Re: Fw: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu

 Forwarding stuff by right-wingers (like another
 Canadian columnist, whose name escapes me now
 who was anti-NATO during the anti-Milosevic
 bombing campaign and had in earlier years done
 lotsa agit-prop for Jonas Savimbi) is well...

 Michael Pugliese

Michael,

I don't know who the above Canadian columnist whose name escapes
you is but I am anti-Nato too and against Milosevic's being tried
for war crimes at Hauge, for example. Those who are trying him
have no right to do so unless they are willing to sit in the same
chair he is sitting, Clinton and Madam Not-so-bright included,
and this has nothing to do with whether Milosovic committed any
crimes or not. Kemal committed many crimes too but he did not
sit in a chair for any trial, for example. Kemal won his war
after all.

Now, does this make me a right-winger? To put it differently, are
all of those who are anti-Nato and anti-anti-Milosevic
right-wingers?

By the way, being anti-anti-Milosevic is not being pro-Milosevic,
just as being anti-anti-Kemalist does not mean being Kemalist,
for your information.

Could it be possible that you attempt to sum apples and oranges
every once in a while or is it just my imagination?

Best,
Sabri




Re: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi

Sabri,

Put me in the anti-NATO camp and I'd send Milosevich home to Serbia if it
were up to me, since they could sort it out far better.

I'd say using the sort of reasoning which props up US foreign policy and the
use of its deadly power, Milosevic has not only argued his case well but won
it. Milosevic is far from the worst the 20th century gave us and he is on
trial while many others who should be aren't. The irony is, had he been
taken seriously in the first place, things would never have got so far out
of hand.
That's one problem with the 'imperial presidency' approach since the Reagan
era. The US regimes think if they engage people they disagree with or
dislike at a top diplomatic level (and the zealots at the State Department
have a lot to do with this), not only does it raise their opponent, but it
lowers the regal status of the office.

And just look at that part of the world now. No wonder more and more living
in the wreck of what was all of Yugoslavia are getting nostalgic. You never
know what you had til you've lost it. Be careful what you wish for, you
might get it. Etc. Etc.
I'm sure I'll get bombarded with all sorts of statistics and analysis
(probably from analysts at merchant banks, right) about what progress former
Yugoslav countries are making, but I'll believe it when they are ready to
host another Olympics.

Charles Jannuzi




US tax dollars NOT at work (was re: Nader)

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi

I'm sure Sawicky will want to discuss the House of Harkonnen or the BEIC or
something, but just to back up my point about the overall inefficiencies of
letting companies fill government services, at least the American way, let's
just start with Carlyle Group's IT Group (recently sold to Shaw Group, who
apparently wants IT Group to clean up oil and chemical messes for companies
that buy from Shaw Group).
Anyway, how many other companies have such huge backlogs on their government
contracts? Well, let me find out. I'll keep looking and posting. You know
for sure there must be problems with all the gov't contracts Enron and
Global Crossing got. Here is IT Group (interesting for a number of reasons
including that it specializes in parasitizing tax dollars, as many CG
holdings do):


http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=105STORY=/www/story/10-06
-2000/0001332023

  The IT Group Revises Earnings Outlook

Year-End Debt Level of $625 Million Expected to be Achieved

Backlog Projected to Grow to Record $5 Billion Range

PITTSBURGH, Oct. 6 /PRNewswire/ -- The IT Group, Inc. (the Company) (NYSE:
ITX) announced today that it expects earnings per share in the third quarter
of 2000 to be between $0.17 and $0.20.  The Company also said that it now
anticipates that fourth quarter earnings per share will be in the $0.25 to
$0.30 range.  The revised 2000 outlook now anticipates ranges for revenues
of $1.42 to $1.45 billion, operating cash flow of $148 to $152 million and
earnings per share of $0.75 to $0.83.  Cash earnings per share for the year
are anticipated to be in the range of $1.15 to $1.23. Anthony J. DeLuca,
chief executive officer and president of The IT Group, said, Our revised
outlook is due primarily to a revenue shortfall resulting from what the
Company believes are short-term project start-up delays caused by various
client and regulatory issues, technical personnel shortages and unexpected
federal government funding delays in our Outsourced Services business.  In
addition, earnings in the third quarter have been negatively impacted by
poor performance on two projects which are now complete and the delay in the
completion of certain real estate restoration transactions, most of which
are expected to close in the fourth quarter.

Backlog Growth Recently the Company has successfully bid a diverse range of
major and strategically important new programs.  The Company is nearing the
completion of negotiations for a $200 million, 30-year operations and
maintenance program at a major Superfund site, which provides for advance
funding of approximately $38 million.  We believe negotiations for this
program can be concluded in the next week and will be the subject of a
separate announcement, Mr. DeLuca continued.  We are also currently in the
negotiation phase of several federal facility management contracts, the
awards of which are expected to be announced in the fourth quarter.  With
these and other wins, the Company expects to report a record level of
backlog approaching $5 billion by the end of the year.  The backlog
strength, combined with anticipated federal government appropriation
increases in 2001, we believe positions the Company well for the future.

Deleveraging Plan Although operating cash flow will be short of earlier
projections, we remain confident a debt level of approximately $625 million
at year end can be achieved.  Our confidence is supported by continued
progress in working capital management, including the Superfund site program
advance funding mentioned above, which is expected to be received in
December, as well as the proposed sale of certain non-core assets.  With an
increase in third quarter revenue over second quarter revenue, the Company's
focus on working capital management is expected to result in a debt level at
the end of the third quarter consistent with the debt level at the June
quarter end, Mr. DeLuca concluded. The IT Group, Inc. is a leading provider
of a comprehensive range of outsourced services addressing the
infrastructure, consulting, engineering and construction, water, civil works
and facilities management needs of a broad variety of public and private
sector clients.  Additional information about The IT Group can be found on
their new web site at http://www.theitgroup.com .  The IT Group's common
stock and depositary shares are traded on the New York Stock Exchange under
the symbol ITX and ITXpr, respectively. Statements regarding the intentions,
beliefs, expectations or predictions of The IT Group, Inc. and its
management, including, but not limited to, those statements denoted by the
words anticipate, believe, expect, should, confidence and similar
expressions are forward-looking statements that reflect the current views of
The IT Group and its management about future events and are subject to
certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Actual results could differ
materially from those projected in such forward-looking statements as a
result of a number 

Re: US tax dollars NOT at work (was re: Nader)

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi

You might ask, if IT Group has so much trouble filling the work it's been
contracted for, how in the freak does it get so many contracts. I wish I had
no idea, though knowing what I know about Carlyle Group holdings, it seems
pretty obvious: insider connections, perhaps even phone calls from former
government officials to current government officials. The revolving doors
prefected Carlyle style. This company smells of Enron, too.

http://www.prnewswire.com/gh/cnoc/comp/141700.html



The IT Group Jul-31-2001 NEW STORY  The IT Group Announces World's First
Commercial Capstone Microturbine Landfill Gas System for Burbank, California
Jul-17-2001  The IT Group Awarded $31 Million Everglades Watershed
Restoration Project Jul-16-2001  The IT Group Announces Second Quarter
Financial Results Conference Call And Webcast Jul-9-2001  The IT Group
Announces an Agreement to Form a Joint Company With Hydro Quebec To Serve
the Hydroelectric Power Industry in the U.S. Jun-1-2001  The IT Group, Inc.
Declares Quarterly Dividend on Cumulative Convertible Exchangeable Preferred
Stock May-3-2001  The IT Group Announces the Award of an Air Force Contract
Valued At $100 Million Apr-18-2001  The IT Group Announces First Quarter
Financial Results Conference Call And Webcast Apr-4-2001  The IT Group
Announces Award of $14 Million Design/Build Contract for The National Park
Service Mar-12-2001  The IT Group Provides Additional Information About $3
Billion, 50-Year Military Family Housing Privatization Project at Fort
Meade, Maryland Mar-7-2001  The IT Group Announces Award of First Phase of
50-Year Military Family Housing Privatization Project at Fort Meade,
Maryland Valued at Approximately $3 Billion Mar-1-2001  The IT Group, Inc.
Declares Quarterly Dividend on Cumulative Convertible Exchangeable Preferred
Stock Feb-14-2001  The IT Group Announces Fourth Quarter and Year-End
Financial Results Conference Call and Webcast Jan-18-2001  The IT Group
Enters Agreement for Sale of Excess Northern California Land For $12 Million
Jan-16-2001  Robert Perciasepe, Assistant Administrator of EPA, to Join The
IT Group As Vice President, Consulting and Technology Jan-16-2001  The IT
Group Announces $42 Million in Commercial Project Awards Including
Strategically Important Watershed Restoration Projects Jan-10-2001  The IT
Group Implements Strategy to Accelerate the Resolution of Project Claims and
Monetize Non-Core Assets with Expectations of Generating $30 to $35 Million
for Debt Paydown Jan-3-2001  The IT Group Announces Selection for Air Force
Environmental Engineering Contract of Up to $25 Million Dec-13-2000  The IT
Group Announces Court Approval of $200 Million Water Treatment Operations
and Maintenance Agreement at Iron Mountain Mines Superfund Site In
California Dec-12-2000  The IT Group Announces Alliance with Environmental
Network International to Develop Customized Web-Based Procurement System
Dec-1-2000  The IT Group, Inc. Declares Quarterly Dividend on Cumulative
Convertible Exchangeable Preferred Stock Nov-30-2000  The IT Group and WETCO
Agree to Provide New Environmental Remediation Technologies and Services to
Agribusiness Nov-28-2000  The IT Group Announces Award of Up to $26 Million
EPA Technical Support Contract Oct-23-2000  The IT Group Announces Award of
Up to $145 Million Army Facility Management Contract Oct-19-2000  The IT
Group Announces $200 Million Water Treatment Operations and Maintenance
Agreement at Iron Mountain Mines Superfund Site in California Oct-19-2000
The IT Group to Release Third Quarter Financial Results and Broadcast
Investor Call Live Over the Internet Oct-6-2000  The IT Group Revises
Earnings Outlook Sep-28-2000  The IT Group Announces the Award of $65
Million EPA Contract Sep-25-2000  The IT Group Announces Award of Four
Outsourcing Contracts Totaling $36.6 Million From the Department of Defense
Sep-22-2000  The IT Group Awarded $5.9 Million Watershed Restoration
Contract For The Everglades Program Sep-13-2000  The IT Group Awarded $11
Million Contract at Oak Ridge Department of Energy Facility Sep-1-2000  The
IT Group, Inc. Declares Quarterly Dividend on Cumulative Convertible
Exchangeable Preferred Stock Jun-13-2000  The IT Group and the Carlyle Group
Announce Two Million Share Stock Purchase Program Jun-7-2000  The IT Group
Announces the Award of a $200 Million Air Force Center For Environmental
Excellence AE Contract Jun-1-2000  The IT Group, Inc. Declares Quarterly
Dividend on Cumulative Convertible Exchangeable Preferred Stock May-9-2000
The IT Group Announces $29 Million Contract Award for Stapleton Airport
Remediation May-1-2000  The IT Group Announces Award of $24 Million Contract
for City of Fresno Apr-27-2000  The IT Group, Inc. Reports On-Target First
Quarter 2000 Results Apr-11-2000  The IT Group Announces Awards of Up to
$110 Million in Army and Navy Outsourcing and Design/Build Contracts
Apr-5-2000  The IT Group Signs E-Business Agreement With Pratt  Whitney
Apr-4-2000  The IT Group 

EGG: another Carlyle Group holding cleaning up on terror

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi

Not too long ago we were discussing (two of us were anyway) EGG as another
Carlyle Group holding that warranted more investigation.

One EGG-related story is like something out of the X-Files (an analogy that
comes frequently to mind when you start researching the Carlyle Group).
Apparently their private army out in Nevada went on strike for higher wages.
This part of EGG provides security to top-secret military facilities north
of Las Vegas. It's hard to see it as a victory for American labor, since it
was an in-house union whose members dress like Serb militia and say things
like, if you find out what I do, I'll have to kill you.

The most interesting part of EGG (for me anyway) is their lock on airport
x-ray detection equipment. It looks to be a monopoly actually, now that they
have acquired Vivid. Also, more on this later, they apparently have moved
into the area of 'biodetection', an area that will apparently include
tie-ups with Japanese companies because they are the leaders. Still, look
for EGG and/or another Carlyle Group holding getting the right to market
things like anthrax detectors to the US government.

 http://instruments.perkinelmer.com/overview/background-ds.asp?s=1ss=3



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To provide our customers with the highest level of service through:

Consistent evolution of imaging and detection technologies  Continuous
improvement of manufacturing processes  Technical and commercial support

Our aim is to be the market leader in each of our business elements and
geographic markets.

BACKGROUND

Formerly known as EGG Astrophysics, PerkinElmer Detection Systems is the
world's leading supplier of X-ray security screening systems and metal
detectors. The company has been providing security equipment to airports,
correctional institutions, government agencies, courthouses, hospitals and
schools for over 25 years. More than two-thirds of all commercial airports
in the world utilize PerkinElmer (EGG) X-ray technology to screen luggage
for explosives, firearms, other weapons and drugs.

