a report, albeit brief

2002-03-21 Thread Anthony D'Costa

Michael Perelman asked me to report on the conference I attended at U of
Warwick in Coventry, UK last weekend.  It was on Globalisation, Growth and
In(equality), organized by the univ's Centre for Globalisation and
Regionalisation.  Keynote speakers included Ravi Kanbur (of Cornell),
Robert Wade of LSE, Adrian Wood from the UK government, Martin Khor of
Third World Network, etc.  Most participants were trade economists, political
economists, and a few from various assorted fields.

A good number of participants from the UK were policy makers, engaged in
issues of trade and aid.  There were a few World Bank consultants from the
UK side as well.  There were some of us who did sectoral studies.  It was
good to meet some folks whose writings I read as a grad student.  Overall
assessment of the conf: very good.  It is good to see a good mix like this
where development issues are dealt at several levels.  I rarely find such
types of conf in the US.  There were of course those who liked the pecking
order (as Jim D would say) but nothing serious really.

My paper was on IT exports and inequality in India.  A non-rigorous
approach to studying inequality but which I believe is easily captured
with sectoral data.  I also gave a talk to non-academics (mainly) at the U
of Sheffield (Center for Japanese Studies) on Japanese industrial
practices in the Indian auto industry.  It was nice to speak to an
audience of about 35 people with far more time than the 20 min that conf
typically allot you.

London, as always, is a great walking city.  Always nice to have a
resident give you a tour.  Violent crime apparently has increased though
crime as a whole has fallen, that was one item which was repeated a
couple of times on TV.  The Race Relations Committee chair, a British Sikh
suggested forced integration (not his words).  Some policies are
forthcoming based on the commission's report.

I suppose the debate between Wade and Wolf were publihsed in the Prospect
(US edition).  It was in the UK edition.  My friend tells me Wade had a
problem with the numbers.  I guess I have to read it to see what's being
debated and how.

Cheers, Anthony
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RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Nobel Prize

2002-03-21 Thread Davies, Daniel



The standard version of the story with the PD, as set forth in Taylor (the 
inventor), Rapaport, von Neumann and Morgenstern, etc., is that the 
prisoners cannot communicate. One reason for this is so that they cannot 
change the payoff matrix by threatening _each other_. Otherwise the
dominant 
strategy will be different. Of course mere promises will be worthless. But 
promises are not the only things that can be communicated.


A threat is just another kind of promise; for a fully consistent game
theoretician, *no* statement of the form If you play strategy X, I will do
Y, where Y is an action which is costly for the person making the
statement, is credible.  If you ever have the bad luck to be banged up with
a game theoretician, you might quite possibly tap on the waterpipes or
something to inform him that If you defect and I get ten years, I'll come
after you and kill your family.  But he's just going to reply that since it
would be costly for you to do so (and you can't gain any pleasure from doing
it since this would mean that your utility and his were not independent as
required by the vN/M axioms), it would be strictly irrational for you to do
so, so he's going to regard it as just empty talk.  Leaving you back where
you started.

There are games in which communication makes a difference; if one prisoner
could prove that he was a member of a secret society that would expel him if
he failed to avenge a defection (in other words, could make his threat
credible), then that would make a difference.  But ordinary, garden-variety
communication is just cheap talk in most of these models.  That's the
classic, fully rational theory of games, anyway, wherein is had much fun in
deducing all the knowledge that each player might have.  Once you introduce
bounded rationality, the whole business gets much more murky.

dd


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RE: RE: Re: Alzheimer's disease

2002-03-21 Thread Davies, Daniel

I hope any relatives of sufferers will take cheer rather than offence in my
passing on that the motto of the Irish Alzheimer's Disease Society is:

Remember those who can't.

dd


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Oracle denies shifting Indian RD centre to China

2002-03-21 Thread Ulhas Joglekar

Hindustantimes.com

Oracle denies shifting Indian RD centre to China

Reuters
New Delhi, March 13

Software giant Oracle Corp denied on Wednesday reports that it planned to
shift its research and development centre from India to China.

Oracle is not relocating its Indian RD centre to China. India remains an
important market for Oracle and we're committed to our research and
development operations in Bangalore and Hyderabad, the company said in a
statement.

Earlier this week, the Press Trust of India news agency reported that
Oracle, the world's No 2 software maker, would move its development centre
out of the country.

Oracle's India development centre has been operating in India for eight
years, and Oracle has no plans to alter its aggressive growth plans in
either Bangalore or Hyderabad, the statement said.

The company also has a global consulting group in Bangalore, India's
software hub, and global product support centres in Bangalore and Hyderabad,
an emerging technology hub.

Redwood Shores, California-based Oracle was among the first global giants to
open a development centre in India, where several technology giants have
opened facilities attracted by the country's vast pool of skilled technical
talent and low costs.

Oracle's Indian centre works on a range of products covering its core
database, development tools, web technologies and e-business application
products.

As Oracle consolidates its position in the growing area of Internet-based
remote services, India will continue to play a key role in Oracle's global
strategy, Derek Williams, Oracle's executive vice-president for
Asia-Pacific, said in the statement.

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Revolution(s) In Our Time (Argentina)

2002-03-21 Thread Charles Brown

Revolution(s) In Our Time (Argentina)
by Li'l Joe and Connie White



In the photos shown on Indymedia (below), we
couldn't tell whether or not the Argentinian
police were armed with guns as well as sticks.
If they had sticks only, that would indicate
that they relinquished the Brukman textile
factory to the workers and retreated from fear.
On the other hand, if they were armed with
guns and, nonetheless, relinquished the plant
to the workers, this implies a solidarity with
the workers BY REFUSING TO SHOOT THEM!

In the case of the former scenario, it's cool.
To quote from Marx, the workers, by such
victories feel their strength more, and see
the relative weakness, or rather, indecisiveness
of the bourgeois state.  Such victories embolden
the workers, and the workers in other factories
have discussions as to how to do the same.

If the second scenario were the case, this
too is cool, in that the message is that the
Argentinian police refused to open fire on
the workers who were occupying bourgeois
property.  Trotsky wrote (we believe in the
Transitional Programme) that, by their very
nature, sit-down strikes, i.e. plant
occupations, raise the question of whose
property is this any way?!  From the Marxist
perspective, we understand this to mean that
the capitalist mode of appropriation -- the
result of the capitalist mode of production
-- is ownership based on buying and selling.
Thus, the Argentina workers' occupation of
the Brukman textile plant is implicitly an
expropriation of the product(s) of social
labour -- i.e., the factory -- and is the
first stage in the expropriation of the
expropriators.

The State exists as special bodies of armed
men, with prisons, etc., at their disposal
-- it exists to preserve the capitalistic
mode of appropriation and, inadvertently
or consciously, to defend capitalist property.
The capitalist mode of appropriation -- the
result of the capitalist mode of production
-- results in capitalist private property.
But, the capitalist mode of production,
that is, commodity production on the basis
of wage-labour, results in industrial
production based in social labour.  The
contradiction of the private appropriation
of the products of social labour is resolved
only when the class of producers expropriate
the means of social production and, thereby,
abolish commodity production and the system
of wage-labour itself!

If the Argentinian police refused to open fire
on the workers defending the Brukman textile
factory, this does not necessarily mean that
they recognize that the products of social
labour ought to belong to society rather than
to capitalists.  But, at minimum, it means
that, because of the contradictions in their
social being and individual consciousness, the
[individual] cops -- being sons and daughters
of the working class and are compelled by
their job description to protect the property
of an alien class, the capitalist class --
are susceptible to working class pressures,
i.e., the pressures of their [working class]
parents, siblings, neighbors and friends.

