Turkish/French tensions: Turkey's honor disgraced

2002-05-10 Thread Sabri Oncu

By the way, as a citizen of Turkey, I don't see any reason for
feeling so bad about this. A loose translation of a Turkish
saying goes like this:

What can you argue against the truth?

Best,
Sabri

+++

Turkey considers embargo on France

Ankara - Turkish Daily News
May 9, 2002

RSF insolence

Journalist association causes crisis between Turkey and France by
placing Chief of Staff Gen. Kivrikoglu's photograph on the floor
of a railway entrance in Paris and accusing him of oppressing
press freedom in Turkey

Act immediately, or...

Turkey officially demands from France removal of Kivrikoglu's
picture be removed from railway station floor or 'military
agreements between Turkey and France could be reviewed and could
be frozen'

France adamant

French Ambassador Garcia points out during a meeting with Foreign
Ministry Undersecretary Ugur Ziyal that the RSF is an
nongovernmental organization, however he will inform the French
authorities about Turkey's reaction

--

The journalists' association, Reporters Sans Frontieres
(Reporters without Borders), caused a crisis between Turkey and
France by laying a picture of Turkish Chief of General Staff Maj.
Gen. Huseyin Kivrikoglu on the floor of a railway station in
Paris. The association exhibited a map of countries and pictures
of state leaders they say are enemies to the freedom of the
press.

The Prime Ministry, on the other hand, declared in a written
statement that Turkey has clearly stated in talks with French
authorities that Ankara has expected France to urgently remove
the photo of Gen. Kivrikoglu from the floor of the Paris train
station.

The Defence Ministry said that the French military attache had
been called to General Staff Headquarters on Tuesday and was told
that the map, displayed at the Saint Lazare station, should be
removed immediately. He was told...this insulting attitude
towards Gen. Kivrikoglu must end, an official said. The attache
was also informed that should this attitude continue, military
agreements between Turkey and France could be reviewed and could
be frozen.

Foreign ministry takes action

Turkish Foreign Ministry Undersecretary Ugur Ziyal has invited
French Ambassador Bernard Garcia to the ministry to inform him
that the journalist association's attitude is strongly protested.
Ziyal demanded that the picture be removed and that necessary
measures be taken to protect Turkey's image. According to
diplomatic sources, Turkey will closely follow every action being
taken. A high-level diplomatic source said that if they want the
picture to be removed then they can do it. The other remaining
problems with France have not yet been solved. During the
half-hour meeting, Garcia pointed out that the association is an
nongovernmental organization (NGO), however he will inform the
French authorities about Turkey's reaction.

Military relations have already been frozen once

Due to a decision made by the French Assembly on the so-called
Armenian genocide, the Turkish Military General Staff placed an
embargo on French military goods. The embargo, which lasted
almost a year, ended late February during a visit to Ankara by
the French defence minister.

Turkey's opponents appointed to French Cabinet

Renaud Donnedieu has been appointed to the ministry responsible
for France's European relations. Donnedieu is known as a strong
opponent of Turkey's membership to the EU, severely criticizing
Turkey many times in the past, claiming that Turkey's membership
to the EU is against EU nature and also mentioned the so-called
armenian genocide. It was also announced that the Armenian
terrorist organizations' former advocate, Armenian Patrick
Deveciyan, has been appointed to the Interior Ministry as a
deputy minister.

The Association is silent

The association made a press statement after the Turkish reaction
to explain their reasons for laying Kivrikoglu's picture on the
floor. The statement emphasized that the actions taken against
two journalists, Erol Ozkoray and Fikret Baskaya, are behind the
protest. It is also mentioned that the Supreme Board of Radio and
Television's (RTUK) actions were being protested. Since the
association's office was closed due to a French holiday, it was
not possible to obtain more information on their reactions to
Turkey's requests.

One event two reactions

Deputy Prime minister Mesut Yilmaz declared during his visit to
the Turkish Union of Chambers and Commodities Exchanges (TOBB)
that he does not take the association's action seriously. Yilmaz,
stating that Europe was a region that strongly upheld the freedom
of expression said there are so many institutions which conduct
nonsensical activities. I do not take this event as seriously as
Kivrikoglu does. On the other hand, the Nationalist Movement
Party (MHP) issued a press statement declaring that Turkey should
take action against the event. Sefkat Cetin, in the name of the
party, announced that not only Kivrikoglu's 

Re: Problems of the Left in North America

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Pugliese

   Lou called me a Tawat on pen-l, yesterday. Whatta loon.
Michael Pugliese, Twatskyist

5/10/02 7:03:00 AM, Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 03:37 AM 5/10/2002 -0500, Dr. Paul Stevenson wrote:
Louis Proyect has taken a potshot at Ellen Meiksins Wood, Leo Panitch and
Cloin Leys and has provided absolutely no evidence as to why such a potshot
is justified. He has accused Wood of being intellectually lazy and has
basically stated that the Socialist Register (edited by Panitch and Leys)
as not being on the left, or on the socialist left, or, much less, on
the Marxist left. Again, absolutely no evidence in support of such a
position is offered. Whether or not, any or all of these individuals is an
enemy of Marxism and stalling the class struggle might be a debatable point
(all in my view are strong Marxists and strong supporters of a radical
leftwing socialism regardless of the comradely disagreements we each might
have with what their respective positions on this or that might be
[frankly, much of what each and all have written and said I find myself in
agreement with]). Frankly, we on the left (especially in North America)
need to find all the common ground we can and we certainly do not need to
throw out insulting epithets at people and not provide some really good
documentation for doing so. 

--

Reply:
I am not sure what you mean by potshot. I described Socialist Register as a
general interest social democratic journal. Since Leon Panitch, one of the
co-editors, has argued forcefully against what he calls Leninism, I am not
sure what the problem is. Oh, I think I know. It is rather fashionable on
the left academy to make fire and brimstone speeches about the evils of
capitalism, but it is not so fashionable to actually roll up your sleeves
and construct Marxist organizations. I find it vastly amusing that such
figures as the SR editors, Immanuel Wallerstein, Barbara Epstein, Slavoj
Zizek and Michael Hardt end up giving speeches on how to make a revolution.
I don't think any of them ever made a leaflet in their illustrious lives.

As far as Wood is concerned, I have replied to both her and Brenner on my
own email list:

1. The Brenner Thesis

2. The Brenner Thesis, Ireland and Spain

3. The Brenner Thesis as Iberiantalism

4. Testing the Brenner Thesis Against Colonial Spain and Modern South Africa

All of these are located at:
http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/economics.htm along with a review of
the late Jim Blaut's 8 Eurocentric Historians that appeared in Socialism
and Democracy originally. I began to take an interest in the Brenner
Thesis after running into Jim on Marxmail, where we became very close
politically.

As far as Colin Leys is concerned, I had a running exchange with him that
can be found at:

http://www.mail-archive.com/marxism%40lists.panix.com/msg29637.html

John Enyang, a Kenyan graduate student, also replied to him as follows:

Colin Leys  wrote:

  2) The reaction against the then prevailing dependency
  interpretation of African development was more linked to
  Lenin's critique of the narodniks than to Marx's Preface to
  Volume 1 of Capital. In particular the dependentistas
  tended, as Lenin said the narodniks did, to picture
  capitalism as something existing in a few 'corners' of the
  economy, i.e. foreign-owned plants and estates and their
  penumbra of financial and other services, plus the ports and
  the railway system, and to see the rest of the economy as
  consisting of precapitalist social relations, capable of
  supporting some sort of non-capitalist alternative
  development path.


By the mid-1950's the large majority of the Kenyan population had
been either (i) expropriated of their land by the settlers who
turned them into wage labourers on their plantations or (ii) been
forced into the cash economy and through devices like hut-taxes and
head-taxes imposed by the Britishers to stimulate the interest
of the otherwise reluctant natives in export cash crops -- coffee,
tea. [Exceptions to this would be pastoral peoples in the rather
sparsely populated regions like Turkana, who retained relative
autonomy from the colonial economy]. In the words of a character
of Ngugi, 'the foreigner from Europe was cunning: he took their
land and their sweat and their wealth [livestock], and told them
that the coins he had brought, which could not be eaten, were the
true wealth'.