As a division of PerkinElmer, PerkinElmer Detection Systems has access to
extensive search and development facilities as well as a large resource
base. PerkinElmer Detection Systems is dedicated to providing
state-of-the-art X-ray technology unmatched in the industry.

The Company also provides a worldwide network of technical support and
customer service representatives available 24 hours a day, 365 days a year,
to meet customers' needs effectively and efficiently. PerkinElmer Detection
Systems' extensive product line includes:

Conventional X-ray Systems  Advanced X-ray Systems  Cargo Screening Systems
Metal Detectors  Training and Testing Systems

In January of 2000, EGG Astrophysics was merged with Vivid Technologies,
Inc. of Woburn Massachusetts to form PerkinElmer Detection Systems. Vivid
Technologies, Inc. was founded in 1989 by X-ray security system experts who
pioneered the development of airport X-ray in the early 1970s. Vivid became
a leading developer, manufacturer and marketer of automated explosives and
contraband detection systems. Utilizing dual energy X-ray technology,
Vivid's systems can be configured to meet the checked baggage screening
needs of the world's busiest airports.

Through June 30, 1999, Vivid had shipped and installed approximately 380
systems including 100 Model APS for hand baggage and parcel inspection.
Vivid's systems have been selected for use in 21 countries including at 42
airports such as London's Heathrow and Gatwick Airports, Brussels Airport,
Paris' Charles de Gaulle and Orly Airports, Zurich Airport, Amsterdam
Schiphol Airport, Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Malaysia, Hong Kong
International Airport at Chek Lap Kok and Terminal One at JFK International
Airport in New York.

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Thu., 4/18: Peace Activism during the War on Terrorism

2002-04-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

Critical Perspectives on Wars, Classes,  Empires

Peace Activism during the War on Terrorism

Speaker: Eric Swank

Eric Swank -- a professor of sociology at Morehead State University 
and researcher who has published on media portrayals of peace 
movements and attitudes of Gulf War protesters -- will discuss his 
current research on what motivates anti-war activists.  His talk will 
explore the ways in which collective identities, political 
conversations, interpretations of the military, outlooks on 
authorities, and family upbringings influence the desire to protest 
the War on Terrorism.

(Cf. Prof. Swank's vita: http://people.morehead-st.edu/fs/e.swank/vita.html)

Thursday, April 18, 5:00 p.m.
115 Stillman, OSU, 1947 College Rd., Columbus, OH

Sponsors: the Student International Forum and Social Welfare Action Alliance.
OSU Campus map: http://www.osu.edu/map/linkbuildings/stillmanhall.html.
Calendar of Events: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/calendar.html.
For more info, contact Yoshie Furuhashi at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 
614-668-6554; or Keith Kilty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 614-292-7181.

Download the flyer for the event at 
http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/swank.doc.
Download the flyer for other upcoming SIF/SWAA events at 
http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/calendar10.doc.
Please spread the word!
-- 
Yoshie

* Calendar of Events in Columbus: 
http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/calendar.html
* Anti-War Activist Resources: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/activist.html
* Student International Forum: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/
* Committee for Justice in Palestine: http://www.osu.edu/students/CJP/




Difference between corporations and party responsibility

2002-04-16 Thread miychi

On 2002.04.16 07:28 AM, Ian Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PEN-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:11 PM
 Subject: [PEN-L:24950] Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism
 
 
 Miyachi wrote:
 
 From the viewpoint of Stalinism, the content of
 centralization of power is not considered as a pair
 of centralization of leadership and decentralization
 of responsibility, but only centralization of leadership
 has been put forward.
 
 Dear Miyachi,
 
 I have served at a few of the most Stalinist institutions in the
 world: US financial corporations. They talked about
 centralization of leadership and decentralization of
 responsibility incessantly. This is the way the US financial
 corporations are organized and I doubt that non-financial
 corporations are significantly different. Responsibility without
 authority is one of the most painful experiences I have ever had,
 where, in this context, with authority I mean ability to make
 decisions.
 
 What is the point of decentralized responsibility if those who
 are responsible have no ability to make decisions?
 
 Best,
 Sabri
 =
 
 To protect the leadership. It's called the musical chairs theory of
 unaccountability.
 
 Ian
 
Thank you for your reply
As for decentralized responsibility, party cell duty is regular report to
central committee and maintain  party's program. If he has not ability to
this duty, simply he must give up, or choose to change his duty. Here no
command exists. Only member's will and passion is required. In a sense This
type of organization is network-type like Al-Qaeda. On the contrary, for
example, in US financial corporations as you, You may decision business
yourself, but you must seek profit in decentralized responsibility. If you
fail to raise profit, you fire. It is the difference between party and
corporation. In reality you obey  corporations as unpaid worker but wage
form of payment hide this ruler-ruled relationship. Below is from Capital

The wage-form thus extinguishes every trace of the division of the
working-day into necessary labour and surplus-labour, into paid and unpaid
labour. All labour appears as paid labour. In the corvée, the labour of the
worker for himself, and his compulsory labour for his lord, differ in space
and time in the clearest possible way. In slave 1abour, even that part of
the working-day in which the slave is only replacing the value of his own
means of existence, in which, therefore, in fact, he works for himself
alone, appears as labour for his master. All the slave's labour appears as
unpaid labour. [8] In wage labour, on the contrary, even surplus-labour, or
unpaid labour, appears as paid. There the property-relation conceals the
labour of the slave for himself; here the money-relation conceals the
unrequited labour of the wage labourer.

Hence, we may understand the decisive importance of the transformation of
value and price of labour-power into the form of wages, or into the value
and price of labour itself. This phenomenal form, which makes the actual
relation invisible, and, indeed, shows the direct opposite of that relation,
forms the basis of all the juridical notions of both labourer and
capitalist, of all the mystifications of the capitalistic mode of
production, of all its illusions as to liberty, of all the apologetic shifts
of the vulgar economists.

If history took a long time to get at the bottom of the mystery of wages,
nothing, on the other hand, is more easy to understand than the necessity,
the raison d' etre, of this phenomenon.

The exchange between capital and labour at first presents itself to the mind
in the same guise as the buying and selling of all other commodities. The
buyer gives a certain sum of money, the seller an article of a nature
different from money. The jurist's consciousness recognizes in this, at
most, a material difference, expressed in the juridically equivalent
formula: Do ut des, do ut facias, facio ut des, facio ut facias. [9]
 
Regards
MIYACHI TATSUO
Psychiatric Department
Komaki municipal hosipital
1-20.JOHBUHSHI
KOMAKI CITY
AICHI PREF.
486-0044
TEL:0568-76-4131
FAX 0568-76-4145
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 





Anti-coup and mass demonstration

2002-04-16 Thread miychi

On 2002.04.16 06:24 AM, Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In leftist theory, democratic centralism refers to the organization of the
 revolutionary political party. The theory says that when a party's
 membership decides on a policy (a line, a program) it is binding on members
 of that party, including its leadership. Though they may disagree with it at
 party forums, they should not do so openly, when non-party people are
 around. 
 
 Though there are likely organizations in Venezuela that are organized in a
 democratic centralist way, the mass demonstrations in favor of Chavez
 don't fit that description unless they are simply as part of a party. It
 looks to me instead that there's a lot of spontaneity going on. That is,
 people were demonstrating in favor of Chavez because they liked him, not
 because they belonged to a party-type organization. The Bolivarist
 organization did not simply orchestrate the anti-coup movements. (Of course,
 if my facts are wrong, I'd like to be told.)
 
 BTW, in practice, most democratic centralist organizations end up not
 being democratic. The rank and file end up being manipulated by the central
 committee or its leader, i.e., end up being passive followers rather than
 active, democratic, participants.
 
 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Charles Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PEN-L:24943] Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)
 ...
 G'day Charles,
 
 Sorry, Rob, Leninist democratic centralism is alive and well in
 Venezuela , where all power resides with the masses  and
 their elected
 representatives in the CENTER !  Viva Bolivarian Bolshevism !
 
 Either we're talking about different 'democratic centralisms' or we're
 watching different Venezuelas.  Or both.
 
 ^
 
 CB: I'm talking about  V.I. Lenin, leader of the Bolsheviks
 and the Russian Revolution in 1917, and his theory of
 democratic centralism, which is very well demonstrated by the
 overwhelming majority of the masses of people in Venezuela
 since 1998 and their authentic representatives in the Party
 led by President Chavez. What are you talking about ?
 
 ^^^
 
 
 So much for bloody , middle class,  fake democracy.
  
 
 Er, at least I tried to attach an argument to my speculative rant ...
 
 ^^^
 
 CB: The evidence for my argument is all over the world news
 for the last few days, and specifics of the argument should
 occur to you without my spelling out for you , but here it
 is.   The middle class mass that demonstrated and gave a
 pretext for the coup by the Venezuelan oligarchy, represented
 a minority of the whole population, and thus democracy in
 this situation was represented by Chavez and his
 organizations. The masses in the streets backed up their
 center. About as vivid an example of democratic centralism as
 there ever was.
 
  Of course, the masses have to have a republican structure ,
 i.e. it is not direct democracy, in their struggle with the
 bourgeoisie. They have to have leaders because the struggle
 with the bourgeois requires strategy and tactics, in analogy
 to a military conflict.  The class struggle has aspects that
 are like war ( Should be obvious from the whole history of
 the 20th Century).  It is democracy with a socalled center:
 democratic centralism.  This term was originated by Lenin,
 and Venezuela's governing Party is good example of its
 practice since 1998.
 
 
I don't know detail of Venezuela's coup and return Chavez. But Important is
non-party mass demonstration, which often go ahead of party action. In 1917,
Anti-war, anti-poverty demonstration mount to reach top in August, when
Lenin did not prepare or decide uprising. After these demonstrations,Lenin
returned to Russia and decide uprising. So real historical process is never
determined from one party's program or action. Party and mass action
dialectically intensify each other and in final stage, part of party
apparatus(probably military) and part of non-party mass attack and destroy
enemy's central power.
Regards
MIYACHI TATSUO
Psychiatric Department
Komaki municipal hosipital
1-20.JOHBUHSHI
KOMAKI CITY
AICHI PREF.
486-0044
TEL:0568-76-4131
FAX 0568-76-4145
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Whores of war

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi

I stole that title from the name of a website that led me to the latimes
article.

Anyone want to guess how many of these companies are at least partly owned
by Carlyle Group (though some go back to its 'competitors') ? Better get a
pencil and a notepad.

One has to wonder how much of this spending shows up as foreign aid in the
budget?

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-26555apr14.story

April 14, 2002   Talk about it  E-mail story  Print

THE NATION U.S. Companies Hired to Train Foreign Armies

Times Headlines

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more 

By ESTHER SCHRADER, TIMES STAFF WRITER

WASHINGTON -- When the Pentagon talks about training the new Afghan National
Army, it doesn't mean with its own soldiers. The Green Berets and other
elite U. S. troops are needed elsewhere. Instead, the Defense Department is
drawing up plans to use its commandos to jump-start the Afghan force, then
hire private military contractors to finish the job.

It would be the most vital role yet taken on by a somewhat clandestine
industry accustomed to operating on the fringe of U. S. foreign policy by
training foreign armies. As the United States pushes its antiterrorism
campaign beyond Afghanistan, the role of these private companies promises to
grow right along with it.

The war on terrorism is the full employment act for these guys, said D. B.
Des Roches, spokesman for the Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation
Agency. A little-known but increasingly essential addition to the modern
battlefield, the firms, studded with retired American generals, have been
training the world's more ragtag armies since the 1970s when a group of
Vietnam veterans discovered that there was money to be made marketing
military expertise--and sold Saudi Arabia on a plan to teach its army how to
guard its oil fields.

Business has burgeoned in the messy post-Cold War world. The
firms--modern-day mercenary companies armed with Powerpoint presentations
instead of weapons--operate today in more than 40 countries, often under
contract to the U. S. government.

For the Pentagon, with one-third fewer soldiers than a decade ago but a
growing number of entanglements in unlikely places, hiring out the training
of foreign armies has become indispensable. Every U. S. military operation
in the post-Cold War era has involved significant levels of support from
private military firms, from the Persian Gulf to Somalia, Zaire, Haiti,
Bosnia, Kosovo and Croatia.

But the industry has met with growing criticism by military experts who
charge that the firms work with little oversight and less accountability,
particularly when hired by foreign governments.

Plans to use the firms in Afghanistan are still preliminary. Although
training of an Afghan military force has begun, there is no timetable for
turning the task over to contractors. With Afghanistan still volatile,
Pentagon officials are grappling with just how private trainers, who
typically do not carry weapons, should be employed.

Since Sept. 11 and the Pentagon's launch of the war on terrorism, the stock
prices of the publicly traded contractors have soared. Already, trainers
from private military companies are in the former Soviet republic of
Georgia, where Al Qaeda operatives are believed to be hiding. Executives of
several private military companies have met with Pentagon officials about
training other armies in Central Asia.

A lot of people have said, 'Ding ding ding, gravy train,'  Des Roches
said. But in point of fact, it makes sense. They're probably better at
doing these sorts of missions than anyone else I could think of.