A socialist revolution -- that is, the seizure
of the productive forces by the working-classes
and toiling masses -- is not possible without
significant elements of the military coming
over to the side of the proletariat and, in
the first instance, by refusing to open fire
on the working class, and then by consciously
going over to the revolution by opening fire
on their officers -- brigade after brigade --
until we have division after division of
Red Guards, and indeed a Red Army!

Hic Rhodus, hic salta!  Here is the rose, dance
thou here!

La luta continua.

--- Vicente Balvanera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yesterday, Saturday, the Brukman textile
 factory was taken over by infantry and police,
 the workers evicted.  The workers stayed in
 place, refusing to be dispersed in front of the
 factory.  A call was sent out, and a large
 number of brothers and sisters arrived on
 the scene.  From the limited info we have at
 present, we only know that the police and
 infantry retired from the scene, and the
 following pictures (argentina indymedia) show
 how the plant was taken over once again.  A
 call has been sent out by the Brukman workers
 for a permanent security guard to be set up.
 All fighting class struggle organizations and
 political parties of the left are participating
 together to comply with this need.
 The factory is once again in the hands of the workers.


http://www.argentina.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=17095group=webcast 

 Vicente Balvanera



http://www.argentina.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=17095group=webcast 

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Re: Revolution(s) In Our Time (Argentina)

2002-03-21 Thread Alan Cibils



I think Li'l Joe and Connie White are reading too much into the cop 
reaction, and are probably leaving out some key factors.

1) In Argentina all cops are armed with at least a pistol on their hips. 
The cops in this picture are no exception.

2) The attempt to kick the workers out of the Brukman textile installation 
was carried out by the Policia Federal Argentina (PFA), with as many 
plainclothes police (also armed) as uniformed.

3) If the police didn't succeed it was due to two things:
a) Neighbours from that area came out (at least a couple hundred), cut off 
Jujuy Ave. and banged their pots and pans. This got some media play which 
resulted in people from ohter parts of the city joining in the protest.
b) The last thing the government wants right now is to have any casualties 
that would cause a massive street protest. I have no doubt that the police 
are under the strictest orders NOT to shoot.

4) This is the same police force that brutally repressed demonstrators on 
20 December 2001, resulting in 5 dead down town. This was done while TV 
cameras were rolling, which goes to show that they don't give a rat's ass 
about being identified as having brutally beat up and shot peaceful 
demonstrators.

5) This is also the same police force that brutally repressed at least two 
cacerolazos in January, with absolutely no provocation. They tear gassed 
and fired rubber bullets at peaceful demonstrators. (There are many reports 
of how they appeared to be enjoying the repression, cracking jokes, 
laughing, etc.)

6) This is not to say that there might not be solidaritous cops in the PFA. 
However, as a force they are as fascistic as the Argentine military (with 
strong neo-nazi influences).

I think that, so far, the government's fear of massive street protests is 
what has resulted in lower levels of repression. However, there is a lot of 
intimidation currently occurring. For example, neighborhood assemblies in 
the Capital are routinely under surveillance from cops in cvilian clothes 
(typically observing from conspicuously parked cars). Police presence in 
demonstrations is also huge, often outnumbering protesters. In the suburbs 
of Buenos Aires, where there are many assemblies as well, gangs of thugs 
linked to the peronist political apparatus have often intimidated and/or 
beat up assembly members.

I suspect that more turmoil lies ahead as the government fails to secure 
IMF money and their economic program falls to pieces as the peso plumets to 
new lows. The IMF of course, not recognizing any responsibility for the 
Argentine crisis, is back in full force (they sent an 18 member delegation 
for a week and a half) recommending more of the same crap. Unbelievably, 
the government is still trying to comply

Stay tuned, this story ain't over yet.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Nobel Prize

2002-03-21 Thread Justin Schwartz




 The standard version of the story with the PD, as set forth in Taylor 
(the
 inventor), Rapaport, von Neumann and Morgenstern, etc., is that the
 prisoners cannot communicate. One reason for this is so that they cannot
 change the payoff matrix by threatening _each other_. Otherwise the
dominant
 strategy will be different. Of course mere promises will be worthless. 
But
 promises are not the only things that can be communicated.
 

A threat is just another kind of promise; for a fully consistent game
theoretician, *no* statement of the form If you play strategy X, I will do
Y, where Y is an action which is costly for the person making the
statement, is credible.  If you ever have the bad luck to be banged up with
a game theoretician, you might quite possibly tap on the waterpipes or
something to inform him that If you defect and I get ten years, I'll come
after you and kill your family.  But he's just going to reply that since 
it
would be costly for you to do so (and you can't gain any pleasure from 
doing
it since this would mean that your utility and his were not independent as
required by the vN/M axioms), it would be strictly irrational for you to do
so, so he's going to regard it as just empty talk.  Leaving you back where
you started.

Well maybe, take it up with the architects of the PD, Taylor, Rapaport, vN  
M, all of whom insist on the noncom condition, frankly, I'm not a game 
theorist or an economist, just a sometime philosopher and lawyer with an 
amateur interest in this stuff, and I'm not even interested enough to go 
back to the books and try to figure thsi won out cause it's not that 
important to me. It's possible you have a a potebtially interesting critique 
of standard presentations of the PD, if it isn't already widely known, which 
I wouldn't know,


There are games in which communication makes a difference; if one prisoner
could prove that he was a member of a secret society that would expel him 
if
he failed to avenge a defection (in other words, could make his threat
credible), then that would make a difference.  But ordinary, garden-variety
communication is just cheap talk in most of these models.  That's the
classic, fully rational theory of games, anyway, wherein is had much fun in
deducing all the knowledge that each player might have.  Once you introduce
bounded rationality, the whole business gets much more murky.

dd


Praps.

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Re: RE: New Book on Marx's Capital-Marx words

2002-03-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/21/2002 6:42:04 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I've always liked this letter to Kugelmann. Very Hegelian. Very important stress on the importance of theory for revolutionary transformation. 

Whose translation is this? 

Andrew Kliman


Progress Publisher, Moscow 1969, Karl Marx and Frederick Engels Selected Works in three Volumes, Volume Two page 418. First Printing. 

I had looked up the letter on one of the Marx Archive (for easy copying) and it lacked the first three sentences. The above is not the entire letter, which I do not have a copy of. 

I read in the letter a definitive statement on value (magnitude) and exchange value (prices or exchange relations) and the approach to examining "the essence" of phenomena. Thus Marx states: 

"The vulgar economist has not the faintest idea that the actual everyday exchange relations cannot be directly identical with the magnitudes of value."

 The letter is reproduced below.

Marx to L. Kugelmann in Hanover
London, July 11, 1868 


. . . . As for the Centralblatt, the man is making the greatest possible 
concession in admitting that, if one means anything at all by value, the 
conclusion I draw must be accepted. The unfortunate fellow does not see that, 
even if there were no chapter on "value" in my book, the analysis of the real 
relations which I give would contain the proof and demonstrations of the real 
value relations. All that palaver about the necessity of proving the concept 
of value comes from complete ignorance both of the subject dealt with and of 
the scientific method.

Every child knows a nation which ceased to work, I will not say for a year, 
but even for a few weeks, would perish. Every child knows, too, that the 
masses of products corresponding to the different needs required different 
and quantitatively determined masses of the total labor of society. That this 
necessity of the distribution of social labor in definite proportions cannot 
possibly be done away with by a particular form of social production but can 
only change the mode of its appearance, is self-evident. No natural laws can 
be done away with. What can change in historically different circumstances is 
only the form in which these laws assert themselves. And the form in which 
this proportional distribution of labor asserts itself, in the state of 
society where the interconnection of social labor is manifested in the 
private exchange of the individual products of labor, is precisely the 
exchange value of these products. 

