Spam I got

2004-07-23 Thread Charles Brown
Subj: Bush large shareholder - New USA Oil Find


USA SMALL CAP REVIEW


DMT Energy, Inc. (DMTY)

RECORD SETTING HIGH PREDICTED THIS WEEK!!

Current Price @ Close July 22 $0.55
7-Day Price Target $1.70
30-Day Price Target $2.30
12-Month Target $3.75
Shares Outs 25.0 M
Float  3.8 M


We hear News expected about a large find due out Monday
The outlook for North American oil and gas exploration is extremely positive
from an investment perspective, with increasing US energy demands projected
over the near and long term sustaining major gains for oil and gas
producers. The recent California energy crisis, the looming United States
energy crunch (the most serious domestic energy situation since the 1970's),
and the increasingly unstable international environment for oil and natural
gas exploration and production, have placed a renewed emphasis on domestic
energy exploration. While crude oil and natural gas prices on the spot
market are likely to come off of their current highs, the immediate term
price outlook remains favorable, and long term price projections forecast
significant increases. Even as government and academia invest billions in
the search for alternative sources of energy, the demand for natural gas and
oil continues to grow and is expected to expand exponentially over the next
twenty years. According to the US Energy Information Administration (EIA)
the US demand for refined petroleum products will grow by over 35 percent in
the next two decades, increasing from 18.0 million barrels per day in 1996
to over 24.6 million barrels per day by 2020, a 35% increase. The growth of
domestic demand for natural gas, driven by expanding natural gas-fired
electric generation plants, will be even more pronounced skyrocketing from
current levels of roughly 23 trillion cubic feet (Tcf) to 32-37 Tcf by 2020.
As the recent energy crisis in California has demonstrated, the US natural
gas and energy supply will prove increasingly tenuous without additional and
vigorous exploration and production efforts are undertaken. At the same
time, the international situations in Iraq and Venezuela have show the
vulnerability of US petroleum stocks and highlighted the urgent need for
increased domestic production. The recent National Energy Policy of
President Bush and Vice President Cheney has called for dramatically
increased production of domestic oil and natural gas resources to meet this
expanding domestic energy demand.

For the petroleum industry, this renewed impetus on domestic exploration and
production has led to several new developments that improve the likelihood
of exploration success and the location of new reserves. Many of the
technologies associated with oil and gas exploration have been significantly
enhanced over the last several years, and the refinement of techniques such
as three dimensional seismic imaging have made oil exploration far more
efficient, increasing the accuracy of modeling and decreasing the chances of
missing oil. The second way that oil exploration is becoming more efficient
is the increased practice of reexamining properties that were no longer
thought to be profitable. Many properties through the 1970's were extracted
only using primary production techniques and then prematurely abandoned when
production became more expensive and problematic, leaving significant
quantities of oil and natural gas. It has been estimated that many of these
early producing fields can contain as much as 50-60% of recoverable
production. Smaller oil exploration and production companies, such as
Newfield Exploration Oil (NYSE: NFX) and Houston Exploration Company (NYSE:
THX) have enjoyed huge successes through employing strategies that focus on
reworking overlooked and bypassed production properties.

With a diversified portfolio of balanced oil  gas properties, an
exploration and production strategy that emphasized the importance of
developing and exploiting overlooked and bypassed reserves with new
technologies and innovative approaches, and a seasoned management team and
advisory board with over 150 years of collective petroleum industry
experience, DMT Energy, Inc. is well positioned to benefit from new oil and
gas production initiatives. DMT Energy has developed an impressive portfolio
of oil and gas properties in Alberta and British Columbia, and Northern
Canada that have B potential for successful production over the
near-to-intermediate term period with limited capital investment.

The Company is capitalizing on both of the major trends in domestic oil and
gas EP efforts, carefully selecting and screening properties for maximum
potential of overlooked and bypassed production opportunities in oil
producing area, and utilizing 3-D seismic and other advanced exploration
techniques, including proprietary reservoir modeling techniques developed by
EVP Don Hryhor, to mitigate risks. The Company is within months of beginning
production efforts on its Acadia and Wainwright properties, where B oil 
gas 

Re: Spam fraud moves up a notch

2004-07-12 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Not to be confused with Paul Volcker, former chairman of
the Fed Board of Govs.  -- mbs


Subject: Spam fraud moves up a notch

Usually I get requests from the families of disgraced dictators.  Now look
who writes
me.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Assistance from you

Office of the Chairman
The Independent Committee of Eminent Persons
20 rue de Candolle (3rd Floor), 1205 Geneva, Switzerland
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.icep-iaep.org : web

My name is Paul A. Volker . . .


Spam fraud moves up a notch

2004-07-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Usually I get requests from the families of disgraced dictators.  Now look who writes
me.

- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 17:26:31 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Assistance from you

Office of the Chairman
The Independent Committee of Eminent Persons
20 rue de Candolle (3rd Floor), 1205 Geneva, Switzerland
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.icep-iaep.org : web



My name is Paul A. Volker, Chairman Independent Committee of Eminent Persons (ICEP), 
Switzerland. ICEP is charged with the responsibility of finding bank accounts in 
Switzerland belonging to non-Swiss indigenes, which have remained dormant since World 
War II.

It may interest you to know that in July of 1997, the Swiss Banker's Association 
published a list of dormant accounts originally opened by non-Swiss citizens. These 
accounts had been dormant since the end of World War II (May 9, 1945). Most belonged 
to Holocaust victims.

The continuing efforts of the Independent Committee of Eminent Persons (ICEP) have 
since resulted in the discovery of additional dormant accounts - 54,000 in December, 
1999.

The published lists contain all types of dormant accounts, including interest-bearing 
savings accounts, securities accounts, safe deposit boxes, custody accounts, and 
non-interest-bearing transaction accounts. Numbered accounts are also included. 
Interest is paid on accounts that were interest bearing when established.

The Claims Resolution Tribunal (CRT) handles processing of all claims on accounts due 
non-Swiss citizens. A dormant account of ORDNER ADELE with a credit balance of 
35,000,000 US dollar plus accumulated interest was discovered by me. The beneficiary 
was murdered during the holocaust era, leaving no WILL and no possible records for 
trace of heirs.