  Of course a lot of Kenyan
  capitalists are dependent on foreign capital, as -
  nowadays - are a lot of British, Canadian, and even American
  capitalists, though much less so of course.


A most peculiar statement. The relations which exist between say
German and Japanese capital are in no way comparable with the
relation between British capital and the Kenyan elites. Nor would
anybody in their right mind would argue that the German capitalist
class has no independent existence beyond acting as the local
business agent of Japanese capital. But this is a good approximation
to the 

Barbara Epstein

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Pugliese

   Lou, you are such a **!!!
   Barbara Epstein at UCSC, if you'd read her book from U.C. Press on cultural 
and political radicalism or her pieces in Socialist Review started her activist 
carrer in the du Bois Clubs, if my memory serves, in the early 60's, moving on to 
SDS, like Steve Max.
   That you have such raging hostility to academic leftists makes me think that 
you haver deep seated anti-intellectual tendencies, however mant thousands of 
books you've read on Te Polical Economy opf Andulusian Textile Weavers From 1850-
1925.
Michael Pugliese, Twatskyist




Re: Re: Problems of the Left in North America

2002-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect

At 07:51 AM 5/10/2002 -0700, Michael Pugliese wrote:
   Lou called me a Tawat on pen-l, yesterday. Whatta loon.
Michael Pugliese, Twatskyist

I don't understand how Michael Pugliese has become so confused. He is
responding to an exchange I had on PSN, not PEN-L, number one. Number two,
if you check the PEN-L archives
(http://csf.colorado.edu/mail/pen-l/2002II/), you will find no such
reference to me or anybody for that matter calling him a Tawat. Isn't
there some way that PEN-L can be protected from these disruptions?

Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org




Question about the profit rate

2002-05-10 Thread Jurriaan Bendien

Michael,

I still could not attempt to answer your question, because (1) it depends 
on how you define the general rate of profit. For example, do you include 
taxes in the mass of surplus-value, if so, which taxes. (2) It is not clear 
what exactly you mean by endogenous/exogenous. Very few people to my 
knowledge tried to precisely define what this means in Marx's economic 
theory, as distinct from neo-classical economics. For example, Ernest 
Mandel did, but he is not necessarily correct in this, bearing in mind he 
bases himself closely on Marx's unfinished works.

For what it is worth, briefly summarising, I think there has been a 
regime change cause both by internal  factors (for example, change in 
technology) and so-called extra-economic factors (changes in social 
arrangements, institutional arrangements). These create an environment in 
which the rate and mass of surplus-value can rise significantly, and some 
constant capital costs reduced. But to identify and weigh all the factors 
involved would be a huge empirical research project that is beyond my 
capacity. I have trouble enough with one country.  The Dutch Marxist 
scholar Robert Went is publishing a book on the subject in August, called 
The enigma of globalisation (Routledge) but he does not do the empirical 
analysis, he just sketches the frameworks for analysis.

Very sweepingly, I would  say it was discovered it the 1980s that the 
crisis problems of capitalism had been exaggerated and that if you looked 
more closely at the actual functioning of the system and social 
arrangements, there was a lot of slack in it, if you tighten up the 
slack, capitalism motors on. What was required was for the bourgeois 
classes to have some balls and focus better on the key thing, getting 
more productivity.

Jurriaan





removal from list

2002-05-10 Thread Robert Scott Gassler

Please remove me from the PEN-L list. Thank you.




Re: Barbara Epstein

2002-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect

Dear Michael Pugliese,

My criticisms of Barbara Epstein were made on PSN, which stands for
Progressive Sociologists Network. This is PEN-L, which stands for
Progressive Economists Network. They are two different listservs. One
concentrates on sociology, the other on economics. In order to post to PSN,
you need send your email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope this helps.

Yours truly,

Louis Proyect



At 07:58 AM 5/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
   Lou, you are such a **!!!
   Barbara Epstein at UCSC, if you'd read her book from U.C. Press on
cultural 
and political radicalism or her pieces in Socialist Review started her
activist 
carrer in the du Bois Clubs, if my memory serves, in the early 60's,
moving on to 
SDS, like Steve Max.
   That you have such raging hostility to academic leftists makes me think
that 
you haver deep seated anti-intellectual tendencies, however mant thousands
of 
books you've read on Te Polical Economy opf Andulusian Textile Weavers
From 1850-
1925.
Michael Pugliese, Twatskyist



Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org




Colin Leys

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Pugliese

http://www.versobooks.com/
http://www.versobooks.com/books/klm/leys_c_market_politics.shtml














With the globalisation of the capitalist economy the economic role of national 
governments is now largely confined to controlling inflation and facilitating 
home-grown market performance. This represents a fundamental shift in the 
relationship between politics and economics; it has been particularly marked in 
Britain, but is relevant to many other contexts.

Market-Driven Politics is a multi-level study, moving between an analysis of 
global economic forces through national politics to the changes occurring week 
by week in two fields of public life that are both fundamentally important and 
familiar to everyone—television broadcasting and health care. Public services 
like these play an important role, because they both affect the legitimacy of 
the government and are targets for global capital. This book provides an 
original analysis of the key processes of commodification of public services, 
the conversion of public-service workforces into employees motivated to 
generate profit, and the role of the state in absorbing risk. Understanding the 
dynamics of each of these trends becomes critical not just for the analysis of 
market- driven politics but also for the longer-term defence of democracy and 
the collective values on which it depends.

Makes immediate sense to anybody marginally to the left of Ghengis Khan, Mrs 
Thatcher or Newt Gingerich. – John Lonsdale, Trinity College, Cambridge, on 
The Rise and Fall of Development Theory

Colin Leys is Emeritus Professor of Political Studies at Queen’s University, 
Canada. His previous books include Politics in Britain, The Rise and Fall of 
Development Theory and, with Leo Panitch, The End of Parliamentary Socialism.

Publication
Dec. 2001

256 pages


Cloth
1 85984 627 0
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Growing exports and falling incomes

2002-05-10 Thread Ian Murray

 http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1910/19101210.htm
Growing exports, falling incomes
Jayati Ghosh

The latest Trade and Development Report from UNCTAD discusses why
increasing manufacturing exports may not be good enough for developing
countries' income growth.

DIVERSIFICATION of production structures and exports has traditionally
been seen as the key to fast development. Indeed, this has been taken so
much for granted that for much of the past half century the debate among
economists has been not so much about the desirability of this goal, but
of the policies required to achieve it. Marketist neoliberal economists
have argued that the best way is through liberalisation, deregulation and
greater integration of domestic markets with world markets, while
structuralist economists have emphasised the need for domestic structural
change assisted by trade restrictions that promote industrialisation.

In either case, the need to enter new forms of production, to diversify
away from traditional exports, and ideally to enter high-value
manufacturing production, has been taken for granted. But some new
research (discussed in the latest Trade and Development Report (TDR)
produced by the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development
(UNCTAD)) suggests that even this may not be as unproblematic as it
appears, and that product diversification in itself ensures neither more
dynamic exports nor even higher incomes from such activities.

On the face of it, developing countries as a group have achieved an
impressive degree of production diversification over the past two
decades, and this has also been reflected in export performance. From the
early 1980s, merchandise exports from developing countries have been
growing much faster (at 11.3 per cent per annum) than the world average
of 8.4 per cent.

More significantly, there has been a big shift in developing country
exports away from primary commodities (whose share has fallen from 51 per
cent in 1980 to 19 per cent in 1998) and towards manufactured goods,
which now account for more than 80 per cent of their exports. What seems
most promising is that the largest increase has been in the exports of
manufactures with high skill and technology intensity, whose share jumped
from 12 per cent of total developing country exports in 1980 to 31 per
cent in 1998.

Despite all these apparently positive signs, however, there is no
evidence of improved income shares for developing country exporters. In
fact, the Trade and Development Report 2002 argues that while the share
of developing countries in world manufacturing exports, including those
of rapidly growing high-tech products, has been expanding rapidly, the
income earned from such activities does not appear to share in this
dynamism.