Science consists precisely in demonstrating how the law of value asserts 
itself. So that if one wanted at the very beginning to "explain" all the 
phenomenon which seemingly contradict that law, one would have to present 
science before science. It is precisely Ricardo's mistake that in his first 
chapter on value [On the Principles of Political Economy, and Taxation, Page 
479] he takes as given all possible and still to be developed categories in 
order to prove their conformity with the law of value. 

On the other hand, as you correctly assumed, the history of the theory 
certainly shows that the concept of the value relation has always been the 
same — more or less clear, hedged more or less with illusions or 
scientifically more or less definite. Since the thought process itself grows 
out of conditions, is itself a natural process, thinking that really 
comprehends must always be the same, and can vary only gradually, according 
to maturity of development, including the development of the organ by which 
the thinking is done. Everything else is drivel. 

The vulgar economist has not the faintest idea that the actual everyday 
exchange relations cannot be directly identical with the magnitudes of value. 
The essence of bourgeois society consists precisely in this, that a priori 
there is no conscious social regulation of production. The rational and 
naturally necessary asserts itself only as a blindly working average. And 
then the vulgar economist thinks he has made a great discovery when, as 
against the revelation of the inner interconnection, he proudly claims that 
in appearance things look different. In fact, he boasts that he holds fast to 
appearance, and takes it for the ultimate. Why, then, have any science at 
all? 

But the matter has also another background. Once the interconnection is 
grasped, all theoretical belief in the permanent necessity of existing 
conditions collapses before their collapse in practice. Here, therefore, it 
is absolutely in the interest of the ruling classes to perpetuate a senseless 
confusion. And for what other purpose are the sycophantic babblers paid, who 
have no other scientific trump to play save that in political economy one 
should not think at all? 

But satis superque [enough and to spare]. In any case it shows what these 
priests of the bourgeoisie have come down to, when workers and even 
manufacturers and merchants understand my book [Capital] 

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Nobel Prize

2002-03-21 Thread Davies, Daniel


Well maybe, take it up with the architects of the PD, Taylor, Rapaport, vN
 
M, all of whom insist on the noncom condition, frankly,

Sorry mate; I'm clearly getting your back up here and I didn't mean to.

The fact that communication has to be more than cheap talk if it is to be
more than a wheel which doesn't turn anything in the mechanism, is pretty
well known in the literature, though it probably came later than von Neumann
and Morgenstern. In fact a lot of it is the reason why Harsanyi and Selten
shared the Nobel equally with Nash, although they didn't get a film written
about them.

I'd be wary of relying on Rapaport too heavily; as far as I know, his main
contribution to game theory have been a fallacy (the Symmetry Fallacy in the
one-shot PD) and joint responsibility for all the horrendous confusion
engendered by that book The Evolution of Co-operation (summarised at
http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/1/1/review1.html ).  Thomas Schelling's
Strategy of Conflict is lumps better as a text on game theory from a
political science point of view.

anyway, whatever.  I suspect that diminishing returns has set in on this by
now

dd


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Re: Re: RE: Nash, Harsanyi and Selten

2002-03-21 Thread Ken Hanly

I thought that Hobbes was a  mathematical genius. He was the first to square
the circle. Of course this caused great jealousy among the established
mathematicians and the Royal Society..;.

Cheers, Ken Hanly


- Original Message -
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 - Original Message -
 From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  the notion that what's good for a group isn't
 necessarily good for
  individuals goes way back. Among others, Thomas
 Hobbes' LEVIATHAN (circa
  1651) relies on this. He didn't exactly need
 game theory.
  JDevine

 ==

 But he'd have enjoyed the stuff if he had greater
 mathematical proclivities; remember his fits over
 the Royal Society, one of the first great
 institutional uses of mathematics as an
 exclusionary device in professional societies.

 Ian





game theory

2002-03-21 Thread Devine, James

[was: RE: [PEN-L:24200] RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Nobel Prize]

Why is it that game theory focuses only on the 2x2 matrix type of game (or
the N-person game)? or am I wrong to think that it is so one-tracked in its
mind? 

When I'm wasting my time (in other ways besides silly e-mail discussions), I
wonder if a game of solitaire could be used as an analogy for real-world
situations the way the 2x2 game is used as a metaphor for some specific
social situations. Perhaps Lenin or some other social revolutionary could be
modeled as playing freecell, with the chances of victory depend on not
only on what's in the cards (the situation created by the conflict of
forces  relations of production) but also on strategy  skill. Maybe this
analogy is a way of reconciling determinism and the role of individual
leaders.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine



 -Original Message-
 From: Davies, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:13 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: [PEN-L:24200] RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Nobel Prize
 
 
 
 Well maybe, take it up with the architects of the PD, 
 Taylor, Rapaport, vN
  
 M, all of whom insist on the noncom condition, frankly,
 
 Sorry mate; I'm clearly getting your back up here and I 
 didn't mean to.
 
 The fact that communication has to be more than cheap talk 
 if it is to be
 more than a wheel which doesn't turn anything in the 
 mechanism, is pretty
 well known in the literature, though it probably came later 
 than von Neumann
 and Morgenstern. In fact a lot of it is the reason why 
 Harsanyi and Selten
 shared the Nobel equally with Nash, although they didn't get 
 a film written
 about them.
 
 I'd be wary of relying on Rapaport too heavily; as far as I 
 know, his main
 contribution to game theory have been a fallacy (the Symmetry 
 Fallacy in the
 one-shot PD) and joint responsibility for all the horrendous confusion
 engendered by that book The Evolution of Co-operation (summarised at
 http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/1/1/review1.html ).  Thomas Schelling's
 Strategy of Conflict is lumps better as a text on game theory from a
 political science point of view.
 
 anyway, whatever.  I suspect that diminishing returns has set 
 in on this by
 now
 
 dd
 
 
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The Italian murder

2002-03-21 Thread Patrick Bond

- Original Message - 
From: Franco Barchiesi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Patrick Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Hi Patrick,
 
 The guy that was killed, Marco Biagi, was a professor
 quite well known in Bologna university environments.
 Defined by people I know there as not so disgusting
 but definitely a moderate reformist, he has been an
 advisor to Labour Ministers in both left and the
 current right-wing governments. Staunch supporter of
 labour market flexibility, Biagi has played a key role
 in drafting amendments to Section 18 of 1970's
 Workers' Statutes (Act 300 of 1970), which, if
 implemented, will among other things eliminate the
 justified cause clause for firing workers in
 establishments with more than 15 employees, and
 greatly reduce the power of Labour Courts in ordering
 reinstatements of unfairly dismissed workers. In
 short, firing workers will become extremely easy (now
 it's nearly impossible in Italy, aside from
 retrenchments). His murder comes just 3 days before a
 massive demo scheduled for 23 March, where more than 1
 million people are expected to protest aginst the
 ultra-neoliberal policies of the Berlusconi
 government, and two weeks before the 5 April general
 strike. While the government (joined by employers'
 organisations) has been quick to blame widespread
 social opposition for determining objective
 conditions leading to the crime, the movement has
 clearly underlined these temporal coincidences to
 advanced suspects that this is another, rather clumsy,
 episode of a decades-long 'strategy of tension' with
 which right wingers and conservative forces have
 always tried to tame emerging popular movements. In
 particular, Luca Casarini (who condemned the
 assassination  -- like all the comrades and the left
 parties -- in the strongest possible terms), has
 released an interview defining this as a state
 murder. Astonishing coincidences seem to support
 these suspects. Last week the weekly Panorama, owned
 by Berlusconi, published an identity of possible
 terrorists' targets which had on top of the list
 academic advisers of government department,
 particularly the Department of Labour. In the same
 week, the Ministry of Interior decided to remove the
 Police escort that Biagi was having. All this is, I
 think, more than suspect. As for the Red Brigades,
 they are basically extinct and albeit some obscure
 groups can appropriate their acronym, it is simply
 ridiculous to resurrect them as the government is
 trying to do in order to stygmatise grassroots
 mobilisations by linking them to the 1970s climate. In
 any event, the movement will be the worst affected by
 this act.
 