The Claims Resolution Tribunal has been mandated to report all unclaimed funds for 
permanent closure of accounts and transfer of existing credit balance into the 
treasury of Switzerland government as provided by the law for management of assets of 
deceased beneficiaries who died interstate (living no wills).

Being a top executive at ICEP, I have all secret details and necessary contacts for 
claim of the funds without any hitch. The funds will be banked in an offshore bank 
which will be a tax free, safe haven for funds and we can share the funds and use in 
investment of our choice.

Due to the sensitive nature of my job, I need a foreigner to HELP claim the funds. All 
that is required is for you to provide me with your details for processing of the 
necessary legal and administrative claim documents for transfer of the funds to you.

Kindly provide me with your full name, address, and telephone/fax. I will pay all 
required fees to ensure that the fund is transferred to a secure, numbered account in 
your name in an offshore bank, of which you will be capable of accessing the funds 
gradually and transferring to your country and other banks of choice in the world. My 
share will be 60 percent and your share is 40 per cent of the total amount. THERE IS 
NO RISK INVOLVED.

You can find additional information about unclaimed funds through the internet at the 
following websites:

www.swissbankclaims.com

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9902/09/germany.holocaust/

www.avotaynu.com

www.icheic.org

www.livingheirs.com

www.wiesenthal.com


The Holocaust Claims Processing Office has put funds in Escrow awaiting submission of 
valid claims for necessary disbursement.

I find myself privileged to have this information and this may be a great opportunity 
for a lifetime of success without risks.

Due to security reasons, reply to me via email only. You may reply to me securely on 
the following email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you for your prompt response.

Paul A. Volker.

- End forwarded message -

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: Spam fraud moves up a notch

2004-07-11 Thread Craven, Jim
Michael P wrote: 

Usually I get requests from the families of disgraced dictators.  Now
look who writes me.


Office of the Chairman
The Independent Committee of Eminent Persons
20 rue de Candolle (3rd Floor), 1205 Geneva, Switzerland
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.icep-iaep.org : web



My name is Paul A. Volker, Chairman Independent Committee of Eminent
Persons (ICEP), Switzerland. ICEP is charged with the responsibility of
finding bank accounts in Switzerland belonging to non-Swiss indigenes,
which have remained dormant since World War II.

Jim C:
I get the same--and also usually from families of disgraced dictators.
But I didn't get this one from Volker, mine came from another source:


My name is Mr Hanks  Moss a member of Independent Committee of Eminent
Persons (ICEP), Switzerland. ICEP is charged with the responsibility of
finding bank accounts in Switzerland belonging to non-Swiss indigenes,
which have remained dormant since World War II.

It may interest you to know that in July of 1997, the Swiss Banker's
Association published a list of dormant accounts originally opened by
non-Swiss citizens. These accounts had been dormant since the end of
World War II (May 9, 1945). Most belonged to Holocaust victims.

The continuing efforts of the Independent Committee of Eminent Persons
(ICEP) have since resulted in the discovery of additional dormant
accounts - 54,000 in December, 1999.The published lists contain all
types of dormant accounts, including 
interest-bearing savings accounts, securities accounts, safe deposit
boxes, custody accounts, and non-interest-bearing transaction accounts.
Numbered accounts are also included. Interest is paid on accounts that
were interest bearing when established.

The Claims Resolution Tribunal (CRT) handles processing of all claims on
accounts due non-Swiss citizens. A dormant account of ORDNER ADELE with
a credit balance of 45,000,000 US dollar plus  accumulated interest was
discovered by me. The beneficiary was murdered during the holocaust era,
leaving no WILL and no possible records for trace of heirs. The Claims
Resolution Tribunal has been mandated to report all unclaimed funds for
permanent closure of accounts and transfer of existing credit balance
into the treasury of Switzerland government as provided by the law for
management of assets of deceased beneficiaries who died 
interstate (living no wills).

Being a top executive at ICEP, I have all secret details and necessary
contacts for claim of the funds without any hitch. The funds will be
banked in the Cayman Island, being a tax free, safe haven for funds and
we can share the funds and use in investment of our choice.Due to the
sensitive nature of my job, I need a foreigner to HELP claim the funds.
All that is required is for you to provide me with your details for
processing of the necessary legal and administrative claim  documents
for transfer of the funds to you.

Kindly provide me with your full name, address, and telephone/fax. I
will pay all required fees to ensure that the fund is transferred to a
secure, numbered account in your name in the Cayman Island, of which you
will be capable of accessing the funds gradually and transferring to
your country and other banks of choice in the world. My share will be 60
percent and your share is 40 per cent of the total amount. THERE IS NO 
RISK INVOLVED.

You can find additional information about unclaimed funds through the 
internet at the following websites:
www.swissbankclaims.com
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9902/09/germany.holocaust/

www.avotaynu.com
www.icheic.org
www.livingheirs.com
www.wiesenthal.com

The Holocaust Claims Processing Office has put funds in Escrow awaiting
submission of valid claims for necessary disbursement.I find myself
priviledged to have this information and this may be a great opportunity
for a life time of success without risks.Due to security reasons, reply
to my via email only. You may reply to me securely on the following
email,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Thank you for your prompt response.
Mr  Hanks  Moss



Re: Spam fraud moves up a notch

2004-07-11 Thread sartesian
 The Claims
Resolution Tribunal has been mandated to report all unclaimed funds for
permanent closure of accounts and transfer of existing credit balance
into the treasury of Switzerland government as provided by the law for
management of assets of deceased beneficiaries who died
interstate (living no wills).
__

OK, I'll ask... isn't dying interstate a federal offense, and thus falls
under jurisdiction of Fumblers, Bumblers, and Idiots?


Re: Spam fraud moves up a notch

2004-07-11 Thread Craven, Jim
Should be reading dying intestate or without a will.

Jim C.


-Original Message-
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sartesian
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 6:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Spam fraud moves up a notch


 The Claims
Resolution Tribunal has been mandated to report all unclaimed funds for
permanent closure of accounts and transfer of existing credit balance
into the treasury of Switzerland government as provided by the law for
management of assets of deceased beneficiaries who died interstate
(living no wills). __

OK, I'll ask... isn't dying interstate a federal offense, and thus falls
under jurisdiction of Fumblers, Bumblers, and Idiots?