Boasts retired Army Lt. Gen. Harry E. Soyster, an executive at MPRI, the
most prominent of the private contractors: We've got more generals per
square foot here than in the Pentagon.

Although the most successful of the U. S. firms carefully screen their
employees, prohibit them from carrying arms and generally reject contracts
with governments the U. S. considers unsavory, they operate in a world
populated by a darker breed of ex-soldiers who serve as guns for hire to
thugs throughout the world. Competing military companies in Britain and
South Africa have hired out their employees as combatants in Angola and
Sierra Leone. And employees of the U. S. companies have sometimes taken up
weapons themselves, employees of the firms say.

We're talking about places where the governments have very little control
over their territory . . . where our government has no control over what
these firms tell the sometimes very questionable people they work for about
how to fight, said Deborah Avant, professor of political science at George
Washington University and an authority on the role of the private sector in
war. The more and more we put these people in riskier and riskier areas,
the 

jobs for oxymorons

2002-04-16 Thread Ann Li


History/Programming: The International Spy Museum. Washington, D.C. The
International Spy Museum is the first public museum in the United States
solely dedicated to the tradecraft, history and contemporary role of
espionage. The 60,000 square foot project located in Washington, DC expects
to attract 500,000 visitors per year when it opens in June 2002. The museum
will celebrate the art of spy craft by establishing itself as a leader in
collecting, researching, and exhibiting artifacts as well as creating
interactive and evolving displays relating to espionage. This is a
for-profit museum. We have an immediate opening for an Historian/Programmer.
You will research, develop, organize, and conduct public programs for the
general public, scholars and professionals in the intelligence community.
You will conduct research in support of museum programs and temporary
exhibitions and training for staff and volunteers. Working with Director of
Education, you will conceptualize and develop temporary exhibitions and
identify and coordinate with experts in the intelligence community to
present programs addressing current issues and scholarship. You will create
vital interpretive programs and materials for the Museum’s various
audiences. You will build and expand the Museum’s local, national and
international presence, profile and reputation through programs and
exhibits. Advanced degree in U.S./Public History: Specialty in Intelligence,
Politics, and/or Foreign Policy or related discipline and five years'
teaching, internship, and/or research experience is required. Teaching
and/or museum experience highly desirable. The International Spy Museum
receives funding from the District of Columbia’s Revenue Bond and TIF
Programs. As a consequence, we are required to give preference to qualified
candidates who reside in the District of Columbia. Please e-mail a cover
letter, resume, a list of three references and your salary requirements to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: EGG: another Carlyle Group holding cleaning up on terror

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi

EGG, a key Carlyle Group holding, has technology and products in biosensors
from this acquisition. They then branded just about everything to do with
the field of detection as 'Perkin-Elmer'.

http://www.princetonappliedresearch.com/press_releases/030899.html



Press Releases

EGG TO ACQUIRE PERKIN-ELMER'S ANALYTICAL INSTRUMENTS DIVISION FOR $425
MILLION;  REVIEWS STRATEGIC ALTERNATIVES FOR TECHNICAL SERVICES UNIT

Oak Ridge, TN - EGG, Inc. announced today that it plans to acquire
Perkin-Elmer's Analytical Instruments Division, a leading producer of
high-quality analytical testing instruments for $425 million. The
transaction is the latest in a series of acquisitions, divestitures and
consolidations intended to drive EGG growth in commercial technology
markets. EGG expects to close this transaction during the second quarter.

EGG also announced that it will explore strategic alternatives for its
Technical Services business unit and has engaged Goldman, Sachs  Co. to
conduct the review. In 1999, EGG anticipates Technical Services will have a
sales level of approximately $450 million. The unit provides management,
engineering, scientific, technical and operations support services to
government customers, including the U.S. departments of Defense, Treasury,
Customs Service, the Federal Aviation Administration and the Internal
Revenue Service. EGG said that it is committed to maintaining a high level
of service to its customers and fulfilling all contractual obligations
during this review period.

Today's announcement of our intention to acquire Perkin-Elmer's Analytical
Instruments is an important milestone for our Company, said Gregory L.
Summe, President and Chief Executive Officer of EGG, Inc. This is truly a
strategic acquisition for us - one that will allow us to build scale in our
existing Instruments and Life Sciences units and to better position our
Company for continued growth. Perkin-Elmer has a strong global distribution
network, a widely recognized and respected brandname and is a leader in
innovation. Today's actions will greatly accelerate our efforts to focus on
high growth electronics, aerospace and life sciences businesses.

EGG expects the acquisition to be non-dilutive in 1999, excluding any
acquisition-related charges, and accretive in the year 2000 and beyond.

Both companies' Boards of Directors have approved the transaction. Its
completion is subject to approval by certain government regulatory agencies.

Perkin-Elmer Analytical Instruments generated 1998 fiscal year sales of $569
million. Its systems are widely used to achieve product uniformity in drugs
and medicines, ensure the purity of food and water, protect the environment,
measure and test the structural integrity of many different materials, and
much more. In addition to products, the company provides consumables and
services. The division sells to traditional analytical instruments and life
sciences markets.

The acquisition will complement EGG's Instruments and Life Sciences product
offerings and extend and strengthen EGG presence in such areas as
pharmaceuticals and food (bacteria) screening. Ownership of the brandname
Perkin-Elmer will be transferred to EGG.

Under EGG's leadership, Perkin-Elmer Analytical Instruments, which holds
strong positions in the majority of its major product lines, will receive
the resources needed to increase its market presence and to accelerate
new-product development.

Perkin-Elmer has pioneered the commercial specialty development of many
analytical techniques over the last 50 years, establishing a reputation for
high-quality analytical instruments. Headquartered in Connecticut, its
Analytical Instruments division has an employee base of 3,100 and has a
sales presence in over 100 countries.

EGG has completed several other recent transactions, such as the $250
million acquisition of Lumen Technologies and the purchase of Life Science
Resources Limited, which have added critical mass and technologies in the
optoelectronics and life sciences markets.

Forward-Looking Information and Factors Affecting Future Performance

This press release contains forward-looking statements. For this purpose,
any statements contained in this press release that are not statements of
historical fact may be deemed to be forward-looking statements. Words such
as believes, anticipates, plans, expects, will and similar
expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. There are a
number of important factors that could cause the results of EGG to differ
materially from those indicated by these forward-looking statements,
including among others, the factors set forth in Exhibit 99.1 to our Current
Report on Form 8-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on
January 25, 1999, which Exhibit 99.1 is incorporated by reference in this
press release.

EGG, Inc. is a global technology company that provides products and systems
to medical, telecom, aerospace, semiconductor, photographic and other

Italian general strike

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Brown

As some 11 million Italian trade unionists go head-to-head with the
rightist Berlusconi government in the first general strike that country has
seen for 20 years, LabourStart is pleased to announce that we've launched a
special page with full coverage of the strike, here:

http://www.labourstart.org/italy/

Check this page regularly for continuous updates.

Eric Lee

---
LabourStart: http://www.labourstart.org
---




Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-16 Thread Louis Proyect

Grant Lee wrote:
Louis,

I'm sorry you feel that way. I took your reference to Lenin meant that you
favoured the national front tactics of the early 1920s, which did involve
bourgeois nationalists (in dependent countries).

This only confuses things further. Lenin advocated support for nationalist
movements as a means to an end: communism. This becomes clearer when you
read his article on ultraleftism, which urges support for social democrats
in terms of the way a rope supports a hanging man. 

I suggest nearly all of the world remains under the control of imperialism
in the sense in which you use the word.

This dissolves the concrete into the universal. If imperialism is the
latest stage of capitalism, then of course it exists everywhere. However,
we need to be able to distinguish between exploiter and exploited. For
example, as I understand it, Michael Perelman is working on a book that
will look at ecological imperialism. When Bolivian peasants were being
forced to pay for water, it was a multinational corporation that was doing
the charging. Bolivian corporations do not generally come to places like
the USA and Australia to seize control of natural resources, do they?

In 1900, Australia had a much higher standard of living relative to the rest
of the world --- in fact probably the highest --- when it was officially six
British colonies and dominated by British finance capital. The standard of
living has declined significantly since then. 

I am puzzled. I just posted the UN data that indicated that Australia ranks
SECOND in the world in terms of standard of living indicators. What kind of
drop is this supposed to be then? Argentina ranked among the top nations in
the world in the early 1900s but ranked SEVENTY-FIFTH in 2001. It has
probably dropped lower. That is what we are dealing with, isn't it?

What would the highest stage
of colonialism/imperialism mean if not direct rule for the purposes of
economic exploitation? (Exploitation being inherent in all capitalist
relations of production.)

Lenin spoke in terms of super-profits. In third world countries, you have a
reserve army of the unemployed and repression against trade unionists and
the left. This leads to maquiladoras and all the rest. If Guatemalan
multinationals were coming to Canada in order to pay the natives 3 dollars
a day to sew dresses for K-Mart, we'd be entitled to speak about all
capitalist relations of production being generalized or some such thing.
This does not happen, however.


Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org




Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Brown

Binary scheme of democracy and centralism
by miychi
15 April 2002 21:34 UTC  


 
1.Binary scheme of democracy and centralism




Charles: As Lenin was a dialectician, we can be sure that these opposites are to be 
treated in both their unity and opposition, as you do below. Basically it is a way of 
relating the masses and their leaders for struggle and for long term operation of the 
country.

^^^

a correct reading of Lenin $B!G (Js work makes clear that Lenin never made a
binary scheme of democracy and centralism. Lenin speaks about centralization
of leadership by the party, decentralization of responsibility to the local
sections, and obligation of regular reporting and publicizing within the
party as condition to realize them, and centralization of secret function
and specification other functions of movement. as for democracy-inner-party
democracy, he regards it as a condition to realize centralization of
leadership and decentralization of responsibility to local sections, in
other words, as a historical concrete or a variable form.


^^^

CB: Definitely, democratic centralism is to be treated in a historically concrete 
manner. Thus, the unity of democracy and centralism in the Venezuelan Bolivarian 
movement is unique. 


What do you think of the operation of the principle of democratic centralism in 
Venezuela as we have learned of the events there ?

^






Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Brown

 Binary scheme of democracy and centralism
by Sabri Oncu
16 April 2002 04:49 UTC



They were the ones who possessed the centralized power. They are
not gone because we, who worked under them, way below the
corporate hierarchy, 

^^^

CB: Is this corporate hierarchy a bureaucracy too ?

^


had no means to say: Fuck you! When you
sign up for a financial corporation, or any corporation for that
matter, you accept the hierarchy that comes with it and know that
you need to give them a 15 day notice before you leave but they
can get rid of you any time of their choosing.





Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Brown

 Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)
by Devine, James
15 April 2002 21:33 UTC  

In leftist theory, democratic centralism refers to the organization of the
revolutionary political party. The theory says that when a party's
membership decides on a policy (a line, a program) it is binding on members
of that party, including its leadership. Though they may disagree with it at
party forums, they should not do so openly, when non-party people are
around. 

^

CB: By and large, we can be more specific than leftist theory , and attribute 
democratic centralism to Leninist theory.  

On the other hand, Lenin's theory of democratic centralism can be generalized beyond 
the specific Bolshevik situation as a way of analyzing and organizing the relationship 
between the working class masses and its leadership whereever the class struggle is 
hot, as in Venezuela.




Though there are likely organizations in Venezuela that are organized in a
democratic centralist way, the mass demonstrations in favor of Chavez
don't fit that description unless they are simply as part of a party. It
looks to me instead that there's a lot of spontaneity going on. That is,
people were demonstrating in favor of Chavez because they liked him, not
because they belonged to a party-type organization. The Bolivarist
organization did not simply orchestrate the anti-coup movements. (Of course,
if my facts are wrong, I'd like to be told.)



CB: It is highly unlikely that the response of the overwhelming numbers of workers and 
of the soldiers who remained loyal to Chavez was essentially spontaneous. It evidenced 
a high level of consciousness.  The organization of the Bolivarists in the poor 
neighborhoods has been reported  for years before these events. This is most likely 
precisely an example of CONSCIOUS , emergency struggle by masses led by a party as 
Lenin discusses it in _What is to be done ?_, as opposed to spontaneous struggles such 
as rebellions/riots in U.S. cities over the last 40 years, and the consciousness 
demonstrated by the workers and soldiers is most likely the result of prior party work 
and democratic centralist methods.

BTW, in practice, most democratic centralist organizations end up not
being democratic. 
The rank and file end up being manipulated by the central
committee or its leader, i.e., end up being passive followers rather than
active, democratic, participants. 




CB:  Most ? Do you have stats on this ?This is a  standard anti-democratic centralist 
claim and opinion. 






Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine





Re: Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)

2002-04-16 Thread bantam

 

 BTW, in practice, most democratic centralist organizations end up
 not
 being democratic.
 The rank and file end up being manipulated by the central
 committee or its leader, i.e., end up being passive followers rather
 than
 active, democratic, participants.

 

 CB:  Most ? Do you have stats on this ?This is a  standard
 anti-democratic centralist claim and opinion.

Standard because historically substantiated, Charles.