This becomes apparent from a comparison of shares in exports and
value-added in world manufacturing. While developing countries as a group
more than doubled their share of world manufacturing exports from 10.6
per cent in 1980 to 26.5 per cent in 1998, their share of manufacturing
value-added increased by less than half, from 16.6 per cent to 23.8 per
cent. By contrast, developed countries experienced a substantial decline
in the share of world manufacturing exports, from 82.3 per cent to 70.9
per cent. But at the same time their share of world manufacturing
value-added actually increased, from 64.5 per cent to 73.3 per cent.

This means that developed countries moved up the value chain much faster,
and that developing country exporters have continued to face problems in
translating export volume growth into income growth. The problem is
compounded by the fact that developing countries remain net importers of
manufactured goods, indeed they have become more so. Imports of
manufactured goods have continuously outpaced exports of such goods for
developing countries, unlike developed countries. Meanwhile,
manufacturing exports have consistently exceeded the value of
manufacturing value-added, once again the opposite of developed
countries.

HOW can we square this with the evidence on product diversification and
entry into dynamic exporting sectors that was mentioned above? After all,
developing countries have been increasingly active traders in what are
seen as the most dynamic sectors of the world economy: computers and
office equipment; telecommunications, audio and video equipment; and
semiconductors.

But the point is that international production and trade in these sectors
exhibit a relatively new pattern, whereby there is a vertical
disintegration of production across locations. That is, different parts
of a production process are dispersed across different geographical
locations, and goods travel across several such locations over the entire
process before reaching final consumers. This is also true of the other
major dynamic export sector: textiles and clothing.

In such sectors, the total value of recorded trade far exceeds the
value-added. But by and large most developing countries 

Re: Re: Re: Problems of the Left in North America

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Pugliese

   You called me a Twat. I mistyped, you !@#$%^*()_+
Michael Pugliese

see the final part of the below.

You are a twat.

Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list: http:/ / www.marxmail.org
5/10/02 8:03:25 AM, Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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From:
Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:
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Date:
Thu, 09 May 2002 21:58:42 -0700

Subject:
Lou Calls Me a Twat

   The juvenile, bullying windbag is  really in need of yrs. of  psychoanalysis
from Joel Kovel.
Michael

Date:
Thu, 09 May 2002 15:48:36 -0400

From:
Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject:
RE: [PEN-L:25828] Re: Re: on the , axis of EEEevil (Richard
Burton in Exorcist II)

To:
michael pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Apologies for my recent extreme   obnoxiousness, first to all.
Even, Lou, who I have learned more   than a few things over the
yrs. But, that said, what is the   Howrad stern of the internet
Left doing talking about manners?   The king of scatology on
alt.politics.socialism.trotsky
newsgroup. My position on Cuban   socialism, briefly. As a left
Shactmanite I'd call it bureucrtic   collectivism, as an oerthodox
trot I'd say it's a deformed workers   state in need of political
revolutiuon from below which would   strengthen the political base
of the regime against the presures   of the world market and the
USG. Opposed to the embargo, in   favor of a careful perestroika
style opening of the the system   without demogogic attacks on
the internal opposition as purely   the creation of the CIA and
CANF. If Lou has ever seen the   documentary by Nestor Alemendros
on Cuba that interviews many exiled   Cuban Communists he would
have a more nuanced, less defensive   p.o.v. that might generate
more respect for his p.o.v. ---   Original Message ---

You are a twat.

Louis Proyect
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5/10/02 8:03:25 AM, Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 07:51 AM 5/10/2002 -0700, Michael Pugliese wrote:
   Lou called me a Tawat on pen-l, yesterday. Whatta loon.
Michael Pugliese, Twatskyist

I don't understand how Michael Pugliese has become so confused. He is
responding to an exchange I had on PSN, not PEN-L, number one. Number two,
if you check the PEN-L archives
(http://csf.colorado.edu/mail/pen-l/2002II/), you will find no such
reference to me or anybody for that matter calling him a Tawat. Isn't
there some way that PEN-L can be protected from these disruptions?

Louis Proyect
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Some people might regard being compared with Proyect as high praise.

 Jim F.

For those of you who have not had a chance to read them, I submit
Proyect's Morning and The Resume of Louis N. Proyect:

PROYECT'S MORNING

Subject: Proyect's Morning
From: uchural
Newsgroups: alt.politics.socialism.trotsky
Date: Wed, Jul 7, 1999 11:36 AM
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Not even noon, and Columbia University's computers have
churned out the following for the world to read:

The Morally Filthy Louis N. Proyect Has a Busy Morning
_

You miserable dirty little cunt

the same fucking rot

You miserable little mother-fucker

Get cancer, you little prick

You have a lot of fucking nerve quoting Rosa Luxemburg

People like yourself who champion Ayn Rand, the Cato Institute, and
Wall Street Journal editorials are no different than the social
democratic scum who murdered Luxemburg and Liebknecht

libertarian scum like yourself are good for nothing except defending
corporate profits

Therefore, you should get your slimy little ass off this newsgroup and
someplace where you belong

Go there, you little slug, and take your co-religionist Airdale with you

No, what would help is if you took a pistol and stuck the barrel in your
mouth and opened fire

your excesses are driving many
people into fantasizing about plunging knitting needles into your
eyeballs

You are nothing but a scumbag troll like
Watson, aren't you

Are you masochistically inclined

Do you have the same
sickness as Watson who probably masturbates after getting flamed

THE RESUME OF LOUIS N. PROYECT

You should seek out professional help
Oh, big fucking deal
obvious that Mor Cota/Big Mac/Justin Flude would piss on Hunter
do you have a problem with reading comprehension
you are so fucking out of it
some sort of problem with your mental capacities
Are you an alcoholic
under the influence of alcohol
an uneducated rustic who can must suffer from blackouts
dumber than the cat he owns
an illiterate clown
incapable of understanding
do you put on clown makeup 

Growing exports and falling incomes

2002-05-10 Thread Jurriaan Bendien

Thanks, Ian. That is the kind of economic information that is pertinent to 
read.





Rebel without a clue

2002-05-10 Thread Tom Walker

RENO, Nev. - The 21-year-old college art student accused of putting pipe
bombs in mailboxes in five states told authorities he was trying to make a
smiley face pattern on the map, a sheriff said Thursday.

The first 16 bombs were arranged in two circles, one in Illinois and Iowa
and the other in Nebraska. On a map, the circles could resemble the eyes of
the popular 1970s happiness symbol. The final two bombs, found in Colorado
and Texas, form an arc that could be the beginning of a smile.

There was a comment made to one of my officers about his hope to make a
smiley face when he was all finished, Pershing County Sheriff Ron Skinner
said.


Tom Walker
604 255 4812




RE: Rebel without a clue

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James

is anyone able to summarize this character's alleged motive for his alleged
bombings?

(BTW, his roommate in college is named Jim Devine -- just like the bent
dermatologist here in L.A.)

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine



 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:35 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PEN-L:25849] Rebel without a clue
 
 
 RENO, Nev. - The 21-year-old college art student accused of 
 putting pipe
 bombs in mailboxes in five states told authorities he was 
 trying to make a
 smiley face pattern on the map, a sheriff said Thursday.
 
 The first 16 bombs were arranged in two circles, one in 
 Illinois and Iowa
 and the other in Nebraska. On a map, the circles could 
 resemble the eyes of
 the popular 1970s happiness symbol. The final two bombs, 
 found in Colorado
 and Texas, form an arc that could be the beginning of a smile.
 
 There was a comment made to one of my officers about his 
 hope to make a
 smiley face when he was all finished, Pershing County 
 Sheriff Ron Skinner
 said.
 
 
 Tom Walker
 604 255 4812
 




ECONOMIST on U.S. GDP growth

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James

Economist.com/America's economy
May 4, 2002
FINANCE  ECONOMICS
A hard act to follow

ON THE face of it, America's economy is roaring back. In real terms, its GDP
grew at an annual rate of 5.8% in the first quarter. It leaves the rest of
the world far behind: Britain's economy grew by just 0.3% in the same
quarter, while the pace for Japan and the euro area is reckoned to have been
no more than 1-2%. America's numbers look almost too good to be true--which
may be why they were followed by falls in share prices and the dollar.

