RE: Re: Duesenberry

2002-03-08 Thread Davies, Daniel


It is curious how little notice Duesnberry's book is given.  For mine, it
destroys the whole neo-classical analysis once and for all.  (One of many
such
destructions that have had no discernible result.) 

Only in so far as the NCs believe their own hype regarding the status of
neoclassical economics as an axiomatic theory based on von
Neumann/Morgenstern utility theory.  Most of the important results of
neoclassical economics were derived utterly independently of this
axiomatisation and don't depend on any homoeconomicus assumption, for all
that both defenders and critics say that they do.  Might I second Michael's
endorsement of Machine Dreams by Philip Mirsowski on this subject; I've
just started reading it and it's fantastic.

dd


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Re: Re: FW: Bell-curve racism for nations

2002-03-08 Thread Eugene Coyle

Sabri, thanks for making me laugh out loud!

Gene Coyle

Sabri Oncu wrote:

 Michael writes:

  Sabri, please be more respectful of Dr. Rushton.  He will
  probably win the Nobel Prize or even imortatlity, I believe,
  for having discovered the inverse relation between IQ and
  penis size.

 Hey,

 I always wondered why my IQ is so low. Now I know!..

 Sabri




RE: Re: Re: FW: Bell-curve racism for nations

2002-03-08 Thread Devine, James

  Sabri, please be more respectful of Dr. Rushton.  He will
  probably win the Nobel Prize or even imortatlity, I believe,
  for having discovered the inverse relation between IQ and
  penis size.

this explains why women are so smart.
JD




steel war and globalization

2002-03-08 Thread Romain Kroes




n°9, 
08-03-02___http://www.edu-irep.org

"guerre de l’acier", ou limite de la 
"mondialisation"?
"Steel war", or limit of 
"globalization"?
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Veneziani, Roemer, Marx

2002-03-08 Thread Charles Brown

Veneziani, Roemer,  Marx
by Devine, James

Jim D.:Marx's definition of what he meant by capitalism took an
entire volume. His understanding of accumulation takes even more (e.g., the
last part of vol. III). This is tragic, of course, since Marx never finished
volumes II and III or the book on wage-labor. 

^^^

CB: The above is contained in a very edifying discussion and debate statement, which I 
appreciate Jim giving. But just to show I have my critical cap on

Would Marx want us to think we have some kind of almost perfect theory of the laws of 
development of capitalism and capitalist production, as if with it we could reform 
capitalism as capitalism ?  Isn't one of Marx's basic points that it is anarchic and 
unpredictable in essential features, and only remediable by socialist revolution and 
organization based on social forethought, as Chris B. puts it , planning, public 
property ? Doesn't Marx have to be read not only as a whole in all volumes of 
_Capital_, but the whole of his writings,  _The Manifesto of the CP_, The 
Internationale's memoes and activities, etc. ? Marx would certainly be a PEN-L 
miserbalist, wouldn't he , Doug ?




Re: Marx vs. Roemer

2002-03-08 Thread Charles Brown

Re: Marx vs. Roemer
by Justin Schwartz
07 March 2002 20:07 UTC 


Says who? But in short, the main two things where I think R improves on Marx 
is to to insist (a) that a coherent and defensible notion of exploitation 
has to be defined in terms of a superior alternative; Marx was wrong not to 
want to write recipes for the cookshops of the future and

^^^

CB: I take it you mean that a coherent and defensible notion of exploitation AS 
SOMETHING THAT IS WRONG WITH CAPITALISM must be opposed by Marx with a superior 
socialist alternative. So, you this is a sort of philosophical version of Thatcherite 
TINA.  Seems something of an overstatement to say that Marx didn't give us very 
important elements of communism: no state, no war, no poverty. That's an enormously 
superior alternative to capitalism as it has actually existed.




 (b) that the labor 
theory of value, in the form Marx uses it, is indefensible


^
CB: Indefensible from what ?  Everytime you raise some attack , it has been very 
readily refuted. The whole discussion of doubly free labor,  labor as a commodity, 
labor as the source of all new value  stands up in the face of what you say. You 
haven't raised any successful arguments against Marx's law of value, and whole theory 
of value. 



and should be 
scrapped;


^


 the notion of exploitation should be reconstructed without it. I 
don't agree with hwo Roemer does that. My own version of the reconstruction 
(which I attribute, insofaras the text will allow, to Marx himself) is in my 
paper What's Wrong with Exploitation, which you have. As far as that goes, I 
have morethan discharged any burden of proof I may have.



CB: OK, The last time I started to raise more specifics of your paper you ended the 
discussion ( I copy some of the posts below). You can't summarily assert the validity 
of your critique if you are not going to  allow specific extended discussion of your 
text. When I started that with your paper in front of me, you ended the thread. What's 
up on that ? I mean you can summarily assert said validity, but it is a fake move not 
to discuss the specifics of your paper. Now a few of the concepts have come out here 
and there over many discussions, so some of what you have said has been responded to 
here. I have not yet seen a point where Marx did not seem to have the better of the 
disagreement with you. I will address the specifics of your paper, but it is shell 
game to refuse to discuss it. 

I have put papers I have written on this list, in case you want to say I am not 
willing to discuss my own papers. I'll send any and all of my articles for critique if 
you want to put me on the hot seat. I'm not saying they are on the exact same subject, 
I am just saying this is not an issue of me not willing to put my writing out on the 
table where it can be critcized while expecting you to do it.

PRIOR POSTS
Historical Materialism
by Justin Schwartz
03 February 2002 04:25 UTC  




CB: Before you get to that, isn't the burden on you to demonstrate that the 
theory alternative to Marx's explains what Marx's theory does ?  Justin and 
the AM's haven't quite proven that to everybody yet.



Well, Marx and Engels collected writings are 50 volumes.

^^^

CB: Yes, but more conscious of the need to unite theory and practice than most 
intelligentsia, they made a lot of effort to state their whole theory in much smaller 
statements' then their whole body of work.

^^



 However, I think 
I've made a tolerable start by showing how Marx's theory of exploitation, 
the core of Capital I, can be resttaed without the LTV (this in my two 
papers on exploitation), and by sketching how the theory of commodity 
fetishim, the core of Marx's mature theory of ideology, can also be 
statedwithout it (this in The Paradox of ideology). The papers are available 
on line, and I think you have copies, Charles. 

^^^

CB: Yes, I am reviewing them again now. And of course , we have discussed these issues 
before when they came around on the merrygo round of this group of related lists. ( 
Hope the merry go round does go past before I finish something worth saying this time).

^

So, since I put some years 
into doing that, the ball is now in your court to show how I have failed. 

^

CB: Well, I'll take up the volley, although have commented repeatedly over the years 
of our exchange, for example on the equality/liberty issues.  I got  The Paradox of 
Ideology  from you almost ten years ago now, in regular mail correspondence. Your 
arguments are thick, in the sense a lot packed tight, so it rather than trying to 
discuss every issue that comes to my mind, I have tried to make comments on specific 
statements, to initiate an exchange.  One question I had on the paradox of ideology is 
that I don't think Marx and Engels fold all theory into ideology in the pejorative 
sense that they use it in _The German Ideology_ and elsewhere. So, that the theory of 

Re: Re: What Does Ravi Think?

2002-03-08 Thread ravi

Charles Jannuzi wrote:
 I wasn't so much interested in  streaming technology (so far from what I've
 seen of it, I wish most of it would go away).
 

you have a problem with porn? ;-) i meantion porn because they are at 
this point the only business that is making money through streaming. 
there is the success story of nakednews.com, but various other live 
cam and other such streaming services are drawing in and retaining 
audience willing to pay $35/month and more.


 One point was that the US
 gov't still fosters start-up technology through DARPA and In-Q-Tel. People
 marvel over US high tech companies, but key government contracts are often
 what sustains them before there is some sort of perceived trend in which
 regulated capital piles in.


i would agree with that entirely. the only exceptions are non-innovative 
startups (such as those that sell old products on a new medium: web 
sites) and probably a few that managed to use star power and other such 
factors to start off cash rich (transmeta, with linus torvalds on their 
team, is probably a good example, though i am not sure how original the 
research behind their product is).

apart from DARPA, there are other federal and state grants that fund 
technology innovation. NIST for instance has a fairly large grant they 
offer for technology companies. here in NJ, the state govt has a similar 
  grant, albeit smaller.