Democratic centralism leads to bureaucratic centralism and, ultimately,
an apparat not unlike a ruling class, whose being (and material
interests) is unlike that of its 'constituency' and whose consciousness
comes to reflect this.  It's a process of substitutionism.  First, the
party stands for the class on the grounds that those not yet in the
party (the vast majority of the class) could not yet be expected to know
its own interests (just what you'd expect a middle class intellectual
minority to think, I suppose).  Then, to disagree with the party (or,
rather, what current power relations within the formal party determine)
is to be a counter-revolutionary, an enemy of your class.  So you're
removed.  Top-down nonsense like this ain't Marxian revolution at all -
not in the medium term anyway.  Read Marx on The Paris Commune, mate;
it's all about ever revocable delegates from, for, of and by the
people.  Theory ain't nothin' without social practice (praxis), so the
revolutionary engine is the people, not a bunch of abstractly-theorising
elitists selflessly throwing pearls before swine.

There's much spilled blood in the very guts of the notion, I reckon.

Cheers,
Rob.
 
 




New Welfare Study from EPI

2002-04-16 Thread Max Sawicky


NEW DATA SHOW WELFARE FAILS TO HELP FAMILIES
MAKE SUCCESSFUL TRANSITIONS TO WORK

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Tuesday, April 16 2002
CONTACT: Nancy Coleman or Karen Conner,  202-775-8810
Report available online at http://www.epinet.org

From 1997 to 1999, while most of the nation experienced a surge of
economic prosperity, one group of Americans was conspicuously absent
from the party. Families who moved from welfare to jobs during this
period found themselves less able to pay for basic necessities like
food, housing, health care, and child care, says a new study released
today by the Economic Policy Institute.

Former Welfare Families Need More Help, by economist Heather Boushey,
paints a picture of the rising hardships suffered by families newly off
the welfare rolls and struggling to make a go of it in the low-wage
workplace. The report documents the clear need for continued and
expanded help from the government in the form of programs such as child
care and health care that are essential if welfare families are to make
a successful transition to work.

The findings of this study support criticisms found in a survey reported

in the Washington Post.  Governors and welfare directors in 39 states
think President Bush’s welfare plan is “simply not workable” because it
increases the hours people will be required to work, but cuts federal
grants that states use to provide temporary support to transitioning
workers in areas like housing and child care.

“With welfare reform, the government said that the best antipoverty
program was a job,” said Heather Boushey, author of the study.  “But
welfare reform will ultimately fail if jobs don’t offer families a
ladder out of poverty.”

Most former welfare recipients left welfare and went to work.  However,
the earnings from the types of jobs available to most former welfare
recipients continued to leave too many families without adequate and
affordable child care, regular and preventive medical care, and
affordable housing.  Nearly half of the families that recently moved
from welfare to full time work faced critical economic hardships like
the lack of food, eviction, or the inability to receive needed medical
care.

* Under welfare reform critical hardships rose 9.3 percent among
families that recently left welfare for full-time, full-year employment.

* Under welfare reform critical hardships rose 10.1 percent among recent

recipients of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)/Temporary
Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) working part-time.

* Recent AFDC/TANF recipients working part-time also experienced an
increase in food insecurity, (up 10.5 percent since 1997), and the lack
of health insurance increased 8.2 percent.

* For families with a full-time worker, the largest increases in
hardships overall were found in the inability to pay child care and
housing bills.  Indeed there is evidence that homelessness has been
increasing in some localities.

Although child care expenditures have increased on both the federal and
state level, only 12 percent of eligible families receive assistance
through the Child Care and Development Fund. More than six million
children are eligible but not enrolled in the Children’s Health
Insurance Program (CHIP).

“Immediate steps should be taken to bring eligible families into
existing support programs, particularly in light of the President’s
proposals to raise work requirements,” said Dr. Boushey. “Over the
long-term, fundamental reforms should focus on closing the gap between
earnings and the costs of basic necessities.”

Heather Boushey is an economist at EPI and co-author of Hardships in
America: The Real Story of Working Families, which examines the true
costs of living in every community in America. Former Welfare Families
Need More Help is an expansion of that report.

The Economic Policy Institute is a non-profit, non-partisan economic
think tank founded in 1986.  The Institute is located on the web at
http://www.epinet.org

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Economic Policy Institute
1660 L STREET, NW, SUITE 1200
WASHINGTON, DC   20036
202/775-8810
FAX 202/775-0819
www.epinet.org






Re: RE: RE: Fw: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-16 Thread Ken Hanly

I fail to see your point. . Why not criticise the substance instead of the
source-- as Jim does? Anyway there is lots of similar stuff from lefties
emphasizing the importance of the Israel Lobby. James Petras for example but
here is Herman ages ago(in the link below). Herman considers the point  Jim
brought up re the strategic ally explanation and rejects it for some of  the
same reasons I allude to in my post. You have some objection to forwarding
material from right-wing columnists even if it is more or less correct or
even if it is not represents an interesting and reasonably well argued point
of view? Why?

http://www.zmag.org/Zmag/articles/july94herman.htm

Cheers, Ken Hanly

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 Original Message -
From: michael pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:35 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:24965] RE: RE: Fw: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog



Just a side note...ad hominem!
Eric Margolis was one of a zillion Western journalists that
 trekke to Afghanistan in the 80's to do some Reaganite agit-prop
 for the anti-Soviet mujahdeen. Wrote a book reprinted after 9-11.
   If I had time to do a search on Margolis and Hekmatyar, the
 leader who loved to throw acid in woman's faces, I betcha I'd
 find some tributes.
Forwarding stuff by right-wingers (like another Canadian columnist,
 whose name escapes me now who was anti-NATO during the anti-Milosevic
 bombing campaign and had in earlier years done lotsa agit-prop
 for Jonas Savimbi) is well...
 Michael Pugliese






FW: AUT: Re: The Coup *Will* be Televised: Hugo Chavez's Downfall and the Venezuelan

2002-04-16 Thread michael pugliese



--- Original Message ---
From: Jon Beasley-Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 4/16/02 12:25:12 AM


Louis, I'm sorry that by some freak of internet you only received
the last
two sentences of the first of two longish texts I sent out yesterday.
Thanks to Michael P, readers of aut-op-sy will also think that
my
commentary on what's been going on in Venezuela is brief indeed.

I'll gladly pass on the full texts of both pieces.

Take care

Jon

Jon Beasley-Murray
Spanish and Portuguese
University of Manchester
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.art.man.ac.uk/spanish/jbm.html
http://www.art.man.ac.uk/lacs/

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Louis Proyect wrote:

 On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:38:49 -0700, Jon Beasley-Murray wrote:
 
 The current regime lacks
 any legitimacy, however much it may  have
 paraded invented rituals for the cameras, and
 will survive only  through repression or apathy.
 But the multitude is waiting for other
 alternatives, and other possibilities

 The multitude is waiting for other possibilities? This must
be a
 reference to Spinoza-ist communism which will be ushered in
by broken
 Starbucks windows. I would think the one thing that Argentina
and
 Venezuela dramatize is the need for the working-class to organize
 itself politically as a class in order to create a new STATE
that
 reflects its own needs. Both Venezuela and Argentina are potentially
 wealthy countries that can provide a level of income and security
 that are much higher than Cuba's, let alone the average 3rd
world
 country.

 It continues to amaze me that these silly quasi-anarchist
formulas
 about the multitude have any credibility. With hunger and
disease
 rampant in Argentina, the STATE can deliver food and health
care that
 is urgently needed. By polemicizing against the need for SOCIALISM
 let alone a left social democratic or populist government
in the
 Chavez or Peron mold, the autonomists reveal themselves to
be an
 anti-working class current. They are for pie in the sky in
the
 future, while people go to sleep hungry today.


 --
 Louis Proyect, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/15/2002

 Marxism list: http://www.marxmail.org






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The Revolution Will Not Be Televised Hugo Chavez's Return and the

2002-04-16 Thread michael pugliese



Jon Beasley-Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Add to People Section
To:
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Subject:
AUT: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised (fwd) 

 
-- Forwarded message -- 
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:42:25 +0100 (BST) 
From: Jon Beasley-Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Jon Beasley-Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: GARETH X. WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
Subject: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised 
 
text number two... 
 
Jon Beasley-Murray 
Spanish and Portuguese 
University of Manchester 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
http://www.art.man.ac.uk/spanish/jbm.html 
http://www.art.man.ac.uk/lacs/ 
- 
 
The Revolution Will Not be Televised: Hugo Chavez's Return and
the 
Venezuelan multitude 
 
So this is how a modern coup d'etat is overthrown: almost invisibly,
at 
the margins of the media. Venezuela's return to democracy (and
democracy 
it is, make no mistake) took place despite a self-imposed media
blackout 
of astonishing proportions. A huge popular revolt against an
illegitimate 
regime took place while the country's middle class was watching
soap 
operas and game shows; television networks took notice only in
the very 
final moments, and, even then, only once they were absolutely
forced to do 
so. Thereafter television could do no more than bear mute witness
to a 
series of events almost without precedent in Latin America--and
perhaps 
elsewhere--as a repressive regime, result of a pact between the
military 
and business, was brought down less than forty-eight hours after
its 
initial triumph. These events resist representation and have
yet to be 
turned into narrative or analysis (the day after, the newspapers
have 
simply failed to appear), but they inspire thoughts of new forms
of Latin 
American political legitimacy, of which this revolt may be just
one 
(particularly startling) harbinger. 
 
By Friday night, Caracas, Venezuela's capital, seemed to be returning
to 
normal the day after the coup that had brought down the increasingly

unpopular regime of president Hugo Chavez. In the middle classes'

traditional nightspots, such as the nearby village of El Hatillo,
with its 
picturesque colonial architecture and shops selling traditional

handicrafts, the many restaurants were full and lively. Those
who had 
banged on pots and pans over the past few months and marched
the previous 
day to protest against the government seemed to be breathing
a sigh of 
relief that the whole process had eventually been resolved so
quickly and 
apparently so easily. A Step in the Right Direction was the
banner 
headline on the front page of one major newspaper on the Saturday,
and the 
new president, Pedro Carmona (former head of the Venezuelan chamber
of 
commerce), was beginning to name the members of his transitional

government, while the first new policies were being announced.
Control 
over the state oil company, PDVSA (the world's largest oil company
and 
Latin America's largest company of any kind), had been central
to the 
ongoing crisis that had led to the coup, and its head of production

announced, to much applause, that not one barrel of oil would
now be 
sent to Cuba. Not all was celebration, it is true: the television
showed 
scenes of mourning for the thirteen who had died in the violent
end to 
Thursday's protest march, but the stations also eagerly covered
live the 
police raids (breathless reporters in tow) hunting down the Chavez

supporters who were allegedly responsible for these deaths. 
 
Elsewhere, however, another story was afoot, the news circulating

partially, by word of mouth or mobile phone. Early Saturday afternoon,
I 
received three phone calls in quick succession: one from somebody
due to 
come round to the place I was staying, who called on his mobile
to say he 
was turning back as he had heard there were barricades in the
streets and 
an uprising in a military base; another from a journalist who
also 
cancelled an appointment, and who said that a parachute regiment
and a 
section of the air force had rebelled; a third from a friend
who warned 
there were fire-fights in the city centre, and that a state of
siege might 
soon be imposed. My friend added that none of this would appear
on the 
television. I turned it on: indeed, not a sign. Other friends
came by, 
full of similar rumours, and with word that people were gathering
outside 
the national palace. Given the continued lack of news coverage,
we 
decided to go out and take a look for ourselves. 
 
Approaching the city centre, we saw that indeed crowds were converging.

But as we drove around, we saw almost no sign of any police or
army on the 
streets. In the centre itself, and at the site of Thursday's

disturbances, some improvised barricades had been put up, constructed
with 
piles of rubbish or with burning tyres, marking out the territory
around 
the national palace itself. The demonstration was not large,
but it was 
growing. We then headed towards the city's opulent East Side,
and 

democratic centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James

[was: RE: [PEN-L:24984] Re: Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)]

Rob writes: Democratic centralism leads to bureaucratic centralism and,
ultimately, an apparat not unlike a ruling class, whose being (and material
interests) is unlike that of its 'constituency' and whose consciousness
comes to reflect this.  It's a process of substitutionism.   [to bring up a
concept that Trotsky used to criticize Lenin in 1905 (?)] First, the party
stands for the class on the grounds that those not yet in the party (the
vast majority of the class) could not yet be expected to know its own
interests (just what you'd expect a middle class intellectual minority to
think, I suppose).  Then, to disagree with the party (or, rather, what
current power relations within the formal party determine) is to be a
counter-revolutionary, an enemy of your class.  So you're removed.  Top-down
nonsense like this ain't Marxian revolution at all - not in the medium term
anyway.  Read Marx on The Paris Commune, mate; it's all about ever revocable
delegates from, for, of and by the people.  Theory ain't nothin' without
social practice (praxis), so the revolutionary engine is the people, not a
bunch of abstractly-theorising elitists selflessly throwing pearls before
swine.

Rob is talking about what democratic centralism usually means _in
practice_, while my emphasis is on what it originally meant in _theory_.