Dig beneath the headline figure for growth and America's performance looks
less miraculous. Almost four-fifths of the bounce in GDP came from firms
reducing their inventories at a slower pace than in the previous quarter,
and from a big jump in government spending. Defence spending grew at an
annual rate of 20%. At the same time, residential construction, up an
annualised 16%, was given a temporary boost by one of the mildest winters on
record. Total final sales (which does not count changes in inventories) rose
at an annual rate of only 2.6%, If one also strips out the jump in defence
spending and, to take a rough guess, half of an unsustainable boom in
construction, then growth falls to a mere 1.5%.

Consumer spending rose by a reasonable 3.5%, but fixed investment by firms
fell, for the fifth consecutive quarter. Alan Greenspan, the chairman of the
Federal Reserve, has said repeatedly that a pick-up in investment is
critical for a sustained economic recovery. But that, in turn, requires
stronger profits.

The new GDP numbers not only showed that growth is less robust than it
seems, but that inflation is unusually weak. The GDP deflator--the amount by
which nominal GDP is adjusted to take inflation into account--rose at an
annual rate of only 0.8% in the first quarter, to give a year-on-year rise
of 1.3%. It will probably fall further: in the past, the GDP deflator has
fallen on average by more than one percentage point in the first year of a
recovery, as productivity has rebounded faster than costs.

An unusually low rate of inflation, combined with uncertainties about the
strength of the recovery, has two big implications. First, the Federal
Reserve is unlikely to raise interest rates in the near future. It will not
want to run the risk of allowing inflation to get too close to zero, where
options for conducting monetary policy rapidly dwindle. Second, the lack of
pricing power is likely to result in a weaker rebound in profits than in
previous recoveries, dampening stockmarket hopes.

The SP 500 index remains one-third below its 2000 peak. Uncertainty about
profits is not the only factor that weighs on share prices. Lombard Street
Research points to something else that may hold down equities: tighter
liquidity. America's broad-money supply, measured by M3, has slowed sharply
in the past three months. Usually, when the money supply grows faster than
GDP, excess liquidity spills into financial markets--as happened late last
year. When money-growth falls below GDP growth, liquidity tends to be
drained out of markets, pushing down share prices. Were the stockmarket to
slide further, strong consumer spending, the main driver of GDP growth in
the first quarter, might come into question.
 
Copyright © 2002 The Economist 

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




The ECONOMIST on U.S. productivity growth.

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James

[Interestingly, the ECONOMIST doesn't mention the role of the over 4%
average annual increase in the nominal major-currencies trade-weighted value
of the dollar -- or over 5% in real terms -- during the period 1996 to 2001.
This is a key factor that would hurt profits despite rising productivity.]

May 11, 2002

FINANCE  ECONOMICS
To these, the spoils

NOT only has America's productivity wonder survived its first recession; it
has positively thrived. Output per man-hour in the non-farm business sector
rose at an annual rate of 8.6% in the first quarter of this year, its
fastest growth in 19 years. Quarterly figures are volatile, yet the
year-on-year growth in productivity was also impressive, at 4.2%. This bodes
well for America's future economic growth--but not necessarily for company
profits, or for share prices.

Commentators cheered the latest evidence of rapid productivity gains, hoping
that it might promise fatter profits ahead. That America's productivity
continued to rise last year, in contrast to previous recessions, seems to
confirm that an increase has taken place in trend productivity growth.
Still, the latest numbers overstate the underlying trend.

First, the growth in output, and hence productivity, was inflated in the
first quarter by a big swing in inventories. Productivity often surges in
the first year of a recovery after recession, as firms produce more without
needing to hire extra workers. Productivity rose by 4-5% in the first year
following both the 1981-82 and the 1990-91 recessions. Firms have actually
continued to cut jobs this year, lifting the unemployment rate in April to
an eight-year high of 6%. Today's best guess is that trend productivity
growth is around 2-2.5%. That is less than the 3-4% claimed at the height of
the new-economy bubble; but still well above the 1.4% average over the two
decades to 1995.

A second, more fundamental quibble is that, although profits will certainly
rebound this year, as firms continue to trim their costs and revenues rise,
in the longer term faster productivity growth does not automatically mean
faster profits growth. A new study by Stephen King, chief economist at the
HSBC bank, concludes that workers and consumers have received the lion's
share of the productivity gains of therevolution in information technology
(IT). Companies have received relatively little reward for their
risk-taking.

In the late 1990s it was widely assumed that faster productivity growth
would mean higher profits (so justifying higher share prices). Over the
previous half-century a strong positive relationship had indeed held between
productivity and profits. In the 1990s that relationship broke down. Despite
a surge in productivity, national-accounts profits (as opposed to profits
reported by companies, a less accurate measure) fell between 1997 and 2000,
even before the economy dipped into recession (see chart). At the end of
2000 the profits of America's non-financial firms were no higher in real
terms than in 1994, implying a big fall in their share of GDP.

Mr King argues that workers (who are, naturally, also consumers) were
virtually the sole beneficiaries of the new economy, in the shape of faster
real wage growth. This was partly thanks to a fall in the prices of IT goods
that they bought. More important, the same IT that spurred productivity also
increased competition more widely across industries, from airlines and
banking to insurance and cars, squeezing prices and profits. Information
technologyreduces barriers to entry, and makes it easier for consumers to
compare prices.

What is more, globalisation, itself spurred by information technology, has
further trimmed the pricing power of firms. HSBC finds that, in most
economies, the correlation between domestic inflation and domestic
unit-labour costs has declined over the past 40 years; the correlation
between domestic inflation and average OECD inflation has risen. In most
countries in the 1990s domestic inflation was more closely correlated with
OECD inflation than it was with domestic costs.

The dismal performance of profits should not surprise. As the IMF's World
Economic Outlook last October pointed out, productivity gains from previous
technological revolutions, from railways and textiles to electricity and the
car, have gone largely to consumers. Each time, a decline in the prices of
goods and services has given a big boost to real incomes. Consumers gained
from cheaper travel or clothes, but profits disappointed. The difference
this time is that new technology has increased competition and squeezed
profit margins across the whole economy.

None of this lessens the overall benefit of faster productivity growth. But
it does lead to some interesting conclusions:

* The profit expectations built into share prices are unrealistic. Even if
productivity growth remains robust, long-term profits growth is likely to be
weaker than expected, making shares overvalued.

* A lower return on equities means 

Conflict in Nepal

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James

[comments?]

Nepal needs reform, not more guns
The Maoist rebellion is a product of gross inequality and misrule

Isabel Hilton
Friday May 10, 2002
The Guardian [U.K.]

When President George Bush promised more military aid to Nepal's visiting
prime minister this week, a White House spokesman justified the extra funds:
Nepal is fighting a Maoist rebellion, and Nepal is an example, again, of a
democracy, and the United States is committed to helping Nepal. As though
to underline the Nepalese security forces' need for more weaponry, the
Maoists launched an overnight attack on a security post in the west of the
country - an area in which the government has been claiming impressive
casualties recently.

There is no doubt that the Maoist insurgency is serious. It began in 1996
when Dr Baburam Bhattrai, a leftwing academic and political activist, went
underground to begin the armed struggle, only six years after a largely
peaceful mass movement had forced the late King Birendra to return democracy
to Nepal.

The restoration of democracy had been a moment of hope for one of the
world's poorest countries - a country in which education had been
deliberately withheld by the oligarchy on the grounds that it gave people
dangerous political ideas. It would be good to report that the advent of
democracy substantially improved the lot of the average voter, but it did
not. After a decade of looting and corruption by the elected politicians,
even the unpopular royal family was almost forgiven. When most of them were
murdered by the crown prince last June in an evening of unexplained carnage,
the popular grief was real.