 Also, if you go back to the overall thrust of the 'innovations' thread, my
 hunch was that venture/vulture capital was swarming all over tech groupings,
 but not to pile on  a bubble. Rather, if you look closely at the investing
 and deals these groups do, it's about either moving in on the distressed
 companies once a bubble has burst OR by being ahead of a bubble because of
 the political access they have--which gives them key information about
 deregulation and liberalization regimes being forced on countries
 everywhere.
 
 The worst aspect of this is how it almost singularly favors private, closely
 held, unregulated US equity groups, such as Carlyle Group, Ripplewood
 Holdings, Lonestar, and, until recently, Enron's 'private, offshore' side
 (there are two huge groups coming out of France, nothing much of size from
 Japan since Softbank has hit the skids).


while you are probably right about investors such as the carlyle group, 
with deep connections into the govt (and the old political processes), 
my own experience suggests that the generalization about VCs, during the 
1998-2000 bubble, holds. i am afraid my point might be naive: the trend 
i saw during the internet bubble, in terms of VC investment, was that 
the successful/smart VCs helped create a bubble around an investment, 
helping take it to IPO, at which point they cashed out (see NEA, battery 
ventures, oak, kliner-perkins, etc). the less smart ones attempted much 
the same, but with lesser success.

--ravi




RE: another job

2002-03-08 Thread Forstater, Mathew

This should be interesting.  Stockton is near the beach in South Jersey.
In addition to Deb Figart, Paul Lyons is there.  He wrote, among other
things, _Philadelphia Communists, 1936-1956_ (Temple U. Press).  Before
he went to Stockton, he was my high school teacher (courses in
Communism and Marx and Psychoanalysis--those were the days!).

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To URPE Members and Friends:

Sent by: Deb Figart [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Friends,

I will be on sabbatical for 2002-2003 and Stockton is hiring a 1-year
replacement.  The courses to be taught are flexible/negotiable, but
would likely include some principles.  Teaching load is 3-3.  If you
would like to be considered, please send your C.V. and cover letter to
my Dean (address below) as soon as possible.  We will narrow the pool
the week of March 18th.  I am so sorry about the short notice (that's
another long story).

Apply to:

Will Jaynes
Dean, Social  Behavioral Sciences
Richard Stockton College
PO Box 195
Pomona, NJ 08240-0195
USA



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Re: Re: Marx vs. Roemer

2002-03-08 Thread Justin Schwartz


Marx was wrong not to
want to write recipes for the cookshops of the future and

^^^

CB: I take it you mean that a coherent and defensible notion of 
exploitation AS SOMETHING THAT IS WRONG WITH CAPITALISM must be opposed by 
Marx with a superior socialist alternative. So, you this is a sort of 
philosophical version of Thatcherite TINA.

No, it;s the obverse of TINA. TINA is ana rgument for capitalism. To refute 
it, you have to show TIAA.

  Seems something of an overstatement to say that Marx didn't give us very 
important elements of communism: no state, no war, no poverty. That's an 
enormously superior alternative to capitalism as it has actually existed.



No, anyone can list a pie in the sky story about hwo wonderful things will 
be if only. What is need to show TIAA is to specidy the institiuonal 
structure in outlinew ithout enough detail to answer plausible objections. 
If it won't work in theory,w hy think it will work in practice?




  (b) that the labor
theory of value, in the form Marx uses it, is indefensible


^
CB: Indefensible from what ?  Everytime you raise some attack , it has 
been very readily refuted. The whole discussion of doubly free labor,  
labor as a commodity, labor as the source of all new value  stands up in 
the face of what you say. You haven't raised any successful arguments 
against Marx's law of value, and whole theory of value.


I don't awntto get into this. Obviously I don;t agree, and you won't agree, 
so let's leave it, eh? I see no point in spinning our wheels on this one.


When I started that with your paper in front of me, you ended the thread. 
What's up on that ? I mean you can summarily assert said validity, but it is 
a fake move not to discuss the specifics of your paper. Now a few of the 
concepts have come out here and there over many discussions, so some of what 
you have said has been responded to here. I have not yet seen a point where 
Marx did not seem to have the better of the disagreement with you. I will 
address the specifics of your paper, but it is shell game to refuse to 
discuss it.


Pose me a specific question, and if I ahve the energy and inclination, i 
will try to answer it.

I alsoo lookeda t those exchanges, and I don't read them as evasive or 
refusing to answer any concrete question.

I'm not going to do another round on the LTV, though, I've said my say, I 
haven't a lot to add to what I've said, I'm not real interested in the 
point. I've heard y'all's say, we're each not convinced. That's life, let's 
move on.

Note that in WWWE the LTV is only indirectly a  target of my atatck: I 
didn't, except in a footnote, argue aaht it was wrong, just that Marx could 
get along without it. That a a version of the redundancy theory.

jks

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capitalism's predictability.

2002-03-08 Thread Devine, James

[was: RE: [PEN-L:23698] Veneziani, Roemer,  Marx] 

Charles B: Would Marx want us to think we have some kind of almost perfect
theory of the laws of development of capitalism and capitalist production,
as if with it we could reform capitalism as capitalism ?

if you're going to put on your critical cap, I'll have to get out my Ouija
board and organize a seance to find out what Marx would want. 

But I don't know what Marx would want, while posing the question that way
seems a distraction from a serious discussion of reform vs. revolution
issues. I'm not going to talk about what Marx would think: instead, I'll
give my own opinions. 

Isn't one of Marx's basic points that it is anarchic and unpredictable in
essential features,  and only remediable by socialist revolution and
organization based on social forethought, as Chris B. puts it , planning,
public property ? Doesn't Marx have to be read not only as a whole in all
volumes of _Capital_, but the whole of his writings,  _The Manifesto of the
CP_, The Internationale's memoes and activities, etc. ? ... 

(1) Capitalism is fundamentally unpredictable, but I would say that there's
some predictability to it nonetheless. It's like with the law of large
numbers: even though individual actions are almost impossible to predict,
the average can be predictable. More specifically, capitalism (as far as I
can tell) has an inherent tendency toward over-accumulation crises, i.e., to
go too far even when too far is measured using capitalist criteria such as
the aggregate average profit rate. (In other words, capitalists often foul
their own nest -- a nest we have little choice but to live in -- in a way
that sometimes seen in the form of a depression of the rate of profit.) Of
course, the actual form of over-accumulation crises depends on specific
historical conditions.

(2) The anarchy of production is just one structural problem that's inherent
in capitalism. Another is the aggressive competition amongst capitals (a
related issue, but not the same as the anarchy of production). (It's
possible that something like that might show up in a different form in a
planned system, e.g., as competition amongst state bureaucrats. Maybe that
had something to do with the blood purges in the USSR in the 1930s and
after.) More important is the structural antagonism between the two main
classes. A fully socialist revolution would get rid of all of these
structural tensions, replacing anarchy, competition, and class with
democracy.

This is a big issue. I'm afraid I'm going to have to restrict my
participation in further discussons of this thread, since my Spring break is
drawing to a close. 

Jim Devine




Re: Re: Re: What Does Ravi Think?

2002-03-08 Thread ravi

i wrote:
 
 while you are probably right about investors such as the carlyle group, 
 with deep connections into the govt (and the old political processes), 
 my own experience suggests that the generalization about VCs, during the 
 1998-2000 bubble, holds.
 


ack! i meant does not hold.

--ravi




Re: Re: Re: Re: Question Romain K.

2002-03-08 Thread Romain Kroes


- Original Message -
From: Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 12:45 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:23661] Re: Re: Re: Question Romain K.




 Romain Kroes wrote:
 
  Because historical materialism has become a label.

 I don't get it. Literary Criticism has become a label. Frying Bacon
 has become a label. We still don't usually put them in scare quotes.



I don't think that Literary Criticism nor Frying Bacon can be understood
in many meanings, even for people who never consumed literature nor bacon.
As for Historical Materialism, what does it mean for people who have not
read Preface to a Contribution to a Critique of Political Economy nor
Anti-Dühring? Only one thing: it is one label of marxist philosophy, with
Dialectical Materialism which is as absconse as the former, in the eyes of
anybody having not read a marxist book. Unless they understand history of
materialism or an historical event the name of which should be
materialism, you name the next.
Additionally, the very meaning of historical materialism is a pure
esotericism. Example:
This fixation of social activity, this consolidation of what we ourselves
produce into an objective power above us, growing out of our control,
thwarting our expectations, bringing to naught our calculations, is one of
the chief factors in historical development up till now. (German
ideology).