My reading of history is that there are substitutionist forces in all or
almost all organizations, including social democratic and pro-anarchy ones.
For example, look how the Blairites took over the Labour party in the UK or
how the FAI ran the CNT in Spain during the Civil War. On a more mundane
level, it seems like every progressive organization in the U.S. --
including pro-environment organizations -- has been taken over by its
national office staff, while its members are bombarded with fund-raising
mail all the time and are expected to be passive followers. In sum,
substitutionism of the sort that Rob describes is not unique to the
tradition that follows Lenin. 

But, contrary to Trotsky's implications, there is no inevitability of
substitutionism -- there is no iron law of oligarchy. If rank and file
members of the working class are well organized for their own goals and are
concious of their self-organization, that limits the substitutionism by the
party. If the party rank and file are well organized, that limits the
substitutionism by the central committee or the national office. 

That is, subsitutionism is a symptom of a social movement's decline. (The
rise of Stalinism in the USSR reflected the decline in working-class power
after 1917.) Though it can allow that movement's tradition to persist in
hard times, usually that tradition is corrupted. The elite then usually
fights to prevent the revival of the movement, since that would threaten
their power. Instead, the elite wants to act in the movement's name. 

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




RE: Re: RE: RE: Fw: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James

Ken writes:I fail to see your point. . Why not criticise the substance
instead of the
source-- as Jim does? Anyway there is lots of similar stuff from lefties
emphasizing the importance of the Israel Lobby. James Petras for example but
here is Herman ages ago(in the link below). Herman considers the point  Jim
brought up re the strategic ally explanation and rejects it for some of  the
same reasons I allude to in my post. You have some objection to forwarding
material from right-wing columnists even if it is more or less correct or
even if it is not represents an interesting and reasonably well argued point
of view? Why?

since the New York TIMES, the Wall Street JOURNAL, and most other US news
sources are right-wing, to avoid all right-wing sources is to cut off a lot
of info. Besides, Margolis might be in the process of moving left, for all
we know. Politics are fluid. I don't expect Pat Buchanan to go anywhere but
right, but some of the lower-level righties might do so. For example,
there's Kevin Phillips, who was shoved to the left by the Ross Perot
campaign. (There's also Arianna Huffington, but she's _sui generis_.)
JD




RE: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James

Ken writes:Certainly one could expect support for Israel as a strategic
ally but how is Israel loyal when it deliberately ignores US presidential
demands to withdraw. Israeli actions make a planned attack on Iraq much more
difficult--by alienating all of Iraq's neighbours and also threatens
stability in places such as Bahrain which are militarily important for the
US.

I'm not convinced that the US really wants Sharon to pull the troops out.
Instead, the US wants to _look like_ it want Sharon to do so.

The problem with the Israeli actions that make [the] planned attack on Iraq
much more difficult is that it's the nature of international relations (or
of imperialism, for you guys) that events can't be predicted. No-one really
knew that the Intifada would go the way it did, with people deciding not to
give up passively to Israeli domination but to do so explosively. Then, I am
sure that a lot of people in Washington DC are extremely sympathetic to
Sharon's blitzkrieg. (Colin Powell was sent on a slow boat to the Levant
rather than sped into impose his President's Diktat. That's because it
wasn't really a Diktat. It was done for show.) 

Israel is a U.S. ally in the sense that it will never do anything against
the U.S. directly and has done stuff in the past such as bombing Iraq. The
Mossad works hand in glove with the CIA and seems to do its dirty work
sometimes. (The US elite has been willing to forget events such as the
bombing of the USS Liberty in 1967. This was at the start of the period when
the US/Israel friendship deepened.)

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
 




PK speaks

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James

April 16, 2002

Losing Latin America

By PAUL KRUGMAN

Many people, myself included, would agree that Hugo Chávez is not the
president Venezuela needs. He happens, however, to be the president
Venezuela elected - freely, fairly and constitutionally. That's why all the
democratic nations of the Western Hemisphere, however much they may dislike
Mr. Chávez, denounced last week's attempted coup against him. 

All the democratic nations, that is, except one.

Here's how the BBC put it: Far from condemning the ouster of a
democratically elected president, U.S. officials blamed the crisis on Mr.
Chávez himself, and they were clearly pleased with the result - even
though the new interim government proceeded to abolish the legislature, the
judiciary and the Constitution. They were presumably less pleased when the
coup attempt collapsed. The BBC again: President Chávez's comeback has . .
. left Washington looking rather stupid. The national security adviser,
Condoleezza Rice, didn't help that impression when, incredibly, she
cautioned the restored president to respect constitutional processes.

Surely the worst thing about this episode is the betrayal of our democratic
principles; of the people, by the people, for the people isn't supposed to
be followed by the words as long as it suits U.S. interests.

But even viewed as realpolitik, our benign attitude toward Venezuela's coup
was remarkably foolish. 

It is very much in our interest that Latin America break out of its
traditional political cycle, in which crude populism alternated with
military dictatorship. Everything that matters to the U.S. - trade,
security, drugs, you name it - will be better if we have stable neighbors.

But how can such stability be achieved? In the 1990's there seemed, finally,
to be a formula; call it the new world order. Economic reform would end the
temptations of populism; political reform would end the risk of
dictatorship. And in the 1990's, on their own initiative but with
encouragement from the United States, most Latin American nations did indeed
embark on a dramatic process of reform both economic and political.

The actual results have been mixed. On the economic side, where hopes were
initially highest, things have not gone too well. There are no economic
miracles in Latin America, and there have been some notable disasters,
Argentina's crisis being the latest. The best you can say is that some of
the disaster victims, notably Mexico, seem to have recovered their balance
(with a lot of help, one must say, from the Clinton administration) and
moved onto a path of steady, but modest, economic growth. 

Yet economic disasters have not destabilized the region. Mexico's crisis in
1995, Brazil's crisis in 1999, even Argentina's current crisis did not
deliver those countries into the hands either of radicals or of strongmen.
The reason is that the political side has gone better than anyone might have
expected. Latin America has become a region of democracies - and these
democracies seem remarkably robust.

So while the U.S. may have hoped for a new Latin stability based on vibrant
prosperity, what it actually got was stability despite economic woes, thanks
to democracy. Things could be a lot worse.

Which brings us to Venezuela. Mr. Chávez is a populist in the traditional
mold, and his policies have been incompetent and erratic. Yet he was fairly
elected, in a region that has come to understand the importance of
democratic legitimacy. What did the United States hope to gain from his
overthrow? True, he has spouted a lot of anti-American rhetoric, and been a
nuisance to our diplomacy. But he is not a serious threat.

Yet there we were, reminding everyone of the bad old days when any would-be
right-wing dictator could count on U.S. backing.

As it happens, we aligned ourselves with a peculiarly incompetent set of
plotters. Mr. Chávez has alienated a broad spectrum of his people; the
demonstrations that led to his brief overthrow began with a general strike
by the country's unions. But the short-lived coup-installed government
included representatives of big business and the wealthy - full stop. No
wonder the coup collapsed.

But even if the coup had succeeded, our behavior would have been very
stupid. We had a good thing going - a new hemispheric atmosphere of trust,
based on shared democratic values. How could we so casually throw it away? 

Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised Hugo Chavez's Return and the

2002-04-16 Thread Louis Proyect

it will 
continue to do so. The current regime has legitimacy, but this
legitimacy 
does not come from paraded invented rituals for the cameras;
it comes from 
the multitude's constituent power. And the multitude is also
waiting for 
other alternatives, and other possibilities. 
 

This is the
same article that was posted
yesterday and it
generates just as much eyestrain as
the day
before.

Scientific studies conducted at the
Institute for Eye, Nose and Ear
Research in West Passaic,
New
Jersey
have found that improperly
formatted email posts can
induce 
epileptic
seizures.

Dr. Sidney
Weintraub, the director of the Institute,
recommends the use of Internet Exporer,
Netscape
Navigator versions higher than 5.0
or Opera
in order to eliminate the dreaded staircase
effect.






Louis Proyect
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RE: Re: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised Hugo Chavez's Return and the

2002-04-16 Thread michael pugliese


   oOoPS! ;-) 
   sINCE cHRIS bURFORD and lnp3.exe have requested it, I'll change
my e-mailer from this web based webbox.com to the Opera/Eudora
mailer.
  BTW, another Dr. Sidney...this one Sidney Gottlieb at UCLA
shot up an elephant with LSD-25.
   Some people might say he shot me up too?
Michael Pugliese
   
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From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 4/16/02 8:56:26 AM


it will 
continue to do so. The current regime has legitimacy, but this
legitimacy 
does not come from paraded invented rituals for the cameras;
it comes from 
the multitude's constituent power. And the multitude is also
waiting for 
other alternatives, and other possibilities. 
 

This is the
same article that was posted
yesterday and it
generates just as much eyestrain as
the day
before.

Scientific studies conducted at the
Institute for Eye, Nose and Ear
Research in West Passaic,
New
Jersey
have found that improperly
formatted email posts can
induce 
epileptic
seizures.

Dr. Sidney
Weintraub, the director of the Institute,
recommends the use of Internet Exporer,
Netscape
Navigator versions higher than 5.0
or Opera
in order to eliminate the dreaded staircase
effect.






Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org






rate of return on capital

2002-04-16 Thread Diane Monaco

I am looking for information on the rate of return on capital in developing 
countries and how it compares to the rate in developed countries.  Can 
anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance,
Diane




RE: Re: Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Pugliese

   From the Trotsky archive at MIA.
...n the chapter Down With Substitutionism in Party II of the book, Trotsky writes 
in what could be a 
description of Stalinism : In the internal politics of the Party these methods lead, 
as we shall see below, to 
the Party organisation ‘substituting’ itself for the Party, the Central Committee 
substituting itself for the 
Party organisation, and finally the dictator substituting himself for the Central 
Committee. 
M.P.

Leon Trotsky

Our Political Tasks

First published: 1904 as Nashi Politicheskiya Zadachi


Translated by: New Park Publications
Transcribed by: Andy Lehrer in 1999 for the Trotsky Internet Archive


On-Line Edition's Forward by the Transcriber
Preface
Part I: Introduction: The criteria of Party development and the



methods of evaluating it. 
Part II: Tactical Tasks The content of our activity in the proletariat.
Part III: Organisational Questions. 
Part IV: Jacobinism And Social Democracy


On-Line Edition's Forward by the Transcriber

Our Political Tasks is Trotsky’s response to the 1903 split in Russian Social





Democracy and a spirited reply to Lenin’s What Is To Be Done? and One Step Forwards, 
Two Steps back. A 
passionate, insightful attack on Lenin’s theory of party organisation and an outline 
of Trotsky’s own views on 
party structure, this controversial work was later disowned by Trotsky after he joined 
the Bolsheviks. Though 
it is far from Trotsky’s best work on a literary level (the young Trotsky tends to be 
repetitive, excessively 
sarcastic, overly verbose and generally in need of a good editor), the work is, 
nevertheless, a remarkable 
insight into the young Trotsky’s thinking and a vibrant expression of his commitment 
to revolution. It is, at 
times, hauntingly prophetic in its predictions of where the Leninist conception of 
democratic centralism may 
lead. For example, in the chapter Down With Substitutionism in Party II of the book, 
Trotsky writes in what 
could be a description of Stalinism : In the internal politics of the Party these 
methods lead, as we shall see 
below, to the Party organisation ‘substituting’ itself for the Party, the Central 
Committee substituting 
itself for the Party organisation, and finally the dictator substituting himself for 
the Central Committee It 
is very difficult to find an edition of this work in any language, as the book’s line 
on the party is not 
consistent with that of most Trotskyist organisations. Our Political Tasks fell into 
obscurity after the 1917 
Revolution only to be used and misrepresented by Trotsky’s enemies during the 
leadership struggle, which 
followed Lenin’s death. The book (and, implicitly, the Marxist tradition of spirited 
debate and critical 
thought) was used to attack Trotsky for being insufficiently Leninist and to smear him 
with the accusation of 
Menshivism, (for an especially viscous example see Stalin’s1927 speech The Trotskyist 
Opposition Then and 
Now). In fact, Our Political Tasks outlines a political position which, while 
critical of Lenin’s, is also 
clearly revolutionary and distinct from what would become Menshevism. This version is 
based on the English 
language translation published by New Park Publications in the early 1970s. Spelling 
and typographical errors 
have been corrected (and hopefully not replaced with new spelling and typographical 
errors) and several of the 
translation’s more egregious grammatical errors have also been corrected. For another 
criticism of Lenin’s 
position on party organisation from a left wing perspective, see Rosa Luxemburg’s 
Organisational Questions of 
the Russian Social Democracy later republished as Leninism or Marxism? For Lenin’s 
views, see What Is To Be 
Done? and One Step Forward, Two Steps Back. For Trotsky’s later views on the 1903 
split see chapter 12, The 
Party Congress and the Split in My Life.





 
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 BTW, in practice, most democratic centralist organizations end up
 not
 being democratic.
 The rank and file end up being manipulated by the central
 committee or its leader, i.e., end up being passive followers rather
 than
 active, democratic, participants.

 

 CB:  Most ? Do you have stats on this ?This is a  standard
 anti-democratic centralist claim and opinion.