Re: Spam fraud moves up a notch

2004-07-11 Thread sartesian
New that Jim, it was just a joke...

interstate, Volker can't wait to send this guys my CC number
- Original Message -
From: Craven, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Spam fraud moves up a notch


Should be reading dying intestate or without a will.

Jim C.


-Original Message-
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sartesian
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 6:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Spam fraud moves up a notch


 The Claims
Resolution Tribunal has been mandated to report all unclaimed funds for
permanent closure of accounts and transfer of existing credit balance
into the treasury of Switzerland government as provided by the law for
management of assets of deceased beneficiaries who died interstate
(living no wills). __

OK, I'll ask... isn't dying interstate a federal offense, and thus falls
under jurisdiction of Fumblers, Bumblers, and Idiots?


spam

2004-06-24 Thread Devine, James
there's so much spam these days, it's like smog.
jd in LA



sudden loss of spam

2004-06-04 Thread Chris Burford
The amount of spam I get has fallen drastically in the last few weeks.
Is this a sign of further globalisation - the US government finally
moving in coalition with major monopoly capitalist bodies like
Microsoft, to hunt down the spammers? And the spammers have suddenly
got scared?

I am afraid I am grateful. It is a step towards the
global enforcement of global standards, and the capitalists are
unfortunately in control.

Chris Burford


Re: sudden loss of spam

2004-06-04 Thread ravi
Chris Burford wrote:
 The amount of spam I get has fallen drastically in the last few weeks.
 Is this a sign of further globalisation - the US government finally
 moving in coalition with major monopoly capitalist bodies like
 Microsoft, to hunt down the spammers? And the spammers have suddenly
 got scared?

 I am afraid I am grateful. It is a step towards the
 global enforcement of global standards, and the capitalists are
 unfortunately in control.


no need to look for conspiracies... my spam stays at usual healthy
levels of growth. i can forward you some of mine, if you wish: do you
prefer penis or breast enlargement? or both? ;-).

--ravi


Re: sudden loss of spam

2004-06-04 Thread Michael Perelman
Chris, I must be getting your spam, because my inflow has gone up.  I can forward it
to you if you want.


--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: sudden loss of spam

2004-06-04 Thread Carrol Cox
A few months ago ISU introduced a filter of some kind that reduced spam
flow radically. It's been creeping up since but hasn't yet reached the
earlier level.

Carrol


Re: sudden loss of spam

2004-06-04 Thread Chris Burford
Ah.

Chris
- Original Message -
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] sudden loss of spam


 Chris, I must be getting your spam, because my inflow has gone up.
I can forward it
 to you if you want.


 --
 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929

 Tel. 530-898-5321
 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu



Re: sudden loss of spam

2004-06-04 Thread Anthony D'Costa
I have a spam filter and all of the spam sit in a folder called junk
mail and every Sunday automatically they are deleted.  Works quite well
but some genuine mass mailings, such as news items, some pen-l postings
get directed to the junk-mail folder, while some disclosing that they are
the sons and daughters or widows of general so and so from Liberia,
Nigeria...still show up in my inbox.  I must say though the anatomical
ones have disappeared even from the junk folder.

cheers, anthony

xxx
Anthony P. D'Costa, Associate Professor
Comparative International Development
University of WashingtonCampus Box 358436
1900 Commerce Street
Tacoma, WA 98402, USA

Phone: (253) 692-4462
Fax :  (253) 692-5718
xxx

On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Michael Perelman wrote:

 Chris, I must be getting your spam, because my inflow has gone up.  I can forward it
 to you if you want.


 --
 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929

 Tel. 530-898-5321
 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu



Spam at a new level of evil

2004-03-01 Thread Michael Perelman
My uncle recently died.  He was a fine man.  Today, I got this letter, which appeals
to emotions over and above greed.


- Forwarded message from mike paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 10:24:28 -0500
From: mike paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Subject: ATTN: Perelman

Dear Perelman,


Compliments.

I am Barrister Mike Paul a solicitor and attorney at
law. I am the personal attorney to Mr.Mark Perelman a
national of your country, who used to work with shell
development company in Nigeria and as well a one time
secret agent in transfering of money overseas for
the Late head of state of Nigeria {Late Gen.SANI
ABACHA}.

Before his death On the 21st of April 1999 [ my
client, his wife And their three children were
involved in a car accident along sagbama express road
in which all occupants of the motor died}. My client
deposited  the sum of $10m in Inland Trust Securities
Company here in Nigeria for himself, with the hope of
transferring it to his country as soon as he is on
leave.

Since his death I have made several enquiries to your
embassy to locate any of my clients extended
relatives, this has also proved unsuccessful.After
these several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to
trace his last name over the Internet, to locate any
member of his family  hence I contacted you. I have
contacted you to assist in repartrating the money and
property left behind by my client before they get
confisicated or declared unserviceable by the Security
Company where this huge deposits were lodged.
Particularly, the Inland Trust Securities Company
where the deceased  had an account valued at about 10
million dollars has issued me a notice to provide the
next of kin or have the account confiscated within the
next 21  official working days.

Since I have been unsuccesfull in locating the the
relatives for over 2years now, I seek your consent to
present you as the next of kin of the deceased since
you have the same last name so that the proceeds of
this account valued at 10million dollars can be paid
to you and then you and I can  share the money.50% to
me and 50% to you.I have all necessary legal documents
that can be used to back up any claim we may make. All
I require is your honest cooperation to enable us see
this deal through. I guarantee that this will be
executed under a legitimate arrangement that will
protect you from any breach of the law. Please get in
touch with me by my private email
address:([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to enable us
discuss further.

Best regards,

Barrister Mike Paul
Tel:234-803-7027627











Get your own 800 number
Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more
http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag

- End forwarded message -

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


why is spam worse

2004-01-26 Thread Michael Perelman
I have never received so much spam.  Does the new law just encourage them?
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: why is spam worse

2004-01-26 Thread ravi
Michael Perelman wrote:
 I have never received so much spam.  Does the new law just encourage them?



are you extrapolating from today's email volume? if so, it could be that
you are being hit by a virus, not spam:

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

if the above is not the case, i still encourage list members to read the
above warning and take necessary precautions and steps to avoid the
above virus, which is spreading at a somewhat disturbing pace.