Regards,
RK




RE: Re: Re: Marx vs. Roemer

2002-03-08 Thread Devine, James

 No, it;s the obverse of TINA. TINA is ana rgument for 
 capitalism. To refute 
 it, you have to show TIAA.

Well, I can show you TIAA. In fact, I can show you CREF.

(They are parts of my retirement package.)

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: Re: Re: Marx vs. Roemer

2002-03-08 Thread Michael Perelman

Please do not let flame wars from other lists spill into this thread.

By the way, I suspect that the thread will not prove to be very
productive.  You cannot prove Marx, the Labor Theory of Value, or
Neoclassical economics to be wrong.  You can show an inconsistency, but
mostly the inconsistencies have to do with setting up a straw man.  Of
course, Marx never finished capital and does have some inconsistencies
around the edges, but they are not really central to his theory.
 -- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
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Fwd: Moslem Migrants/Chicago Tribune

2002-03-08 Thread Mohammad Maljoo




From: behzad yaghmaian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Moslem Migrants/Chicago Tribune
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 07:58:32 -0500

Hi Folks,

I wanted to share with you an Op-ED piece I recently published in Chicago 
Tribune about migration to the West from Moslem countries.  Be well. Behzad


Migration of Muslims to West will continue
Chicago Tribune; Chicago, Ill.; Feb 28, 2002; Behzad Yaghmaian, Associate 
professor of Economics, Ramapo College of New Jersey;

Abstract:
The Sept. 11 tragedy changed the world of migration. Combating terrorism and 
halting illegal migration coincided. A new enemy was created--Muslim 
migrants from the Middle East and North Africa. They were potential 
terrorists. They had to be kept out.
Borders were closed. New walls were erected. The West closed its gates to 
migrants from the region. But the underlying causes of the migration of 
Muslims to the West persist. Thousands continue to venture into the 
dangerous journey of migration with the hope of finding salvation in the 
West. They flee war, political conflict, poverty and the hellish life under 
Islamic fundamentalism.

Full Text:
(Copyright 2002 by the Chicago Tribune)


The Sept. 11 tragedy changed the world of migration. Combating terrorism and 
halting illegal migration coincided. A new enemy was created--Muslim 
migrants from the Middle East and North Africa. They were potential 
terrorists. They had to be kept out. Borders were closed.  New walls were 
erected. The West closed its gates to migrants from the region. But the 
underlying causes of the migration of Muslims to the
West persist. Thousands continue to venture into the dangerous journey of 
migration with the hope of finding salvation in the West. They flee war, 
political conflict, poverty and the hellish life under Islamic 
fundamentalism.

For many, international migration is the only escape from the cultural and 
political violence of fundamentalism. Plagued by unending wars and 
sociopolitical instability, and driven away from the possibility of a life 
of peace at home, many have become voyagers in search of survival in faraway 
lands. This seems to be the story of most Iraqi, Afghani and Kurdish 
migrants caught behind borders in the West.

Devastated by war and political violence, millions have also been subject to 
destructive economic changes beyond their control: the globalization of 
economics and culture. Displacement and migration have been the result. The 
introduction of market relations and the transformation of subsistence 
economies have changed the nature of work in many countries. Millions have 
joined the ranks of wage laborers, swelling the labor force in most urban 
areas.

In the past 30 years, the labor force increased by 176 percent in the Middle 
East and North Africa. The unprecedented increase in the labor force has not 
been matched by a growth in job creation and improvement in the standard of 
living. High unemployment rates persist in most countries in the Middle East 
and North Africa. Poverty has been on the rise in many countries in the 
region.

Intoxicated by the flashy images of the West, a large number of socially 
aspiring and culturally adventurous young men and women have joined the 
ranks of migrants in recent years. They, too, flee home for a better world.

The recent migratory movement of young Iranians is a telling example of this 
development. The Iranian youth echo the inner aspirations of millions of 
young people across the Muslim world--a desire for life with dignity, 
freedom and the possibility of work with livable pay.

There seems to be no reversal of the existing migration flow to the West 
from the Middle East and North Africa in the near future. A growing number 
of displaced Muslim men, women and children will be facing closed borders in 
Europe. The result will be increased clandestine border crossings, desperate 
use of more dangerous routes and methods of migration, exploitation and 
abuse by smugglers and human traffickers, and death. A policy revision is 
necessary to stop this human drama.



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Re: Re: Against existing socialist contry

2002-03-08 Thread miychi

 Comrade Waistline

Thank you your reply
I will carefully consider your comments and my inaccurate grasp you point
out.
Please give me some times to respond your comment.
Thank you again.




Re: Marx vs. Roemer

2002-03-08 Thread John Ernst

Question to Roemer readers:



If we assume that the LTV and/or the LOV is, at best, redundant, does
the concept of total social labor exist in a quantative form?  In other
words, without Marx's notion of value, how can one add up labor time?
Or, do we just add up concrete labor hours and say that's that.  Or do
we just dismiss the notion as 19th Century nonsense?  


 thanks




BLS Daily Report

2002-03-08 Thread Richardson_D

BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 6, 2002:

RELEASED TODAY:  In January, most regional and state unemployment rates
either declined or were little changed over the month, but were higher than
a year earlier, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports.  The national
jobless rate decreased to 5.6 percent in January.  Nonfarm employment
increased in 30 states. (Employment and unemployment data for Michigan, and
therefore the East North Central division and the Midwest region, were not
available at the time of release).

Several state legislatures approved major changes in workers' compensation
laws during 2001, including coverage of security personnel in the recent
Winter Olympic games, according to an article in the Bureau of Labor
Statistics' January Monthly Labor Review.  BLS economist Glenn Whittington
describes state coverage changes, as well as increases in some benefits
levels.  The article provides a state-by-state summary of last year's
significant changes in workers' compensation laws (Daily Labor Report, page
A-2; article in E-1).

William C. Barron, acting director of the U.S. Census Bureau, will retire
this summer after 34 years as a federal employee to accept a one-year
appointment as a professor at Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School
of Public and International Affairs.  Most of his career was spent at the
Bureau of Labor Statistics, and for 15 years Barron was deputy commissioner
of labor statistics.  In 1998, Barron, 56, left BLS to become deputy
undersecretary of commerce to oversee planning and budgeting for the 2000
Census.  He became deputy director of the Census Bureau in May 1999 and then
acting director when Kenneth Prewitt resigned in January 2001. (The
Washington Post, page A17).

Orders to U.S. factories rose by 1.6 percent in January, lifted by stronger
demand for cars, computers and machinery, providing new evidence that the
battered manufacturing sector is turning a corner.  The advance followed a
0.7 percent rise in December and was the third increase in the last 4
months, the Commerce Department reported today.  A host of recent economic
reports has indicted the recession, which began in March 2001, has probably
ended and will be recorded as one of the mildest in U.S. history (Jeannine
Aversa, Associated Press,
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-020406econ.story).

If you were one of the 7.9 million Americans looking for work in January,
there's probably very little doubt in your mind that the economy was -- or
at least had been -- in a recession.  But for the 141.4 million who never
lost their jobs, this recession may have come and gone so quickly that they
didn't even notice (Jeannine Aversa, Associated Press,
http://www.nandotimes.com/business/story/286012p-2561158c.html).

If this recession has now ended -- as most economists, including Federal
Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan apparently think -- then there will be a
supreme irony in its passing.  What has transfixed Americans these past few
years has been the so-called New Economy, with its dazzling technologies,
its visions of instant riches, and its astronomical stock market
valuations, writes Robert J. Samuelson in The Washington Post (page A19).
But spending on housing, automobiles, furniture, toys, fast food, physicians
and dentists -- almost every thing that is routine and unrevolutionary --
has rescued the economy from the collapsed investment in telecom networks
and dot-com and from the depressing effects of fallen stock prices.
Samuelson quotes Susan Sterne of Economic Analysis Associates as saying
this consumer recession was almost entirely a travel recession --
terrorism's aftershock.  Luggage sales declined 2.1 percent; hotel and motel
spending was down 12.7 percent.  Greenspan said he expected any recovery to
be subdued.

