Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
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Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
Such generous offers! I think I'll pass, though... No hard feelings? :) -c On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:35 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/10 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: Don't listen to him, it's a terrible piece of glass. I'll take it off your hands for $50. you'll feel bad if you take that much for it - I'll have it for 20 and promise no hard feelings -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
Just wanted to let you know I think you made the right decision in allowing me to take it off your hands for $10. And, as promised, I won't let anyone else on the list know about the agreement. Mum's the word. Won't tell a soul. My lips are sealed. May lightning strike me, on my grandmother's grave. Confidentially yours, Walt On 9/10/2010 8:33 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Such generous offers! I think I'll pass, though... No hard feelings? :) -c On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:35 AM, eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/10 Larry Colenl...@red4est.com: Don't listen to him, it's a terrible piece of glass. I'll take it off your hands for $50. you'll feel bad if you take that much for it - I'll have it for 20 and promise no hard feelings -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
Walter, your discretion is greatly appreciated. I'm happy just knowing you'll put it to good use. With this lens, you can easily justify charging $300 a pop for Little League portraits. -c On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to let you know I think you made the right decision in allowing me to take it off your hands for $10. And, as promised, I won't let anyone else on the list know about the agreement. Mum's the word. Won't tell a soul. My lips are sealed. May lightning strike me, on my grandmother's grave. Confidentially yours, Walt On 9/10/2010 8:33 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Such generous offers! I think I'll pass, though... No hard feelings? :) -c On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:35 AM, eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/10 Larry Colenl...@red4est.com: Don't listen to him, it's a terrible piece of glass. I'll take it off your hands for $50. you'll feel bad if you take that much for it - I'll have it for 20 and promise no hard feelings -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
On 9/8/2010 10:34 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Today, I enabled myself with the Pentax smc FA 100mm 2.8 macro lens. Funny thing is, it happened kind of by accident... I thought I was purchasing the DFA 100mm 2.8 macro (the non-WR version), but it turns out I overlooked the missing D when I placed my order. Whoops. ... What I wonder is this: what am I missing out on because of my shopping cart mix-up? (Besides the price difference...) I'm not sure I understand the difference between the DFA FA designations... Are there other features of either lens that I should consider before I declare this one a keeper? Thanks, -c Congratulations, you got yourself on of the best lenses Pentax ever produced. Although a bit large and heavy it is mighty excellent... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 9/8/2010 10:34 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Today, I enabled myself with the Pentax smc FA 100mm 2.8 macro lens. Funny thing is, it happened kind of by accident... I thought I was purchasing the DFA 100mm 2.8 macro (the non-WR version), but it turns out I overlooked the missing D when I placed my order. Whoops. ... What I wonder is this: what am I missing out on because of my shopping cart mix-up? (Besides the price difference...) I'm not sure I understand the difference between the DFA FA designations... Are there other features of either lens that I should consider before I declare this one a keeper? Thanks, -c Congratulations, you got yourself on of the best lenses Pentax ever produced. Although a bit large and heavy it is mighty excellent... Don't listen to him, it's a terrible piece of glass. I'll take it off your hands for $50. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
thoughts on 100mm macro...?