--ravi


the weirdest spam I ever got

2003-11-28 Thread Michael Pollak
[picnic.jpg] adulthood boggle botswana expressly polluted messy sanely
acquit playtime bostonian hoses hunted count billie thence exclusively
humorously hydrophilic breadwinners scalar plenteous bolstering scrapping
textural bogey thallophyte explores

bonze boll tensions pounces crossable albright potent pont popular
housekeepers cozy milkiness politic sapsucker bonnets crackle tamper
melanin accommodated mayoral achieve tan ad bernadine season crackling
creations

bismarck bona meritoriousness exorcise cowardice euphorbia bluefish
teaching term adjudicated imagen albanian seasonal plebian tactics
microsecond taxis admitted exertion tease activations aztecan countable
bootstrap sear bizet savage

[thank.gif]

mate exchequer aylesbury admixture ads idlers boot tags hundredfold
allstate branched baylor sears bhutan arnold adjacent existent courtrooms
agway bookstores midpoints cremation aces evenhandedness exhale excepts
playthings bogging advancement bottles arlen estimates ariadne talkers
tail cribbing hyphen house illumination hysteresis criticize american
boughs pragmatic eventide explosively crossly positron seamed acrylate

bop exhausting podge exempts mauve craved telepathic angelica secedes
hypothetic bolshevik sculpt abernathy tainted evidential scarce boatswain
eviller melodic then idealizations tensile eventful plebiscites adjutants
bourbon am


Re: the weirdest spam I ever got

2003-11-28 Thread dsquared
I think it's Billy Joel's working notes for the 1990s
update of We Didn't Start The Fire.

dd


On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:39:17 -0500, Michael Pollak
wrote:


 [picnic.jpg] adulthood boggle botswana expressly
 polluted messy sanely
 acquit playtime bostonian hoses hunted count billie
 thence exclusively
 humorously hydrophilic breadwinners scalar plenteous
 bolstering scrapping
 textural bogey thallophyte explores

 bonze boll tensions pounces crossable albright potent
 pont popular
 housekeepers cozy milkiness politic sapsucker bonnets
 crackle tamper
 melanin accommodated mayoral achieve tan ad bernadine
 season crackling
 creations

 bismarck bona meritoriousness exorcise cowardice
 euphorbia bluefish
 teaching term adjudicated imagen albanian seasonal
 plebian tactics
 microsecond taxis admitted exertion tease activations
 aztecan countable
 bootstrap sear bizet savage

 [thank.gif]

 mate exchequer aylesbury admixture ads idlers boot
tags
 hundredfold
 allstate branched baylor sears bhutan arnold adjacent
 existent courtrooms
 agway bookstores midpoints cremation aces
 evenhandedness exhale excepts
 playthings bogging advancement bottles arlen estimates
 ariadne talkers
 tail cribbing hyphen house illumination hysteresis
 criticize american
 boughs pragmatic eventide explosively crossly positron
 seamed acrylate

 bop exhausting podge exempts mauve craved telepathic
 angelica secedes
 hypothetic bolshevik sculpt abernathy tainted
 evidential scarce boatswain
 eviller melodic then idealizations tensile eventful
 plebiscites adjutants
 bourbon am


Re: the weirdest spam I ever got

2003-11-28 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Didn't remember that one. Pretty sharp.
http://uploader.wuerzburg.de/gym-fkg/schule/fachber/englisch/joel/songtext.h
tml

We Didn't Start the Fire is a song about blame and about victims. A song
about problems brought on by a society's lack of concern for the rights of
their fellow man. A song about a society's cultural icons. A song about a
country, the United States, and the roles it and its people have played in
world for the last 50 years. Billy Joel wrote this song to remind his peers
that yes, this country has problems, but that they weren't the cause. He
wanted to tell a society's younger generation that it's okay to want to fix
these problems, but no-one, especially those who did cause the problems,
could expect them to fix them all in day; they weren't the ones who gathered
the kindling; they weren't the ones who struck the match, they weren't the
ones who started the fire...

Source: http://www2.msstate.edu/~els4/

And then, for balance, there is also
http://www.geocities.com/~sdsundstrom/inever.html

J.




- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] the weirdest spam I ever got


 I think it's Billy Joel's working notes for the 1990s
 update of We Didn't Start The Fire.

 dd


 On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:39:17 -0500, Michael Pollak
 wrote:

 
  [picnic.jpg] adulthood boggle botswana expressly
  polluted messy sanely
  acquit playtime bostonian hoses hunted count billie
  thence exclusively
  humorously hydrophilic breadwinners scalar plenteous
  bolstering scrapping
  textural bogey thallophyte explores
 
  bonze boll tensions pounces crossable albright potent
  pont popular
  housekeepers cozy milkiness politic sapsucker bonnets
  crackle tamper
  melanin accommodated mayoral achieve tan ad bernadine
  season crackling
  creations
 
  bismarck bona meritoriousness exorcise cowardice
  euphorbia bluefish
  teaching term adjudicated imagen albanian seasonal
  plebian tactics
  microsecond taxis admitted exertion tease activations
  aztecan countable
  bootstrap sear bizet savage
 
  [thank.gif]
 
  mate exchequer aylesbury admixture ads idlers boot
 tags
  hundredfold
  allstate branched baylor sears bhutan arnold adjacent
  existent courtrooms
  agway bookstores midpoints cremation aces
  evenhandedness exhale excepts
  playthings bogging advancement bottles arlen estimates
  ariadne talkers
  tail cribbing hyphen house illumination hysteresis
  criticize american
  boughs pragmatic eventide explosively crossly positron
  seamed acrylate
 
  bop exhausting podge exempts mauve craved telepathic
  angelica secedes
  hypothetic bolshevik sculpt abernathy tainted
  evidential scarce boatswain
  eviller melodic then idealizations tensile eventful
  plebiscites adjutants
  bourbon am





spam spam spam spam spam

2003-07-04 Thread Eubulides
[no exit from the litigatory nuthouse]



Can it, Spam firm tells American software makers

George Wright
Saturday July 5, 2003
The Guardian

A legal battle for the right to incorporate the word spam in the trademark of software
companies has begun in the US.