New York City lost far more jobs last year than anyone (except maybe the
unemployed) realized:  almost 36,000 more than the state's original estimate
of 96,500, according to a new tally released yesterday by the State
Department of Labor. The new data, which have been revised to reflect
information from corporate unemployment tax filings, show that the city lost
132,400 jobs last year, up by one-third from the Labor Department's original
estimate.  The drop is the steepest since 1991, which was the worse year of
the recession that lasted from 1989 through 1992.  Most of the loss reflects
the economic aftershocks of the attack on the World Trade Center.  But the
new data also show that the national recession hit New York's services
sector slightly earlier, and a lot harder, than economists realized.  But
there were some bright spots in the data.  For one thing, the number of jobs
on Wall Street last year was revised upward by 10,000, to 175,500 (The New
York Times, page A21).

With corporate profits and many stock prices down, pay for the chief
executives of large companies fell slightly last year, according to a survey
by Pearl Meyer  Partners, an 

BLS Daily Report

2002-03-08 Thread Richardson_D

BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, MARCH 7, 2002:

RELEASED TODAY:  The Bureau of Labor Statistics today reported revised
fourth-quarter seasonally-adjusted annual rates of productivity change -- as
measured by output per hour of all persons -- and revised annual changes for
the full year 2001.  Percent changes in business and nonfarm business
productivity were: Business sector, 5.1 for the fourth quarter; 1.9 annual
average, 2000-2001; nonfarm business sector, 5.2 for the fourth quarter, 1.9
annual average, 2000-2001.  In both sectors, fourth-quarter productivity was
higher than originally reported due to upward revisions to the output
measures.  In the manufacturing sector, increases in productivity were:
Manufacturing sector, 4.1 percent for the fourth quarter, 1.1 annual average
2000-2001;
Durable goods manufacturing sector, 2.7 percent fourth quarter, 0.5 annual
average 2000-2001; nondurable goods manufacturing, 5.2 fourth quarter, 1.6
annual average 2000-2001.

The productivity of U.S. workers rocketed past expectations in the final 3
months of last year to post the biggest increase since the second quarter of
2000, the government said today.  The Labor Department said productivity, or
worker output of goods and services per hour outside the farm sector, rose
at a 5.2 percent annual rate in the fourth quarter, revised upward from an
initial estimate of 3.5 percent.  The increase surpassed analysts'
expectations for a 4.5 percent rise (Reuters,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53802-2002Mar7.html).

Unemployment rates decreased in 26 states in January, the Bureau of Labor
Statistics reports.  North Dakota reported the lowest unemployment rate for
the ninth consecutive month, 2.8 percent.  Oregon and Washington reported
the highest rates -- 8.0 percent and 7.5 percent, respectively.  No state's
jobless rate has been as high as 8.0 percent since July 1997, BLS says
(Daily Labor Report, page D-1).

The number of American workers lining up for state unemployment benefits
fell last week, the government said today, in a report providing yet more
evidence the U.S. economy is on a firmer footing. In addition, the  4-week
moving average, seen as a more reliable labor market gauge because it
smoothes out weekly fluctuations, dropped to pre-Sept. 11 levels. Layoffs
are heading back down...which makes sense as the economy is turning, said
Jim Glassman, senior economist at J.P. Morgan.  The airline and hotel
industries are getting back on their feet
(http://www.bayarea.com/mld/bayarea/business/2811342.htm).

New claims for unemployment insurance for the work week ending March 2 fell
by a seasonally adjusted 5,000 to 376,000, the Labor Department reports.
Claims peaked last year on September 9 at 535,000, and have remained below
400,000 so far this year. In a separate report today, the Labor Department
said worker productivity grew at an even faster pace in the fourth quarter
of last year than previously indicated.  Productivity, which is the amount
of output per hour of work increased at an annual rate of 5.2 percent in the
October-December quarter.  That compares with the 3.5 percent previously
reported for the quarter. For the entire year, productivity increased just
1.9 percent compared with 3.3 percent in all of 2000 (Leigh Strope,
Associated Press,
http://www.nandotimes.com/business/story/288533p-2572704c.html).

Economic activity remains mixed throughout the country, but a majority of
the Federal Reserve's 12 district banks said there are signs that conditions
have been improving, the central bank reports.  Although the labor markets
have continued to soften in most districts, the tone of the Federal
Reserve's latest Beige Book report suggests that activity in the retail,
manufacturing and banking sectors was bottoming out. Some of the most
encouraging signs have come from retailers in the Philadelphia, Atlanta, and
Kansas City districts, who reported that sales were higher in early 2002
than they were a year ago (Daily Labor Report, page D-9; The Washington
Post, page E2; The New York Times, page C1; The Wall Street Journal, page
A2; USA Today, page 3B; Reuters,
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2002-03-06-beige-book.htm).

As the recovery builds, the less educated go to the end of the employment
line, says Alan B. Krueger, Bendheim Professor of Economics and Public
Affairs, Princeton University, and editor of The Journal of Economic
Perspectives in The New York Times (page C2).  He points out that when Fed
Chairman Alan Greenspan, who will appear before the Senate Banking Committee
today, commented on the possibility of the end of the recession, he did not
mention that the lingering effects of high unemployment early in a recovery
tend to be concentrated among the unskilled and minorities.  This is true
even though recessions are becoming more egalitarian.  An accompanying graph
shows that in the early part of the latest recession, job prospects
deteriorated more for 

BLS Daily Report

2002-03-08 Thread Richardson_D

BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, MARCH 8, 2002:

RELEASED TODAY:  The unemployment rate was essentially unchanged at 5.5
percent in February, the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department
of Labor reported today. Nonfarm payroll employment was up by 66,000 in
February, following several months of large job losses. February gains in
several industries, however, can be attributed to special factors.
Manufacturing employment continued to decline, although at a slower pace.

The rapid turnaround in the U.S. economy reached the nation's job market
last month as payroll employment rose for the first time in seven months,
the jobless rate ticked down and the number of industries adding workers
continued to rise, the Labor Department reported today. After digging into
the details of today's report, a number of analysts said the unemployment
rate might well increase again somewhat in coming months as employers
concentrate on using their current employees more intensively in order to
hold down costs and boost profits. Meanwhile, the increase in average hourly
earnings of workers has slowed, the department said. Last month hourly
earnings rose two cents to $14.63. That was 3.7 percent higher than the
figure a year ago and the smallest increase for a 12-month period since that
ending in September 2000.  (http://www.washingtonpost.com) 

The nation's unemployment rate unexpectedly slipped to 5.5 percent in
February as businesses, after slashing payrolls for six straight months,
added 66,000 new workers. It was the strongest signal yet that the country's
first recession in a decade is over. The Labor Department reported Friday
that the jobless rate dropped by 0.1 percentage point in February to the
lowest level since October. Before the report was released, private
economists had been looking for the jobless rate to rise by 0.1 percentage
point. The addition of 66,000 jobs during the month followed losses that had
averaged 146,000 a month since the recession started in March 2001. It was
the largest payroll increase since February 2001. In the jobs report, the
largest increases last month occurred in retail, though Labor Department
economists stressed caution in interpreting the numbers as a sign of
strength in that industry. Retail businesses added 58,000 jobs in February.
Large seasonal layoffs always occur in retailing in January and February
following the holiday-season buildup. But holiday hiring last year was well
below normal, so there were fewer workers to lay off.
(http://www.boston.com)

Economists had forecast an unemployment rate of 5.8 percent and little
change in payrolls, according to Briefing.com. The report was especially
surprising because the unemployment rate typically lags the rest of the
economy, worsening even as the economy recovers because businesses usually
delay hiring until they're convinced a rebound is underway. The unemployment
rate also fell in January, but some economists attributed the drop to a
shrinking labor force, since it seemed some workers had stopped looking for
jobs, taking themselves out of the labor force. But the labor force grew by
821,000 in February, making the drop in the unemployment rate much more
meaningful. What's more, the number of people who still want a job but
haven't looked for one in four weeks - meaning they're no longer counted as
part of the labor force - fell by 449,000. But some economists still were
hesitant to read too much into the report, expressing skepticism that the
labor market could possibly be bouncing back so soon. (http://cnn.com)