 PS You can post this on Debate if you want
 
 Franco
 




Re: Alzheimer's disease

2002-03-21 Thread Sabri Oncu

 I hope any relatives of sufferers will take cheer
 rather than offence in my passing on that the motto
 of the Irish Alzheimer's Disease Society is:

 Remember those who can't.

 dd

Thanks for this. I was feeling bad for starting the topic after
Jim's response.

Best,
Sabri




Re: game theory

2002-03-21 Thread Gil Skillman

Jim writes

Why is it that game theory focuses only on the 2x2 matrix type of game (or
the N-person game)? 

(it doesn't)

or am I wrong to think that it is so one-tracked in its
mind? 

In a word, yes.  The 2X2 games are primarily just used for illustrative
purposes.




The other axis of evil

2002-03-21 Thread Charles Brown

 The other axis of evil

  Le Monde diplomatique 

-

March 2002

   The other axis of evil

 by IGNACIO RAMONET

  We need to be aware that neo-liberal globalisation is
  attacking the social order on three fronts. The economic
  front is the most important since it affects all
  humanity. It is presided over by the International
  Monetary Fund, the World Bank and the World Trade
  Organisation: they form the real axis of evil (1). This
  loathsome triumvirate creates massive havoc and seeks to
  impose an economic agenda founded on the predominance of
  the private sector and the markets, and on profit.
  Consider the fraud surrounding Enron, Turkey's monetary
  crisis, the collapse of Argentina and environmental
  devastation.

  To add insult to injury, the international conference on
  financing for development, which will be held this month
  in Monterrey, Mexico, will undoubtedly recommend that the
  private sector oversees the development of nations in the
  South (2). It is scandalous that our leaders,
  particularly those from the European Union, refuse to
  take action that might provide for development and
  liberate two-thirds of humanity mired in poverty.

  What is needed is to write off poor countries' debts
  completely; to create a fair and broad-based system
  governing debt repayment for nations of the South; to
  obtain guarantees to ensure that the conditions for
  financing are appropriate and that financing will be used
  for sustainable development; to ensure that wealthy
  nations devote at least 0.7% of their budgets to
  financing for development; to restore balance in
  North-South trade policies; to implement policies to
  ensure that every country has sovereignty over its food;
  to regulate irrational capital flows; to outlaw banking
  secrecy; to abolish tax havens; and to create an
  international taxation system governing financial
  transactions.

  The second front is ideological, and is silent and
  invisible. There is a whole industry that aims to
  convince humanity that globalisation will bring universal
  happiness. This industry needs the active collaboration
  of universities and research institutions (such as the
  Heritage Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute
  and the Cato Institute) and the co-operation of those
  media (such as CNN, the Financial Times, The Wall Street
  Journal and The Economist) that are copied by journalists
  the world over. Armed with information, globalisation's
  ideological warriors have created a dictatorship that
  depends on the passive complicity of those it subjugates
  (3).

  Media manipulation officially began when the Pentagon
  opened its Office of Strategic Influence (OSI) following
  the 11 September attacks. The OSI's explicitly Orwellian
  mandate was to spread misinformation aimed at
  brainwashing the international press and influencing
  public opinion and political leaders in friendly as well
  as unfriendly countries (4). Reminiscent of the darkest
  years of the McCarthy era and the cold war, a virtual
  ministry of disinformation and propaganda, operating
  under the aegis of the US department, has been charged
  with disseminating an official version of the truth.
  Such activities are usually associated with the world's
  more grotesque dictatorships.

  The third front is military. The offensive opened after
  11 September and seeks to provide the globalisation
  movement with an effective security apparatus. The US was
  initially tempted to assign responsibility for this task
  to Nato but subsequently decided to go it alone; it has
  the means to do so with spectacular efficiency (see
  Paul-Marie de La Gorce). The war in Afghanistan against
  the Taliban and al-Qaida has convinced Washington that it
  would be futile given the scale of the undertaking to ask
  for more than token assistance from key military allies
  (such as the United Kingdom and France) or even Nato (5).

  Demonstrating its contempt, Washington neglected to
  consult its allies before declaring recently that a US
  attack on Iraq was imminent. High-level European
  protests, which have had no impact on the Bush
  administration, are already quietening down. Vassals are
  supposed to kneel in supplication, and the US aspires to
  exercise absolute political power. In some ways it is
  the first proto-global state, notes journalist William
  Pfaff. The US is already potentially the head of a
  modern version of universal empire a willing empire whose
  members are volunteers (6).

  The 

RE: Re: game theory

2002-03-21 Thread Devine, James

I wrote: 
Why is it that game theory focuses only on the 2x2 matrix type of game
(or the N-person game)? 

Gil answers:
 (it doesn't)
 
 or am I wrong to think that it is so one-tracked in its
 mind? 

Gil again:  
 In a word, yes.  The 2X2 games are primarily just used for 
 illustrative purposes.

yes, but do three- or four-person games ever produce useful results? are
other game metaphors used besides I move and you move of the standard
prisoner's dilemma box?  

I know about games such as the dollar auction, which probably can be
modelled using standard game-theory tools, but it's hardly ever mentioned
outside of books such as Poundstone's PRISONER'S DILEMMA. That book also
mentions various other games, including one invented by John Nash that
involved movement of pieces on boards divided into hexagonal spaces. (It was
sold commercially for awhile and seems the basis of Avalon-Hill-type war
games.) Are any of these various non-standard games given any kind of
attention? How about, as I mentioned in my original missive in this thread,
card games such as solitaire?

Am I right to say that game theorists concentrate only on the simplest
possible games, because those are the easiest to analyze? 

Jim Devine
think outside the box -- like our cats.




Re: New Democratic World

2002-03-21 Thread Sabri Oncu

Chris writes:

 This question concretely becomes one of whether
 the major transnational financial corporations
 would oppose a more peaceful, juster world. Not
 necessarily. They would be treacherous friends.
 They might tolerate a small measure of regulation
 in order to continue to extact superprofits on a
 world scale. Nevertheless some of them might temporarily
 support initiatives for a more stable, juster world.

I believe your theory and, based on that, your offered strategy
heavily depend on the above assumption. If this assumption is not
correct, then the rest collapses. Juster world, I don't know, but
of course some of them may want a stable and peaceful world, so
that they can continue their exploitation. It is also possible
that some of them support initiatives for a more unstable world
and war, again for the same reason. We will see, although I don't
expect a major inter-imperialist war any time soon. (By the way,
aren't there enough wars already?) However, I don't see how they
can be friends of any kind with the working class and other
working people, regardless of whether they are progressive or
not. I guess I spent too much time at large money management
firms. On another note, the working class and the working people
of the world already make more than 95% of the world population,
and an alliance among them is more than welcome. Why would I be
in this so-called antiglobalization movement, if I thought
otherwise?

As far as I can see, we are about to engage in the same old fight
between reformists and revolutionaries(not necessarily
Marxist-Leninists). I am sure everybody here heard enough of
such fights, so let us leave this at that.