Hormel Foods, the makers of Spam luncheon meat, are challenging a technology company 
in Seattle
which wants to trademark SpamArrest, the name of its software for email users.

Brian Cartmell, SpamArrest's chairman and chief executive, said: Spam is a common term
describing unsolicited commercial email.

Dozens of companies use the word spam in their legal and commercial names and no one 
confuses
any of us with the Hormel canned meat product.

He pointed out that Hormel itself says on its website that it does not object to the 
word being
used for unsolicited emails, provided that the product image is not associated with it.

But Hormel, which produces a wide range of ready meals and meat products, has 
challenged
SpamArrest's trademark application.

In an objection sent to the US Patent and Trademark Office it argues that it has built 
up
substantial goodwill and good reputation for the Spam brand name, which would be 
damaged by
SpamArrest's use of the term.

The Washington Post reports that the company said that SpamArrest's name so closely 
resembled
that of its luncheon meat that the public might become confused, or might even think 
that
Hormel endorses SpamArrest's products.

Derek Newman, the Seattle lawyer who who represents SpamArrest, said: Inexplicably, 
Hormel is
challenging anyone who uses the word spam as part of a trademark.

Spam has become ubiquitous throughout the world to describe unsolicited commercial 
email. No
company can claim trademark rights on a generic term. SpamArrest is both our corporate 
name and
an arbitrary trademark.

We are not claiming the right to use the generic term spam alone, but we will protect 
the name
of our company and the brand of our product.

Spam products began to appear on the shelves of US grocery shops as far back as 1937.

Last year it sold its six billionth can of Spam.

The full range stretches to Spam Lite, Spam Oven Roasted Turkey, Spam Smoke Flavored, 
and Spam
Less Sodium.


War on spam

2003-06-18 Thread Kenneth Campbell
On the one hand, I hate having to wade through 300+ email crap every
day. (I have old, Web published, email addresses from media work. Those
addresses have been harvested and used by spammers -- as I would imagine
many in academia also have a problem with.) It would be nice to only get
email from sources/people I would choose. (I actually remember those
days... back in 1990. Email was almost entirely signal, no noise.)

On the other hand, I don't want to regulate contact through some
Microsoft-driven piece of poor legislation (from political allies like
Hatch). For instance, in Quebec, there is actually talk of licensing
Jehovah Witnesses to stop them from knocking on doors. I can see that as
being, as Sir Humphrey Appleby would put it, the thin end of the
wedge. Who would _really_ be banned from canvassing?

On the other (third) hand, spammers are, in general, that meshugeneh
petty bourgeois crew I mentioned before. Nothing is going to stop them,
short of death. (Have any of you talked to these guys?)

Ken.

--
Happiness is an imaginary condition, formerly attributed
by the living to the dead, now usually attributed by
adults to children, and by children to adults.
  -- Thomas Szasz


--- cut here ---

Microsoft Sues 15 Groups in Broad Attack on Spam

By SAUL HANSELL
New York Times
June 18, 2003


Microsoft, the world's largest provider of e-mail accounts, filed
lawsuits yesterday against 15 groups of individuals and companies that
it says collectively sent its clients more than two billion unwanted
e-mail messages.

Unwanted e-mail, commonly called spam, has been a fast-growing problem
for many e-mail users. The Hotmail service from Microsoft, with 140
million users, has been a fat target for spammers.

The company estimates that more than 80 percent of the more than 2.5
billion e-mail messages sent each day to Hotmail users are spam. It now
blocks most of those spam messages.

All of the large Internet service providers, including America Online,
Earthlink and Yahoo, have started filing lawsuits against e-mailers that
they say are sending spam.

Microsoft's suits represent the largest number filed at one time, and
reflect Microsoft's willingness to devote some of its considerable
resources to fighting spam. It promised more such actions to come.

We at Microsoft are ramping up our efforts to combat spam, said Brad
Smith, Microsoft's general counsel, at a news conference yesterday.

But many spam experts say that these suits do little to actually prevent
spam.

At the end of the day, this is a drop in the bucket, said Ray
Everett-Church, the chief privacy officer of the ePrivacyGroup, a
consulting company. He said that the several dozen suits against
spammers so far have had no noticeable effect in deterring other
spammers.

Right now the big service providers see spam as a point of
differentiation, Mr. Everett-Church said. And these suits are much
more of a marketing campaign than an anti-spam campaign.

Mr. Smith of Microsoft, however, argued that the lawsuits were an
important part of a multipronged approach to fighting spam. In addition
to lawsuits, Microsoft has introduced software to filter out spam for
its MSN Internet access service and will include similar software in the
next release of its Outlook e-mail program.

Twelve of the suits filed yesterday were in state court in Washington.
They brought claims under both the Federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act
and a Washington State anti-spam law. One suit was filed in California
state court, and two were filed in Britain. The defendants include many
different business involved in e-mail marketing.

Email Gold Inc. and NetGold, both of Dayton, Ohio, are accused of using
spam to sell tools for other marketers to get into the spam business.

VMS Inc. and Proform4life Inc., both of Port Richey, Fla., are accused
of trying to sell human growth hormone.

RHC Direct of Murray, Utah, is accused of selling videotapes to enhance
job hunting skills using misleading subject headers.

VMS and Email Gold could not be reached for comment.

Robert Caldwell, the president of RHC, denied that his firm was sending
spam. All of the recipients of the messages that it sends have requested
marketing material, he said. Moreover, all of the messages identify the
sender's address and phone number.

They could have picked up the phone to call us rather than filing a
lawsuit, Mr. Caldwell said, noting that he has not had any discussions
about the offending e-mail with Microsoft. All this will do is
undermine the ability of legitimate marketers to stand up and say this
is what we are doing.

In some cases, Microsoft was not able to identify the sender of the
spam. It filed several suits against unnamed John Doe defendants. That
tactic allows it to use subpoenas and other techniques to try to
identify the senders.

Over the last nine months, Microsoft has diverted some of its
investigators who normally track down software counterfeiters to
tracking down spammers

re: re: Advice please re Spam. My Thanks.