The massacre had two consequences that bear on the present crisis: the
murdered king, Birendra, had refused to deploy the army against the Maoists.
He seems to have shared a widespread apprehension that the army was likely
to indulge in indiscriminate killings that would make the situation worse.
The king preferred to rely on the less well-equipped police and to keep the
door open for negotiations.

Birendra's brother, Gyanendra, who succeeded him on the throne, had no such
reservations. Shortly after the mourning period ended and the Maoists
launched an offensive, Gyanendra sent in the troops. The result has been a
staggering escalation in violence. Half of the 4,000 casualties in the
six-year insurgency have occurred in the last six months and the war is now
close enough to the capital for gunfire to be audible in the evenings.

Meanwhile, tourism has collapsed and Nepal's poverty is worse than ever. As
far as its democracy goes, such civil rights as there were have been
suspended, the newspapers are censored, hundreds of people have been
arrested and held without trial. The Maoists hold about a quarter of the
country, and in these areas things are little better: teachers have been
targeted, children pressganged as soldiers, suspected government informers
summarily executed.

Last month, the Maoists offered to resume negotiations with the prime
minister, Sher Bahadur Deuba. Mr Deuba was among those who used to favour
negotiations: in 1999, he chaired the so-called Consensus Seeking Committee,
a government-sanctioned group that tried to reach a negotiated agreement
with the Maoists. That committee, which was disbanded after a few months,
concluded that the insurgency was a political problem that had its roots in
Nepal's profoundly unequal society. Their final report urged the government
to negotiate.

Mr Deuba has changed his mind. He turned down last month's offer,
preferring, apparently, to rely on the promised $20m in US military aid. But
unless Nepal addresses the profound defects of its democracy, a military
solution is unlikely to bring any lasting peace.

The rebels are stronger than the government acknowledges, funded by a
compulsory tax that they collect from businesses and NGOs, not only in the
rural areas but also in Kathmandu, under the noses of the security forces.
Nepalis are shocked by the violence of the uprising and appalled by the idea
of a Maoist government that has no external support beyond the equally
desperate Naxalite rebels in north-eastern India. ButNepal's staggering
economic inequalities, the caste-based discrimination, the political
corruption and the arbitrary abuse of human rights by the security services
undermine the government's claim to the loyalty of the people.

Even before the recent escalation of the conflict, Amnesty International
challenged the security services' version of events, pointing out that the
Maoists that they claimed to have killed were often innocent civilians and
the alleged subversives whom they arrested frequently disappeared with no
semblance of due process. It's easier, in the short term, to label Nepal's
insurgents as terrorists and to send more guns than to address political
reform in a country that has been paralysed for a decade by the shortsighted
squabbling of its political class. Whether it will work is another question.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Important Public Health Issue

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James

The Onion | 4/17/2002

U.S. Children Getting Majority Of Antibiotics From McDonald's Meat

WASHINGTON, DC-According to a Department of Health and Human Services report
released Monday, McDonald's meat from antibiotics-injected livestock is now
the primary source of antibiotics for U.S. children, particularly for
uninsured youths from low-income households.

Unfortunately, some children still fall through the cracks in our
health-care system, but luckily, McDonald's is there to lend a helping
hand, Secretary of Health and Human Services Tommy Thompson said at a press
conference announcing the findings. So even if a child's family has no
health insurance and can't afford medicine, virtually anyone can afford a
delicious 99-cent Big Mac with pickles, cheese, and a heapin' helpin' of
[the antibiotic] quinupristin-dalfopristin.

In HHS tests, 82 percent of children who had not been properly inoculated
were still found to have significant levels of antibiotics in their
bloodstreams. The antibiotics, the tests concluded, were the result of
sustained intake of McDonald's meat.

Disadvantaged children tend to eat at McDonald's a lot, which is a good
thing, Thompson said. If you think about it, where else are these kids
going to get their fluoroquinolone?
Large-scale meat producers, Thompson noted, routinely add antibiotics to the
feed of healthy animals to prevent cross-infection in the crowded, cramped
quarters where livestock are typically raised. In the U.S., the average beef
steer receives eight times more antibiotics than its human counterpart.

When your daughter gets strep throat, head straight over to McDonald's and
prescribe her a delicious Quarter Pounder or nine-piece Chicken McNuggets,
Thompson said. She'll not only receive the amoxycillin she needs to get
better, but also a whole array of growth hormones proven to speed a child's
physical development.

And if your child prefers Burger King or Wendy's, he continued, that's
fine, too. Any of the big fast-food chains can get them healthy.

While all Americans benefit from the 25 million pounds of antibiotics fed to
chickens, pigs, and cows each year, children stand to gain the most, U.S.
Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) said.

Children weigh less than adults, so when they eat a hamburger, they get a
proportionally more potent dose of antibiotics, said Lugar, who is among
the Senate's strongest proponents of fast-food-based health care. These
antibiotics are vital in the treatment of such common childhood ailments as
sore throat, ear infection, and hoof rot.

According to Lugar, waiting in a crowded doctor's office may soon be a thing
of the past.
Every day, food scientists are discovering new antibiotics, growth
hormones, and other chemically engineered substances to inject into the
nation's beef supply, Lugar said. And with Americans working longer and
longer hours just to make ends meet, people can't afford to waste time
sitting around some waiting room until their name is called. Unlike a
doctor, our fast-food providers can deliver a full spectrum of antibiotics
in minutes-hot, fresh, and with a smile.

In conjunction with the Department of Health and Human Services, Burger King
will soon release a brochure, Happy And Healthy The Burger King Way, which
outlines a 14-day plan for the treatment of bacterial infections.

In the leaflet, a cartoon cow in a medical coat reminds parents to give
their infected children two daily doses of antibiotic-treated meat for 14
days. If the condition does not improve after 10 days, the parent or
guardian of the ailing child is instructed to contact a store manager.

If your child has a sinus infection, he or she can drop by before and after
school for a Double Cheeseburger 50cc Meal or a delicious Chicken
Tetracycline, Burger King spokeswoman Linda Jacobs said. As we're fond of
saying here at Burger King, 'This won't hurt a bite!'
Though representatives say they're pleased with the praise it has received,
the fast-food industry does not intend to rest on its laurels.

Repeated use of antibiotics will result in increased resistance to
antibiotics in new strains of bacteria, said Carl Pickney, lab researcher
for TriCon Global, the fast-food conglomerate that owns KFC, Taco Bell, and
Pizza Hut. That's why we need to encourage our meat suppliers to
continually raise the levels of antibiotics in their meat, developing newer,
stronger antibiotics to replace those that no longer work. We're making good
progress, but we've still got a whole lot of meat to modify.

© Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. 

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: Growing exports and falling incomes

2002-05-10 Thread Ian Murray

Jurriaan,

Happy to help out; it's part of what the list should be for

Ian

- Original Message -
From: Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:20 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:25848] Growing exports and falling incomes


 Thanks, Ian. That is the kind of economic information that is pertinent
to
 read.







Re: Re: Re: on the , axisofEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeevil.... (Richard Burton in Exorcist II)

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Hoover

Michael Pugliese wrote:
methinks you meant El Jefe Maximo Caudillo Fidel's

instead of just listing a bunch of books that you swear by, 
Louis Proyect

lists are near-perfect e-list semaphore speak...

all lists are necessarily incomplete, however, those critical of fidel are woefully so 
if they fail to include roy terrell's great piece 'but for a hanging curve ball' in 26 
july 1960 issue of sports illustrated...ny yankee manager casey stengel states that 
yankees would have signed fidel following 1954 tryout in ft. lauderdale despite fact 
that he threw hanging curve ball and then let him languish in minor leagues forever if 
they could have known that he'd become revolutionary leader...yogi berra, who caught 
fidel at his tryout, suggests that he could have helped fidel overcome problem of 
hanging curve ball in time...imagine, early 60s yanks could have had whitey ford (one 
of mickey mantle's drinking buddies), jim bouton (bit of revolutionary in his own 
right, see book entitled 'ball four') and al downing (great african-american pitcher 
for several years until he developed arm trouble), and fidel (what better team for him 
to have played for than yankees)...maybe if fidel ha!
d been on mound in ninth inning of seventh game of 1960 world (gotta love imperial 
bombast of u.s. major league championship name) series, he'd have struck bill 
mazeroski out rather than giving up home run to win title...

in sum, blame ny yankees for u.s. cuba 'problem'...michael hoover   




RE: Re: Re: Re: on the , axis ofEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeevil.... (Richard Burton in Exorcist II)

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James

in sum, blame ny yankees for u.s. cuba 'problem'...michael hoover   

who do we blame the Yankees on? 

go Cubs!