Sabri




Re: RE: Re: game theory

2002-03-21 Thread Justin Schwartz


Am I right to say that game theorists concentrate only on the simplest
possible games, because those are the easiest to analyze?



Yes, but so do physicists. Quantum mechanics is essentially the theory of 
hydrogen atoms, helium at a stretch. No one has the faintest idea how to do 
the math for anything as complicated as gold, much less uranium.

jks

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RE: Re: RE: Re: game theory

2002-03-21 Thread Devine, James

 Am I right to say that game theorists concentrate only on 
 the simplest
 possible games, because those are the easiest to analyze?

jks:
 Yes, but so do physicists. Quantum mechanics is essentially the theory of 
 hydrogen atoms, helium at a stretch. No one has the faintest idea how to
do 
 the math for anything as complicated as gold, much less uranium.

yeah, there's an analogy with physics: the Newtonian two-body problem (with
one object rotating about another) is easy, but the three-body problem is
very difficult (unsolvable without special assumptions?) the four-body
problem?

But in economics, there are other ways analyze the world besides
micro-theory (including game theory), e.g., institutional analysis (with
endogenous tastes, etc.) where macro-phenomena shape and determine the
nature of micro-phenomena. We don't need to stick to the physics analogy,
micro-determinism, etc. Game theory should be treated as just one small
tool, not as the be-all and end-all of economics -- the way it is these
days, when it seems as if most orthodox economics Ph.D. dissertations are
about game theory. 

Down with all orthodoxies!
JD




Re: Re: New Democratic World

2002-03-21 Thread Carrol Cox



Sabri Oncu wrote:
 
 As far as I can see, we are about to engage in the same old fight
 between reformists and revolutionaries(not necessarily
 Marxist-Leninists). I am sure everybody here heard enough of
 such fights, so let us leave this at that.


Whether the fight takes that form or not depends (or should depend) on
given historical conditions. If we are talking about the U.S. I believe
the divide _at this time_ is between those whose hopes reside in a mass
movement (whether they think in terms of reform or revolution) and those
whose hopes reside in reforming or persuading various power centers
(The Democratic Party, the U.S. Ruling Class, the Central Committee of
the Chinese Communist Party, the Labour Party) to do good things. The
conflict between reform and revolution will remain, but it can be
put on the back burner as it were. To see the havoc putting that
conflict first does, subscribe to the AUT list. To see the havoc that
the hope to transform power centers does, just keep on reading the
poster you are responding to.

Carrol




BLS Daily Report

2002-03-21 Thread Richardson_D

BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, MARCH 21, 2002:

RELEASED TODAY:  The Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U)
rose 0.4 percent in February, before seasonal adjustment, to a level of
177.8 (1982-84=100), the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports.  For the
12-month period ended in February, the CPI-U increased 1.1 percent.  The
Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W)
increased 0.3 percent in February, prior to seasonal adjustment.  The
February level of 173.7 was 0.8 percent higher than the index in February
2001.

Real average weekly earnings decreased by 0.1 percent from January to
February after seasonal adjustment, according to preliminary data released
today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.  This decline was due to a 0.2
percent increase in the Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and
Clerical Workers (CPI-W), which was partially offset by a 0.1 percent
increase in average hourly earnings.  Average weekly hours were unchanged.

Higher prices for clothing, medical care and airline fares contributed to a
mild 0.2 percent rise in consumer inflation in February.  The advance in the
Consumer Price Index, a closely watched gauge of inflation, matched
January's increase, the Labor Department reports.  Excluding energy and food
prices, the core rate of inflation rose 0.3 percent in February, following
a 0.2 percent rise. Even with the slight pickup in consumer inflation,
falling prices for new cars and trucks, computers and home furnishings
provided shoppers with some bargains (Jeannine Aversa, Associated Press
http://www.nandotimes.com/business/story/316419p-2706517c.html).

A key gauge of U.S. economic activity remained flat in February following
four straight months of gains, suggesting a rocky economic recovery in the
months ahead, the New York-based Conference Board said as it reported that
its Index of Leading Economic Indicators remained steady at 112.4 last
month, following a revised 0.8 percent increase in January.  Analysts had
forecast a 0.1 percent gain. The U.S. economy has quickly turned from
recession and is now firmly in recovery, said Conference Board economist
Ken Goldstein.  But the road ahead is far from smooth, with sluggish
profits and weak export demand restraining growth (Hope Yen, Associated
Press, http://www.nypost.com/apstories/business/V6476.htm).

Housing starts rose in February to the highest level in more than 3 years,
government figures showed today, suggesting that the construction of new
homes will underpin a rebounding recovery.  At an annual pace, builders
began work on 1.769 million homes last month, up 2.8 percent from a 1.721
million rate in January, the Commerce Department said.  That is the most
homes started since December 1998 and reflects the fastest pace of
single-family housing construction in more than 23 years (Bloomberg News,
The New York Times, page C7).

Boosted by a sharp 7.4 percent gain in single-family homes, housing starts
in February zoomed to their fastest pace in more than 3 years, the
government said Wednesday, an encouraging sign for the emerging U.S.
economic recovery (The Wall Street Journal, page A2).

In a recently released study of the 10 industries that employed the most
women from 1995 to 2000, the General Accounting Office found that the gap
between the salaries of men and women had widened for managers in seven of
those sectors.  The largest widening was in entertainment and recreational
services, where female managers were earning just 62 cents for every dollar
made by a male manager in 2000, down from 83 cents in 1995. Only three
industries showed improvement for women -- albeit slight.  The biggest gain
was in educational services, where the figures rose to 91 cents on the
dollar, from 86 cents. The GAO report is supported by other studies,
including one conducted by the Women's Research and Education Institute in
Washington showing that overall managerial salaries for women slipped to
71.3 cents in 2000 from 78 cents in 1995. Variations in lifestyle choices
might justify the existence of a wage gap.  So, too, might the varying
levels of experience and managerial responsibility that the GAO study
couldn't measure. What these factors don't explain, however, is why the gap
has grown (Jeffrey L. Seglin, who teachers at Emerson College in Boston and
is the author of The Good, the Bad, and Your Business (John Wiley  Sons),
in The New York Times, March 17, Money  Business, page 4).

Louis Uchitelle calls inflation the wild card of the recovery in his
column in The New York Times, March 17, Money  Business, page 4, writing
under the heading Economic View. Inflation as measured by the Consumer
Price index fell precipitously to an annual rate of 1.1 percent in January
from 3.2 last June.  Rarely has inflation fallen that much, so quickly.
Wages went in the opposite direction.  Despite the recession, companies kept
giving raises, he contends.  There was still enough pressure 

Re: Re: Alzheimer's disease

2002-03-21 Thread miychi

On 2002.03.22 03:12 AM, Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I hope any relatives of sufferers will take cheer
 rather than offence in my passing on that the motto
 of the Irish Alzheimer's Disease Society is:
 
 Remember those who can't.
 
 dd
 
 Thanks for this. I was feeling bad for starting the topic after
 Jim's response.
 
 Best,
 Sabri
 
Comrade Sabri
 
Are you Alzhiemer's?
If it is so, very sad. But As psychiatrist, I recommend you to participate
in social activity, and take anti-inflammatory drug such as ibprofen.It
delays progress Alzhiemer'.
Yours sincerely
MIYACHI TATSUO
Psychiatric Department
Komaki municipal hosipital
1-20.JOHBUHSHI
KOMAKI CITY
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Roemer and Exploitation

2002-03-21 Thread Charles Brown

Roemer and Exploitation
by Veneziani,R (pgr)
20 March 2002 14:59 UTC  





CB NOTES: What does this formulation gain over private ownership of the basic 
means of production, or private property ?