Nonfarm business productivity increased at an annual rate of 5.2 percent in
the fourth quarter of 2001 because of upward revisions to the output
measures, according to revised figures released March 7 by the Labor
Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics. The increase was much stronger than
economists had expected in the midst of a recession. In testimony before the
Senate Banking Committee, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said the
revised fourth quarter productivity numbers were suspiciously too strong.
The surprisingly strong fourth quarter gain was not only remarkably robust,
but very unlikely, Greenspan said. But if you smooth out fluctuations in
the data over the long term, you will see that fundamental changes have
occurred that will allow productivity to continue to grow at a faster rate
than it did in the 1980s and early 1990s, he said. (Daily Labor Report, page
D-1)

U.S. workers and companies are emerging from the economic contraction leaner
and more productive than earlier thought, according to new data from the
Labor Department.  Nonfarm productivity--a measure of output per hour
worked-- grew by an annualized 5.2 percent in the final three months of
2001, up from a previous estimate of 3.5 percent, the department said. For
all of 2001, productivity grew by 1.9 percent, down from 3.3 percent in 2000
and 2.6 percent in the late 1990s, but still regarded by economists as 

Veneziani on Roemer, Marx, and Skillman

2002-03-08 Thread Devine, James

Concerning the thread with a similar name to the title of this message,
Roberto Veneziani sends me the following comments  corrections (which I've
renumbered):

[begin quote]
1) I agree that price = value is only fairness in exchange and that this is
Roemer's and not Marx's view. I have tried to clarify this in the new
version. All references to value pricing as fair pricing have been
eliminated. 

2) Your summary of the main conclusions of the paper is perfect, except on
one issue, namely that Roemer's story of exploitation self-destructs ...
due to accumulation, including worker's accumulation (your message). I
agree that in accumulation models or in a subsistence economy with non-zero
savings Roemer's theory breaks down immediately. (Roemer himself
acknowledged the knife-edge properties of his accumulation models.) You have
forcefully shown this in your paper with Prof. Dymski, and I did not want to
just provide mathematical clothes to your convincing logical and economic
argument. My point is that even in the most favourable case to Roemer's
theory, i.e. in an interior Reproducible Solution with NO SAVINGS and NO
ACCUMULATION [in short, in a solution with no savings] the theory does not
work. I think this result is rather strong because it falsifies Roemer's
claim (in his reply to your EP critique) that his models prove that DOPA
[the differential ownership of productive assets, i.e., wealth inequality]
is logically primary and exploitation and classes emerge prior to
accumulation, etc. And it falsifies the claim at what he considers to be the
relevant level of abstraction.

3) Given that my results obtain only thanks to the POSSIBILITY of savings,
and with no actual savings by either capitalists or workers, they do not
undermine Marx's vol.I/ch.25 argument. These results only undermine
microfounded - analytical marxist - models, by showing that they are
unable to model Marxian exploitation as a persistent phenomenon, and raise
doubts about Roemer's narrow definition of exploitation and classes.
Actually, as shown in an unpublished paper by Prof. Skillman, if the
Walrasian framework is retained, the only way to have persistent
exploitation is to assume that agents have different time preferences,
i.e. the typical result of neoclassical models, where differences in wealth
are due to differences in preferences.
[end quote]

[My comment:] if persistent exploitation is based on different classes
having different time preferences, we have returned to the theory that Marx
was attacking in his discussion of primitive accumulation and other
matters, i.e., that the rich are rich because they are forward-thinking,
while the poor are poor because they are short-sighted.

Roberto says that he may be joining pen-l soon.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http:/bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine 
Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. -- Richard Feynman.




RE: Krugman on Steel

2002-03-08 Thread Devine, James

It's interesting that a foreign-tradefinance expert like PK never mentions
that a lot of the steel industry's problems recently have been due to the
steep appreciation of the dollar (relative to its biggest trading partners)
since 1995. 

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
 
 [no mention of the 'Mexico' bailout as a form of
 protectionism...]
 
 [NYTimes]
 March 8, 2002
 Testing His Metal
 By PAUL KRUGMAN
 Just a few days ago, some supporters of George W. Bush hoped
 that he would show his mettle by standing up to steel industry
 demands for tariff protection. Instead he capitulated, with a
 cravenness that surprised even his critics.
 
 It's quite a contrast with Bill Clinton, who - like Mr. Bush -
 declared his belief in the benefits of free trade, but - unlike
 Mr. Bush - was willing to spend a lot of political capital in
 support of that belief. Many Democrats are protectionists, so
 Mr. Clinton reached out for Republican support to pass both the
 North American Free Trade Agreement and the treaty creating the
 World Trade Organization. He defied intense bipartisan
 opposition to rescue Mexico from its 1995 financial crisis,
 which might have destroyed Nafta, and resisted pressure to limit
 imports, including steel imports, during the Asian financial
 crisis of 1997-1998.
 
 It's possible that Mr. Clinton's determination to do what he
 believed was right on international trade cost the Democrats the
 White House - not just because West Virginia's electoral votes
 provided Mr. Bush with his winning margin, but because Mr.
 Clinton's free-trade policies fueled Ralph Nader's spoiler
 campaign.
 
 Now we know for sure what some of us already suspected: that the
 Bush administration is all hat and no cattle when it comes to
 free trade, and probably free markets in general.
 
 Never mind Mr. Bush's claim that his decision to impose high
 tariffs on imported steel was simply a matter of enforcing the
 law. Nothing in U.S. law obliged him to impose tariffs - and
 it's pretty clear that the tariffs violate our international
 trade treaties.
 
 We can also dismiss the claim that this was temporary relief so
 that the industry could restructure itself. Traditional steel
 producers are in long-term decline, the result less of imports
 than of competition from so-called mini-mills, exacerbated by
 the fact that an increasingly service-oriented economy uses far
 less steel per dollar of G.D.P. than it used to. A temporary
 import tariff won't turn this trend around.
 
 True, the steel industry does have a special problem: legacy
 costs, the benefits steel companies promised to retired workers
 in happier days. These costs mean that the failure of major
 companies would cause disproportionate hardship; they also make
 it hard for the industry to reorganize itself, because no
 investor wants to buy a company burdened with huge liabilities.
 
 But economists long ago concluded that import restrictions are
 the wrong way to deal with domestic problems. Such problems
 should, instead, be dealt with at the source - in this case, by
 having the government take over at least some of those
 liabilities. Trying to mitigate the problem with tariffs will be
 far less effective, and will impose a lot of collateral damage.
 As one harsh critic of the administration's action declared,
 tariffs are nothing more than taxes that hurt low- and
 moderate-income people.
 
 Oh, sorry - that wasn't an administration critic. That's what
 Robert Zoellick, Mr. Bush's trade representative, said a few
 weeks before his master decided that protectionism in the
 pursuit of political advantage is no vice.
 
 If Mr. Bush really felt he had to do something for the steel
 industry, why not address the legacy costs? His excuse - that
 such action is up to Congress, not the White House - was, like
 the claim that he was just upholding the law, a weak (and
 characteristic) effort to shift the blame. (Am I the only one
 who thinks of this as the 'Johnny did it!' administration?) The
 real reason, presumably, was that direct help to the industry
 would be an explicit budget item, while the costs of
 protectionism - though far larger - are mostly hidden.
 
 In addition to being bad economics, the steel tariffs are
 terrible diplomacy. Our staunchest allies are outraged:
 Britain's prime minister, Tony Blair, pronounced the move
 unwarranted, unacceptable and wrong. Even before the steel
 verdict, the United States was developing a reputation for
 hypocrisy - ready and willing to criticize others for failing to
 live up to their responsibilities, but unwilling to live up to
 its own. Now that our free-trade rhetoric has proved empty, who
 will listen to our preaching?
 
 Let's be clear: Many Democrats were on the wrong side of the
 steel issue. But it was up to Mr. Bush to show leadership, to
 demonstrate that he really cares about the principles he
 espouses. I guess not.