Standard because historically substantiated, Charles.

Democratic centralism leads to bureaucratic centralism and, ultimately,
an apparat not unlike a ruling class, whose being (and material
interests) is unlike that of its 'constituency' and whose consciousness
comes to reflect this.  It's a process of substitutionism.  First, the
party stands for the class on the grounds that those not yet in the
party (the vast majority of the class) could not yet be expected to know
its own interests (just what you'd expect a middle class intellectual
minority to think, I suppose).  Then, to disagree with the party (or,

Re: rate of return on capital

2002-04-16 Thread Doug Henwood

Diane Monaco wrote:

I am looking for information on the rate of return on capital in 
developing countries and how it compares to the rate in developed 
countries.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?

One version of that can be estimated by looking at BEA's direct 
investment data for the U.S. http://www.bea.gov/bea/di/di1usdop.htm 
- divide profits by the capital stock. When I've done it, I've been 
surprised at how low returns are in some developing countries, and 
how high they are in some developed ones.

Doug




Query- Samuelson cite

2002-04-16 Thread Eugene Coyle

I'd appreciate any help.  I'm traveling and not near a library.

Paul Samuelson, conceding in the Cambridge Controversy the economics is
not a science, said something like micro is only a parable.  But it is
a good parable.

Does anyone know the cite for that?  I think it must have been 1973 or
1972, and I think it was in the QJE.

I'm looking for the citation but would be delighted to also get the
exact quote.

Gene Coyle




Re: Re: rate of return on capital

2002-04-16 Thread Louis Proyect

One version of that can be estimated by looking at BEA's direct 
investment data for the U.S. http://www.bea.gov/bea/di/di1usdop.htm 
- divide profits by the capital stock. When I've done it, I've been 
surprised at how low returns are in some developing countries, and 
how high they are in some developed ones.

Doug

We have to be careful not to draw the conclusion, however, that workers in
Europe are more exploited than they are in Africa based on this formula.
The rate of profit is only one indicator that has to be factored in when
evaluating the level of exploitation in one country or another. For
example, a highly mechanized factory in France owned by some electronics
multinational might generate a higher rate of return than a cocoa
plantation on the Ivory Coast. But so what?

Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org




dem. cent. Venezuela

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James

[was: RE: [PEN-L:24983] Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)]

I wrote: In leftist theory, democratic centralism refers to the
organization of the  revolutionary political party. The theory says that
when a party's membership decides on a policy (a line, a program) it is
binding on members of that party, including its leadership. Though they may
disagree with it at party forums, they should not do so openly, when
non-party people are  around. 
 
CB:By and large, we can be more specific than leftist theory , and
attribute democratic centralism to Leninist theory.  

It's from Lenin, but much of what's been written on democratic centralism
comes from his epigones (Stalinists, Trotskyists, etc.), who are within the
broad tradition of Marxism.  A lot of it also came from Kautsky, from whom
Lenin learned his stuff (see WHAT IS TO BE DONE?) 

The phrase Leninist theory is quite ambiguous since it is a contested
theory (even more than Marxist theory), with Lenin's epigones fighting over
it. Even Lenin himself did not follow a consistent theory all through his
career (see, for example, Tony Cliff's multi-volume book on Lenin). It's
unclear that such a dynamically changing vision can or should be distilled
into an ism. 

In retrospect, it was a major mistake by 20th century revolutionary leftists
to attach too much prestige to any single individual, including Lenin. (It
was probably a mistake to do this to Marx, too. The poor old guy must roll
in his grave every time his name is invoked.) 
 
CB: On the other hand, Lenin's theory of democratic centralism can be
generalized beyond the specific Bolshevik situation as a way of analyzing
and organizing the relationship between the working class masses and its
leadership whereever the class struggle is hot, as in Venezuela.

Democratic centralism has always referred to a mode of party organization,
not to a mode of analysis. You can stretch the meaning of this phrase if you
want to (as academics so often do), but it makes it incoherent to me and to
most other people.

Though there are likely organizations in Venezuela that are organized in a
democratic centralist way, the mass demonstrations in favor of Chavez
don't fit that description unless they are simply as part of a party. It
looks to me instead that there's a lot of spontaneity going on. That is,
people were demonstrating in favor of Chavez because they liked him, not
because they belonged to a party-type organization. The Bolivarist
organization did not simply orchestrate the anti-coup movements. (Of course,
if my facts are wrong, I'd like to be told.)

CB: It is highly unlikely that the response of the overwhelming numbers of
workers and of the soldiers who remained loyal to Chavez was essentially
spontaneous. It evidenced a high level of consciousness.

I didn't say politically unconcious. In fact, I put the word spontaneity
in quotes for a reason, because spontaneity is a vague and confusing
concept. Rather, what I was saying was that much of the opposition to the
coup came _from below_ (based on the short- and long-term class and national
interests of those participating) rather than being orchestrated by the
Bolivarist or any other organization. 

CB:The organization of the Bolivarists in the poor neighborhoods has been
reported for years before these events. This is most likely precisely an
example of CONSCIOUS , emergency struggle by masses led by a party as Lenin
discusses it in _What is to be done ?_, as opposed to spontaneous struggles
such as rebellions/riots in U.S. cities over the last 40 years, and the
consciousness demonstrated by the workers and soldiers is most likely the
result of prior party work and democratic centralist methods.

It's important to remember that the Bolivarist movement did not spring
full-blown from the head of Chavez. It also is part of the movement _from
below_ mentioned above and discussed below. It did do a lot of organizing
work. But we should also remember that most Latin American countries have
not undergone the kind of sometimes-deliberate atomization that the U.S.
African-American community has. (Here in L.A., it seems that wherever there
was a prosperous middle-class black neighborhood, a freeway would be built
or there'd be urban renewal of some other sort.) That is, there were
strong kinship, religious, and community networks that existed before the
Bolivarists came along. 

 BTW, in practice, most democratic centralist organizations end up not
being democratic. The rank and file end up being manipulated by the central
committee or its leader, i.e., end up being passive followers  rather than
active, democratic, participants.   

 CB:  Most ? Do you have stats on this ?This is a  standard anti-democratic
centralist claim and opinion. 

it is also an accurate description of the vast majority of so-called
Leninist (Stalinist and Trotskyist) party organizations _in practice_ -- and
also applies to social democratic and a lot of other types of political
groups.

No I 

Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Brown

 Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)
by bantam
16 April 2002 15:13 UTC  

 

 BTW, in practice, most democratic centralist organizations end up
 not
 being democratic.
 The rank and file end up being manipulated by the central
 committee or its leader, i.e., end up being passive followers rather
 than
 active, democratic, participants.

 

 CB:  Most ? Do you have stats on this ?This is a  standard
 anti-democratic centralist claim and opinion.

Standard because historically substantiated, Charles.


^^^

CB: I don't see any historical substantiation adduced here.

So, I assert the opposite. It is a historical distortion.

What is democracy , Rob ?

^

Democratic centralism leads to bureaucratic centralism 



CB: What's bureaucratic centralism ? Bureaucracy has been historically 
substantiated to be a muddle headed concept. What concept are you putting forth in 
bureaucracy that is not already in centralism ? You must be mean more centralized 
than you prefer.

However, you are just asserting these. You haven't demonstrated that a good balance 
between democracy and centralism has not been maintained in many parties aspiring to 
democratic centralism.




and, ultimately,
an apparat not unlike a ruling class, whose being (and material
interests) is unlike that of its 'constituency' and whose consciousness
comes to reflect this.  It's a process of substitutionism.  First, the
party stands for the class on the grounds that those not yet in the
party (the vast majority of the class) could not yet be expected to know
its own interests (just what you'd expect a middle class intellectual
minority to think, I suppose).  Then, to disagree with the party (or,
rather, what current power relations within the formal party determine)
is to be a counter-revolutionary, an enemy of your class.  So you're
removed.  Top-down nonsense like this ain't Marxian revolution at all -
not in the medium term anyway.  Read Marx on The Paris Commune, mate;

^^^

CB: I already did. Read Lenin on Marx on these issues. 

^^^


it's all about ever revocable delegates from, for, of and by the
people.  Theory ain't nothin' without social practice (praxis), so the
revolutionary engine is the people, not a bunch of abstractly-theorising
elitists selflessly throwing pearls before swine.



CB: This sounds more like intellectual email lists and universities than historically 
existent democratic centralist parties, which parties have been  a lot more in touch 
with masses of people ( like in Venezuela !) than said email lists and universities.  
You really kid yourself when you claim that Communist Parties have not been in close 
conection with masses. As if Nazism or U.S. Nazism in Vietnam could have been defeated 
with the Parties detached from the masses.

^

There's much spilled blood in the very guts of the notion, I reckon.

Cheers,
Rob.
 





ICDSM-Ireland - Solidarity with people of Palestine

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Pugliese

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PRESS  RELEASE   -   OPEN  LETTER –

To Media  -  Politicians  and  to  Friends

CDSM-IRELAND   -   SOLIDARITY  WITH   PEOPLE  OF  PALESTINE

John Kelly – Committee to Defend Slobodan Milosevic – Ireland
  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -  Fax/phone - +044
45787  … 14.4.2002

DISTURBING THE PEACE  -

“The Israeli army could learn from the way the German troops operated in the
Warsaw Ghetto.”

These are the words of an Israeli General Staff commander quoted in the
Israeli press . Ha’aretz April 1  2002.

Here is acknowledgement of rampant militarism as essentially fascistic be it
then as in the days of the second  world war or now in the era of the New
World Order.

The events of September 11 furnished an altogether too perfect rationale,
some might say cover, for Israeli incursions into Palestinian territory and
the subsequent slaughter or forcible expulsion of Palestinian people.

State terrorism by Israeli forces to effect the seizure of land with the
obvious agenda being Israeli expansionism.  A process aided and abetted
hugely from Washington.

In recent years the Pentagon has shipped to Tel Aviv on behalf of its
Israeli protectorate, strategically located to police the oil rich states of
the Middle East, military hardware in the form of helicopters and assorted
missiles capable of mass destruction amounting to an approximate value of at
least three billion dollars.

Media coverage of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinian people
consistently omits facts of this kind related to Israel’s tremendous
preponderance of destructive weaponry contrasted with the slingshot like
situation of the Palestinian respondents to Israeli onslaught.

Consider if you will the text of an interview conducted by David Hanly a
presenter with Ireland’s national broadcasting service RTE’s Morning Ireland
radio programme Friday April 12th 2002. Hanly is speaking to Mary Kelly a
nurse from Cork in Ireland who is currently located in Nablus Palestine
where she has placed her own life on the line as a peace activist and nurse
amongst Palestinians in crisis.

Bias and lack of balance characterize this exceptionally patronizing
supposed interview which by implication is supportive of the acts of State
terrorism by Israel in contravention of mandated international laws and most
especially in violation of the Geneva Convention.

Hanly is sycophantically adherent to the party line when  he omits mention
of Israeli military supremacy choosing instead to project into the public
domain allegations as to Palestinians secreting arms in ambulances entering
into Palestinian refugee camps.

Mary Kelly quite correctly calls on Hanly to provide the source of his
information.

-   TEXT OF INTERVIEW  WITH MARY KELLY BY RTE”S DAVID HANLY –
-   12.4.2002 :

David Hanly (DH) – We’ll go to the middle east now to the Middle East now …
Specifically the town of Nablus, a town of 180 000 people which was invaded
by Israeli forces a week ago. Mary Kelly is working with the Red Crescent in
the town, Mary Kelly good morning to you …

Mary Kelly(MK) – Good morning.

DH – Tell us about your daily life.

MK – I’ve been in Nablus here for three days. It was very difficult to get
into the town because there was many checkpoints so we ended up coming over
the mountains doing a journey of four hours. And the first place we came to
was the hospital, Rafidia hospital and that’s the place I’ve been mostly
based since I’ve been here. The first thing  I want to say is that I want to
appeal all the medical people in Ireland to please protest about the fact
that we’re not allowed to bring medical aid to the people here.  There is a
complete crisis in this hospital. The Israeli government actually agreed
that oxygen could be brought into the hospital for emergency surgery, but
now they’ve reneged on that. The oxygen is being held up at the checkpoints.
That’s the first appeal I want to make today because the situation is very
serious. Also the fact that daily our ambulances are being shot at and this
is totally in contravention of everything that medicine is upposed to be
about. Ambulances are supposed to have safe passage. But I mean I’ve been
out on the ambulance several times. We get constantly held up by tanks. Made
get down from the ambulances. The drivers are forced to strip to show
they’ve no weapons.


RE: ICDSM-Ireland - Solidarity with people of Palestine

2002-04-16 Thread Max Sawicky

 [right-left] ICDSM-Ireland - Solidarity with people of Palestine
 PRESS  RELEASE   -   OPEN  LETTER –
 To Media  -  Politicians  and  to  Friends
 CDSM-IRELAND   -   SOLIDARITY  WITH   PEOPLE  OF  PALESTINE

 John Kelly – Committee to Defend Slobodan Milosevic – Ireland

at this point I had to ask myself why I should read any further.  -- mbs




dem. cent. Venezuela

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Brown

 dem. cent.  Venezuela
by Devine, James
16 April 2002 18:33 UTC
Thread Index


[was: RE: [PEN-L:24983] Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)]

I wrote: In leftist theory, democratic centralism refers to the
organization of the  revolutionary political party. The theory says that
when a party's membership decides on a policy (a line, a program) it is
binding on members of that party, including its leadership. Though they may
disagree with it at party forums, they should not do so openly, when
non-party people are  around. 
 