Greetings, all--- Today, I enabled myself with the Pentax smc FA 100mm 2.8 macro lens. Funny thing is, it happened kind of by accident... I thought I was purchasing the DFA 100mm 2.8 macro (the non-WR version), but it turns out I overlooked the missing D when I placed my order. Whoops. Anyway, I picked it up to use for some jewelry shots I'm doing for a client. When I saw that it wasn't what I had in mind, I wasn't sure... it has a kind of funky look to it, with a deeply recessed lens. But -- I'm really liking it so far. The images are sharp, and the AF is fast. I think this could be the start of a very nice relationship... What I wonder is this: what am I missing out on because of my shopping cart mix-up? (Besides the price difference...) I'm not sure I understand the difference between the DFA FA designations... Are there other features of either lens that I should consider before I declare this one a keeper? Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
Christine Nielsen wrote: Greetings, all--- Today, I enabled myself with the Pentax smc FA 100mm 2.8 macro lens. Funny thing is, it happened kind of by accident... I thought I was purchasing the DFA 100mm 2.8 macro (the non-WR version), but it turns out I overlooked the missing D when I placed my order. Whoops. [ ... ] What I wonder is this: what am I missing out on because of my shopping cart mix-up? (Besides the price difference...) I'm not sure I understand the difference between the DFA FA designations... Are there other features of either lens that I should consider before I declare this one a keeper? I think the DFA version is supposed to be optimised for digital (whatever that means - slight modifications of the coating, perhaps), but without changes to the basic optical formula, as far as I understand. It does not have the focus limiter fix of the FA. It is much smaller and lighter, which I suppose may be convenient. On the other hand, the FA probably feels a lot more like a real lens, and you can drop it on the pavement from a fair height without breaking anything, or at least that's true for the similar F-version, which I have (yes, I've tried...) - Toralf Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
The D means it's optimized for digital. 1. It has special coatings and a revised /special/ optical design to minimize the faults that digital is err to. (I think this is mostly marketing hype, a good lens is a good lens and makes good photos, a bad lens can still be fun). 2. It used to mean that it had a mechanical aperture ring, and the necessary couplings, but alas no more. That's about it. On 9/8/2010 3:34 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Greetings, all--- Today, I enabled myself with the Pentax smc FA 100mm 2.8 macro lens. Funny thing is, it happened kind of by accident... I thought I was purchasing the DFA 100mm 2.8 macro (the non-WR version), but it turns out I overlooked the missing D when I placed my order. Whoops. Anyway, I picked it up to use for some jewelry shots I'm doing for a client. When I saw that it wasn't what I had in mind, I wasn't sure... it has a kind of funky look to it, with a deeply recessed lens. But -- I'm really liking it so far. The images are sharp, and the AF is fast. I think this could be the start of a very nice relationship... What I wonder is this: what am I missing out on because of my shopping cart mix-up? (Besides the price difference...) I'm not sure I understand the difference between the DFA FA designations... Are there other features of either lens that I should consider before I declare this one a keeper? Thanks, -c -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
Toralf Lund wrote: Christine Nielsen wrote: Greetings, all--- Today, I enabled myself with the Pentax smc FA 100mm 2.8 macro lens. Funny thing is, it happened kind of by accident... I thought I was purchasing the DFA 100mm 2.8 macro (the non-WR version), but it turns out I overlooked the missing D when I placed my order. Whoops. [ ... ] What I wonder is this: what am I missing out on because of my shopping cart mix-up? (Besides the price difference...) I'm not sure I understand the difference between the DFA FA designations... Are there other features of either lens that I should consider before I declare this one a keeper? I think the DFA version is supposed to be optimised for digital (whatever that means - slight modifications of the coating, perhaps), but without changes to the basic optical formula, as far as I understand. It does not have the focus limiter fix of the FA. Typing way too fast, again. I meant to say limiter *switch*... - Toralf It is much smaller and lighter, which I suppose may be convenient. On the other hand, the FA probably feels a lot more like a real lens, and you can drop it on the pavement from a fair height without breaking anything, or at least that's true for the similar F-version, which I have (yes, I've tried...) - Toralf Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