Re: Re: Marx vs. Roemer

2002-03-08 Thread Justin Schwartz



Question to Roemer readers:


If we assume that the LTV and/or the LOV is, at best, redundant, does
the concept of total social labor exist in a quantative form?  In other
words, without Marx's notion of value, how can one add up labor time?
Or, do we just add up concrete labor hours and say that's that.  Or do
we just dismiss the notion as 19th Century nonsense?



Not at all. I think that Marx's notion of SNALT is a useful one, but it's 
not necesasrily a notion of value, or anyway doesn't exhause the notion. Btw 
it is important to distinguisg between the theses that SNALT is the measure 
of value and that labor is the source of all value. The first is true in a 
limited way; as Roemer among other argues, anything can be the numaire, 
labor, corn, iron. The question, from thsi point of view, is whether it is 
useful or illuminating to use labor as the numaire, and that is where the 
redundancy theory kicks in. The other matter, whether labor is the sole 
source of value, is a different quesion: labor might be the source and not 
the measure (and vice versa). Here I think that labor is _a_ source of 
value, anda  major one. But not the only one. Ina nay case, Marx simply uses 
the first version, and trues tos hwo that using the laboras the measure you 
get interesting results. As to thesecond, hewassumes taht it is true as a 
matter of definition, with only a  passing swipe at subjectivist theories, 
which were underdeveloped in those days.

jks

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the worst is yet to come in Afghanistan?

2002-03-08 Thread Devine, James

History shows that after the war comes the real battle
The US must look to the past to determine Afghanistan's future

Martin Woollacott
Friday March 8, 2002

The Guardian [UK]

It is usually supposed that victory crowns a military campaign. In
Afghanistan it seems to be working out the other way round. The nasty
skirmishes between rival bosses in the regions, the violence that took the
life of a member of the interim authority in Kabul, the very limited reach
of the small international force in the capital, and now the genuine battles
going on with Taliban and al-Qaida forces near Gardez all suggest that much
remains to be done.

Hamid Karzai, the chairman of the authority, may say that the fighters in
the Shahkot mountains are the last isolated base of terrorism in his
country, but such sentiments have been heard before and in any case the
Taliban and al-Qaida are far from being the country's only problems.

Afghanistan always surprises, old hands say. But historically the pattern of
victories followed by hard campaigning has actually been the norm. Just as
in Vietnam, the Americans should have looked at history but on the whole did
not, so they - and other countries - should consult the same lesson book in
Afghanistan. This is not so much a matter of the now rather too often retold
stories of Afghan resistance to invaders as of looking at the general nature
of colonial war.

When the French landed near Algiers in 1830, for example, they were tackling
a problem, the Barbary pirates, not wholly unlike that represented by
al-Qaida. They overwhelmed the dey of Algiers within a month, and pirates of
the maritime kind soon afterwards. Then the hard part began as the French
moved inland. As one French soldier wrote, this time of Indochina, The
pirate - meaning the rebel of any kind - is a plant which grows only on
certain grounds. The land must be enclosed and then sow it with good grain
which is the only means to make it unsuitable to the tares. The French
identified two phases in colonial war, that of the winning of apparently
decisive victories, followed by that of insurrection.

Later, out of difficult experience in north Africa and Indochina,
outstanding commanders such as Louis Hubert Lyautey focused on a third
phase, in which the prime function of their forces was not to fight battles,
although this was sometimes necessary, but to be, in his phrase, an
organisation on the march. French arms were to be exerted to create
markets, expand trade, and build schools, and to reinforce certain strengths
of the indigenous society. In Morocco, Lyautey believed that the opening of
department stores in Casablanca and the holding of a great agricultural fair
there in 1915 were achievements on a par with any of his military successes.

Of course much of the civilising mission was dross, concealing barbarities,
land theft, and a ruthless attitude to the values of the conquered. But the
part that was genuine, in this soldier's version, was the recognition that
if military operations are not part of a comprehensive approach to a
society, they lead nowhere, even if they are technically successful. The
distinction the American government makes between fighting a war and nation
building is the antithesis of this approach. The point that was apparent to
Lyautey and to successful imperial commanders of other nations, if in a
deeply distorted way, was that the two are indivisible.

The debate over the place of outside military force in Afghanistan revolves
around questions Lyautey would have recognised. Do you make extensive use of
auxiliaries because they know the ground and spare you casualties? The
Americans did at Tora Bora, only to find their offers topped, according to
plausible reports, by the Taliban, who paid handsomely to escape the trap. 

Do you take the risks of a country-wide occupation of both a military and
civilian kind or do you depend on what the French would have called
columns, heavily armed expeditions dispatched here and there in response
to emergencies, like the coalition forces now in the Shahkot range? What is
now being reluctantly considered by Britain and other countries, and has
been asked for by Hamid Karzai, is, after all, a dilute form of occupation.

The talk is apparently of doubling the size of the international security
assistance force to 9,000 and deploying it to some but not all of the
regions. Some who have studied the problem think a body with a minimum
strength of 20,000, deployed everywhere, and with ironclad guarantees of
American military support, would be barely sufficient for the task. Mr
Karzai, however, may be more interested in the uses of such a force in the
north, the base area of most of his fellow members of the interim authority,
than in the south and east. That is perhaps because the politics of the
north are in a way more fractious.

The fundamental question raised by the international presence in
Afghanistan, political and military, is to what extent it is either

Fidel vs. the New Economy; More Axis of Evil Ahead?

2002-03-08 Thread Michael Perelman

STUDYING CUBA'S ABILITY USE NET TO DISRUPT U.S.
A senior U.S. government official says that the Bush administration has
begun a review of Cuba's ability to use the Internet to disrupt this
country's military communications or damage other U.S. interests. Last
month, White House technical advisor Richard Clarke told a congressional

subcommittee that if the U.S. is attacked through cyberspace, it could
respond militarily: We reserve the right to respond in any way
appropriate: through covert action, through military action, and any of
the
tools available to the president. (AP/USA Today 7 Mar 2002)
http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/2002/03/07/cuba-cyberattack.htm

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901




Re: Re: Re: Marx vs. Roemer

2002-03-08 Thread Michael Perelman

Justin, I suspect that you merely have a different idea about what value is than
I do.  It does not mean that either of us would be wrong.

Marx, as I read him, is saying that value is a particular social relationship
unique to capitalism; only living labor creates surplus value; dead labor
cannot.  He does not mean that nature is unimportant or that machines do not
have an important place, but that in capitalism, the key relations for him is
what sort of social relations exist under capitalism.

You may read him differently; if so, labor may not be the sole source of value
in your interpretation, but that does not mean that Marx is wrong.

For that reason, I don't see how this debate can lead anywhere.

Justin Schwartz wrote:


 Not at all. I think that Marx's notion of SNALT is a useful one, but it's
 not necesasrily a notion of value, or anyway doesn't exhause the notion. Btw
 it is important to distinguisg between the theses that SNALT is the measure
 of value and that labor is the source of all value. The first is true in a
 limited way; as Roemer among other argues, anything can be the numaire,
 labor, corn, iron. The question, from thsi point of view, is whether it is
 useful or illuminating to use labor as the numaire, and that is where the
 redundancy theory kicks in. The other matter, whether labor is the sole
 source of value, is a different quesion: labor might be the source and not
 the measure (and vice versa). Here I think that labor is _a_ source of
 value, anda  major one. But not the only one. Ina nay case, Marx simply uses
 the first version, and trues tos hwo that using the laboras the measure you
 get interesting results. As to thesecond, hewassumes taht it is true as a
 matter of definition, with only a  passing swipe at subjectivist theories,
 which were underdeveloped in those days.


--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901




Re: Fidel vs. the New Economy; More Axis of Evil Ahead?

2002-03-08 Thread Ian Murray

the US gov. is attacked every day by hackers from all over the
planet. Where's Dr Strangelove?

Ian
- Original Message -
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 3:38 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:23719] Fidel vs. the New Economy; More Axis of
Evil Ahead?