RV: (1) in Roemer's model DOPA is necessary. This is not a theoretical 
statement but a technical one.
(2) DOPA stands for Differential Ownership of Productive Assets. The qualifier 
Private (making the acronym DPOPA) can be taken as granted.

This does not seem to me the weakest bit of Roemer's account.

^

CB: I am trying to determine whether Roemer is trying to differentiate what he is 
saying from the way Marx and Engels articulate this issue. Or does he believe he is 
making explicit something that Marx and Engels make implicit ? Or ? Why different 
words ?







RE: Re: Economists beware!

2002-03-21 Thread michael pugliese


 ...some men rob you with a six gun...others with a fountain
pen... Woody Guthrie on bankers. --- Original Message ---
From: Charles Jannuzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3/20/02 9:09:19 PM


  Italian guerilla group blamed for economist's murder

I condemn this brutal and senseless act of violence. Where
are the
investment bankers?

Well, they are busy either helping to run the government or
the businesses
that will further enrich Berlusconi. Like with the Bushes, it's
hard to tell
the difference.

Reminds me of a Housemartins' song:

Paupers will be paupers
Bankers will be bankers
Some save money in a jar
Some own oil tankers
Don't shoot someone tomorrow
That you can shoot today

A bit too incendiary, apparently, for the major label CD retrospective,
but
it was one of their catchiest songs.

Given that the real dangers to Italian democracy constantly
come from the
right, the story is prime for a conspiracy theory. Again, Berlusconi
benefits most from the guy's death. Now this one story I'd actually
like to
hear what Antonio Negri has to say.

Charles Jannuzi






FW: Re: AUT: Re: Berlusconi Government Aide Murdered in Italy

2002-03-21 Thread michael pugliese


--- Original Message ---
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Nestor=20McNab?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3/21/02 1:36:14 AM


There is a very good possibility that it is. I enclose the press
release of the COBAS Confederation (Italian base unions) which
makes interesting reading.

In solidarity,

nestor

 --- cwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Does anyone
else feel that this
might actually be another of the Italian
 governments 'sacrifice fly balls' to start a scare?  This
kind of stuff is
 very convenient at times when a crackdown looks to be in order.
 
 Chris
 
 
  Italian government aide murdered
 
 


PRESS RELEASE
 
Preceded by a bomb near the Ministry for Internal Affairs with
TV cameras
which saw nothing, pre-announced by a secret service report
which claimed
that government advisers were in the sights of terrorists, there
arrives, as
punctual as clockwork, the murder of Professor [Marco] Biagi,
who (by
yet another curious coincidence) had his armed escort in Bologna
removed
on 1st January last.

This exemplary action in its cold-blooded rituality of death
is a chilling
message to the entire labour movement, to all those who have
taken to the
streets to demonstrate against the policies of social restoration
on the part
of the centre-right government, those who are building the mobilization

towards the general strike. It is an explicit invitation to
stay at home...
As the government starts to topple under the weight of social
conflict the
bombs and murders start - once more the strategy of provocation
and/or
tension rears its head.

Whoever they may be, the murder is manna from heaven for the
Berluskoni 
government and Confindustria [the Employers' Federation] who
have already
started a reactionary backlash against the legitimate demands
of the
workers and the movement of struggle and have announced police
and
judicial reprisals against the social opposition.

The murder of Professor Biagi is intended to spread fear among
the workers
and throughout the country.

The Cobas [Base unions] will not allow themselves to be intimidated.
We
believe that we must double our efforts in the struggle until
such a time as
the government retracts the changes to Article 18 and Maroni's
White Book,
to pensions, severance pay, education and tax.

In the face of so much hesitation and withdrawals among the
ranks of the
mainstream unions, Cobas also believes that it is indispensable
to go
ahead with the General Strike of all workers at some point during
the
month of April (the 19th being the most probable date at the
moment),
a strike which needs to be reinforced through a national demonstration
in Rome.



For the COBAS CONFEDERATION
Pino Giampietro

[trans. NMcN for A-Infos]


=
In solidarity,


Nestor


http://www.geocities.com/nestor_mcnab/

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Re: RE: Re: game theory

2002-03-21 Thread Gil Skillman

Jim writes

yes, but do three- or four-person games ever produce useful results? are
other game metaphors used besides I move and you move of the standard
prisoner's dilemma box?  

Re the first question: for the most part, analyses of games that
generically feature several players are not limited to the three- or
four-person case.  Re the second question, yes, abundantly. Game theory
has provided the microfoundation for much, maybe most, of modern
microeconomics, and as such has been developed way, way beyond its simple
roots.

I know about games such as the dollar auction, which probably can be
modelled using standard game-theory tools, but it's hardly ever mentioned
outside of books such as Poundstone's PRISONER'S DILEMMA. That book also
mentions various other games, including one invented by John Nash that
involved movement of pieces on boards divided into hexagonal spaces. (It was
sold commercially for awhile and seems the basis of Avalon-Hill-type war
games.) Are any of these various non-standard games given any kind of
attention? How about, as I mentioned in my original missive in this thread,
card games such as solitaire?


Am I right to say that game theorists concentrate only on the simplest
possible games, because those are the easiest to analyze? 

In general, no.  They may start with the simplest cases, but usually extend
the results to the most general case possible.  For example, the analysis
of strategic bargaining models started with the bilateral, 2-player case,
but now has been extended to the n-player case.  Grab any recent graduate
text on game theory, Jim (Fudenberg and Tirole, and Myerson, are two good
ones), you'll see how general the development has been.

Gil




China Labour Bulletin on Oil Workers

2002-03-21 Thread michael pugliese


  http://www.iso.china-labour.org.hk/iso/article.adp?article_id=2059




Difference on evidence of deheimnisvolle der Warenform in firstedition and fourth edition of Capital

2002-03-21 Thread miychi
Title: Difference on evidence of deheimnisvolle der Warenform in first edition and fourth edition of Capital



On 2002.03.22 00:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 3/21/2002 6:42:04 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I've always liked this letter to Kugelmann. Very Hegelian. Very important stress on the importance of theory for revolutionary transformation. 

Whose translation is this? 

Andrew Kliman


Progress Publisher, Moscow 1969, Karl Marx and Frederick Engels Selected Works in three Volumes, Volume Two page 418. First Printing. 

I had looked up the letter on one of the Marx Archive (for easy copying) and it lacked the first three sentences. The above is not the entire letter, which I do not have a copy of. 

I read in the letter a definitive statement on value (magnitude) and exchange value (prices or exchange relations) and the approach to examining the essence of phenomena. Thus Marx states: 

The vulgar economist has not the faintest idea that the actual everyday exchange relations cannot be directly identical with the magnitudes of value.

The letter is reproduced below.

Marx to L. Kugelmann in Hanover
London, July 11, 1868 


. . . . As for the Centralblatt, the man is making the greatest possible 
concession in admitting that, if one means anything at all by value, the 
conclusion I draw must be accepted. The unfortunate fellow does not see that, 
even if there were no chapter on value in my book, the analysis of the real 
relations which I give would contain the proof and demonstrations of the real 
value relations. All that palaver about the necessity of proving the concept 
of value comes from complete ignorance both of the subject dealt with and of 
the scientific method.