2002-09-30 Thread Hari Kumar

I would like to thank both Ravi  pbs for their time in reply.
i) I may get back to you Ravi with more techno-specifics.
ii) pbs: I understand when you say that the technical good advices,
never seem to be 'possible' for the techno-faint-hearted!
I count myself as in that category.
iii) re the Palestinian thing:
Indeed it is VERY worrying. They (whoever they are) have taken the names
of several list-owners - including International Struggle ML (myself) 
a bunch of others - all ML-ist (including one - horror of horrors -
termed 'Stalinist')  used their list-owners as the perpetrators of some
very vicious and prolific anti-Palestinian propaganda.
iv) They even used the name of a (I think) a well known feminist, to
disseminate a tract under her name, which was quite
anti-Palestinian-women. I gather that that text did in fact originate in
a real piece, that was originally signed by Andrea Dworkin.
These tactics used are pretty clever -  for the technologically
challenged somewhat difficult to deal with.
v) Of course this raises the (now-old) red-herring of the extent to
which e-mail/interent organising can substitute for real-world
organising. Of course it cannot. Nor do the proponents of using it for
progressive causes have any such illusions about it.
Nonetheless, - for me at any rate, this little episode shows one
limitation of virtual class war versus real world organising for class
war.
Cheers -  once more my thanks to Ravi  to pbs - I will probably be in
touch shortly.
Hari




Parochialism and spam

2001-04-27 Thread Keaney Michael

Rob

Many thanks for your detailed news round-up. In asking several questions I
didn't expect the lowdown on each and every one, though pleased to have got
it.

You mentioned:
 
East Timor is an ex-story.

This is a little puzzling, and significantly more worrying, given the role
being played by Gareth Evans in his International Crisis Group hat (the
skinny on this outfit would be useful). His negotiation of the infamous
Timor Gap Treaty hardly qualifies him to be an impartial administrator or
whatever of the territory whose assets he now presides over. A while back in
either the Guardian or FT there was a very good article that managed to slip
out describing the alarm felt in Australian government circles that the East
Timorese would want more than the measly amount assigned to them in the
original treaty (ungrateful b*!ards).

You continued: 

Since John Howard pronounced that Oz saw itself as Uncle Sam's deputy in the
region, the Indonesian population and Malaysia's leadership (for two) have
correctly discerned that our foreign policy is still of the 'white man's
burden' variety.  We've recently upped the ante by announcing a major
sustained military budget increase (the Defense people used to argue they
needed money because there was nothing more dangerous than a united
Indonesia;
now they're getting money because there's nothing more dangerous than a
fragmenting Indonesia), and a new regional arms race is likely to raise
temperature and take food out of mouths.  Australia is, in short, more on
the
nose in the region than it has been for a decade.

=

So how does this fit in with Dubya's trans-Pacific sabre-rattling? Does
Howard really want to get involved in that?

=

Any views on the recent Vietnamese CP Congress? 

Well, nothing in the media here (of course), but it seems delegates are
pretty
free to speak.  Lots of pronouncements about the Party having to review its
structure (endemic corruption, arrogance of the security branches,
non-representative and advanced age of cadres and executives, bureaucracy
trumping compassion etc); some general comments about restructuring an
education system to meet the challenges and derive the benefits of this
'information-age' thingy everyone else has been on about (if not edifying
about) for fifteen years; and a lot of stuff about dangerously lapsing Party
and public morality.  All apparently very general, but perhaps indicative of
some profound self critique and some new broom measures.  Still confidently
statist-commie stuff on the whole, though.  Does that fit your take,
Michael?

=

Quite a lot in the FT about it, including a typically sneering aside by its
piss-poor Observer diarist. Mostly positive about the change, although also
even managing to acknowledge the unimpeachability of the departing Le Kha
Phieu. He is even quoted in one article stating the need for greater support
for private enterprise, and faster economic development to speed growth. The
statist-commie stuff didn't feature, other than the gratuitous digs and
references to departing dinosaurs, etc.

Nothing at all in the Guardian about it, it seems. Hopefully some outlet
like Monthly Review will pick something up.

Keep on keeping on,

Michael K.




Re: Parochialism and spam

2001-04-27 Thread Rob Schaap

Hi again Michael,

 So how does this fit in with Dubya's trans-Pacific sabre-rattling?
 Does Howard really want to get involved in that?

Yep, and he is involved.  He's playing his self-appointed role as unpaid
deputy to the embarrassing hilt, enjoying a very public slanging match with
Beijing as I write.  

http://www.abc.net.au/am/s283994.htm

This is a transcript of AM broadcast at 0800 AEST on local radio.


Australia drawn into US/China rift 

AM - Friday, April  27, 2001  8:00 

LINDA MOTTRAM: Good morning. This is AM. I’m Linda Mottram.

Australia has been drawn into the escalating tension
between China and the United States. The Chinese Embassy has told AM that
comments the Prime Minister John Howard made on this program yesterday were
inappropriate, and confused right and wrong.

China correspondent Tom O’Byrne reports:

TOM O’BYRNE: It’s becoming a familiar scene in an
increasingly testy relationship between China and the United States. This time
there’s anger and concern in Beijing about President George W. Bush talking of
defending Taiwan in the event of a Chinese attack.

A Foreign Ministry spokeswoman says China is deeply
concerned, not only over the President’s remarks, but the road the
Syno-American relationship is taking. She said Taiwan remains Chinese
territory and not anyone’s protectorate; a point that was well known to the
United States.

Already smarting over the Taiwan arms sales decision
earlier in the week, the Chinese Foreign Ministry summoned the US Ambassador
to Beijing for the second time in as many days to register its protest.

And in a warning to other countries, including Australia,
the Chinese government says it will take the same view about those hoping to
sell weapons technology to Taiwan as it does about the US sale.

Germany and the Netherlands have been tipped as a possible
source of conventional submarines for Taiwan as part of the US package.

Chinese state-run television overnight was giving
prominence to denials from both governments that any such sales were planned.

The Australian Prime Minister meanwhile thought he was
being cautious when commenting on yesterday’s AM program on the latest
US-China rift:

JOHN HOWARD: Well, I understand and I’m sure China and the
world understands the United States’ position in relation to Taiwan. It’s a
fairly long held position. And it’s not surprising that it should be re-stated
by the new president.