 STUDYING CUBA'S ABILITY USE NET TO DISRUPT U.S.
 A senior U.S. government official says that the Bush
administration has
 begun a review of Cuba's ability to use the Internet to
disrupt this
 country's military communications or damage other U.S.
interests. Last
 month, White House technical advisor Richard Clarke told a
congressional

 subcommittee that if the U.S. is attacked through cyberspace,
it could
 respond militarily: We reserve the right to respond in any
way
 appropriate: through covert action, through military action,
and any of
 the
 tools available to the president. (AP/USA Today 7 Mar 2002)

http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/2002/03/07/cuba-cyberatt
ack.htm

 --

 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Chico, CA 95929
 530-898-5321
 fax 530-898-5901





redefining efficiency

2002-03-08 Thread Ian Murray

SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/61220_fuelcell07.shtml

$1 billion wasted on study of efficient cars
Feds shift gears to favor research on fuel cells powered by
hydrogen

Thursday, March 7, 2002

By ROBERT McCLURE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

American taxpayers have forked out more than $1 billion over the
last nine years helping the Big Three automakers develop cars
efficient enough to travel 80 miles on a single gallon of gas.

Yet with the U.S. Senate now debating a long-delayed energy
bill, supporters of more stringent fuel-efficiency standards
face a formidable task in persuading lawmakers to require new
cars to average a mere 35 miles per gallon -- by 2013.

The debate in the Senate follows the Bush administration's
abandonment of a 9-year-old fuel-efficiency research effort
known as the Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles, or
PNGV.

Instead, Bush wants to launch a multidecade research program to
develop a gasolineless car propelled by a hydrogen-powered fuel
cell.

A vision like this can transform everything -- the way industry
and government work together, the kinds of fuels we use, and the
kinds of cars we buy, Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham said in
announcing the program in January.

The Freedom Car program, though, has drawn fire from
environmentalists, who say automakers are going back on their
promise early in the Clinton administration to develop 80 mpg
cars by 2004.

By embarking on a new research program, environmentalists
charge, Bush is giving car companies an excuse to delay
installation of fuel-efficient improvements -- the very
improvements discovered with taxpayer-funded research.

The big problem with PNGV is that it never stipulated that the
Big Three actually mass-produce and sell those cars, said Alex
Veitch of the Sierra Club. The weak rules allowed the Big Three
to make fancy prototypes. It did not make them produce clean
cars. ... It turned into an excuse to avoid making progress on
overall fuel economy.

Overall, fuel efficiency of the U.S. passenger fleet has
decreased slightly in recent years as consumers bought more
gas-guzzling sport utility vehicles, minivans and pickups.

The efficiency required of new U.S. cars is the same as when
this year's high school seniors were born: 27.5 mpg. SUVs,
minivans and pickups must average just 20.7.

Environmental groups want Congress to order automakers to employ
some gas-saving devices discovered over the last decade.

There's a lot of value in investment in fuel cells in the
long-term. But there's nothing for the short-term, said David
Friedman of the Union of Concerned Scientists.

How is it that the government spent all that money on
technologies to save gasoline and protect the environment and
now is hesitating to impose a seemingly modest fuel-efficiency
standard?

The answers are multiple, but a chief one is the cost.

Putting the kind of lightweight materials and other innovations
used in the prototypes into a mass-produced car is estimated to
add $7,000 to $10,000 to the cost of a family sedan, said Bob
Culver, executive director of the U.S. Council for Automotive
Research, the Big Three-government research collaboration.

We were pretty much there, Culver said of the technology. The
big problem is, they weren't cost-effective.

In announcing the Bush administration's change of course,
Abraham agreed, saying the PNGV wasn't moving a competitive
automobile to the showroom.

As a member of the Senate, Abraham fought efforts to tighten
fuel-efficiency standards, and was derisively referred to by
environmentalists as the senator from General Motors.

The fuel-cell technology Abraham is pursuing faces some stiff
challenges. It's attractive because the hydrogen-powered fuel
cells would employ a chemical reaction to produce energy,
leaving water as the only waste product. Ultimately, the goal is
to provide transportation without using fossil fuels.

For now, fuel cells are too expensive and big to fit into a
passenger car. But there's a gas-saving alternative already
available -- hybrid cars powered by a combination of a
gasoline engine and an electric motor.

While American automakers only recently announced plans for such
cars, Toyota's Prius sedan offers over 40 mpg and Honda's
two-seat Insight can get 56 mpg. Both are big sellers in the
Seattle area.

Hybrids aren't a total answer, though. What the Senate is
arguing about is average fuel efficiency of new cars, pickup
trucks, sport utility vehicles and minivans. A proposal by Sen.
John McCain, R-Arizona, would require 36 mpg by 2016. Another by
Sens. John Kerry, D-Mass., and Ernest Hollings, R-S.C., has been
included in the Democratic leadership's proposal and would
mandate 35 mpg by 2013.

In order to achieve those savings, lots of fuel-miserly hybrids
would have to be sold, and improvements would have to be made to
trucks, SUVs and minivans that have gotten a break from
fuel-economy rules.

With current technology, said the 

Re: Re: Fidel vs. the New Economy; More Axis of Evil Ahead?

2002-03-08 Thread Greg Schofield

Like Hitler the US seems to be dreaming of war without end, war as the resolution to 
every inconvenience. 

Greg

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the US gov. is attacked every day by hackers from all over the
planet. Where's Dr Strangelove?

Ian
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 STUDYING CUBA'S ABILITY USE NET TO DISRUPT U.S.
 A senior U.S. government official says that the Bush
administration has
 begun a review of Cuba's ability to use the Internet to
disrupt this
 country's military communications or damage other U.S.
interests. Last
 month, White House technical advisor Richard Clarke told a
congressional

 subcommittee that if the U.S. is attacked through cyberspace,
it could
 respond militarily: We reserve the right to respond in any
way
 appropriate: through covert action, through military action,
and any of
 the
 tools available to the president. (AP/USA Today 7 Mar 2002)

http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/2002/03/07/cuba-cyberatt
ack.htm

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Asia-Pacific prepaid mobile connections jump Gartner

2002-03-08 Thread Ulhas Joglekar

The Times of India

THURSDAY, MARCH 07, 2002

Asia-Pacific prepaid mobile connections jump: Gartner

REUTERS

SINGAPORE: The number of prepaid cellular connections in the Asia-Pacific
region including Japan surged from 33.6 million to 108.2 million between the
fourth quarters of 2000 and 2001, Gartner Dataquest said on Wednesday.

Prepaids constituted 76.2 per cent of new cellular connections in 2001, the
market research firm said in a statement.

Prepaid growth in developed markets such as Australia, Hong Kong, Japan and
South Korea were slow. In Singapore, the number fell by about 23,000
connections, partly due to consolidation of the customer base towards the
end of 2001, Gartner said.

But developing countries like China, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, the
Philippines and Thailand grew at a rapid rate.

Following is a table of Asia-Pacific prepaid cellular connections by country
(in thousands):


Country  Q4 2000  Q4 2001  Change

Australia 2,115 3,317   1,202

China11,490  66,196  54,706

Hong Kong 1,0611,417   356

India   1,059 2,4661,407

Indonesia2,092   4,754 2,662

Japan 722   1,234512

Malaysia 2,678   4,485  1,807

New Zealand 1,150 1,687537

Philippines 4,953  10,146 5,193

Singapore   706   683 -23

South Korea 400785 385

Taiwan3,8575,917 2,060

Thailand 522   3,248   2,726

Rest of region 7931,876 1,083

Total  33,598108,211  74,613

Copyright © 2001 Times Internet Limited. All rights reserved.





our president

2002-03-08 Thread Michael Perelman

Stolen from Tim Bousquet's local mailing list:


Can't make this up. This is from Lloyd Grove's regular
column from the Washingtom Post, and if you don't
believe me see it for yourself at


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45517-2002Mar6.html

It reads (toward the bottom):

Here's a vignette we're dying to see on the ABC
broadcast of Sunday's Ford's Theatre Presidential
Gala: When Stevie Wonder sat down at the keyboard
center stage, President Bush in the front row got very
excited. He smiled and started waving at Wonder, who
understandably did not respond. After a moment Bush
realized his mistake and slowly dropped the errant
hand back to his lap. 'I know I shouldn't have,' a
witness told us yesterday, 'but I started laughing.'

--

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Economics Department
California State University
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530-898-5321
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Interesting quote on floating currencies

2002-03-08 Thread bantam

G'day pen-pals,

Just came across this little quote from January 6 1990: economic
historians will look back on the 1980s as the decade in which the
experiment with floating currencies failed ... What matters is that
these swings failed to do what they were supposed to do: instead of
reducing economic volatility, they increased it ... far from narrowing
the gaps between international costs, the dollar's fluctuations widened
them ... the time has come to peg currencies again.