Every child knows a nation which ceased to work, I will not say for a year, 
but even for a few weeks, would perish. Every child knows, too, that the 
masses of products corresponding to the different needs required different 
and quantitatively determined masses of the total labor of society. That this 
necessity of the distribution of social labor in definite proportions cannot 
possibly be done away with by a particular form of social production but can 
only change the mode of its appearance, is self-evident. No natural laws can 
be done away with. What can change in historically different circumstances is 
only the form in which these laws assert themselves. And the form in which 
this proportional distribution of labor asserts itself, in the state of 
society where the interconnection of social labor is manifested in the 
private exchange of the individual products of labor, is precisely the 
exchange value of these products. 

Science consists precisely in demonstrating how the law of value asserts 
itself. So that if one wanted at the very beginning to explain all the 
phenomenon which seemingly contradict that law, one would have to present 
science before science. It is precisely Ricardo's mistake that in his first 
chapter on value [On the Principles of Political Economy, and Taxation, Page 
479] he takes as given all possible and still to be developed categories in 
order to prove their conformity with the law of value. 

On the other hand, as you correctly assumed, the history of the theory 
certainly shows that the concept of the value relation has always been the 
same  more or less clear, hedged more or less with illusions or 
scientifically more or less definite. Since the thought process itself grows 
out of conditions, is itself a natural process, thinking that really 
comprehends must always be the same, and can vary only gradually, according 
to maturity of development, including the development of the organ by which 
the thinking is done. Everything else is drivel. 

The vulgar economist has not the faintest idea that the actual everyday 
exchange relations cannot be directly identical with the magnitudes of value. 
The essence of bourgeois society consists precisely in this, that a priori 
there is no conscious social regulation of production. The rational and 
naturally necessary asserts itself only as a blindly working average. And 
then the vulgar economist thinks he has made a great discovery when, as 
against the revelation of the inner interconnection, he proudly claims that 
in appearance things look different. In fact, he boasts that he holds fast to 
appearance, and takes it for the ultimate. Why, then, have any science at 
all? 

But the matter has also another background. Once the interconnection is 
grasped, all theoretical belief in the permanent necessity of existing 
conditions collapses before their collapse in practice. Here, therefore, it 
is absolutely in the interest of the ruling classes to perpetuate a senseless 
confusion. And for what other purpose are the sycophantic babblers paid, who 
have no other scientific trump to play save that in political economy one 
should not think at all? 

But satis superque [enough and 

Re: Re: Alzheimer's disease

2002-03-21 Thread Sabri Oncu

 Comrade Sabri

 Are you Alzheimer's?
 If it is so, very sad. But As psychiatrist, I recommend
 you to participate in social activity, and take
 anti-inflammatory drug such as ibprofen.It
 delays progress Alzheimer'.
 Yours sincerely
 MIYACHI TATSUO

Dear Miyachi,

I am not Alzheimer's but I suffer from a serious genetic disorder
I inherited from my grandfather through my father. Making
unnecessary jokes is the name of that disorder. I apologize for
any misunderstanding I might have caused.

Best,
Sabri

P.S: Carrol, Thanks for the correction. Hey, I really mean this
one.




RE: Re: RE: Re: game theory

2002-03-21 Thread Devine, James

I wrote: yes, but do three- or four-person games ever produce useful
results?  

Gil answers:... for the most part, analyses of games that generically
feature several players are not limited to the three- or four-person
case.

N-person games -- where N is large -- seem to produce relatively clear
predictions (given their assumptions, natch). (General equilibrium can be
seen as an N-person game, but that's hardly relevant empirically.) Do the
games where N is close to two (but greater than two) make clear predictions
that can be tested empirically? or do they produce results akin to those of
the 3-body problem in Newtonian mechanics? 

BTW, in reference to abstract theory, by useful I mean empirically
relevant. At UC Berkeley (where I went), on the other hand, useful is
often used to mean it allows me to get tenure or a publication under my
belt because it involves fancy math and/or it's similar to models that
prestigious people  get published. They forget that mathematical models are
at best internally-consistent metaphors for empirical reality. They are not
ways of describing the ideal forms that Plato saw as being behind the messy
phenomenal world, since those forms don't exist. (As with the question of
god's existence, I'm an agnostic on this question: but my working hypothesis
-- one that has worked so far -- is that the Platonic forms don't exist.)

are other game metaphors used besides I move and you move of the
standard prisoner's dilemma box?

... yes, abundantly. Game theory has provided the microfoundation for much,
maybe most, of modern microeconomics, and as such has been developed way,
way beyond its simple roots.

Since micro-theory is largely poor (i.e., highly ideological and utopian in
its assumptions), that's nothing to brag about. The best stuff, to my mind,
is the part on the limits of microeconmics, as with the critique of
microfoundations of macroeconmics. Cf. Alan P. Kirman, 1992. Whom or What
does the Representative Individual Represent? _Journal of Economic
Perspectives_. 6(2), Spring: 117-136. Another example is the classic theory
of the second best. 

Beyond this, the Walrasian stuff -- which meshes well with game theory and
currently forms the heart and soul of the official orthodoxy -- seems a step
backward from Marshall's more realistic partial equilibrium analysis. It's
no accident that a genius like Keynes learned from Marshall rather than
Walras and that Keynesian economics lost its coherence as people tried to
force it into a Walrasian framework. 

---

Again, I ask: are there any games besides the standard game theory ones
that provide usable metaphors for real-world processes? For example, I think
the dollar auction is a pretty good metaphor for the cold-war-type arms
race (as metaphors go). Or is that really just a version of the standard
game theory? 

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




RE: a report, albeit brief

2002-03-21 Thread Devine, James

It is good to see a good mix like this
where development issues are dealt at several levels.  I rarely find such
types of conf in the US.  There were of course those who liked the pecking
order (as Jim D would say) but nothing serious really.

The pecking order is Paul Krugman's phrase. He used it approvingly. 

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine



 -Original Message-
 From: Anthony D'Costa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 12:33 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PEN-L:24191] a report, albeit brief
 
 
 Michael Perelman asked me to report on the conference I 
 attended at U of
 Warwick in Coventry, UK last weekend.  It was on 
 Globalisation, Growth and
 In(equality), organized by the univ's Centre for Globalisation and
 Regionalisation.  Keynote speakers included Ravi Kanbur (of Cornell),
 Robert Wade of LSE, Adrian Wood from the UK government, Martin Khor of
 Third World Network, etc.  Most participants were trade 
 economists, political
 economists, and a few from various assorted fields.
 
 A good number of participants from the UK were policy makers, 
 engaged in
 issues of trade and aid.  There were a few World Bank 
 consultants from the
 UK side as well.  There were some of us who did sectoral 
 studies.  It was
 good to meet some folks whose writings I read as a grad 
 student.  Overall
 assessment of the conf: very good.  It is good to see a good 
 mix like this
 where development issues are dealt at several levels.  I 
 rarely find such
 types of conf in the US.  There were of course those who 
 liked the pecking
 order (as Jim D would say) but nothing serious really.
 
 My paper was on IT exports and inequality in India.  A non-rigorous
 approach to studying inequality but which I believe is easily captured
 with sectoral data.  I also gave a talk to non-academics 
 (mainly) at the U
 of Sheffield (Center for Japanese Studies) on Japanese industrial
 practices in the Indian auto industry.  It was nice to speak to an
 audience of about 35 people with far more time than the 20 
 min that conf
 typically allot you.
 
 London, as always, is a great walking city.  Always nice to have a
 resident give you a tour.  Violent crime apparently has 
 increased though
 crime as a whole has fallen, that was one item which was repeated a
 couple of times on TV.  The Race Relations Committee chair, a 
 British Sikh
 suggested forced integration (not his words).  Some policies are
 forthcoming based on the commission's report.
 
