Re: Problem and patch for Devel::Cover 0.61

[Paul Johnson]

On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 05:27:53PM -0700, Eric Wilhelm wrote:

> # from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> # on Sunday 19 August 2007 04:56 pm:
> 
> >Should I also send this patch to RT for D::C ?
> 
> Yes, please attach it to the open bug.
> 
>   http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=16379

Thanks very much for this.  I will try to work out what's going on and add the
patch into the upcoming release.

[ I was going to mention a release during YAPC::Eu, but I know that doing so
  would doom that plan, so I won't. ]

-- 
Paul Johnson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pjcj.net

add points for registered namespaces

[Cyberiade . it Anonymous Remailer]

there's a lot of questionable modules being uploaded to CPAN
which create top-level namespaces, very often not even being
self-explanatory. it would be nice to add points for 
modules which have registered namespaces. this should encourage
more appropriate module naming.

Re: add points for registered namespaces

[Christopher H. Laco]

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
> there's a lot of questionable modules being uploaded to CPAN
> which create top-level namespaces, very often not even being
> self-explanatory. it would be nice to add points for 
> modules which have registered namespaces. this should encourage
> more appropriate module naming.
> 
> 

-1.

Do we even register namespaces any more? I tried 3 years ago with Handel
and never heard anything. For that matter, it took me forever just to
get a PAUSE id. Now maybe it was an RT/Email/Pause form issue...but
still, it was not fast. I've been under the impression ever since that
they just don't register namespaces any more.

If I'm wrong, then I'd like to register a few then, like Handel.



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Re: add points for registered namespaces

[A. Pagaltzis]

* Christopher H. Laco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-08-20 14:50]:
> Do we even register namespaces any more?

I registered Sub::ArgShortcut just a few months ago. When I
release a 1.0 of XML::Atom::SimpleFeed I’ll register that too.

> If I'm wrong, then I'd like to register a few then, like Handel.

Go ahead.

Regards,
-- 
Aristotle Pagaltzis // 

Re: add points for registered namespaces

[Michael G Schwern]

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
> there's a lot of questionable modules being uploaded to CPAN
> which create top-level namespaces, very often not even being
> self-explanatory. it would be nice to add points for 
> modules which have registered namespaces. this should encourage
> more appropriate module naming.

-1

As to the intent of the proposed kwalitee rating:  the "don't open a top level
namespace" argument made sense when walking the module directory tree was the
only way to navigate CPAN, but we have several ways to search it now and a
fledging tagging system coming online.  If a new top level best describes your
module, go for it.

WRT requiring module registration:  the act of registration adds you to the
registered modules list which has been rendered moot in lieu of much more
powerful things such as search.  The existing categories are wildly out of
touch.  I just see it as busy work and haven't bothered in years.  The DSLIP
information is now better done with META.yml resources fields.  The process
also involves humans, so...

WRT the intent of forcing the user to get approval for their module:  while
it's nice to ask for opinions for your module, it sucks to hold up sharing
your new module with the world while waiting for humans to respond.  And
[EMAIL PROTECTED] can be really, really slow.

Finally, WRT whether or not registration is correlated with quality:  If you
look at what's registered on the module list and what we consider to be good
quality code I wonder if you'll find a correlation.


-- 
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Re: add points for registered namespaces

[brian d foy]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Cyberiade . it Anonymous Remailer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> there's a lot of questionable modules being uploaded to CPAN
> which create top-level namespaces, very often not even being
> self-explanatory. it would be nice to add points for 
> modules which have registered namespaces. this should encourage
> more appropriate module naming.

Please don't do that. It has nothing to do with quality in any sense,
and it would create a lot more work for us PAUSE admins. There are
three of us who handle the registrations now although it's mostly me. I
don't want to have to see tens of messages every day which I have to
respond to and suggest more meaningful names.

The effect of this kwalitee metric would be that fewer modules are
registered as I or Adam just stop paying attention because it's too
much work now.

Re: add points for registered namespaces

[brian d foy]

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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christopher H. Laco
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do we even register namespaces any more? I tried 3 years ago with Handel
> and never heard anything. 

We still register namespaces.

I don't see that you ever submitted Handel for registration, although
you did submit Business::Commerce. If you register Handel now, I'll
just approve it. I'm actually surprised it didn't already happen
because we had already talked about that name and I remember liking it.
:)

Re: add points for registered namespaces

[brian d foy]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael G Schwern
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> WRT the intent of forcing the user to get approval for their module:  while
> it's nice to ask for opinions for your module, it sucks to hold up sharing
> your new module with the world while waiting for humans to respond.  And
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] can be really, really slow.

It can be slow, but generally I clear out the queue daily.

The CPAN faq says that you don't have to wait to upload your module
though. You can always change the name later.