Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-11 Thread akozak
William,
yes, he will process them in Poland so I do hope that effect of X rays
will be very very small. Maybe it is better to have them in with himself
instead of in bags that go separately.
Alek
PS BTW, did you shoot with Velvia 100?Not F. Any comments are welcome. I
also wonder if scans from Provia F100 on high quality scanner and prints
are better/worse than prints after interpolation from ds. For instance
8x12 inch and bigger
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 Subject: Re: slides and Roentgen rays


 Hi William,
 Yes it is the best to buy where you are but my friend goes to Poland and
 plan to buy some Provia F100 films since in NY there is cheaper. I just
 wonder if X rays affect 100 ASA films as much

 He should be OK with it as carry on for the NY to Poland trip.
 If he can get it processed there he will be much safer, as the exposed
 film
 is much more prone to X-Ray damage.

 William Robb





Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-11 Thread akozak
so if someone carry on 100 ASA slides there should be not a problem with
such machines. just a trip from NY to Poland and process of films in
Poland. So films must not be checked in baggage!..Just to carry them on.
Alek
 The Xray machines used for carry-on baggage are not a
 problem for ordinary photographic film (though
 3200-speed film may be fogged after a few passes
 through).

 The Xray machines used for CHECKED baggage, though,
 are death to photographic film.  Lead-lined bags are
 useless against them.

 So, make sure you carry on your film!

 Processed film is safe either way.

 Rick

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
   Does anyone know if it is still a concern or maybe
 special bags are
 necessary to avoid the problem. I mean fresh films,
 not processed. Please
 send me your opinions and sugestions how you travel
 (led) with slides
 by plane. Thank you in advance. Alek




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Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-11 Thread mike wilson

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Hello,
  Does anyone know if it is still a concern or maybe special bags are
necessary to avoid the problem. I mean fresh films, not processed. Please
send me your opinions and sugestions how you travel (led) with slides
by plane. Thank you in advance. Alek



I've done a lot of travelling between the UK and Polska with unexposed 
film, in both directions.  Some films have done many passes through 
X-ray machines.  So far, no problems.  All my film travels with me 
rather than with my luggage.


I can recommend a processor in Krakow, if you need it.

mike



Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-11 Thread akozak
Hi Wilson,
SO if 100 ASA slides go through X rays machines and they will be carry on
no problems with films?
Which photo center do you recommed?Konaszewska Photo lab?
And it is better to carry on that have them in luggage?Is it truth?
Greetings
Alek

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
   Does anyone know if it is still a concern or maybe special bags are
 necessary to avoid the problem. I mean fresh films, not processed.
 Please
 send me your opinions and sugestions how you travel (led) with slides
 by plane. Thank you in advance. Alek



 I've done a lot of travelling between the UK and Polska with unexposed
 film, in both directions.  Some films have done many passes through
 X-ray machines.  So far, no problems.  All my film travels with me
 rather than with my luggage.

 I can recommend a processor in Krakow, if you need it.

 mike




Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Yes, carry the film onto the plane.  Do not put it in your luggage.  Bob S.

On 12/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Wilson,
 SO if 100 ASA slides go through X rays machines and they will be carry on
 no problems with films?
 Which photo center do you recommed?Konaszewska Photo lab?
 And it is better to carry on that have them in luggage?Is it truth?
 Greetings
 Alek

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello,
Does anyone know if it is still a concern or maybe special bags are
  necessary to avoid the problem. I mean fresh films, not processed.
  Please
  send me your opinions and sugestions how you travel (led) with slides
  by plane. Thank you in advance. Alek
 
 
 
  I've done a lot of travelling between the UK and Polska with unexposed
  film, in both directions.  Some films have done many passes through
  X-ray machines.  So far, no problems.  All my film travels with me
  rather than with my luggage.
 
  I can recommend a processor in Krakow, if you need it.
 
  mike
 





Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-11 Thread mike wilson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Wilson,
SO if 100 ASA slides go through X rays machines and they will be carry on
no problems with films?


Exactly.


Which photo center do you recommed?Konaszewska Photo lab?


Kodak Pro lab in Plac Matejki


And it is better to carry on that have them in luggage?Is it truth?


Exactly.  They _will_ be damaged if not carry on.


Greetings
Alek

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,
 Does anyone know if it is still a concern or maybe special bags are
necessary to avoid the problem. I mean fresh films, not processed.
Please
send me your opinions and sugestions how you travel (led) with slides
by plane. Thank you in advance. Alek





I've done a lot of travelling between the UK and Polska with unexposed
film, in both directions.  Some films have done many passes through
X-ray machines.  So far, no problems.  All my film travels with me
rather than with my luggage.

I can recommend a processor in Krakow, if you need it.

mike










slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-10 Thread akozak
Hello,
  Does anyone know if it is still a concern or maybe special bags are
necessary to avoid the problem. I mean fresh films, not processed. Please
send me your opinions and sugestions how you travel (led) with slides
by plane. Thank you in advance. Alek



Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
USA travel:
Don't pack film in your bags - heavy dosage of x-rays.
Do carry film in your 'carry on' bag, in a clear plastic bag (baggie).
Just put ASA 400 film thru the low dosage 'carry on' bag scanner.
They will hand check ASA 800+ film if you point it out.
If you are concerned about multiple exposures to x-rays,
mix some ASA 800+ film into your baggie and ask for a hand check.

Outside USA travel:
Reasoning with the 'carry on' baggage inspectors is nearly impossible.
Use digital???

Regards,  Bob S.