 I suppose the debate between Wade and Wolf were publihsed in 
 the Prospect
 (US edition).  It was in the UK edition.  My friend tells me 
 Wade had a
 problem with the numbers.  I guess I have to read it to see 
 what's being
 debated and how.
 
 Cheers, Anthony
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 Anthony P. D'Costa, Associate Professor
 Comparative International Development
 University of Washington  Campus Box 358436
 1900 Commerce Street
 Tacoma, WA 98402, USA
 
 Phone: (253) 692-4462
 Fax :  (253) 692-5718
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Apologies

2002-03-21 Thread Sabri Oncu

Michael,

I really got our Comrade Miyachi confused, didn't I? It was the
last thing I wanted to do or, better said, something I never
wanted to do. I had a Japanese friend during my graduate study
days and Miyachi reminds me of him: very nice guy from a totally
different world.

Best,
Sabri




Re: Apologies

2002-03-21 Thread Michael Perelman

I thought that his note showed a sincere caring.  He may have been
confused, but he seemed like a nice person, making a nice gesture.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 04:32:46PM -0800, Sabri Oncu wrote:
 Michael,
 
 I really got our Comrade Miyachi confused, didn't I? It was the
 last thing I wanted to do or, better said, something I never
 wanted to do. I had a Japanese friend during my graduate study
 days and Miyachi reminds me of him: very nice guy from a totally
 different world.
 
 Best,
 Sabri
 

-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Apologies

2002-03-21 Thread Charles Jannuzi


I wasn't following those threads closely, but I think , for one thing, he is
concerned with getting information and ideas in English back into Japanese
for those who can't read English. It's a real burden for those who take it
on. My hats off to him for all his efforts. There is far too much
disinformation about Japan and disinformation going into Japan from the
west.

Charles Jannuzi

Re: Apologies


 I thought that his note showed a sincere caring.  He may have been
 confused, but he seemed like a nice person, making a nice gesture.

 On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 04:32:46PM -0800, Sabri Oncu wrote:
  Michael,
 
  I really got our Comrade Miyachi confused, didn't I? It was the
  last thing I wanted to do or, better said, something I never
  wanted to do. I had a Japanese friend during my graduate study
  days and Miyachi reminds me of him: very nice guy from a totally
  different world.
 
  Best,
  Sabri
 

 --
 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929

 Tel. 530-898-5321
 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Re: Re: Alzheimer's disease

2002-03-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/21/2002 3:23:50 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I hope any relatives of sufferers will take cheer
 rather than offence in my passing on that the motto
 of the Irish Alzheimer's Disease Society is:
 
 "Remember those who can't".
 
 dd
 
 Thanks for this. I was feeling bad for starting the topic after
 Jim's response.
 
 Best,
 Sabri
 
Comrade Sabri

Are you Alzhiemer's?
If it is so, very sad. But As psychiatrist, I recommend you to participate
in social activity, and take anti-inflammatory drug such as ibprofen.It
delays progress Alzhiemer'.
Yours sincerely
MIYACHI TATSUO
Psychiatric Department
Komaki municipal hosipital
1-20.JOHBUHSHI
KOMAKI CITY
AICHI PREF.
486-0044
TEL:0568-76-4131
FAX 0568-76-4145
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Is Alzheimer's "Metal poisoning disease," in terms of its impact upon the brain? Not a joke. My mother in law suffers from it but I was involved in the health care movement outside of bourgeois frameworks. It's theoretical. 


Melvin P.


Re: Difference on evidence of deheimnisvolle der Warenform in f...

2002-03-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/21/2002 4:34:46 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



In a message dated 3/21/2002 6:42:04 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I've always liked this letter to Kugelmann. Very Hegelian. Very important stress on the importance of theory for revolutionary transformation. 

Whose translation is this? 

Andrew Kliman



Progress Publisher, Moscow 1969, Karl Marx and Frederick Engels Selected Works in three Volumes, Volume Two page 418. First Printing. 

I had looked up the letter on one of the Marx Archive (for easy copying) and it lacked the first three sentences. The above is not the entire letter, which I do not have a copy of. 

I read in the letter a definitive statement on value (magnitude) and exchange value (prices or exchange relations) and the approach to examining "the essence" of phenomena. Thus Marx states: 

"The vulgar economist has not the faintest idea that the actual everyday exchange relations cannot be directly identical with the magnitudes of value."

The letter is reproduced below.

Marx to L. Kugelmann in Hanover
London, July 11, 1868 


. . . . As for the Centralblatt, the man is making the greatest possible 
concession in admitting that, if one means anything at all by value, the 
conclusion I draw must be accepted. The unfortunate fellow does not see that, 
even if there were no chapter on "value" in my book, the analysis of the real 
relations which I give would contain the proof and demonstrations of the real 
value relations. All that palaver about the necessity of proving the concept 
of value comes from complete ignorance both of the subject dealt with and of 
the scientific method.

Every child knows a nation which ceased to work, I will not say for a year, 
but even for a few weeks, would perish. Every child knows, too, that the 
masses of products corresponding to the different needs required different 
and quantitatively determined masses of the total labor of society. That this 
necessity of the distribution of social labor in definite proportions cannot 
possibly be done away with by a particular form of social production but can 
only change the mode of its appearance, is self-evident. No natural laws can 
be done away with. What can change in historically different circumstances is 
only the form in which these laws assert themselves. And the form in which 
this proportional distribution of labor asserts itself, in the state of 
society where the interconnection of social labor is manifested in the 
private exchange of the individual products of labor, is precisely the 
exchange value of these products. 

Science consists precisely in demonstrating how the law of value asserts 
itself. So that if one wanted at the very beginning to "explain" all the 
phenomenon which seemingly contradict that law, one would have to present 
science before science. It is precisely Ricardo's mistake that in his first 
chapter on value [On the Principles of Political Economy, and Taxation, Page 
479] he takes as given all possible and still to be developed categories in 
order to prove their conformity with the law of value. 

On the other hand, as you correctly assumed, the history of the theory 
certainly shows that the concept of the value relation has always been the 
same — more or less clear, hedged more or less with illusions or 
scientifically more or less definite. Since the thought process itself grows 
out of conditions, is itself a natural process, thinking that really 
comprehends must always be the same, and can vary only gradually, according 
to maturity of development, including the development of the organ by which 
the thinking is done. Everything else is drivel. 

The vulgar economist has not the faintest idea that the actual everyday 
exchange relations cannot be directly identical with the magnitudes of value. 
The essence of bourgeois society consists precisely in this, that a priori 
there is no conscious social regulation of production. The rational and 
naturally necessary asserts itself only as a blindly working average. And 
then the vulgar economist thinks he has made a great discovery when, as 
against the revelation of the inner interconnection, he proudly claims that 
in appearance things look different. In fact, he boasts that he holds fast to 
appearance, and takes it for the ultimate. Why, then, have any science at 
all? 

But the matter has also another background. Once the interconnection is 
grasped, all theoretical belief in the permanent necessity of existing 
conditions collapses before their collapse in practice. Here, therefore, it 
is absolutely in the interest of the ruling classes to perpetuate a senseless 
confusion. And for what other purpose are the sycophantic babblers paid, who 
have no other scientific trump to play save that in political economy one 
should not think at all? 

But satis superque [enough and to spare]. In any case it shows what these 
priests of the bourgeoisie have 

signing off

2002-03-21 Thread Peter Dorman

I'm signing off PEN-L for the spring, since I'll be on leave, and it's a
bother to download large numbers of e-mail messages on my college's
web-based mail server.  If anyone needs to reach me for any reason, you
can still send mail to me individually.

Bon voyage, moi.

Peter