From our point of view, we urge calm and restraint on
everybody. We don’t want to see any aggression by China against Taiwan. We
don’t want to see any wider tension  escalate between the United States and
China. So from out point of view we would like calm and restraint on all sides.

REPORTER: You’re happy that President George Bush
understands the regional tensions and is fully across how sensitive...

JOHN HOWARD: I’m sure he is. I think he’s made a very
impressive start.

TOM O’BYRNE: But the Chinese Embassy in Canberra considers
the remarks inappropriate and confusing right with wrong.

REN XIAOPING: We think that the Taiwan question is the
internal affairs of China. Any foreign country - no foreign country should
make inappropriate remarks on this question.

At the moment Syno-American relations are at a very
sensitive and complicated period of time. And we think that Prime Minister
John Howard’s remarks are very inappropriate, which confuses right and wrong.
So the Chinese Embassy are not happy about this.

China and Australian are friendly countries. And we hope
that the Australian government will do more things that would be beneficial to
the development of the friendly relations between China and Australia.

LINDA MOTTRAM: A spokeswoman for China’s embassy in
Canberra, Ren Xiaoping.




Parochialism and spam

2001-04-26 Thread Keaney Michael

Rob Schaap wrote:

So I've given up saying things about Oz, as
it tends to make one feel like a spammer at worst and keeps one out of the
conversation at best.  There's probably nothing to be done about this, but
there it is.

=

Cease thy muteness at once, comrade. Be resolute and unflinching. Do not
kowtow to the imperialist running dogs.

I was, am, and will be interested in what you have to say about Oz. The
Gough Whitlam stuff you sent a while back is important, as is any material
or thoughts on the present resurgence of One Nation, the apparent emergence
of the Greens, and whatever remains of progressive politics within Labor.
What's going on in East Timor? Is the Keating attempt to forge closer SE
Asian ties (as opposed to Robert Conquest-type it'll be all white on the
night international relations) still a goer? Any views on the recent
Vietnamese CP Congress? What about the maverick new leader of the Liberal
Democrats in Japan?

What about it, Rob?

Michael K.




Re: Parochialism and spam

2001-04-26 Thread Jim Devine


Rob Schaap wrote:

So I've given up saying things about Oz, as
it tends to make one feel like a spammer at worst and keeps one out of the
conversation at best.  There's probably nothing to be done about this, but
there it is.

Michael Keaney writes:
Cease thy muteness at once, comrade. Be resolute and unflinching. Do not
kowtow to the imperialist running dogs.

I totally agree. I love your stuff about Oz (even if I have a hard time 
reading it sometimes; I flunked Australian as a second language). Just 
because people don't reply very much doesn't mean you should shut up. I, 
for one, don't reply because I'm totally ignorant of the subject matter. I 
seem to get away with talking about a lot of stuff I don't know anything 
about, but that's because I dealing with students most of the time. ;-)

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: Parochialism and spam

2001-04-26 Thread Rob Schaap

G'day Pen-pals,
 
I was, am, and will be interested in what you have to say about Oz.   The
Gough Whitlam stuff you sent a while back is important, as is any material or
thoughts on the present resurgence of One Nation, the apparent emergence
of the Greens, and whatever remains of progressive politics within Labor. 

One Nation is doing well just now, mainly because the major parties are
undergoing a real and thoroughly deserved legitimation crisis, and Australians
(who are legally obliged to vote) can but express their contempt by voting for
anyone who offers antiglobalisation sentiments.  And that's the problem One
Nation has - it's a reactionary unit based on the rural petit-bourgoisie (and,
after oil price rises and the introduction of a margin-narrowing,
paper-work-multiplying goods'n'services tax last July, increasing chunks of
the suburban petit-bourgoisie) and it's a nationalist-statist-small cappo
denial of 'globalism' as a whole.  It makes demands of the state that can no
longer be met; pushes an abstract 'personal-responsibility' egalitarian
liberalism that denies class/ethnic/cultural/gender inequities (eg 'blaming
the victim' stuff such that charges of racism, for instance, are easy to level
at 'em); pushes a 'those were the days' sentimentalism; and depends entirely
on the persona of the inarticulate, often hysterical but strangely likeable
Pauline Hanson.  

Anyway, One Nation is getting support from across the spectrum (the
disillusioned are everywhere, after all) and has a real shot at a producing a
couple of senators - which may be enough to carry the balance in the next
senate.  A worry, as the nationalism is xenophobic and effectively racist, the
liberalism is one of judgement rather than emancipation; the social ideals are
fifty years out of date, and Hanson just hasn't the mental ammo to resist
opportunistic radical rightist agendas or go beyond feeding discontent.  A
national vote of around six per cent, with local spikes in Queensland, seems
their electoral limit.  But they are having an effect on the political
culture, as the media find Hanson irresistable, and we have to have debates we
thought we'd put away years ago.  Capital is cross with 'em, because the media
coverage gets picked up in the region, and our current and prospective SE
Asian trading partners are having their suspicions regarding Australian
whitism confirmed.

The Greens are where the left goes these days, even though they still haven't
anything like a class-conscious electoral politics or social policy.  Again,
we're just talking a 'somewhere to go' option for the disillusioned uni
student or graduate.  The Greens have benefitted from the traditional 'third
force' (the Australian Democrats) being seen as too close to the conservative
government.  The latter have a glamorous new leader now, but I reckon the
Greens could get a senator or two in at the elections, too.  The Bush
turnaround, local salinity crises, and Queensland land clearance orgies have
combined to make an expressly green politics pretty trendy, so I think The
Greens'll maintain their presence for the foreseeable future.  What comes of
it all really depends on who the successful candidates are, as Green
candidates are a diverse lot.  A five per cent electoral presence seems a
realistic expectation, and that could be enough to get one or two across the line.

What's going on in East Timor? 

Local discontent as to the tight reins the UN is keeping on local aspirations.
 The liberation looks more like a new domination every day, and the top-down
development programme is predictably stalling.  The media is saying nothing. 
East Timor is an ex-story.

Is the Keating attempt to forge closer SE Asian ties (as opposed to   Robert
Conquest-type it'll be all white on the night internationalrelations)
still a goer? 