On 12/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
  Does anyone know if it is still a concern or maybe special bags are
 necessary to avoid the problem. I mean fresh films, not processed. Please
 send me your opinions and sugestions how you travel (led) with slides
 by plane. Thank you in advance. Alek





Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-10 Thread akozak
Hmmm,
My friend from NY is going to have some 100 ASA slides (Provia F100) and
we wonder if there is any possibility to overcome such problems. He is
going to Poland soon.
Alek

 USA travel:
 Don't pack film in your bags - heavy dosage of x-rays.
 Do carry film in your 'carry on' bag, in a clear plastic bag (baggie).
 Just put ASA 400 film thru the low dosage 'carry on' bag scanner.
 They will hand check ASA 800+ film if you point it out.
 If you are concerned about multiple exposures to x-rays,
 mix some ASA 800+ film into your baggie and ask for a hand check.

 Outside USA travel:
 Reasoning with the 'carry on' baggage inspectors is nearly impossible.
 Use digital???

 Regards,  Bob S.

 On 12/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Hello,
  Does anyone know if it is still a concern or maybe special bags are
 necessary to avoid the problem. I mean fresh films, not processed.
 Please
 send me your opinions and sugestions how you travel (led) with slides
 by plane. Thank you in advance. Alek






Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-10 Thread Rick Womer
The Xray machines used for carry-on baggage are not a
problem for ordinary photographic film (though
3200-speed film may be fogged after a few passes
through).

The Xray machines used for CHECKED baggage, though,
are death to photographic film.  Lead-lined bags are
useless against them.

So, make sure you carry on your film!

Processed film is safe either way.

Rick

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
   Does anyone know if it is still a concern or maybe
 special bags are
 necessary to avoid the problem. I mean fresh films,
 not processed. Please
 send me your opinions and sugestions how you travel
 (led) with slides
 by plane. Thank you in advance. Alek
 
 


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Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-10 Thread Bob Shell


On Dec 10, 2005, at 11:06 AM, Rick Womer wrote:


The Xray machines used for carry-on baggage are not a
problem for ordinary photographic film (though
3200-speed film may be fogged after a few passes
through).



And even 3200 isn't fogged that easily.  We had some put through  
seven times and processed it.  There was a very minimal increase in  
base fog.


Still, if you want to try for hand inspections, buy a few rolls of  
3200 film and mix in with your other film.  Pointing it out will  
usually get you a hand check.



The Xray machines used for CHECKED baggage, though,
are death to photographic film.  Lead-lined bags are
useless against them.



Lead-lined bags are useless, period.  If the machine operator can't  
see through a big blob they will just open your luggage and dump out  
the contents.  They are actually the worst possible idea.



So, make sure you carry on your film!



Or, if you carry a lot of film, as I used to do before digital, ship  
it ahead to your hotel or a friend.  I used to always do that when on  
assignment, shipping a few bricks of film ahead (and verifying its  
delivery).  I then shipped the exposed film back to the lab in  
batches, and it was all processed and waiting for me on my return.   
The lab had instructions to check the film and contact me by  
telephone if they saw any problems.  This saved my butt one time when  
a camera shutter died.  It was firing and sounded normal, but it  
wasn't opening as the blades traveled, and all film shot with it was  
blank.


Bob



Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-10 Thread William Robb


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From:

Subject: slides and Roentgen rays



Hello,
 Does anyone know if it is still a concern or maybe special bags are
necessary to avoid the problem. I mean fresh films, not processed. Please
send me your opinions and sugestions how you travel (led) with slides
by plane. Thank you in advance. Alek


I've never thought much about lead foil bags. I've seen to much X-Ray 
damaged film come out of them.
Best strategy is to buy your film on location, and get it processed there as 
well, next best is to insist on hand inspections, and take all your film as 
carry on.


William Robb 





Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-10 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Bob Shell

Subject: Re: slides and Roentgen rays



And even 3200 isn't fogged that easily.  We had some put through  seven 
times and processed it.  There was a very minimal increase in  base fog.


Unexposed film doesn't react as badly as exposed film. Once the film is over 
the exposure threshold, X-Ray damage happens really easily. Interestingly, 
it doesn't seem to do much to BD+F levels, it just buggers up the image 
areas.


William Robb 





Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-10 Thread akozak
Hi William,
Yes it is the best to buy where you are but my friend goes to Poland and
plan to buy some Provia F100 films since in NY there is cheaper. I just
wonder if X rays affect 100 ASA films as much
Alek
 - Original Message -
 From:
 Subject: slides and Roentgen rays


 Hello,
  Does anyone know if it is still a concern or maybe special bags are
 necessary to avoid the problem. I mean fresh films, not processed.
 Please
 send me your opinions and sugestions how you travel (led) with slides
 by plane. Thank you in advance. Alek

 I've never thought much about lead foil bags. I've seen to much X-Ray
 damaged film come out of them.
 Best strategy is to buy your film on location, and get it processed there
 as
 well, next best is to insist on hand inspections, and take all your film
 as
 carry on.

 William Robb





Re: slides and Roentgen rays

2005-12-10 Thread William Robb


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Subject: Re: slides and Roentgen rays



Hi William,
Yes it is the best to buy where you are but my friend goes to Poland and
plan to buy some Provia F100 films since in NY there is cheaper. I just
wonder if X rays affect 100 ASA films as much


He should be OK with it as carry on for the NY to Poland trip.
If he can get it processed there he will be much safer, as the exposed film 
is much more prone to X-Ray damage.


William Robb