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




RE: Rebel without a clue

2002-05-10 Thread Tom Walker

Jim Devine asked:

is anyone able to summarize this character's alleged motive for his alleged
bombings?

Drive ya nuts trying to make sense of it. It did the kid.

It would seem to be a given that the fellow is unbalanced. The question is
_how_ unbalanced compared to the norm. I read his published note and it
reminded me all too much of run of the mill sophmoric essays. The note
referred centrally to conformity, which made me think of Paul Goodman's
Growing Up Absurd and, by extension of Robert Lindner's psychoanalytical
narratives. BTW, a copy of Goodman's book was found in Ted Kuczynski's cabin
in Montana, or where ever it was.

(BTW, his roommate in college is named Jim Devine -- just like the bent
dermatologist here in L.A.)

There's also an official with Unison in Glasgow named Jim Devine.

Tom Walker
604 255 4812




hanging curve ball

2002-05-10 Thread Tom Walker

in sum, blame ny yankees for u.s. cuba 'problem'...michael hoover   

That should be ny yanquis, no?


Tom Walker
604 255 4812




Re: RE: Rebel without a clue

2002-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect

Jim Devine asked:

is anyone able to summarize this character's alleged motive for his alleged
bombings?

Drive ya nuts trying to make sense of it. It did the kid.


Tom Walker
604 255 4812

I have tried to stick to the agenda of political economy, broadly speaking,
since my return to PEN-L. This question, however, does prompt me to suggest
a look at my article Movies and Madness which showed up on Marxmail
recently, plus the addendum on the movie Snake Pit.

http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/culture/madness.htm

http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/culture/snakepit.htm

It was inspired by discussion around A Beautiful Mind which received the
Best Movie award right around the time I was reading Madness on the Couch
by Edward Dolnick. This is a disturbing account of how Freudian
psychoanalysis was used to treat schizophrenia, autism and
obsessive-compulsive disorder prior to the discovery that such mental
illnesses were organic in nature and reacted best to medication rather than
the talking cure.

I think we have to put to rest the notion that severe mental illness is
caused by stress, family dysfunction, etc. Autism, schizophrenia and OCD
are all as much an expression of a systemic organic failure as are
Parkinsons, epilepsy or Alzheimers. You might as well use talk therapy on
somebody with Alzheimers as with schizophrenia.

Louis Proyect
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Re: Re: Re: Re: on the , axis ofEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeevil.... (Richard Burton in Exorcist II)

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Perelman

The Yankees were always the team of big money, big capital.
-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




on the , axis ofEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeevil.... (

2002-05-10 Thread Justin Schwartz


This just in: Whire House Spokeperson Ari Fleischer has announced that the 
Bush administration has issued an amended version of its Axis of Evil, which 
now includes not only the original list (Iraq, North Korea, Iran), and the 
more recent additions of Cuba and Libya, but also Berkeley, Calif., Madison, 
Wisc., Ann Arbor, Mich., and Cambridge, Mass. They're not really part of 
America anyway, Fliescher explained, and they're filled with communists, 
terrorists, and students from Arab countries. Asked why the White House 
ommitted New Haven, Conn., from the list, Fleischer explained that adding 
the location of Yale University to the target list would harm annual giving.

jks

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pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Ian Murray

[who said it?]

...confusion forces practical economists to explain the determination of
interest by opportunity cost reasoning - a particular rate of interest
being set by the 'pure' rate yielded by the riskless government bonds,
with inflation, risk, and administrative cost premia added. But there is
no watertight justification for the perpetual existence of this 'pure'
rate. Interest exists because it is there; it is still held up by its own
theoretical bootstraps. The failure of mainstream economics to explain
adequately the existence of interest betrays the fact that it is merely a
theoretical concept with no true basis in reality. It is a figment of our
collective imaginations.




Re: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Gil Skillman

It sounds like Keynes, except he would have criticized (neo)classical 
economics rather than mainstream economists; the latter phrasing sounds 
more recent.  For what it's worth, mainstream theory suggests another 
possible explanation for positive interest rates besides time (and possibly 
risk) preference, although it is not one that is typically 
emphasized:  interest represents a scarcity rent for capital.  This latter 
explanation is both plausible and consistent with the now much-reinforced 
empirical finding of interest-inelastic savings.  Gil



[who said it?]

...confusion forces practical economists to explain the determination of
interest by opportunity cost reasoning - a particular rate of interest
being set by the 'pure' rate yielded by the riskless government bonds,
with inflation, risk, and administrative cost premia added. But there is
no watertight justification for the perpetual existence of this 'pure'
rate. Interest exists because it is there; it is still held up by its own
theoretical bootstraps. The failure of mainstream economics to explain
adequately the existence of interest betrays the fact that it is merely a
theoretical concept with no true basis in reality. It is a figment of our
collective imaginations.




Re: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Eugene Coyle

I think I said that one day after drinking eight cups of tea.

Gene

Ian Murray wrote:

 [who said it?]

 ...confusion forces practical economists to explain the determination of
 interest by opportunity cost reasoning - a particular rate of interest
 being set by the 'pure' rate yielded by the riskless government bonds,
 with inflation, risk, and administrative cost premia added. But there is
 no watertight justification for the perpetual existence of this 'pure'
 rate. Interest exists because it is there; it is still held up by its own
 theoretical bootstraps. The failure of mainstream economics to explain
 adequately the existence of interest betrays the fact that it is merely a
 theoretical concept with no true basis in reality. It is a figment of our
 collective imaginations.




Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: on the , axis ofEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeevil.... (Richard Burton in Exorcist II)

2002-05-10 Thread Eugene Coyle

When Joe Dimaggio died a couple of years ago I wrote down an
appreciation of him which talked of the Yankees the way Michael sees
it.  I was a Brooklyn Dodger fan.  Here are a few sentences:

there was an element of class in the choice of the Dodgers vs.
the Yankees.  The Bums were working class, the Yankees the ruling class.


New York was the Empire State, and as an Irish kid,
a very aware Irish kid, I hated empires, coming from a colonized
people.  I grew up hating Churchill, (and with lots of good reasons, as
it turns out.  I hope Pinochet gets extradicted.)
..
I hated DiMaggio.  He embodied the class hatred, my Irish hatred of
empires, and, just simple fierce childhood loyalty to your team.
But he was the best ballplayer of all.

Gene





Michael Perelman wrote:

 The Yankees were always the team of big money, big capital.
 --
 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929

 Tel. 530-898-5321
 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




MaxSpeak, You Listen

2002-05-10 Thread Max Sawicky

Open for business.

*
Max B. Sawicky

  http://www.MaxSpeak.Org
BLOG:  http://www.MaxSpeak.Org/gm/index.htm 




RE: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Max Sawicky

sounds like Joan Robinson.


 
 
 [who said it?]
 
 ...confusion forces practical economists to explain the determination of
 interest by opportunity cost reasoning - a particular rate of interest
 being set by the 'pure' rate yielded by the riskless government bonds,
 with inflation, risk, and administrative cost premia added. But there is
 no watertight justification for the perpetual existence of this 'pure'
 rate. Interest exists because it is there; it is still held up by its own
 theoretical bootstraps. The failure of mainstream economics to explain
 adequately the existence of interest betrays the fact that it is merely a
 theoretical concept with no true basis in reality. It is a figment of our
 collective imaginations.
 




P.S.