Since John Howard pronounced that Oz saw itself as Uncle Sam's deputy in the
region, the Indonesian population and Malaysia's leadership (for two) have
correctly discerned that our foreign policy is still of the 'white man's
burden' variety.  We've recently upped the ante by announcing a major
sustained military budget increase (the Defense people used to argue they
needed money because there was nothing more dangerous than a united Indonesia;
now they're getting money because there's nothing more dangerous than a
fragmenting Indonesia), and a new regional arms race is likely to raise
temperature and take food out of mouths.  Australia is, in short, more on the
nose in the region than it has been for a decade.

Any views on the recent Vietnamese CP Congress? 

Well, nothing in the media here (of course), but it seems delegates are pretty
free to speak.  Lots of pronouncements about the Party having to review its
structure (endemic corruption, arrogance of the security branches,
non-representative and advanced age of cadres and executives, bureaucracy
trumping compassion etc); some general comments about restructuring an
education system 

Spam

2000-03-30 Thread Stephen E Philion

Spam., steve


On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is this debate about?
 
 Michael, the debate is as follows...
 
 Still, religion has inspired great generosity and positive heroism in
 others.
 
 thanks god for his generosity!
 
  then go and register to a biology course in Kansas!
 
  Mine
 
 evolution was dropped from the cirriculum of public schools by the
 State Board of Education in Kansas. i think it was last august or so...
 
 
 Mine
 
 
 --
 
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 Economics Department
 California State University
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Chico, CA 95929
 530-898-5321
 fax 530-898-5901
 
 




[PEN-L:11557] EPI Budget Spam

1999-09-23 Thread Max Sawicky

The following, including tables, can be downloaded from
our web site at epinet.org

mbs


  September 22, 1999 Issue Brief #134

  Social Investment and the Budget Debate

  by Jeff Faux and Max Sawicky

  Budget politics in America have become a two-legged stool. While
  congressional Republicans and administration Democrats argue
  over the size of tax cuts and debt reduction, the third leg of budget
  policy – social investment – remains too short, imperiling future
  economic and social stability. Indeed, the recent 10-year budget
  plans advanced by the leadership of both parties would require
  substantial cuts in public investment and social services in order to
  finance tax cuts. But however this year’s budget is patched together,
  both sides’ proposals signal an intention to continue with the
  “unbalanced” budget priorities of the past 20 years.

  Surplus illusions
  The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has projected total budget
  surpluses of $2,896 billion over the next decade, of which $1,899
  billion will come from the expected surplus in the “off-budget” Social
  Security program, and $997 billion will come from “on-budget”
  revenues and programs (Table 1). Both sides have proposed to
  lock up the projected Social Security surplus by using it to pay down
  the national debt, thus precluding a debate on using that surplus for
  public investment or other purposes.

  It is widely assumed that the non-Social Security surplus is available
  for tax cuts, new spending, or even further deficit reduction. But
  where would that $997 billion surplus really come from? The source
  of more than 90% of that surplus actually comes from plans to
  reduce the current level of federal government services, ranging
  from meat and poultry inspection to educating children in Head
  Start.

  Part of the confusion lies in the misleading use by both Congress
  and the Clinton Administration of spending numbers automatically
  “capped” by the provisions of the 1997 budget agreement. These
  numbers, which appear as “baselines” in the budget documents, do
  not represent a stable level of funding but rather reductions in real
  spending below what is necessary to maintain the current level of
  public services.

  The “current services” budget shown in Table 2 displays a more
  realistic estimate of spending needed to keep programs operating
  at their 1999 levels. It is a conservative estimate in that it reflects
  only expected price changes and not population growth or the
  increased public investments in human and physical capital needed
  to support future growth in a more competitive global economy.

  As Table 2 shows, within the discretionary spending category,
  nondefense spending absorbs virtually all of the proposed
  reductions – the Clinton 10-year budget proposes a slight increase
  in military spending over current levels, while the Republican’s
  budget proposes a slightly lower level. In either case, it is
  nondefense spending that will be cut.

  Over the 10-year period in question, the Republican budget would
  reduce nondefense discretionary spending by 20.1% overall, with
  the cuts reaching almost 28.6% by fiscal year 2009. The Clinton
  budget also cuts the nondefense discretionary budget, by almost
  12.8% in 2009 and over 6.4% overall for the decade. To complicate
  matters, the Clinton budget proposal assumes that some domestic
  spending can be maintained with a series of “offsets” (e.g.,
  superfund tax increase, takeback of tobacco tax revenues from
  states, increased user fees), whose passage is at best
  problematic. If those offsets are denied by Congress, and the
  spending therefore correspondingly reduced, the cuts in current
  services in Clinton’s budget could be as much as 50% higher than
  the overall 6.4% projected.

  Table 2 shows that the difference between the “capped” and the
  current services budget is $595 billion over 10 years. But, as the
  Center on Budget and Policy Priorities has pointed out, the shortfall
  is actually much greater for two reasons. First, there will be higher
  interest costs associated with the higher spending needed to close
  the gap. Second, the shortfall is greater as a result of the pattern in
  the 1990s of not budgeting for necessary programs (e.g., the
  Census), which then get funded as emergencies. These and other
  items could add roughly another $290 billion to the gap between the
  CBO projections and the money needed to maintain current
  services, eating up almost 90% of the projected non-Social Security
  surplus. [1]

  Shrinking social investments
  Since the exact composition of discretionary spending cuts is
  decided in the annual appropriations process, it is not yet certain
  where the cuts will be made. Clinton’s Office of Management and
  Budget (OMB), however, has provided some clues. In August 1999,
  the OMB estimated that the Republican budget, which calls for a tax
  cut of $792 billion over 10 

[PEN-L:6777] spam +

1996-10-19 Thread Gerald Levy

Doug Henwood wrote:

 At 10:14 AM 10/19/96, SHAWGI TELL wrote:
 ..yet another diatribe.
 Shawgi Tell, if you made some effort to converse with the people on the
 lists you post these screeds to I might feel a little different about them.
 But as it is, it just reads like spams. One tedious pronunciamento after
 another. Please stop it.

I agree *completely* -- and I will add here that having to constantly
delete Shawgi's spam is both time-consuming and annoying.

So ... Doug: how do you define and measure surplus value?

Your pest,

Jerry