CB:By and large, we can be more specific than leftist theory , and
attribute democratic centralism to Leninist theory.  

It's from Lenin, but much of what's been written on democratic centralism
comes from his epigones (Stalinists, Trotskyists, etc.), who are within the
broad tradition of Marxism.  A lot of it also came from Kautsky, from whom
Lenin learned his stuff (see WHAT IS TO BE DONE?) 



CB: Epigones are ? Are followers of Hal Draper his epigones ?


^



The phrase Leninist theory is quite ambiguous since it is a contested
theory (even more than Marxist theory), with Lenin's epigones fighting over
it. Even Lenin himself did not follow a consistent theory all through his
career (see, for example, Tony Cliff's multi-volume book on Lenin). It's
unclear that such a dynamically changing vision can or should be distilled
into an ism. 



CB: It wasn't so ambiguous to Lenin that it prevented him from taking definite and 
effective action. This is a key principle of both Marx and Lenin: not to get caught up 
in academic style ambiguities so as to fail to unite theory with action. 

Actually, compared with most other theories in this area, Lenin's is relatively 
unambiguous.  And certainly in the spirit of Leninism, it would be out of character to 
emphasize any ambiguities so as to reach the conclusion that there is just too much 
uncertainty about Lenin's ideas and theory that it cannot serve as a guide to our 
action.

The development in Lenin's thinking might be your overlooking that he is very 
concrete, so as things develop , he develops. 








In retrospect, it was a major mistake by 20th century revolutionary leftists
to attach too much prestige to any single individual, including Lenin. (It
was probably a mistake to do this to Marx, too. The poor old guy must roll
in his grave every time his name is invoked.) 


^

CB: I don't see any proof put forth here to support the proposition that Lenin 
shouldn't have the prestige he has.

  I very much doubt that Marx would be upset that he has had so much influence after 
his death if he could know it. He certainly spent a lot of time developing a very 
distinct point of view, and he was very picky about criticizing pretty much everybody 
else except Engels. So, the modesty you suggest doesn't immediately square with much 
of his style and personality.

^




 
CB: On the other hand, Lenin's theory of democratic centralism can be
generalized beyond the specific Bolshevik situation as a way of analyzing
and organizing the relationship between the working class masses and its
leadership whereever the class struggle is hot, as in Venezuela.

Democratic centralism has always referred to a mode of party organization,
not to a mode of analysis. You can stretch the meaning of this phrase if you
want to (as academics so often do), but it makes it incoherent to me and to
most other people.



CB: A key thing about the Party and party democracy ( the democratic in democratic 
centralism)  is that it be closely connected with the masses. You can't be democratic 
if you are not connected to the masses. The democratic in democratic centralism must 
be the extensive connections between the masses and its leaders in the Party.

It's incoherent to you because you have an idea that practictioners of it have not 
been connected to the masses.  If you don't get the emphasis on connection between the 
party and the masses, then you don't understand the  democratic  in democratic 
centralist theory.






Though there are likely organizations in Venezuela that are organized in a
democratic centralist way, the mass demonstrations in favor of Chavez
don't fit that description unless they are simply as part of a party. It
looks to me instead that there's a lot of spontaneity going on. That is,
people were demonstrating in favor of Chavez because they liked him, not
because they belonged to a party-type organization. The Bolivarist
organization did not simply orchestrate the anti-coup movements. (Of course,
if my facts are wrong, I'd like to be told.)

CB: It is highly unlikely that the response of the overwhelming numbers of
workers and of the soldiers who remained loyal to Chavez was essentially
spontaneous. It evidenced a high level of consciousness.

I didn't say politically unconcious. In fact, I put the word spontaneity
in quotes for a reason, because spontaneity is a vague 

BLS Daily Report

2002-04-16 Thread Richardson_D

RELEASED TODAY: The Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U)
rose 0.6 percent in March, before seasonal adjustment, to a level of 178.8
(1982-84=100), the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. For the
12-month period ended in March, the CPI-U increased 1.5 percent. The
Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W)
also increased 0.6 percent in March, prior to seasonal adjustment. The March
level of 174.7 was 1.2 percent higher than the index in March 2001.

RELEASED TODAY: Real average weekly earnings were about unchanged from
February to March after seasonal adjustment, according to preliminary data
released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. A  0.3 percent increase in
average hourly earnings was offset by a 0.3 percent increase in the Consumer
Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W). Average
weekly hours were unchanged.

Lingering weakness in the U.S. labor market makes it unlikely that private
industry employers will feel pressured to boost workers' annual wages by
more than about 3.5 percent over the remainder of this year, according to
new Wage Trend Indicator figures released April 16 by BNADesigned as a
leading indicator of private industry wage trends, the WTI predicts turning
points six to seven months in advance of when they are evident in the
government's employment cost index. Compiled by the Bureau of Labor
Statistics, the ECI is the government's broadest measure of compensation.
BLS is scheduled to release first quarter ECI figures on April 25 ( Daily
Labor Report, page D-1).

DUE OUT TOMORROW: Usual Weekly Earnings of Wage and Salary Workers: First
Quarter 2002


application/ms-tnef

Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu

 CB: Is this corporate hierarchy a bureaucracy too ?

Sure Charles. This one is bureaucracy at its worst. Do you have
any doubts? If you do, I strongly recommend that you seek
employment with, say, Goldman Sachs Asset Management, Barclays
Global Investors, Merrill Lynch Investment Management, Putnam
Investment Management, PIMCO and the like. Just try it, if you
get the job, you will see what I mean.

Sabri

P.S: We are talking about organizational forms, Charles. This has
nothing to do with the objectives of the organizations, however
well/bad meaning they may be. There is an interesting book by
Oliver Williamson that I bought a while ago but have not read
yet. It is entitled something like Institutions of Capitalism
or some such name. He is the founder of this transaction costs
economics and will most likely receive a Noble Prize in the next
few years. I met him a few times in some social gatherings as a
matter of coincidence and had a chance to chat with him on the
topic, although I must confess what he explained was way above my
head. Read it, and if I understood anything from Oliver, you will
see that Gunder Frank is right in that, Oliver doesn't know how
Marxist he is.




Re: Difference between corporations and party responsibility

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu

Miyachi wrote:

 Thank you for your reply

 As for decentralized responsibility, party cell duty is
 regular report to central committee and maintain  party's
 program. If he has not ability to this duty, simply he must
 give up, or choose to change his duty. Here no command exists.
 Only member's will and passion is required. In a sense This
 type of organization is network-type like Al-Qaeda. On the
contrary,
 for example, in US financial corporations as you, You may
decision
 business yourself, but you must seek profit in decentralized
 responsibility. If you fail to raise profit, you fire. It is
the
 difference between party and corporation.

I am not sure if there is a serious difference between party and
corporation, except from the objectives. Both are organizations
with objectives.

If in a democratically centralized party, that is, in a party
where leadership is centralized whereas responsibility is
decentralized, what is required is only the member's will and
passion, and there is no command, why do we need leaders, or a
program? Will and passion would suffice, wouldn't they?

Also, how are we going to decide whose duty is what and whether a
person has the ability to perform his/her duty?

I think these are important questions to discuss.

Thanks Miyachi for your contributions,

Sabri

P.S: I am against commands of any kind, by the way. Just say
please, please.




Millions on Strike in Italy

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu

Millions on Strike in Italy
Tue Apr 16, 6:39 PM ET
By CANDICE HUGHES, Associated Press Writer

ROME (AP) - Millions of Italians staged the biggest strike in
decades Tuesday to protest the government's plans to make it
easier to fire workers. Airports were almost deserted, few trains
were running, and banks, schools and post offices were closed.

Workers by the thousands gathered in piazzas throughout the
country for mostly festive rallies headed by union leaders and
center-left politicians and sprinkled with celebrities supporting
the general strike.

In Rome, Oscar-winner Roberto Benigni, of Life is Beautiful
fame, brightened up a huge demonstration in the Piazza di Popolo.
It's a grand demonstration, he said as the crowd roared its
approval. Everything is beautiful.

In Bologna, demonstrators danced to the music of rock bands.
It's the joy of being united, explained Matteo Pallacani, a
22-year-old draped in a scarlet Che Guevara flag and wraparound
sunglasses despite a pouring rain.

The strike did not bring Italy to a standstill, but it slowed it
down considerably. Hospitals were providing emergency services
only and many factories stayed off the job. Fiat Group said
nearly half its workers took part; unions claimed it was 90
percent.

About half the usual number of passenger trains were operating,
said state railway spokesman Carmine Amodeo. Many people knew of
the strike beforehand so they avoided being stranded at
stations, he added.

Many foreign carriers, including British Airways, Iberia and
Lufthansa, canceled flights; Alitalia, the national airline,
scratched more than two-thirds of its flights by midday, said a
spokeswoman.

At Rome's Leonardo da Vinci airport, international check-in
counters were almost deserted. Milan's two airports, Malpensa and
Linate, were also at a virtual standstill, said Claudio Bianco,
head of the Malpensa-Linate press office.

The strike, organized by Italy's top three unions CGIL, CISL and
UIL, is labor's response to conservative Premier Silvio
Berlusconi's vow to reform Italian labor laws, some of the most
restrictive in Europe.

CGIL spokesman Alessandro Valentini said participation was very
high even in the more conservative north. In many factories,
virtually all workers had put down their tools, he said.

Talks with unions that the conservative government had hoped
would avert the strike broke down last month. Tensions were
aggravated by the slaying of one of the architects of labor
reform amid suggestions from Berlusconi's circle that unions
fostered a charged atmosphere that contributed to the crime. The
killing was claimed by the leftist Red Brigades terrorist group.

The main impasse is over a reform that would eliminate rules
requiring employers to take back workers found to have been fired
for unjust causes. Employers complain those rules hamper their
ability to get rid of unneeded workers. Under the proposed
reform, employers would have to pay the workers compensation but
not take them back.

The government insists the reforms are necessary to make the
Italian economy more competitive and attract foreign investment.
The unions say the reforms will cost dearly in hard-won job
security, widen the gap between rich and poor and undermine
Italy's social stability.




Request for help

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu

Friends,

There is a news piece at ntvmsnbc. It is here:

http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/146569.asp

The piece is in Turkish. That means, unless you know Turkish, you
will not understand what the hell this piece is about. Believe
me, it is a good article about Venzuela, USA and the coup. Among
other things, it claims that the lectures from the US about
fredoom and demcoracy are garbage (hey, I am being polite here).

If you scroll down the above quoted page, you will see someting
like this:

---

NTVMSNBC KULLANICILARININ TOP 10'u

Bu haberi di?er okuyucular?m?za tavsiye eder misiniz?
hay?r 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 kesinlikle

-

When there, just click on 7 please. This is a voting mechanism to
determine the TOP 10 list of articles read from ntvmsnbc, which
gets read by a decent number of people.

Give your helping hand to this poor friend from Turkey please,

Sabri


P.S: As you can see, living in Berkeley is a wonderful thing. You
get to learn a few tricks from the local pan-handlers.




Re: The exchange value of currencies

2002-04-16 Thread Romain Kroes

Not at all, Chris. Exchange value of currencies does not belong to any
Marxist theory, as Marx believed in a gold currency for ever.
Actually, exchange value of currencies depends on the sign of the balances
of trade, with a reversion of the law when the currency of world system's
metropolis has been imposed as the common currency, like today's dollar. And
this is completely out of Marxist theories.
RK
- Original Message -
From: Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:50 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:25010] The exchange value of currencies


 The organic composition of capital is the measure of the exchange value of
 currencies.

 Is this a correct application of marxism?

 Chris Burford








Re: Difference between corporations and party responsibility

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu

On another note, what happens if there are more than one
democratically centralized parties, each claiming to be the
vanguard of the working and allied classes? Which one gets to
lead the revolution?

Sabri

P.S: I lost the count of such vanguard parties in Turkey. There
are way too many.




RE: Re: The exchange value of currencies

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James


Romain writes:... Exchange value of currencies does not belong to any
Marxist theory, as Marx believed in a gold currency for ever.

It's more accurate to say that Marx _assumed_ that gold was the
international currency, since he hadn't thought of a world dominated by a
single hegemon that could impose its fiat money on the world the way the US
did. (Contrary to myth, Marx was no seer.) Some later Marxists made the gold
standard a dogma, though.

Given the gold standard, Marx's theory did have a role for exchange rates.
Somewhere in volume III of CAPITAL, he wrote that if too much fiat money was
produced, the exchange rate between it and gold would fall (so that it would
lose value relative to gold). (This is hardly controversial, by the way.)

