not a decision I wish to rush in as I am not much into buying and selling > cameras The only time we did change systems was from screw mount to the K > mount. Also in a position that we do not have to make the decision until next > spring as wife will need a DSLR next summer. > If we go the Pentax route it will either be the upcoming K10D or else try to > pick up a used DS/DS2 cheaply and wait for the next camera ; K1D or K20D or > whatever will come down the pipeline and from the sounds of what Pentax is > proposing it does sound positive that improved models will continue to come. > One of the reasons to go the later route is to later convert the DS to an > infrared camera. I have enjoyed and found informative the emails about the > upcoming K10D (and the speculation as well). > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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My name is Ivan and I live in Medicine Hat Alberta. I was a member of this list briefly last summer. I first began using Pentax i 1973 and bought my first one , a Spotmatic F which I stil have, the next year. Eventually my wife and I had two Spotmatic Fs with a bunch of lenses most of which we traded for a second SF1x. Also own a MZ5n and picked up really cheap a A110 with three lenses. Not sure if I will ever shot a 110 again even though do have several rolls of film, but why bother? For the last 25 years also own a Rolleichord. My last two camera purchases were not Pentax, a used Shen Hao 4X5 field camera and before that a Sony P&S. I still shoot film, but with my new job there was a Hassleblad and six lenses being unused so that is what most of my B&W shooting has been of late. We are seriously thinking of obtaining a digital SLR and having to make a decision on brand and model. This decision is not an obvious one as although we have three Pentax bodies and a few lenses and accessories, none of them are expensive and other than the fisheye zoom, all are easily replaced with used equvalents. At work I am able to use for non commerical purposes the camera and lenses I use at work which right now is a D1X or D2H and lenses from the 12-24 DX to a 400 2.8 Nikkors and all the fast glass that Nikon makes or so it seems. Occassionlly I borrow from friend/co-worker the D2X. That does not help my wife however. I can buy a Pentex DSLR and upgrade some of my lenses and keep the MZ5n or buy a Nikon D200 (one of which I do have on order for my use at work to replace the D1X) use some of the older slower lenses that are not used at work until we get our own Nikkors. There are also F5 at work not being used as well as an 8X10 monorail camera I hope to try next year. Would also eventually need to buy a Nikon film camera if went this route so although it would give me the broadest system it would be to me them most expensive way and of course even if we buy Pentax I still can use the Nikon myself. Not a decision I wish to rush in as I am not much into buying and selling cameras The only time we did change systems was from screw mount to the K mount. Also in a position that we do not have to make the decision until next spring as wife will need a DSLR next summer. If we go the Pentax route it will either be the upcoming K10D or else try to pick up a used DS/DS2 cheaply and wait for the next camera ; K1D or K20D or whatever will come down the pipeline and from the sounds of what Pentax is proposing it does sound positive that improved models will continue to come. One of the reasons to go the later route is to later convert the DS to an infrared camera. I have enjoyed and found informative the emails about the upcoming K10D (and the speculation as well). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