So ignored or forgotten a sentiment, one'd conclude these must've been
the mewlings of some marginalised old protectionistist or
lefty-finance-baiter.  Not descriptions likely to bring The Economist
straight to mind, eh?

Cheers,
Rob.




Re: Re: Re: Re: Marx vs. Roemer

2002-03-08 Thread Justin Schwartz




Justin, I suspect that you merely have a different idea about what value is 
than
I do.  It does not mean that either of us would be wrong.

Marx, as I read him, is saying that value is a particular social 
relationship
unique to capitalism; only living labor creates surplus value; dead labor
cannot.

This is suppose to be a theorem that follows from some of the assumptions I 
sketched below, plus a bunch of other stuff. I don't think it is a theorem, 
or anyway, that it is an interesting one if it is. The real issue about SV 
is where profits come from: do they derive from the exploitation of labor? I 
agree that they do, mainly, I also think that Marx shows this. He also 
thinks that you need the assumption that they derive only from living labor, 
that you need the notion of SV defined in labor theoretic terms to show 
this. There I disagree.

He does not mean that nature is unimportant or that machines do not
have an important place, but that in capitalism, the key relations for him 
is
what sort of social relations exist under capitalism.


Agreed.

You may read him differently; if so, labor may not be the sole source of 
value
in your interpretation, but that does not mean that Marx is wrong.

For that reason, I don't see how this debate can lead anywhere.

Maybe not, I have so repeatedly.


jks

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Japan

2002-03-08 Thread Ian Murray

Japan's recession deepens

Ministers say decline is worst since war but insist that US
recovery will feed through

Jonathan Watts in Tokyo
Saturday March 9, 2002
The Guardian

The Japanese government yesterday said the country was in its
deepest recession since the second world war, as the collapse of
a medium-sized bank underlined the persistent fragility of the
financial sector.

Fears of a banking system meltdown were eased, however, by a
spurt in share prices on the Tokyo stock exchange on hopes that
the United States, Japan's biggest trading partner, will emerge
strongly from the downturn.

Japan's problems are far more protracted. Yesterday's data
showed that the world's second-biggest economy contracted by a
worse-than-expected 1.2% in the final three months of last year.

This fall, equivalent to 4.5% on a yearly basis, represented the
third consecutive quarter of decline - the worst nine-month
period that Japan has recorded since the second world war.

As well as the long-standing problems of deflation and a banking
system buckling under the weight of trillions of yen of bad
loans, Japan was hit by an outbreak of mad cow disease and the
September 11 terrorist attacks, which hurt the tourist and
aviation industries.

In response to the slide in global markets, especially the US,
corporations such as NEC, Hitachi and Matsushita beat a hasty
retreat, cutting business investment by 12% - the steepest
quarterly decline recorded.

Government ministers joined many analysts, however, in
expressing a belief that Japan will benefit from the pick-up
that has taken place overseas. I hope that the economy has now
bottomed out, said economic minister Heizo Takenaka. I don't
get the impression that the poor conditions have deteriorated
since the end of last year.

Recent statistics paint an unclear picture. On the plus side,
personal consumption is up and exports have been given a boost
by the weakening of the yen, which improves the competitiveness
of Japanese products overseas. Among the biggest beneficiaries
has been the carmaker Honda, which reported a surge in sales at
the end of last year.

Unemployment has eased to 5.3% from its record high of 5.6%,
inventories have been reduced and surveys of business confidence
show the majority of firms expect an improvement in their
operations.

Yet the bright spots of a cyclical upturn remain overshadowed by
longer-term structural problems. Japan is the only industrial
power since the 1930s to suffer deflation, which prime minister
Junichiro Koizumi has declared the biggest concern for the
economy. Despite repeated government attempts to get to grips
with the problem, wholesale prices fell by 1.3% in February,
marking the 17th consecutive month of decline.

The banking sector continued its protracted shake-out yesterday
with the collapse of Chubu Bank, a second-tier regional
institution. For the past year, Japan's small banks and credit
unions have been failing at the rate of almost four a month.

But concerns of a systemic failure ahead of the annual
book-settling deadline of March 31 have subsided thanks to the
stock market rally, which will support bank balance sheets.





Dervis on Turkey

2002-03-08 Thread Sabri Oncu

Dervis: Turkey's Successful Foreign Policy And Its Strong
Economic Program Helped It Overcome The Economic Crisis

OXFORD, March 7 (A.A) - State Minister Kemal Dervis has said that
Turkey's successful foreign policy following Sept.11 attacks and
the strong economic program helped it overcome the economic
crisis.

Dervis addressed to academicians and students at the historical
building of Oxford University in Britain on Thursday.

Dervis said that like everywhere in the world, the economic
crisis had a high cost for Turkey as well as certain positive
effects. He explained that economies which can survive such
crises usually become stronger after those periods.

Dervis said that the Turkish economy did well in 1980s but then
the high inflation became chronical in 1990s. Dervis indicated
that the economic program which was put into practice in 2000 was
a good program but the economy was not strong enough because of
lack of discipline in monetary policies.

Dervis said that Turkey realized all the structural reforms that
were the basic elements of the program but this was interrupted
by the consequences of tragic Sept.11 attacks. ''The results of
all those efforts were under risk. Nobody could see the future.
That's why Turkey asked more support from the IMF,'' he said.

Dervis said that Turkish economy started giving the first
indications of recovery last October.

''Turkey's successful foreign policy and its cooperation in the
international fight against terrorism were important elements,''
he continued. ''Another element was implementing a strong
economic program. Without one of these, Turkey could have been
destroyed like Argentina.''

Dervis said that the structural changes were very radical. ''Many
things were accomplished in a very short time. Because the
society was ready for it. This wasn't a sudden magical change.
The reformists had already started the preparations long
before.''

Dervis said that the young population supported these radical
changes and the wish to integrate with Europe was the basis of
this support. He added that Turkish people believed that these
reforms were a must in order to join the EU.

''There's no chance that Turkey could return to the crisis in
2001. I believe that Turkey left this risk behind,'' he said.

''The next ten years will be much better. Turkey's EU membership
is very important. Turkish people want to become a member of the
European family,'' Dervis said.

Dervis will attend a meeting held by the Brisith Industrialists
and Businessmen Confederation in London on Friday. He is expected
to leave Britain on Sunday.

http://www.turkishpress.com/turkishpress/news.asp?ID=5300




Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Marx vs. Roemer

2002-03-08 Thread Ian Murray


- Original Message -
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [PEN-L:23729] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Marx vs. Roemer


 I believe that it is a disservice to Marx to make him out to
be an
 academic economist trying to work via theorems.  Also, Marx
was not really
 trying to show where profits come from, but to show the
perverse
 consequences of the social relations of value.

===

Ok, so if Marx wasn't using theorems as he understood them,
wasn't doing theory, wasn't engaged in creating a representation
of capitalism a la Hegel, Ricardo, Locke, Smith, Carey, Leibniz,
winding back to Aristotle in order to make normative claims and
back them up with hypotheses etc. then what was he doing when
claiming social relationships manifest perversity?

Ian




Re: redefining efficiency

2002-03-08 Thread Charles Jannuzi

How is it that the government spent all that money on technologies to save
gasoline and protect the environment and now is hesitating to impose a
seemingly modest fuel-efficiency
standard? The answers are multiple, but a chief one is the cost. Putting the
kind of lightweight materials and other innovations used in the prototypes
into a mass-produced car is estimated to add $7,000 to $10,000 to the cost
of a family sedan, said Bob
Culver, executive director of the U.S. Council for Automotive
Research, the Big Three-government research collaboration.
We were pretty much there, Culver said of the technology. The big problem
is, they weren't cost-effective.

If they went to a much more efficient fleet requirement, Toyota, Honda and
Mitsubishi would put Ford and GM out of business. All three of these
companies make the leanest  of gasoline engines, and Toyota and Honda have
hybrid cars that are already on the highways. It may be that fuel cell cars
are not practical in a long, long time, but just think how much fuel could
be saved and how much pollution reduced if hybrid cars started replacing the
gas guzzlers now.

A strict requirement would change the rules of the game and we can't have
that.

Charles Jannuzi