Actually, exchange value of currencies depends on the sign of the
balances of trade, with a reversion of the law when the currency of world
system's metropolis has been imposed as the common currency, like today's
dollar. And  this is completely out of Marxist theories.

to say that the dollar standard is completely out of the Marxist theories
is to assume that there's nothing to Marxist theory but quotes from old
books and dogma. I believe that this assumption is wrong, that the basic
concepts from Marx (which do NOT include the gold standard) can be applied
to new situations and new theories. 

-- Jim Devine




RE: Re: Difference between corporations and party responsibility

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James

Sabri Oncu writes:
On another note, what happens if there are more than one democratically
centralized parties, each claiming to be the vanguard of the working and
allied classes? Which one gets to lead the revolution?

the one that's correctly following Lenin. It should be obvious, comrade!
JD




The exchange value of currencies

2002-04-16 Thread Chris Burford

The organic composition of capital is the measure of the exchange value of 
currencies.

Is this a correct application of marxism?

Chris Burford






RE: Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James

Sabri writes:There is an interesting book by Oliver Williamson that I
bought a while ago but have not read yet. It is entitled something like
Institutions of Capitalism or some such name. He is the founder of this
transaction costs economics and will most likely receive a Noble [sic!]
Prize in the next few years. I met him a few times in some social gatherings
as a matter of coincidence and had a chance to chat with him on the topic,
although I must confess what he explained was way above my head. Read it,
and if I understood anything from Oliver, you will see that Gunder Frank is
right in that, Oliver doesn't know how Marxist he is. 

My impression is that Williamson studies non-market institutions in order to
show that corporate hierarchies are a good thing. One of his arguments is
that other forms of organization lack the single-mindedness of a corporation
(referring to the profit-seeking lust that they have). When I read his stuff
years ago -- in preparing an article that Michael Reich and I got published
in the REVIEW OF RADICAL POLTIICAL ECONOMICS -- I concluded that there was a
basic conflict between capitalists and workers at the center of his theory.
Capitalists were striving to attain the collective good for all that worked
for the corporation, while disgruntled workers were mere free riders,
undermining the collective good. But maybe I mushed his views up with some
of the other orthodox authors. 
JD




Re: rate of return on capital

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi

One reason why some developing countries are reported to offer high rates of
return (in the popular press) is simply outside and inside manipulation of
their equities markets. I've seen this time and again when the venture banks
latch onto a flavor of the month market and hype it. In 1996 I kept getting
phone calls from a bunch in the Philippines with promising market sector and
key company picks. I didn't bite. Up until 1997, wasn't that the Asian
miracle. All that capital getting high rates of return for doing nothing
much of anything.

Charles Jannuzi




Re: New Welfare Study from EPI

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi


 NEW DATA SHOW WELFARE FAILS TO HELP FAMILIES
 MAKE SUCCESSFUL TRANSITIONS TO WORK

Wouldn't a more accurate title say how welfare REFORM--you know, the new new
welfare for the new new economy-- fails to help, and then there is the issue
of so many jobs not providing a living wage.
Anyway, the title reads like another conservative rant against welfare.

C. Jannuzi




Murdoch Launches New China Channel

2002-04-16 Thread Ulhas Joglekar

The Financial Express

March 30, 2002

News Corp's Star TV Switches On New China Channel

Beijing, March 29:  The Asian satellite TV unit of Rupert Murdoch's News
Corp, Star TV, has begun transmitting a new channel made for China in the
affluent southern province of Guangdong, a company official said on Friday.
News Corp spokesman Wang Yukui said the channel, called Xingkong Weishi,
began transmission on Thursday, and is available via cable to about a
million homes.
It is one of three foreign-owned channels that won permission late last year
to be aired in ordinary Chinese homes in a series of deals showing China's
willingness to slowly open up its broadcast media.
While most foreign media giants looking for ways to profit from China's
fast-growing media market are likely remain confined to supplying
programmes, Star and two other foreign channels will be able to tap
potentially lucrative advertising revenues. AOL Time Warner Inc's Hong
Kong-based CETV channel and HongKong's Phoenix Satellite TV -- 28 per cent
owned by News Corp -- also won airing rights in Guangdong last year, making
the province a test-bed for foreign programming.
Before they were given those rights, foreign broadcasters were allowed to
broadcast only to hotels above three stars and to foreigner-approved
residences.
Analysts say Beijing is loathe to yield its grip on the media in the
sensitive run-up to a leadership reshuffle later this year and during China'
s first year in the World Trade Organisation. Packed with game shows, a
situation comedy and a dance show mostly produced in China, Xingkong Weishi
will be shown in many homes in Guangdong hooked up to cable, Mr Wang of News
Corp said in Beijing. Of course we hope that more people can watch this
channel. But that would require further agreements, he said. Mr James
Murdoch, son of Mr Rupert Murdoch and chairman and chief executive of Hong
Kong-based Star Group, attended a launch party for the new channel in
Guangzhou on Thursday night, Mr Wang said.
- Reuters

© 2002: Indian Express Newspapers (Bombay) Ltd. All rights reserved
throughout the world.









Re: Request for help

2002-04-16 Thread Eugene Coyle

Sabri, I clicked on 7 but I didn't give them my credit card #.

Gene

Sabri Oncu wrote:

 Friends,

 There is a news piece at ntvmsnbc. It is here:

 http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/146569.asp

 The piece is in Turkish. That means, unless you know Turkish, you
 will not understand what the hell this piece is about. Believe
 me, it is a good article about Venzuela, USA and the coup. Among
 other things, it claims that the lectures from the US about
 fredoom and demcoracy are garbage (hey, I am being polite here).

 If you scroll down the above quoted page, you will see someting
 like this:

 ---

 NTVMSNBC KULLANICILARININ TOP 10'u

 Bu haberi di?er okuyucular?m?za tavsiye eder misiniz?
 hay?r 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 kesinlikle

 -

 When there, just click on 7 please. This is a voting mechanism to
 determine the TOP 10 list of articles read from ntvmsnbc, which
 gets read by a decent number of people.

 Give your helping hand to this poor friend from Turkey please,

 Sabri

 P.S: As you can see, living in Berkeley is a wonderful thing. You
 get to learn a few tricks from the local pan-handlers.




Re: RE: Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread michael perelman

You are absolutely correct.

Devine, James wrote:

 My impression is that Williamson studies non-market institutions in order to
 show that corporate hierarchies are a good thing. 

-- 

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
 
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Request for help

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu

 Sabri, I clicked on 7 but I didn't give
 them my credit card #.

 Gene

Thanks,

It is okay. When you came to Berkeley, you can buy me a beer or
two, as our Vietnam vets say here. By the way, I was serious with
my this request. The article I mentioned is unusual for MSNBC in
the sense that it is against the current, that is, defying the
correct line. I was quite surprised to see an article like that
there. Apparently, its author remembered his college days, when
he was out in the streets in the 1970s, protesting against the US
imperialism.

Best,
Sabri




Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu

Michael writes:

 You are absolutely correct.

 Devine, James wrote:

 My impression is that Williamson studies non-market
 institutions in order to show that corporate hierarchies
 are a good thing.

I don't know whether he studies market or non-market institutions
but other than that what Jim said was more or less what he told
me or what I recall from the things he told me: hierarchical
and/or centralized forms of governance for the institutions of
capitalism are/can be better than other organizational forms.

Moreover, he had no urge to make use of the word democracy as
he was making his claims. As I heard many times in the business
world:

We are a business, we are not a democracy!

Here is another one:

We are not in the business of doing good. We do business and
good comes out of it!

More or less, that is, as far as I recall.

Sabri





Re: Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Ian Murray


- Original Message -
From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PEN-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:30 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:25023] Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism


 Michael writes:

  You are absolutely correct.
 
  Devine, James wrote:
 
  My impression is that Williamson studies non-market
  institutions in order to show that corporate hierarchies
  are a good thing.

 I don't know whether he studies market or non-market institutions
 but other than that what Jim said was more or less what he told
 me or what I recall from the things he told me: hierarchical
 and/or centralized forms of governance for the institutions of
 capitalism are/can be better than other organizational forms.

 Moreover, he had no urge to make use of the word democracy as
 he was making his claims. As I heard many times in the business
 world:

 We are a business, we are not a democracy!

 Here is another one:

 We are not in the business of doing good. We do business and
 good comes out of it!

 More or less, that is, as far as I recall.

 Sabri



Would that Williamson and his fellow apologists do some actual economic
anthropology and sign up for a stint as a mail room clerk or executive assistant,
a cosmetics salesperson or an air traffic controller or load trucks or be a school
bus driver to see how accurately their categories, narratives and explanations map
the actual lobotomizing practices of today's big firms.

Business administration depts. are the breeding grounds for authoritarian,
autocratic personalities and they ought to be dismantled and rolled into those
remaining departments  that could teach them something about democracy and
manners

Ian




Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu

Jim writes on Williamson:

 I concluded that there was basic conflict between
 capitalists and workers at the center of his theory.
 Capitalists were striving to attain the collective
 good for all that worked for the corporation, while
 disgruntled workers were mere free riders, undermining
 the collective good.

Interesting. This means, I was a free rider then, but luckily, as
the CEO of my current one man company, I am a happy capitalist
striving for the collective good of all. I am proud or what?

I guess there is a serious theoretical problem here but hey!

However, what is more interesting is his recognition of the
basic conflict between capitalists and workers. I guess this is
basically what led me to conclude that he doesn't know how
Marxist he is, based on my intuition and what I heard from him.

Can Jim or anyone else who knows about transaction costs
economics give a summary of what it is?

Best
Sabri




EU demands for dismantling the CAP

2002-04-16 Thread Ian Murray

[you'll need to click on the article link to get to the other links which lay out
the demands country by country]

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/globalisation/story/0,7369,685670,00.html 
Secret documents reveal EU's tough stance on global trade

The documents are at the foot of this article. To read them you need Adobe Acrobat
Reader. Get it here.

John Vidal, Charlotte Denny and Larry Elliott
Wednesday April 17, 2002
The Guardian

The European Union is demanding full-scale privatisation of public monopolies
across the world as its price for dismantling the common agricultural policy in the
new round of global trade talks, secret documents leaked to the Guardian revealed
yesterday.

The sweeping requests for the opening up of sensitive sectors of its trading
partners' economies including water, energy, sewerage, telecoms, post and financial
services are contained in a 1,000-page draft document prepared by Brussels
officials for approval by member states next month.

Europe has spelled out in detail a long list of restrictions which it wants its
trading partners to drop. These include requirements that New York estate agents be
US nationals, a ban in Mexico on foreigners owning land within 50km of the border
and rules in Korea restricting the sale of alcohol to licensed providers.

Many of Europe's demands are likely to meet with bitter opposition from its trading
partners, resentful that Brussels is dragging its feet on opening up its own
markets in key areas. In some areas, such as energy and postal services, Brussels
wants other countries to break up national monopolies which its own member states
have been reluctant to tackle.

The draft negotiating strategy has provoked alarm among development campaigners who
fear the ultimate goal is to push poor countries into privatising public services
like health and education.

We are shocked by how the the EU is preparing to trample over its claims to be in
favour of sustainable development in the naked pursuit of the interests of European
 multinational service corporations, said Dave Timms from the World Development
Movement. These documents confirm our worst fears about these negotiations. The EU
is targeting sectors where there is no evidence that liberalisation benefits
developing countries.

With Brussels under mounting pressure from its trading partners to scrap its
expensive system of agricultural subsidies and tariff walls in the new round of
talks launched in Doha last November, Europe's top trade official, Pascal Lamy is
hoping to make major gains at the negotiating table in the increasingly lucrative
global trade in services, particularly in the financial sector.

The EU wants its companies to be able to compete on an equal footing with local
firms which will require its trading partners to scrap rules banning foreign
competition and ownership in sensitive parts of their economies. The strategy is
the fruit of years of lobbying by Europe's financial services sector which is
hoping to expand throughout Latin America and Asia.

With the City of London, home to the most sophisticated financial industry in
Europe, Britain is likely to be a big winner; Mr Lamy's initiative has enthusiastic
backing in Westminster.

Read the documents here
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Re: Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Perelman

Transactions cost economics -- this will be brief after 6 hours of
classes, 2 hours at the gym -- starts with Ronald Coase, who explains that
firms arise to minimize the cost of negotiating via markets, say by
writing a contract with specific requirements.  Robertson refered to firms
as islands of planning.  But planning gets unwieldy if the organization
gets too big, so socialism is a no-no.

Williamson was at Carnegie, where he picked up a great deal from Herbert
Simon about dealing with uncertainty, but then he rejected Simon later.
 -- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
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Re: Re: Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Ian Murray

There's a bit of the TC approach in John Commons as well..

Ian
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 Transactions cost economics -- this will be brief after 6 hours of
 classes, 2 hours at the gym -- starts with Ronald Coase, who explains that
 firms arise to minimize the cost of negotiating via markets, say by
 writing a contract with specific requirements.  Robertson refered to firms
 as islands of planning.  But planning gets unwieldy if the organization
 gets too big, so socialism is a no-no.
 
 Williamson was at Carnegie, where he picked up a great deal from Herbert
 Simon about dealing with uncertainty, but then he rejected Simon later.
  -- 
 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929
 
 Tel. 530-898-5321
 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]