2002-05-10 Thread Gil Skillman

Sorry, that previous answer to Ian's pop quiz was too truncated.  I should 
have said that mainstream theory suggests another possible explanation for 
positive interest rates that, like explanations based on time or risk 
preferences, is consistent with the operation of competitive and complete 
markets.  Of course nothing ensures that the relevant markets in which 
interest rates arise have these nice properties.  Leaving that 
restriction aside, mainstream theory could adduce explanations based on 
market power (e.g., collusive rate-setting) or contractual imperfections 
(e.g., efficiency interest rates, as in the Stiglitz/Weiss model of 
credit rationing).  Gil


It sounds like Keynes, except he would have criticized (neo)classical 
economics rather than mainstream economists; the latter phrasing sounds 
more recent.  For what it's worth, mainstream theory suggests another 
possible explanation for positive interest rates besides time (and 
possibly risk) preference, although it is not one that is typically 
emphasized:  interest represents a scarcity rent for capital.  This latter 
explanation is both plausible and consistent with the now much-reinforced 
empirical finding of interest-inelastic savings.  Gil



[who said it?]

...confusion forces practical economists to explain the determination of
interest by opportunity cost reasoning - a particular rate of interest
being set by the 'pure' rate yielded by the riskless government bonds,
with inflation, risk, and administrative cost premia added. But there is
no watertight justification for the perpetual existence of this 'pure'
rate. Interest exists because it is there; it is still held up by its own
theoretical bootstraps. The failure of mainstream economics to explain
adequately the existence of interest betrays the fact that it is merely a
theoretical concept with no true basis in reality. It is a figment of our
collective imaginations.





Re: MaxSpeak, You Listen

2002-05-10 Thread Sabri Oncu

Looks good Max. Congratulations. 

Best,

Sabri




RE: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Forstater, Mathew

Hicks?

-Original Message-
From: Ian Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEN-L:25863] pop quiz time

[who said it?]

...confusion forces practical economists to explain the determination
of
interest by opportunity cost reasoning - a particular rate of interest
being set by the 'pure' rate yielded by the riskless government bonds,
with inflation, risk, and administrative cost premia added. But there is
no watertight justification for the perpetual existence of this 'pure'
rate. Interest exists because it is there; it is still held up by its
own
theoretical bootstraps. The failure of mainstream economics to explain
adequately the existence of interest betrays the fact that it is merely
a
theoretical concept with no true basis in reality. It is a figment of
our
collective imaginations.




Re: RE: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Ian Murray

Envelope says it's Paul Mills and John R Presley from Islamic Finance:
Theory and Practice; St Martins Press, 1999, p. 14.

Mills is/was at HM Treasury UK
Presley is/was Econ. Prof. Univ. of Loughborough and Chief Economic
Adviser The Saudi British Bank.

As I noted after 9-11 the issue of usury deeply divides the elites and
the 'middle' and working classes in the ME, esp. in SA since the inroads
made by capitalist financial practices post WWII.

The critique seems readily appropriable and capable of deepening in the
service of an elaboration of insitutional alternatives to usury

Ian




Re: The ECONOMIST on U.S. productivity growth.

2002-05-10 Thread miychi
On 2002.05.11 02:08 AM, "Devine, James" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [Interestingly, the ECONOMIST doesn't mention the role of the over 4%
 average annual increase in the nominal major-currencies trade-weighted value
 of the dollar -- or over 5% in real terms -- during the period 1996 to 2001.
 This is a key factor that would hurt profits despite rising productivity.]
 
 May 11, 2002
 
 FINANCE  ECONOMICS
 To these, the spoils
 
 NOT only has America's productivity wonder survived its first recession; it
 has positively thrived. Output per man-hour in the non-farm business sector
 rose at an annual rate of 8.6% in the first quarter of this year, its
 fastest growth in 19 years. Quarterly figures are volatile, yet the
 year-on-year growth in productivity was also impressive, at 4.2%. This bodes
 well for America's future economic growth--but not necessarily for company
 profits, or for share prices.
 
 Commentators cheered the latest evidence of rapid productivity gains, hoping
 that it might promise fatter profits ahead. That America's productivity
 continued to rise last year, in contrast to previous recessions, seems to
 confirm that an increase has taken place in trend productivity growth.
 Still, the latest numbers overstate the underlying trend.
 
 First, the growth in output, and hence productivity, was inflated in the
 first quarter by a big swing in inventories. Productivity often surges in
 the first year of a recovery after recession, as firms produce more without
 needing to hire extra workers. Productivity rose by 4-5% in the first year
 following both the 1981-82 and the 1990-91 recessions. Firms have actually
 continued to cut jobs this year, lifting the unemployment rate in April to
 an eight-year high of 6%. Today's best guess is that trend productivity
 growth is around 2-2.5%. That is less than the 3-4% claimed at the height of
 the new-economy bubble; but still well above the 1.4% average over the two
 decades to 1995.
 
 A second, more fundamental quibble is that, although profits will certainly
 rebound this year, as firms continue to trim their costs and revenues rise,
 in the longer term faster productivity growth does not automatically mean
 faster profits growth. A new study by Stephen King, chief economist at the
 HSBC bank, concludes that workers and consumers have received the lion's
 share of the productivity gains of therevolution in information technology
 (IT). Companies have received relatively little reward for their
 risk-taking.
 
 In the late 1990s it was widely assumed that faster productivity growth
 would mean higher profits (so justifying higher share prices). Over the
 previous half-century a strong positive relationship had indeed held between
 productivity and profits. In the 1990s that relationship broke down. Despite
 a surge in productivity, national-accounts profits (as opposed to profits
 reported by companies, a less accurate measure) fell between 1997 and 2000,
 even before the economy dipped into recession (see chart). At the end of
 2000 the profits of America's non-financial firms were no higher in real
 terms than in 1994, implying a big fall in their share of GDP.
 
 Mr King argues that workers (who are, naturally, also consumers) were
 virtually the sole beneficiaries of the new economy, in the shape of faster
 real wage growth. This was partly thanks to a fall in the prices of IT goods
 that they bought. More important, the same IT that spurred productivity also
 increased competition more widely across industries, from airlines and
 banking to insurance and cars, squeezing prices and profits. Information
 technologyreduces barriers to entry, and makes it easier for consumers to
 compare prices.
 
 What is more, globalisation, itself spurred by information technology, has
 further trimmed the pricing power of firms. HSBC finds that, in most
 economies, the correlation between domestic inflation and domestic
 unit-labour costs has declined over the past 40 years; the correlation
 between domestic inflation and average OECD inflation has risen. In most
 countries in the 1990s domestic inflation was more closely correlated with
 OECD inflation than it was with domestic costs.
 
 The dismal performance of profits should not surprise. As the IMF's World
 Economic Outlook last October pointed out, productivity gains from previous
 technological revolutions, from railways and textiles to electricity and the
 car, have gone largely to consumers. Each time, a decline in the prices of
 goods and services has given a big boost to real incomes. Consumers gained
 from cheaper travel or clothes, but profits disappointed. The difference
 this time is that new technology has increased competition and squeezed
 profit margins across the whole economy.
 
 None of this lessens the overall benefit of faster productivity growth. But
 it does lead to some interesting conclusions:
 
 * The profit expectations built into share prices are unrealistic. Even if
 productivity 

Re: RE: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Sabri Oncu

Ian writes:

 Envelope says it's Paul Mills and John R Presley
 from Islamic Finance:Theory and Practice; St Martins
 Press, 1999, p. 14.

Damn. I am wrong again. I thought it was Gene who said that and
was planning to ask him whether that tea he drank was Long Island
Ice Tea.

Best,

Sabri




Re: Re: RE: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Perelman

Presley is also the world's expert on the economics of Dennis Robertson.

Ian Murray wrote:

 Envelope says it's Paul Mills and John R Presley from Islamic Finance:
 Theory and Practice; St Martins Press, 1999, p. 14.

 Mills is/was at HM Treasury UK
 Presley is/was Econ. Prof. Univ. of Loughborough and Chief Economic
 Adviser The Saudi British Bank.

 As I noted after 9-11 the issue of usury deeply divides the elites and
 the 'middle' and working classes in the ME, esp. in SA since the inroads
 made by capitalist financial practices post WWII.