Christine, The DFA 100mm f2.8 Macro has a 49mm front filter size vs 58mm on the older versions. This might make a difference if you're planning on using a ringflash as 49mm is easier to find. I've shot a lot with the A100mm f2.8 Macro (no autofocus) and quite like it. It's not suprising to hear good things about the FA 100mm f2.8 Macro. I carrying around the DFA 100mm f2.8 Macro now. It's a bit lighter and more compact with very nice image qualities. I watched Mark Cassino (of Snow Flake fame) shoot with one and made the switch. I don't know what kind of a discount you got on the FA vs DFA. The DFA's were discounted for a while as Canada got rid of the 'non-waterproof' stock. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Greetings, all--- Today, I enabled myself with the Pentax smc FA 100mm 2.8 macro lens. Funny thing is, it happened kind of by accident... I thought I was purchasing the DFA 100mm 2.8 macro (the non-WR version), but it turns out I overlooked the missing D when I placed my order. Whoops. Anyway, I picked it up to use for some jewelry shots I'm doing for a client. When I saw that it wasn't what I had in mind, I wasn't sure... it has a kind of funky look to it, with a deeply recessed lens. But -- I'm really liking it so far. The images are sharp, and the AF is fast. I think this could be the start of a very nice relationship... What I wonder is this: what am I missing out on because of my shopping cart mix-up? (Besides the price difference...) I'm not sure I understand the difference between the DFA FA designations... Are there other features of either lens that I should consider before I declare this one a keeper? Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: On the other hand, the FA probably feels a lot more like a real lens, and you can drop it on the pavement from a fair height without breaking anything, or at least that's true for the similar F-version, which I have (yes, I've tried...) Thanks, Toralf... It does have a pretty solid build, but I think I'll avoid that impact test if at all possible... :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:40 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The D means it's optimized for digital. 1. It has special coatings and a revised /special/ optical design to minimize the faults that digital is err to. (I think this is mostly marketing hype, a good lens is a good lens and makes good photos, a bad lens can still be fun). Interesting. I've often wondered if the special coatings were all that... Thanks for your input. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, The DFA 100mm f2.8 Macro has a 49mm front filter size vs 58mm on the older versions. This might make a difference if you're planning on using a ringflash as 49mm is easier to find. Oooh... ringflash! Now there's something I could use... Not that I have plans to acquire one (or at least, didn't before reading this email), but after a quick google, it looks like they often come with adapters for various filter sizes... Maybe I can still keep my options open with the 58mm filter size? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
The biggest difference in coatings is that the rear surface of the rear lens element is coated to minimize internal reflections between the rear element and the sensor. Film lenses didn't have (or need) this coating, since the film emulsion is not smoothly reflective like the glass filter covering the sensor is. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:40 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The D means it's optimized for digital. 1. It has special coatings and a revised /special/ optical design to minimize the faults that digital is err to. (I think this is mostly marketing hype, a good lens is a good lens and makes good photos, a bad lens can still be fun). Interesting. I've often wondered if the special coatings were all that... Thanks for your input. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
If you want to play with one, I've got one you can borrow. I don't use it much. Let me know before a club meeting and I'll bring it in for you. I've got the Sunpak 8R, and it has 49, 55, and 58mm adapters (along with the native 52mm on the ring). On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, The DFA 100mm f2.8 Macro has a 49mm front filter size vs 58mm on the older versions. This might make a difference if you're planning on using a ringflash as 49mm is easier to find. Oooh... ringflash! Now there's something I could use... Not that I have plans to acquire one (or at least, didn't before reading this email), but after a quick google, it looks like they often come with adapters for various filter sizes... Maybe I can still keep my options open with the 58mm filter size? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: thoughts on 100mm macro...?
Thanks, David! I just might take you up on that offer at some point... On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:33 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to play with one, I've got one you can borrow. I don't use it much. Let me know before a club meeting and I'll bring it in for you. I've got the Sunpak 8R, and it has 49, 55, and 58mm adapters (along with the native 52mm on the ring). On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, The DFA 100mm f2.8 Macro has a 49mm front filter size vs 58mm on the older versions. This might make a difference if you're planning on using a ringflash as 49mm is easier to find. Oooh... ringflash! Now there's something I could use... Not that I have plans to acquire one (or at least, didn't before reading this email), but after a quick google, it looks like they often come with adapters for various filter sizes... Maybe I can still keep my options open with the 58mm filter size? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