 The critique seems readily appropriable and capable of deepening in the
 service of an elaboration of insitutional alternatives to usury

 Ian

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RE: P.S.

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James

Gil writes:
For what it's worth, mainstream theory suggests another possible
explanation for positive interest rates besides time (and possibly risk)
preference, although it is not one that is typically emphasized:  interest
represents a scarcity rent for capital.  This latter explanation is both
plausible and consistent with the now much-reinforced empirical finding of
interest-inelastic savings.  Gil

This may be a much-reinforced empirical finding, it is not treated as such
by the intermediate macro textbooks, at least not all of them. There's one I
read -- was it Abel  Bernanke? -- that (1) said that saving is
interest-inelastic and then (2) consistently drew the supply of saving as
upward-sloping, matching the downward slope of the demand for saving curve
(i.e., investment demand). They did the same for the supply of labor[power]
curve.

BTW, the inelastic saving supply curve fits with Keynes' idea that interest
and profits represent quasi-rents, i.e., temporary scarcity rents. Of
course, that doesn't quite explain why savings never lose their scarcity
value, so that the interest rate zooms to zero. 

He adds: I should have said that mainstream theory suggests another
possible explanation for positive interest rates that, like explanations
based on time or risk preferences, is consistent with the operation of
competitive and complete markets.  Of course nothing ensures that the
relevant markets in which interest rates arise have these nice properties.
Leaving that restriction aside, mainstream theory could adduce explanations
based on market power (e.g., collusive rate-setting) or contractual
imperfections (e.g., efficiency interest rates, as in the Stiglitz/Weiss
model of credit rationing).

I don't think that these latter explanations that orthodox theory could
adduce help us with the question at hand. They are microeconomic
explanations, that don't explain the general (macro) rate of interest,
perhaps as measured by the yield on a minimum-risk corporate bond (or by an
average of empirically-existing interest rates). Rather, they explain
differences of interest rates between different lenders or markets. 

If I understand Marx's theory correctly, it explains the general interest
rate within the framework of the supply of and demand for loanable funds,
though of course it adds some twists by putting this market into a societal
context (while not assuming full employment as the original theories of
loanable funds did). Interest is one piece of the surplus-value, so that if
workers aren't dominated in society and thus exploited, there is no
production available with which to pay interest. The concept of interest
arises because of the division of labor that has developed historically
between industrial capital and money-lending (banking) capital. The
industrial capitalists are willing to share some of the surplus-value that
they've pumped from their workers with the banking capitalists because the
latter provide the service of financial intermediation. (Marx saw that
service as unproductive, but that's another issue, one I won't touch.) In
this view, the long-run equilibrium interest rate -- a.k.a. the natural
rate of interest of Wicksell _et al_ -- would depend on the relative
institutional power of industrial capital and banking capital and would thus
change between historical eras. Supply and demand would lead to fluctuations
about this equilibrium, as in the business cycle (see vol. III of CAPITAL).

BTW, I don't see any significant contradiction between Marx's theory and
that of Keynes. The latter can be used to enrich the details of the former,
while the former provides a more sophisticated understanding of the societal
context.

JD




USTR Warns India On Trips Compliance Issues

2002-05-10 Thread Ulhas Joglekar

The Financial Express

Wednesday, May 08, 2002

USTR Warns India On Trips Compliance Issues

Sanjay Sardana

New Delhi, May 7:  The US Trade Representative (USTR) has flayed India for
being less protective on intellectual property rights (IPR) and for having
overly broad compulsory license provision. USTR report has also warned
India of strict action if it fails to resolve various issues relating to
Trade-related Intellectual Property Rights (Trips).
India has already been put on the priority watch list in USTR '2002 special
301 report.'
USTR will continue to consult with the Indian government to resolve the
outstanding Trips compliance concerns. But, if these consultations do not
prove constructive, we will consider all other options available, including
WTO dispute settlement, to resolve them, the report says.
Interestingly, USTR is under attack within the US itself. Its agenda is not
easily distinguishable from the agenda of the brand pharmaceutical
 industry, according to Tom Allen, member of the US House of
Representatives. In his address to the International Generic Pharmaceutical
Association last month, he said, USTR has sided with the brand-drug
manufacturers, and against the generic industry associations, European
Union, developing countries and consumer activists.
Mr Allen said the companies of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers
Association (PhRMA) had tilted the system in two way - first by spending
more than $200 million in the last four years on lobbying, campaign
contributions and political ads.
The report released last week says that India's patent system and protection
of exclusive test data appear far from compliant with its obligations under
the Trips agreement. The term of protection for pharmaceutical process
patents is only seven years. India fails to provide patent protection for
pharmaceutical and agricultural chemical products and the compulsory
licensing system seems overly broad.
On China front, though the country has been put under the 'priority foreign
country' status the US has raised concerns with regard to high-level of
piracy and counterfeiting, and has asked for a more effective and
coordinated action.
Apart from India, Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Egypt, European Union,
Hungary, Indonesia, Philippines, Russia, Taiwan and Uruguay have also been
put under the 'priority watch list' by USTR.
As far as China is concerned, the US has also complained that certain US
companies have experienced difficulties in obtaining administrative
protection for their products. The US will continue to closely monitor China
's implementation of its WTO commitments.
The reports says, India's over-generous opposition procedures often allow
competitors to delay patent issuance until the patent has expired, resulting
in de-facto removal of patent protection.
It has expressed fears that pending legislation meant to rectify India's
Trips deficiencies may fall short. The inadequate patent protection
currently available is difficult for innovators to obtain.
India's patent office has a huge backlog of 30,000 patent applications and
severe shortage of patent examiners. In addition, India's copyright law,
which is generally consistent with international standards, was weakened by
amendments, enacted in 2000, that undermine protection for computer
programmes. Enforcement against piracy remains a growing concern for the US
copyright industries, especially given the fact that pirated imports are
entering the market from Southeast Asia and that there is growing Internet
piracy.
While announcing the results of the 2002 Special 301 review, Ambassador
Robert B Zoellick has reiterated that USTR would not change the present
approach to health-related intellectual property issues.


MNCs  Local Pharma Firms Slug It Out On Patents Bill
Our Corporate Bureau

The deep divide between multinational and domestic pharma companies over
certain provisions relating to the amendments in the Second Patents Bill
came to the fore at a brainstorming session on Impact of Patents Bill on
Healthcare. Parliament is expected to debate the Second Patents Bill on
Wednesday.
Indian Drug Manufacturers Association (IDMA), membership of which is
dominated by domestic small and medium companies, is rooting for broadening
the scope of compulsory licensing provisions to include widespread diseases
as the current provisions are not adequate.
On the other hand, the MNCs-backed Organisation of Pharmaceutical
Manufacturers of India says that the introduction of broad-based compulsory
licensing would only help the copier and not the patient.
At the session, organised by Associated Chambers of Commerce and Industry of
India (Assocham), it was basically IDMA and Indian Pharmaceutical Alliance
(IPA) lined up against the Organisation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers and
officials of MNCs like Pfizer and Eli Lilly.
The MNCs have been trying to allay fears that in the post-patent regime,
there was likely to be a sharp rise in the prices of 

Re: P.S.

2002-05-10 Thread Sabri Oncu

Gill writes:

 I should have said that mainstream theory
 suggests another possible explanation for
 positive interest rates that, like explanations
 based on time or risk preferences, is consistent
 with the operation of competitive and complete
 markets.

Here is a question:

What is the theoretical justification of negative (real) interest
rates we recently have observed in Japan?

Sabri




Re: Re: P.S.

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Perelman


it is safer holding a government bond than putting money in the bank, so
people pay a premium for the bonds.  I don't know why they don't keep the
cash instead.

On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 08:32:53PM -0700, Sabri Oncu wrote:
 Gill writes:
 
  I should have said that mainstream theory
  suggests another possible explanation for
  positive interest rates that, like explanations
  based on time or risk preferences, is consistent
  with the operation of competitive and complete
  markets.
 
 Here is a question:
 
 What is the theoretical justification of negative (real) interest
 rates we recently have observed in Japan?
 
 Sabri
 

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